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Tha Pitbull

10-31-2006, 01:43 PM

Date: 12/30/2006 10:00 PM ET
Event Type: PPV Live
Location: MGM Grand Garden Arena, Nevada

Chuck Liddell Vs. Tito Ortiz

Name: Chuck Liddell
Height: 6.2
Weight: 204
Record: 19-3-0
"The Iceman"

Name: Tito Ortiz
Height: 6.2
Weight: 204
Record: 15-4-0
"Huntington Beach Bad Boy"

Andrei Arlovski Vs. Marcio Cruz

Name: Andrei Arlovski
Height: 6.4
Weight: 240
Record: 11-5-0
"Pit Bull"

Name: Marcio Cruz
Height: 6.4
Weight: 246
Record: 2-1-0
"Pe De Pano"

Keith Jardine Vs. Forrest Griffin

Name: Keith Jardine
Height: 6.2
Weight: 205
Record: 11-3-1

Name: Forrest Griffin
Height: 6.3
Weight: 205
Record: 13-3-0

20yearoldvirgin

10-31-2006, 01:45 PM

Not too impressive.

Tam Tam

10-31-2006, 04:03 PM

Looks good so far. You need to get laid Gatti, you're starting to become pessimistic.

Tha Pitbull

10-31-2006, 04:04 PM

Looks good so far. You need to get laid Gatti, you're starting to become pessimistic.
I thought the same thing:jester:

FourHooks

10-31-2006, 04:09 PM

Jardine and Griffen should be a war....Arlovski will probably bang Cruz out early.

Chuck will KO Tito again

20yearoldvirgin

10-31-2006, 04:50 PM

:jester:

Honestly, it's not something that I would pay to watch.

FourHooks

10-31-2006, 06:05 PM

:jester:

Honestly, it's not something that I would pay to watch.so, dont pay for it:nixweiss:

steve_dave (old account)

10-31-2006, 06:20 PM

:jester:

Honestly, it's not something that I would pay to watch.

Have you ever bought a PPV before?

20yearoldvirgin

10-31-2006, 06:33 PM

so, dont pay for it:nixweiss:
So, I won't. Excuse me for expressing my oppinion.

Steve_dave, of course I have bought a PPV before, what kind of a question is that? And don't even pretend like you are getting this shit card.

HIFU

steve_dave (old account)

10-31-2006, 06:43 PM

So, I won't. Excuse me for expressing my oppinion.

Steve_dave, of course I have bought a PPV before, what kind of a question is that? And don't even pretend like you are getting this shit card.

HIFU
:jester: I would never spend money on UFC.

20yearoldvirgin

10-31-2006, 06:44 PM

I would, but not on this card, unless they add some really good fights on it.

Tam Tam

10-31-2006, 06:50 PM

:nono:

This is only a shit card if you're an MMA noob. Its nice. The right people win and it should be exciting. The wrong people win and its exciting for different reasons.

steve_dave (old account)

10-31-2006, 06:58 PM

:nono:

This is only a shit card if you're an MMA noob. Its nice. The right people win and it should be exciting. The wrong people win and its exciting for different reasons.

I'm looking forward to Tito/Lidell.. Tito have a chance?

Tam Tam

10-31-2006, 07:11 PM

I'm looking forward to Tito/Lidell.. Tito have a chance?
I think everyone has a chance with Liddell, because most of the time he's a POS fighter who makes more mistakes than Robert Swift would playing point.

However, those times when he's not shit is when one of those bombs land...and thats still a few times during a fight. If you saw their last fight, one would have to imagine Tito dies again.

TFK

10-31-2006, 10:23 PM

Three good matches on 1 PPV. When's the last time boxing did that?

TFK

steve_dave (old account)

10-31-2006, 11:00 PM

Three good matches on 1 PPV. When's the last time boxing did that?

TFK

September.

Jesus of montreal

10-31-2006, 11:43 PM

garbage card, same tactic as a arum promotion. Good main event, decent undercard. Not worth 40$ at all

Tam Tam

10-31-2006, 11:49 PM

September.
:jester: :jester: Oh yeah?

TFK

11-01-2006, 12:01 AM

September.

Of what year?

TFK

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-01-2006, 03:49 AM

Three good matches on 1 PPV. When's the last time boxing did that?

TFK
September 2006. When was the last time MMA had a good fight not on PPV :nixweiss:

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-01-2006, 03:50 AM

Calling them fights good is overating them because they will be boring Ruiz/Hatton holdfests.

FourHooks

11-01-2006, 03:51 AM

September 2006. When was the last time MMA had a good fight not on PPV :nixweiss:Karo vs Sanchez was amazing

Tam Tam

11-01-2006, 05:53 AM

Calling them fights good is overating them because they will be boring Ruiz/Hatton holdfests.
You don't know shit about MMA and profess to hate it entirely....yet you post on nearly every MMA thread around and you were in the forum reading this one.

Do you feel the need to tell everybody, every single little thing that goes through your mind? If MMA is so unimportant to you, what does that say about your inability to steer clear of talking about it?

Just shut the fuck up.

20yearoldvirgin

11-01-2006, 10:30 AM

garbage card, same tactic as a arum promotion. Good main event, decent undercard. Not worth 40$ at all
:2:

this post almost brought a tear to my eyes.

But yes, Karo/Sanchez was a great fight.

TFK

11-01-2006, 11:27 AM

Let's see, we have a fight between two of the most widely known MMA fighters in the country in Ortiz and Liddell, we have a fight featuring one of the UFC's most popular fighters in Griffin, who stylewise is the Arturo Gatti of UFC against Jardine, who UFC fans got to know from TUF, and a fight featuring the former Heavyweight Champ.

Tell me one boxing PPV that has come close to a lineup like that?

And like it or not, I'd guess many many more people know who Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell are then could name any of the Heavyweight Champions are.

Boxing is losing fans at an alarming rate. It's a bleak outlook for the sport I once loved.

TFK

VictimSix

11-01-2006, 03:44 PM

I think everyone has a chance with Liddell, because most of the time he's a POS fighter who makes more mistakes than Robert Swift would playing point.

However, those times when he's not shit is when one of those bombs land...and thats still a few times during a fight. If you saw their last fight, one would have to imagine Tito dies again.
Chuck makes close to no mistakes in his fights thats why he wins. I don't like him at all but a pos fighter?

Azazel

11-01-2006, 03:51 PM

Not too impressive.
indeed.

20yearoldvirgin

11-01-2006, 05:05 PM

indeed.
:jester: :2: :jester:

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-01-2006, 06:09 PM

Karo vs Sanchez was amazingCastillo-Corrales 1 was amazing.

Now give a truthful answer.

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-01-2006, 06:10 PM

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-01-2006, 06:11 PM

You don't know shit about MMA and profess to hate it entirely....yet you post on nearly every MMA thread around and you were in the forum reading this one.

Do you feel the need to tell everybody, every single little thing that goes through your mind? If MMA is so unimportant to you, what does that say about your inability to steer clear of talking about it?

Just shut the fuck up.
Thats how i roll.

TFK

11-01-2006, 06:22 PM

"Stylewise is like Gatti" :jester:

I really doubt that is true.

So in other words, you've never seen Forrest Griffin Fight.

TFK

FourHooks

11-01-2006, 08:08 PM

Castillo-Corrales 1 was amazing.

Now give a truthful answer.Castillo vs Corrales was by far the best and most exciting display I've ever seen in combat sports. Unlike you, I am a fan of both, and dont feel the need to bash either boxing or MMA. Truthful enough?

steve_dave (old account)

11-01-2006, 08:38 PM

:jester: :jester: Oh yeah?

Yeah.

MAB/Juarez 2
Vasquez/Soto
Guzman/Barrios

And the Morales/Pacquiao III card is shaping into a good one too.

steve_dave (old account)

11-01-2006, 08:38 PM

Of what year?

TFK

2006.

Tam Tam

11-01-2006, 09:00 PM

Yeah.

MAB/Juarez 2
Vasquez/Soto
Guzman/Barrios

And the Morales/Pacquiao III card is shaping into a good one too.
MAB v Juarez II? Gimmie a break, Pandy. You're reaching there.

You could just say every fucken PPV that ever was, was great if you're going to use that fight as an example. That was disgusting.

TFK

11-01-2006, 09:11 PM

Yeah.

MAB/Juarez 2
Vasquez/Soto
Guzman/Barrios

Do you think anyone besides the most hardcore of boxing fans knows any of those fighters besides Barrera, much less gives a damn about them enough to make it worth $45+

TFK

steve_dave (old account)

11-01-2006, 09:11 PM

MAB v Juarez II? Gimmie a break, Pandy. You're reaching there.

You could just say every fucken PPV that ever was, was great if you're going to use that fight as an example. That was disgusting.

It was an awful fight in retrospect... but the same could happen to any fight card in any sport. It was an awesome card on paper going in.

Explosivo

11-01-2006, 10:11 PM

Rampage put Chuck on his back and ass,..and Ortiz can do it too if he fights the right fight.

The last time, I think Tito tried to honor his word by beating Chuck on his feet.

Dumb move. And I know that Chuck has phenominal takedown defense,..but I gotta believe that if Tito can take down all the fighters he has taken down..he can take Chuck down too.

The only question is, can he do it before Chuck lands his patented right hand bomb before Ortiz slams him.

valdosta

11-02-2006, 12:46 AM

Rampage put Chuck on his back and ass,..and Ortiz can do it too if he fights the right fight.

The last time, I think Tito tried to honor his word by beating Chuck on his feet.

.

You must have watched a different fight than I did. Tito tried to shoot in a couple of times and didn't even ccome close. :nixweiss:

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-02-2006, 03:54 AM

It was an awful fight in retrospect... but the same could happen to any fight card in any sport. It was an awesome card on paper going in.LMAO at UFC trashing the card. UFC fights always turn out to be garbage anyway no matter how good they look going in.

20yearoldvirgin

11-02-2006, 08:16 AM

Thats how i roll.
:jester: :jester: :jester:

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-02-2006, 08:32 AM

So in other words, you've never seen Forrest Griffin Fight.

TFK
I have hes the cat on the Ultimate Fighter. Gatti is 10,000,000x more exciting then Griffen ever is/was/will be.

TFK

11-02-2006, 11:14 AM

LMAO at UFC trashing the card. UFC fights always turn out to be garbage anyway no matter how good they look going in.

If UFC is garbage, then why is UFC and MMA growing at a ridiculous pace, outdrawing most boxing and wrestling PPV's and getting bigger every day?

It's not just because of the action, it's because they're doing things boxing doesn't do anymore. Being fan friendly, giving solid undercards, putting good fights on free TV, etc.

TFK

VictimSix

11-02-2006, 04:49 PM

If UFC is garbage, then why is UFC and MMA growing at a ridiculous pace, outdrawing most boxing and wrestling PPV's and getting bigger every day?

It's not just because of the action, it's because they're doing things boxing doesn't do anymore. Being fan friendly, giving solid undercards, putting good fights on free TV, etc.

TFK
Just because the UFC is the front runner in the states dosn't mean it's good (not saying it's garbage though). They are very very inconsistent as far as shows go. A decent ppv here a horrible ppv there. They have put on some really good fights on tv though. There is no reason for their free fight nights to be better then their $40 ppv. Looking forward to 65 though.

VictimSix

11-02-2006, 04:51 PM

I have hes the cat on the Ultimate Fighter. Gatti is 10,000,000x more exciting then Griffen ever is/was/will be.
Oh, so you havn't seen him fight.

FourHooks

11-02-2006, 06:08 PM

Just because the UFC is the front runner in the states dosn't mean it's good (not saying it's garbage though). They are very very inconsistent as far as shows go. A decent ppv here a horrible ppv there. They have put on some really good fights on tv though. There is no reason for their free fight nights to be better then their $40 ppv. Looking forward to 65 though.not sure I agree with that logic....stars will be on PPV and sometimes those stars are harder to match up than up and coming guys who are hungry, such as diego and Karo or herman and mcdonald

FourHooks

11-02-2006, 06:10 PM

Oh, so you havn't seen him fight.its not that....its just he is a ufc hater, yet he watches them all and has tito ortiz's name in his email address:rolleyes:

simple as this, if you're not a football fan, but you love baseball, you'd likely say greg maddox is more exciting than barry sanders. you'd be an idiot, but chances are there are people who'd argue it, and I think we have a similar case here......RJJ has taken to hating on MMA for some time now....its quite amusing actually how much shit he talks about it instead of just ignoring it....You dont see me going around to billards websites bashing billiards on tv:nixweiss:

steve_dave (old account)

11-02-2006, 07:57 PM

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-03-2006, 04:20 PM

Oh, so you havn't seen him fight.So he wasn't on the Ultimate fighter reality show?

royyjonesjrp4pno1

11-03-2006, 04:25 PM

its not that....its just he is a ufc hater, yet he watches them all and has tito ortiz's name in his email address:rolleyes:

simple as this, if you're not a football fan, but you love baseball, you'd likely say greg maddox is more exciting than barry sanders. you'd be an idiot, but chances are there are people who'd argue it, and I think we have a similar case here......RJJ has taken to hating on MMA for some time now....its quite amusing actually how much shit he talks about it instead of just ignoring it....You dont see me going around to billards websites bashing billiards on tv:nixweiss:I am just a sucker for combat. The thing is i like watching fights. I watch the UFC because i want to see good fights and i hope to see them. However i watch it and usually it is boring. I can't remember the last good UFC fight i actually saw. Maybee i just changed the channel before a good one took place because the one i watched sucked so bad, i don't know.

I undertsand that wrestling and submission takes a whole lot of skill, but they are just boring to watch.

FourHooks

11-03-2006, 06:47 PM

I am just a sucker for combat. The thing is i like watching fights. I watch the UFC because i want to see good fights and i hope to see them. However i watch it and usually it is boring. I can't remember the last good UFC fight i actually saw. Maybee i just changed the channel before a good one took place because the one i watched sucked so bad, i don't know.

I undertsand that wrestling and submission takes a whole lot of skill, but they are just boring to watch.thats fine....I can respect you thinking that grappling is a bore to watch....many people happen to enjoy it very much....I'm one of them

VictimSix

11-03-2006, 06:54 PM

not sure I agree with that logic....stars will be on PPV and sometimes those stars are harder to match up than up and coming guys who are hungry, such as diego and Karo or herman and mcdonald
You think it's ok for free shows to be better then $40 ppv. A good fight is a good fight I'm not knocking the free shows but Diego puts on a good show everytime, even though I hate the guy his fights are fun to watch. Diego/Karo and Diego/Diablo should have been ppv fights. They know he's exciting and those two fights would have made any of the last 4 ufc much better shows. Herman on the other hand can stay on the fight nights.

FourHooks

11-03-2006, 07:06 PM

You think it's ok for free shows to be better then $40 ppv. A good fight is a good fight I'm not knocking the free shows but Diego puts on a good show everytime, even though I hate the guy his fights are fun to watch. Diego/Karo and Diego/Diablo should have been ppv fights. They know he's exciting and those two fights would have made any of the last 4 ufc much better shows. Herman on the other hand can stay on the fight nights.honestly, I dont give a shit how the UFC markets or puts on their shows....Champs fight on PPV, up and comers headline the free shows....seems to be the way they're doing things

and herman and grove put on one of the best fights i've seen in a while

20yearoldvirgin

11-06-2006, 10:43 AM

honestly, I dont give a shit how the UFC markets or puts on their shows....Champs fight on PPV, up and comers headline the free shows....seems to be the way they're doing things

and herman and grove put on one of the best fights i've seen in a while
Diego got a gift against Parisyan.

Tha Pitbull

11-06-2006, 11:17 AM

Diego got a gift against Parisyan.
Sure did

FourHooks

11-06-2006, 01:06 PM

Diego got a gift against Parisyan.no fucking way.....It was a close fight. I thought Diego won clearly. A "GIFT" ? get the fuck outta here....maybe he lost a close fight, but no gifts were given

20yearoldvirgin

11-06-2006, 03:37 PM

no fucking way.....It was a close fight. I thought Diego won clearly. A "GIFT" ? get the fuck outta here....maybe he lost a close fight, but no gifts were given
30-26 was definitely a gift for him.

I thought Karo won the first two rounds. The best I can see it for Diego is a draw, if you give him a two point round in the third.

I just saw this fight again yesterday, so I was a little excited, it wasn't a gift, but I thought Karo was the pretty clear winner.

FourHooks

11-06-2006, 05:30 PM

30-26 was definitely a gift for him.

I thought Karo won the first two rounds. The best I can see it for Diego is a draw, if you give him a two point round in the third.

I just saw this fight again yesterday, so I was a little excited, it wasn't a gift, but I thought Karo was the pretty clear winner.fair enough....and there is MMAs biggest draw back.....fights like that where there is no CLEAR winner or loser should be declared a draw

Tam Tam

11-06-2006, 05:52 PM

But Karo clearly won. Giving the fight to the other guy wasn't just wrong; it was corrupt.

FourHooks

11-06-2006, 07:27 PM

But Karo clearly won. Giving the fight to the other guy wasn't just wrong; it was corrupt.hmm...I thougt Diego fought the better fight, but neither guy did enough to really "win" the fight

Tam Tam

11-06-2006, 07:30 PM

hmm...I thougt Diego fought the better fight, but neither guy did enough to really "win" the fight
:nono:

No, Hooks. Don't you do it.

FourHooks

11-06-2006, 07:54 PM

:nono:

No, Hooks. Don't you do it.i done did it! (whatever the fuck it is)

Diego won the fight, I guess:nixweiss:

Tam Tam

11-06-2006, 07:58 PM

Don't.

TraZ

11-06-2006, 08:46 PM

puke

Bug Eyed Earl

11-08-2006, 03:27 PM

Some people have their fucking anti-diego glasses on. Diego clearly won the fight two rounds to one.

I dislike the space cadet as much as anyone but his scrambling skills are the best in the sport.

And the scores are irrelevant, the correct fighter won.

And don't listen to Ashes, he hasn't seen the fight.

20yearoldvirgin

11-08-2006, 04:00 PM

Some people have their fucking anti-diego glasses on. Diego clearly won the fight two rounds to one.
I dislike the space cadet as much as anyone but his scrambling skills are the best in the sport.

And the scores are irrelevant, the correct fighter won.

And don't listen to Ashes, he hasn't seen the fight.
This is as bad as me saying that Diego got a gift.

VictimSix

11-08-2006, 04:38 PM

Tha Pitbull

11-08-2006, 05:36 PM

:rollllling:
UFC needs new judges, almost as bad as gsp/penn.
WTF GSP beat Penn 2-1 and if it hadn't been for the finger in the eye GSP would have beat him 3-0. See Penn has a habit of poking people in the eye as evident in the Hughes rematch. And yes GSP had a busted nose but that occurred after the eye poke and GSP held his own to last out the round. The last two rounds were straight up GSP rounds! GSP landed the cleaner punches in the last two round and slammed Penn to get the take down.
GSP clearly won a close hard fight.

steve_dave (old account)

11-08-2006, 05:39 PM

GSP :2:

FourHooks

11-08-2006, 05:51 PM

all this fucking bickering over scorecards.....MMA shouldnt score fights, PERIOD. 3 rounds isnt enough for a clear winner to emerge most of the time, esp when being judged on a round by round basis.....its too easy to have one close round, and two split rounds....If its not 30-27(or less), it should be a draw

FourHooks

11-08-2006, 05:51 PM

GSP :2:agreed

FourHooks

11-08-2006, 05:54 PM

WTF GSP beat Penn 2-1 and if it hadn't been for the finger in the eye GSP would have beat him 3-0. See Penn has a habit of poking people in the eye as evident in the Hughes rematch. And yes GSP had a busted nose but that occurred after the eye poke and GSP held his own to last out the round. The last two rounds were straight up GSP rounds! GSP landed the cleaner punches in the last two round and slammed Penn to get the take down.
GSP clearly won a close hard fight.another fight where neither guy really deserved to lose....GSP probably got the best of him, but you cant come away from that fight saying GSP, and that there is no room for argument. I think GSP won, but I can understand guys having a gripe the other way.

Same with Tito vs Forrest, i think Tito won that one, mostly because the first round should have been a two point round, but there are many people who think forrest won 2-1. My arguement there is the same, that the first round was a two point round, so at worst Tito gets the draw, but the same as my last 129 posts in this thread, MMA is not meant to be decided on judges cards......if its not unanimous, it should be a draw

Tha Pitbull

11-08-2006, 05:56 PM

GSP :2:
GSP is the man plain and simple and he is a true "mixed martial artist"! He seems to be able to do it all and is very well rounded at and early age. I'm american but I could care less about him being from canada I hope he beats Hughes ass badly and knocks him them fuck out! He's a prick in person

Tha Pitbull

11-08-2006, 06:10 PM

another fight where neither guy really deserved to lose....GSP probably got the best of him, but you cant come away from that fight saying GSP, and that there is no room for argument. I think GSP won, but I can understand guys having a gripe the other way.

Same with Tito vs Forrest, i think Tito won that one, mostly because the first round should have been a two point round, but there are many people who think forrest won 2-1. My arguement there is the same, that the first round was a two point round, so at worst Tito gets the draw, but the same as my last 129 posts in this thread, MMA is not meant to be decided on judges cards......if its not unanimous, it should be a draw
The point is they do score fight's and GSP clearly won but I do agree with you about the scoring. I think draws should be used when you have close fight's like Karo/Diego, Hermen/Grooves, Forrest/Tito(I think Forrest won) and so on but it's not that way now and going by what happened in the fight GSP beat Penn and the people that say other wise are the people that are going on the blood factor and thats a bullshit excuse because GSP's eye was bleeding from being poked in it(illegal) and as a result got punched in the nose
other then that GSP showed to be the better fighter that night. I happen to believe Penn is a great fighter when he wants to be so I'm not basing my opinion off of hate for Penn.

FourHooks

11-08-2006, 06:15 PM

The point is they do score fight's and GSP clearly won but I do agree with you about the scoring. I think draws should be used when you have close fight's like Karo/Diego, Hermen/Grooves, Forrest/Tito(I think Forrest won) and so on but it's not that way now and going by what happened in the fight GSP beat Penn and the people that say other wise are the people that are going on the blood factor and thats a bullshit excuse because GSP's eye was bleeding from being poked in it(illegal) and as a result got punched in the nose
other then that GSP showed to be the better fighter that night. I happen to believe Penn is a great fighter when he wants to be so I'm basing my opinion off of hate for Penn.thats really all you had to say:nixweiss: :jester:

I dont think thats its a fact that GSP showed he was a better fighter that night....Penn is a better boxer for sure, and strength and size has a ton to do with why BJ lost that fight

VictimSix

11-08-2006, 10:47 PM

WTF GSP beat Penn 2-1 and if it hadn't been for the finger in the eye GSP would have beat him 3-0. See Penn has a habit of poking people in the eye as evident in the Hughes rematch. And yes GSP had a busted nose but that occurred after the eye poke and GSP held his own to last out the round. The last two rounds were straight up GSP rounds! GSP landed the cleaner punches in the last two round and slammed Penn to get the take down.
GSP clearly won a close hard fight.
You need to watch that fight again. You don't win rounds by getting punched in the face. I like gsp but he did NOTHING in that fight, in the last two minutes he hit the mat really hard. Last round was gsp but not the 1st or 2nd. He got owned in the stand up and had to defend a sub, as where penn had to handle a bit of GnP in the end. All you had to do was look at his face after the fight. I really like gsp and I hope he beats Hughes but he didn't beat Penn.

I agree with everything everyone has said about scorecards though.

FourHooks

11-09-2006, 06:49 AM

You need to watch that fight again. You don't win rounds by getting punched in the face. I like gsp but he did NOTHING in that fight, in the last two minutes he hit the mat really hard. Last round was gsp but not the 1st or 2nd. He got owned in the stand up and had to defend a sub, as where penn had to handle a bit of GnP in the end. All you had to do was look at his face after the fight. I really like gsp and I hope he beats Hughes but he didn't beat Penn.

I agree with everything everyone has said about scorecards though.thats soooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking stupid

Tha Pitbull

11-09-2006, 02:26 PM

thats soooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking stupid
And thats why I didn't reply to that bullshit:jester: :loveballs:

VictimSix

11-09-2006, 04:17 PM

thats soooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking stupid
Nah

FourHooks

11-09-2006, 04:37 PM

Nahyeah it really is.....A guy could have two black eyes, a busted lip, and a broken nose after being struck 3 or 4 times, and never had another lick landed on them, and the dominate the rest of the fight....its a terrible logic, period

thats why you watch the fight, instead of just looking at the guys afterward and saying, "oh, well Gatti musta lost this one"

VictimSix

11-09-2006, 04:50 PM

yeah it really is.....A guy could have two black eyes, a busted lip, and a broken nose after being struck 3 or 4 times, and never had another lick landed on them, and the dominate the rest of the fight....its a terrible logic, period

Yeah but thats not at all what happen in the penn/gsp fight. That's not my "logic" for every fight but for that fight all you had to do was see his face to know he lost. They pretty much had a boxing match and gsp got out class, simple as that. He won the last round but it wasn't a 10 8 round, no reason why he won the split. And if someone in mma took 3 or 4 shots that gave him two black eyes a broken nose and a busted lip he wouldn't still be fighting.

FourHooks

11-09-2006, 05:37 PM

Yeah but thats not at all what happen in the penn/gsp fight. That's not my "logic" for every fight but for that fight all you had to do was see his face to know he lost. They pretty much had a boxing match and gsp got out class, simple as that. He won the last round but it wasn't a 10 8 round, no reason why he won the split. And if someone in mma took 3 or 4 shots that gave him two black eyes a broken nose and a busted lip he wouldn't still be fighting.thats just untrue, simply and completely...in no circumstance is that logic ever acceptable