UFC 66

[TFK]

This is a loaded card...

-UFC 66: DECEMBER 30 IN LAS VEGAS

Main Card Bouts:
-Chuck Liddell (#1 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Tito Ortiz (#7 Light Heavyweight)*
-Andrei Arlovski (#6 Heavyweight)* vs. Marcio "Pe de Pano" Cruz
-Forrest Griffin vs. Keith Jardine
-Michael Bisping vs. Eric Schafer
-Chris Leben vs. Jason MacDonald


This isn't some typical boxing 'Main Event and a bunch of crap' card, this card is stacked with 5 good matchups. You have the two biggest Light Heavyweights in America in a rematch in Liddell\Tito 2.

You have the former Heavyweight Champion starting his comeback against Cruz, who KO'd the man who submitted the man in UFC.

You have Forrest Griffin, arguably the UFC's most exciting fighter against TUF 2's Keith Jardine. If Forrest wins, look for him to face Tito in a rematch sometime in 2007.

You have the winner of TUF 3 Michael Bisping in his first match since winning the finals.

And in what could be the most interesting match of the night, Chris Leben against Jason Macdonald. Leben has that 'Tommy Morisson' mystique to him, and he can bang with the best of them, but as Anderson Silva proved, his chin is a bit suspect too. And Macdonald is coming off of his upset over Jens Pulver, and looking to make it two in a row.

A great card from top to bottom.

TFK

[FourHooks]

This is a loaded card...

-UFC 66: DECEMBER 30 IN LAS VEGAS

Main Card Bouts:
-Chuck Liddell (#1 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Tito Ortiz (#7 Light Heavyweight)*
-Andrei Arlovski (#6 Heavyweight)* vs. Marcio "Pe de Pano" Cruz
-Forrest Griffin vs. Keith Jardine
-Michael Bisping vs. Eric Schafer
-Chris Leben vs. Jason MacDonald


This isn't some typical boxing 'Main Event and a bunch of crap' card, this card is stacked with 5 good matchups. You have the two biggest Light Heavyweights in America in a rematch in Liddell\Tito 2.

You have the former Heavyweight Champion starting his comeback against Cruz, who KO'd the man who submitted the man in UFC.

You have Forrest Griffin, arguably the UFC's most exciting fighter against TUF 2's Keith Jardine. If Forrest wins, look for him to face Tito in a rematch sometime in 2007.

You have the winner of TUF 3 Michael Bisping in his first match since winning the finals.

And in what could be the most interesting match of the night, Chris Leben against Jason Macdonald. Leben has that 'Tommy Morisson' mystique to him, and he can bang with the best of them, but as Anderson Silva proved, his chin is a bit suspect too. And Macdonald is coming off of his upset over Jens Pulver, and looking to make it two in a row.

A great card from top to bottom.

TFK:nono:

ed herman

[TFK]

:nono:

ed herman

You're right. I'm not sure what made me write Jens Pulver.

[20yearoldvirgin]

It's an okay card. The Athlete vs. Leben is very interesting, so is Liddell/Ortiz and Griffin/Jardine should be a fun fight.

I am not interested in Arlovski and Bisbing.

[Tam Tam]

Griffin vs Jardine has the makings of FOTY. That should be just brutal. We all know how tough Griffin is...but if he stands with Jardine, he might very well die.

Arlovski will slaughter that homo Brazilian. Won't even be competetive, IMO.

Liddell v Ortiz II is exciting in that you have a top light heavy, vs. a guy nobody likes. Personally, I don't care who wins, because Liddell doesn't set my world on fire either.

Rest of the card seems ok. I always enjoy watching Leben go at it with someone. I guess next time someone yells "KNEE!" at him though, maybe he understands what to do about it.

[THKS]

".....I felt like I was going to sleep so I tapped like a bitch.."

-- Ed Herman, following loss to Jason McDonald


:jester:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I thought in the UFC they fought the best guys in their weight class. #1 against #7 ain't da best.

[TFK]

I thought in the UFC they fought the best guys in their weight class. #1 against #7 ain't da best.

At least it's better then boxing where there's barely anyone good enough to even be considered #7 in their weight class, much less #1.

TFK

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Anyways after the main event what fight is actually worth watching?

[20yearoldvirgin]

Anyways after the main event what fight is actually worth watching?
Leben vs. McDonald.

That should be a good fight.

[TFK]

Anyways after the main event what fight is actually worth watching?

All of them.

Griffin\Jardine should be a war, Leben is always entertaining, Bisping is having his first UFC fight since winning the TUF final and he's 11-0 winning every fight by KO or submission, and it should be interesting to see how Arlovski fares in his first fight back since losing the belt then the rematch to Tim Sylvia.

Seriously, this is a good card, much better then the next UFC PPV on Superbowl weekend, when you'll see Silva and GSP walk through Lutter in Serra in a pair of mismatches.

TFK

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

All of them.

Griffin\Jardine should be a war, Leben is always entertaining, Bisping is having his first UFC fight since winning the TUF final and he's 11-0 winning every fight by KO or submission, and it should be interesting to see how Arlovski fares in his first fight back since losing the belt then the rematch to Tim Sylvia.

Seriously, this is a good card, much better then the next UFC PPV on Superbowl weekend, when you'll see Silva and GSP walk through Lutter in Serra in a pair of mismatches.

TFK
I hope so as there is no boxing and watching the Giants-Redskins game will be bad for my heart im probably going to have to watch this.

[FourHooks]

I hope so as there is no boxing and watching the Giants-Redskins game will be bad for my heart im probably going to have to watch this.please dont, I dont want to hear you bitch about watching something you consider so boring....

you're like a dog who constantly goes past his boundaries, even though he knows the shock collar will get him

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

please dont, I dont want to hear you bitch about watching something you consider so boring....

you're like a dog who constantly goes past his boundaries, even though he knows the shock collar will get him I say what i see. If its good i will say it is. If it sucks i will say it does. Hopefully this time i can stay awake for the Main Event :jester: .

I will use my SA (Stay Awake)scale to rate this show.

[Free Ike]

LMAO at RJJ. He always bashes MMA, but he post here as much or more than anyone. Why do you say you hate it when you comment on it. You post about it on a message board. You are a closet MMA fan if I have ever seen one.

[FourHooks]

LMAO at RJJ. He always bashes MMA, but he post here as much or more than anyone. Why do you say you hate it when you comment on it. You post about it on a message board. You are a closet MMA fan if I have ever seen one.his email name is something like "titoortizisgod" or something like that:jester:

no joke

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

LMAO at RJJ. He always bashes MMA, but he post here as much or more than anyone. Why do you say you hate it when you comment on it. You post about it on a message board. You are a closet MMA fan if I have ever seen one.This comes from a guy who hates on everything and everybody

[FourHooks]

This comes from a guy who hates on everything and everybody:nono: Ike loves vicodin and black women

[Free Ike]

:nono: Ike loves vicodin and black women
Uh, let's just limit that to vicodin.

[D MAN]

I thought in the UFC they fought the best guys in their weight class. #1 against #7 ain't da best.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the #7 ranking is in the world, putting Ortiz nearer to #2 or #3 in the UFC, which is the only available fights for Lidell.

Besides, everyone wants to see this fight happen regardless of what the ranking is.

[FourHooks]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the #7 ranking is in the world, putting Ortiz nearer to #2 or #3 in the UFC, which is the only available fights for Lidell.

Besides, everyone wants to see this fight happen regardless of what the ranking is.yeah, mma rankings arent like boxing......the top tier athletes in MMA are alot closer to one another than in boxing.....MANY more "upsets" in MMA than in boxing

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

his email name is something like "titoortizisgod" or something like that:jester:

no joke
I like Ortiz his fights are entertaining. His fights with Shamrock not Ken (damn i can't even remember his brothers name) and Metzger are fun to watch.

[TFK]

I like Ortiz his fights are entertaining. His fights with Shamrock not Ken (damn i can't even remember his brothers name) and Metzger are fun to watch.

Frank

[Double L]

I like Ortiz his fights are entertaining. His fights with Shamrock not Ken (damn i can't even remember his brothers name) and Metzger are fun to watch.

RJJ, are you going to order UFC 66? do you think it will be good? isn't Ortiz just going to get out-wrestled?

[FourHooks]

RJJ, are you going to order UFC 66? do you think it will be good? isn't Ortiz just going to get out-wrestled?:nono: Ortiz is a better wrestler than Chuck, but that doesnt mean he can keep Chuck from standing, and thats were Tito is in trouble

[20yearoldvirgin]

Frank and Ken aren't really brothers. They were just adopted by the same guy, like Tyson by that pedophile.

I think I might go to a bar to watch it. And Chuck won't out wrestle Tito. I think he will knock him out, in the first 3 minutes.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

RJJ, are you going to order UFC 66? do you think it will be good? isn't Ortiz just going to get out-wrestled?I get it for free so ill check it out as there is no boxing tonight. I think Ortiz will get KTFO like he did last time.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

FrankThanks couldn't remember his name for a New York minute. He was a good announcer too.

[LOK]

someone do a round by round as I am not watching it:holla:

[El Terible]

Wtime do you think the Main Event will start?

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Wtime do you think the Main Event will start?
About 12PM EST :nixweiss:

[Double L]

my first UFC PPV! i'm psyched! :jester:

what's better, UFC or Pride?

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Ko from Bisping. Fight was pretty entertaining.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Alovski wit da KO. Cruz is KTFO.

[Double L]

this is pathetic - all they do is advertise ufc67

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

this is pathetic - all they do is advertise ufc67:jester: Dub these commentators make you appreciate the HBO team so much more don't they. Joe Regan is God awful. Jeff Blatnik was much better.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I hope this borefest ends in a double KO.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Jackson is a pimp.

[Double L]

i thought the mcdonald fight was pretty good. some sick knees and left hands landed by the other guy. i think he just got tired - doesn't look like he was in too good a shape, ...

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

UFC cheerleader just said the crowd was going crazy for Griffen. The crowd was just sat there silently :nixweiss:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Forrest Griffen AKA Arturo Gatti just got KTFO in 1.

[Double L]

Forrest Griffen AKA Arturo Gatti just got KTFO in 1.

:jester:

good fight though...

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Mike Goldberg just said this fight was a slugfest :jester: . Nothing happened before the KO.

[Trplsec]

You ever not PPV an event and then wish you had?

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

You ever not PPV an event and then wish you had?If you feel that way you made the right call.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

This shouldn't take long Tito looks scared as hell.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Chuck is getting a Manny Paq reception.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Big round for Chuck. Ortiz was hurt. Chuck can end this fight anytime he wants if he gets aggressive. Tito is scared as hell.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Ortiz won that round with some good kicks some punches. He got a takedown as well. Chuck did nothing.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Chuck wins by KO.

[Double L]

Chuck is a bad-ass.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Chuck is a bad-ass.He should have won in round 1. Anytime he attacked Tito just covered up.

[Double L]

i wanna see chuck vs. "rampage."

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I want to see him move up and fight Fedor :jester:

[Double L]

I want to see him move up and fight Fedor :jester:

do they make inter-league fights?

[Trplsec]

Tito get thumbed in the eye again????

[MAXWELL]

Chuck looks unbeatable out there,the fight could have been stopped in the 1st rd.


Lol at leben scolding the "drunk crowds" of ufc for booing.

[Double L]

Tito get thumbed in the eye again????

no. he got cut above the eye bad in the first round, and dropped with a left hook. won the second round close. and then traded with chuck in the third before being beaten into submission.

[20yearoldvirgin]

It looked like Chuck could have won the fight at any point he wanted. I was glad he won, because some asshole at the bar was yelling during Tito's entrance "YEAHAHA TITO! HOW CAN YOU LOSE BABY, HOW CAN YOU LOSE!!!" :rolleyes:

Forrest Griffin is an asshole. He puts on the 'good natured ugly guy' act, but only when he wins, when he loses, he can't even give an interview.

Jason McDonald. :2:

[20yearoldvirgin]

my first UFC PPV! i'm psyched! :jester:

what's better, UFC or Pride?
Me too!
:2:

[Double L]

Me too!
:2:

it was pretty good i thought. much more striking than i remember when i watched it on cable years ago.

[Anthony]

anyone have a video yet?

[Big L]

anyone have a video yet?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6916EA8R

[20yearoldvirgin]

it was pretty good i thought. much more striking than i remember when i watched it on cable years ago.
Most fights were pretty short, which is good, because long UFC fights tend to be boring. I liked the Jason MacDonald/Chris Leben fight, especially the finish, and lol at Leben calling out the drunk losers after the fight. ghfjdgs

[Anthony]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6916EA8RI can never see anything on megaupload. It always says that i have exceeded my limit, despite never downloading anything.

[20yearoldvirgin]

I can never see anything on megaupload. It always says that i have exceeded my limit, despite never downloading anything.
You didn't miss much in the Liddell/Ortiz fight, it's not like it was a brutal knockout or anything, I actually thought it was a bad stoppage, although Ortiz was getting his ass kicked at that point.

[Big L]

I can never see anything on megaupload. It always says that i have exceeded my limit, despite never downloading anything.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/n3o4fs

[Maj]

I can never see anything on megaupload. It always says that i have exceeded my limit, despite never downloading anything.

With Megaupload, ensure you're only downloading one thing at a time. When I first started, that was my problem. I'd try to do more than one at a time.

[Anthony]

With Megaupload, ensure you're only downloading one thing at a time. When I first started, that was my problem. I'd try to do more than one at a time.The problem is that i never downloaded anything from there and everytime i try to, it says that my ip just downloaded something. I may have to just join the so that way i get unlimited downloads.

[Anthony]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/n3o4fsThanks Larry

[FourHooks]

Mike Goldberg just said this fight was a slugfest :jester: . Nothing happened before the KO.then you didnt watch until the KO happened....my god you're a terrible closet fan

[FourHooks]

You didn't miss much in the Liddell/Ortiz fight, it's not like it was a brutal knockout or anything, I actually thought it was a bad stoppage, although Ortiz was getting his ass kicked at that point.I thought so too, but Tito didnt protest much.....it looked as if there was SOME semblance of thought behind the way Tito was defending himself, and not many of those punches were landing.....

Tam would be happy to know the beginning of the end was when Tito "got stupid" with Chuck. Tam has said it time and again, dont get stupid with Chuck, because Chuck is great at getting stupid....for his lack of technical boxing skill, when the bombs start flying, Chuck has incredible accuracy, vision, and poise

Bisping has to fight not to lose, then Shafer gassed and Bisping took advantage

The athlete looked great, kid is impressive.

Nice shot while sitting on his ass by Arlovski. I was kind of wanting to see the footlock war

Jardin and Griffen was a great fight, as advertised. Jardine's left hook looks sharp. Forrest was beside himself after the fight, sobbing like a woman in the corner.

Thiago Alves continues to lay the groundwork to move him up the ladder to contender status.

really good card

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

then you didnt watch until the KO happened....my god you're a terrible closet fanYeah i did, they stood there staring at each other.

[20yearoldvirgin]

I thought Tony DeSouza was supposed to be good. He got manhandled out there.

[ElTerrible]

I have watched this Liddell guy twice now, and besides a good judgement of distance, and landing occasional accurate haymakers, he´s basically a mediocre boxer with a good chin and power. That´s the best fighter they have, Mormeck would kill him in MMA. :sulkoff::sulkoff:

[20yearoldvirgin]

I have watched this Liddell guy twice now, and besides a good judgement of distance, and landing occasional accurate haymakers, he´s basically a mediocre boxer with a good chin and power. That´s the best fighter they have, Mormeck would kill him in MMA. :sulkoff::sulkoff:
He's not the best fighter, I think GSP is. Also, Anderson Silva is a much better technical striker than Chuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xicEBzBPPvg

[Bob N Weave]

I have watched this Liddell guy twice now, and besides a good judgement of distance, and landing occasional accurate haymakers, he´s basically a mediocre boxer with a good chin and power. That´s the best fighter they have, Mormeck would kill him in MMA. :sulkoff::sulkoff:

You really think that Liddell would fight Mormeck the same as he would a MMA fighter????? MMa is about diversification, and that is the reason why Mormeck would have a snowballs chance in hell in beating Liddell in MMA

[FourHooks]

Lidell would look like a Gracie against Mormeck, that or he'd kick him in the face:jester:

[Free Ike]

I thought the main even was disappointing. Tito Ortiz just came for a moral victory. He really is Chuck's bitch. He looked absolutely terrified in there. Liddell didn't look like a world beater either. He is getting old but he has the type of toughness that helped him win. Ortiz was simply terrified.

[FourHooks]

I thought the main even was disappointing. Tito Ortiz just came for a moral victory. He really is Chuck's bitch. He looked absolutely terrified in there. Liddell didn't look like a world beater either. He is getting old but he has the type of toughness that helped him win. Ortiz was simply terrified.I agree.....any time the distance was closed, I thought Tito was gonna shit himself.....he should have tried to work a clinch and get the takedown from there, but everytime they got to the inside, Tito ran.....his shot attempts were nothing short of awful

[Free Ike]

I agree.....any time the distance was closed, I thought Tito was gonna shit himself.....he should have tried to work a clinch and get the takedown from there, but everytime they got to the inside, Tito ran.....his shot attempts were nothing short of awful
His right hand was comical. Just listen to him in the post fight interview. I tried. He didn't even once try to take Chuck down whether he could or not isn't the issue. If you are a ground and pound guy, you don't strike with a guy who is undisputedly a better striker. If you "try" at least "try" to win the only way you can. I am sure Tita will say he was trying to take Chuck deep and drown him, but he didn't work in there. Tito didn't even want to win. My point is, even when he fought scared he still got knocked out. Why not try to knock the other guy out.

I was shocked at the Forrest result. I almost didn't watch it because I thought it was just a walk in fight, but fdgdssddw fdgdssddw He still beat Tito though.

[FourHooks]

His right hand was comical. Just listen to him in the post fight interview. I tried. He didn't even once try to take Chuck down whether he could or not isn't the issue. If you are a ground and pound guy, you don't strike with a guy who is undisputedly a better striker. If you "try" at least "try" to win the only way you can. I am sure Tita will say he was trying to take Chuck deep and drown him, but he didn't work in there. Tito didn't even want to win. My point is, even when he fought scared he still got knocked out. Why not try to knock the other guy out.

I was shocked at the Forrest result. I almost didn't watch it because I thought it was just a walk in fight, but fdgdssddw fdgdssddw He still beat Tito though.First off, Chuck can be outboxed, just not by Tito.....

Secondly, no way did Forrest beat Tito.....A draw, probably, but he did not beat him.....The first round was 10-8 Tito, therefore the best result for Forrest was a draw.....

Third, why would you think someone would just walk through Jardine, esp Forrest, who arguably lost to Bonnar when Bonnar, in all fairness, actually lost to Jardine.....Jardine is a tough mother at 205, and is a guy who is game enough to hang in with almost anyone

[20yearoldvirgin]

First off, Chuck can be outboxed, just not by Tito.....

Secondly, no way did Forrest beat Tito.....A draw, probably, but he did not beat him.....The first round was 10-8 Tito, therefore the best result for Forrest was a draw.....

Third, why would you think someone would just walk through Jardine, esp Forrest, who arguably lost to Bonnar when Bonnar, in all fairness, actually lost to Jardine.....Jardine is a tough mother at 205, and is a guy who is game enough to hang in with almost anyone
he's the dean of mean, afterall.

[FourHooks]

he's the dean of mean, afterall.hate to admit it, but I kind of like that nickname

[Free Ike]

First off, Chuck can be outboxed, just not by Tito.....

Secondly, no way did Forrest beat Tito.....A draw, probably, but he did not beat him.....The first round was 10-8 Tito, therefore the best result for Forrest was a draw.....

Third, why would you think someone would just walk through Jardine, esp Forrest, who arguably lost to Bonnar when Bonnar, in all fairness, actually lost to Jardine.....Jardine is a tough mother at 205, and is a guy who is game enough to hang in with almost anyone
One, what the fuck does the fact that chuck can be outboxed have to do with what I wrote. Tito shouldn't have tried to strike with him.

Secondly, fine a draw or whatever, but I just thought Forrest would win. Garden, I refuse to Frenchify his name, is a decent fighter. I just didn't put much thought into the fight. I was just surprised that's all. Garden has the worst nickname in the history of martial arts/boxing except for SugarPooh and that is more of a draw. I guess that is why I thought Forrest was going to beat his ass down:jester: :jester:

[MassaCure]

One, what the fuck does the fact that chuck can be outboxed have to do with what I wrote. Tito shouldn't have tried to strike with him.

Secondly, fine a draw or whatever, but I just thought Forrest would win. Garden, I refuse to Frenchify his name, is a decent fighter. I just didn't put much thought into the fight. I was just surprised that's all. Garden has the worst nickname in the history of martial arts/boxing except for SugarPooh and that is more of a draw. I guess that is why I thought Forrest was going to beat his ass down:jester: :jester:

there was a misunderstanding, you where saying he was the best striker of the two, he thought u meant he was the best striker period

[Free Ike]

there was a misunderstanding, you where saying he was the best striker of the two, he thought u meant he was the best striker period
I hope he misread it. Ask Rampage if Chuck is the best striker in the world. :jester: :jester:

[FourHooks]

I hope he misread it. Ask Rampage if Chuck is the best striker in the world. :jester: :jester:thats kind of my point Ike....Rampage outboxed Chuck....In their first fight, Randy outboxed Chuck....its not unheard of for someone to outbox Chuck, but when guys start to brawl with him, thats when they get caught.....I think Tito was trying to follow the same plan that won those fights for Chuck and Quinton, he's just not as good a boxer as those guys....

To try to just shoot double legs all night would have been as pointless as trying to out slug Chuck.....Tito had a plan, which to some degree had worked for other fighters in the past, he just couldnt come through on it

[Free Ike]

thats kind of my point Ike....Rampage outboxed Chuck....In their first fight, Randy outboxed Chuck....its not unheard of for someone to outbox Chuck, but when guys start to brawl with him, thats when they get caught.....I think Tito was trying to follow the same plan that won those fights for Chuck and Quinton, he's just not as good a boxer as those guys....

To try to just shoot double legs all night would have been as pointless as trying to out slug Chuck.....Tito had a plan, which to some degree had worked for other fighters in the past, he just couldnt come through on it
He was too terrified to be disciplined. And Rampage didn't outbox shit. He straight up beat Chuck down. I just rewatched that last night. My friend was going on and on about Chuck and I was like he ain't unbeatable and I showed him the rampage fight. Rampage just walked him down. Rampage has a great jab. I wonder how he'd do in the boxing ring. His jab is pretty damn good. It looks like a telephone pole.

[Beyond the Grave]

He was too terrified to be disciplined. And Rampage didn't outbox shit. He straight up beat Chuck down. I just rewatched that last night. My friend was going on and on about Chuck and I was like he ain't unbeatable and I showed him the rampage fight. Rampage just walked him down. Rampage has a great jab. I wonder how he'd do in the boxing ring. His jab is pretty damn good. It looks like a telephone pole.

Jackson's had some K1 fights before.

[Free Ike]

Jackson's had some K1 fights before.
Yeah, saw one of them and with boxing gloves on his jab looked amazing. I meant American Boxing, but yeah the K-1 slipped my mind.