MMA TOP 10 POUND FOR POUND

[cupey alto]

These rankings are based on a fighter's accomplishments. I try to avoid ranking one fighter ahead of another based on speculation, because I think he can beat the other guy, or because he is stronger, faster or has superior technique. For how many of us thought Buster Douglas was going to get KTFO’d by Mike Tyson. Or, to cite a more recent happening in MMA, who assumed legend Jens Pulver was going to trounce unknown Joe Lauzon last September? Would even one in a hundred diehard fans have predicted that loss, and in such quick, brutal fashion?

http://fightbeat.com/article_detail.php?AT=248

Thanks for your comments.

NYCKID

[20yearoldvirgin]

I'm not an mma expert, but the list looks good to me.

[MassaCure]

garbage list

[FourHooks]

eh, i agree with your number 1, but thats about it....

I'd go with something like

Fedor
Shogun
GSP
Wandy
Chuck
Matt
Gomi
Cro Cop
Kid Yam
Penn

[FourHooks]

garbage listI'm kinda in agreement with you.....list em Massa, lets see it

[MassaCure]

I'm kinda in agreement with you.....list em Massa, lets see it

mines is close to yours, i had a problem with chuck being number 2

[FourHooks]

mines is close to yours, i had a problem with chuck being number 2yeah, me too. I know you're not a big fan of Chuck (at least i think i remember that correctly), but 2 is just too high for him....If he BLASTS out Ortiz, thats a little better, but his latest wins arent that great....beating up on Coture is good shit, but Babalu and Horn arent awe inspiring wins.....

Shogun at the tourney, GSP whooping Matt, and everything Wandy has done in the last 5 years put them ahead of Chuck on my list

[THKS]

yeah, me too. I know you're not a big fan of Chuck (at least i think i remember that correctly), but 2 is just too high for him....If he BLASTS out Ortiz, thats a little better, but his latest wins arent that great....beating up on Coture is good shit, but Babalu and Horn arent awe inspiring wins.....

Shogun at the tourney, GSP whooping Matt, and everything Wandy has done in the last 5 years put them ahead of Chuck on my list
Don't forget to embellish upon GSP accomplishments with wins over Trigg, Sherk and Penn.

A few intangibles had me believing his victory over Hughes was already sealed after their first fight. All of this puts him on par with both Rua and Silva. Liddell has been fed recycled fighters far too long now.

I'm interested to see Rampage and Marvin Eastman which will tell how much Rampage has improved. With the changes he's taken in his training approach I'm expecting a different fighter than the one I saw against Liddell. He's going to have to be different to beat this Liddell.

[FourHooks]

Don't forget to embellish upon GSP accomplishments with wins over Trigg, Sherk and Penn.

A few intangibles had me believing his victory over Hughes was already sealed after their first fight. All of this puts him on par with both Rua and Silva. Liddell has been fed recycled fighters far too long now.

I'm interested to see Rampage and Marvin Eastman which will tell how much Rampage has improved. With the changes he's taken in his training approach I'm expecting a different fighter than the one I saw against Liddell. He's going to have to be different to beat this Liddell.how Eastman is a gauge for Rampage's IMPROVEMENT, I dont know.....any version of Rampage past the 10 fight mark of his career should beat Eastman

[Beyond the Grave]

Liddell hasn't changed and even if he did, how would we know when he's fought nothing but ground fighters with below average standup.

[suiteness]

Josh Barnett? :nono:

[THKS]

how Eastman is a gauge for Rampage's IMPROVEMENT, I dont know.....any version of Rampage past the 10 fight mark of his career should beat Eastman


First, I did not question the outcome of Jackson and Eastman. With the recent changes he's made in his training EVERY fight, from this point, WILL be a measuring stick for Jackson as his style needs a major overhaul. Therefore not just Eastman but every fighter he faces will answer questions I have. I just mentioned Eastman because Quinton gets him first.

[FourHooks]

First, I did not question the outcome of Jackson and Eastman. With the recent changes he's made in his training EVERY fight, from this point, WILL be a measuring stick for Jackson as his style needs a major overhaul. Therefore not just Eastman but every fighter he faces will answer questions I have. I just mentioned Eastman because Quinton gets him first.Rampage is damaged goods....

[THKS]

Rampage is damaged goods....

That remains to be seen compadre.

[FourHooks]

That remains to be seen compadre.ahh, I'm more or less joking....I think the problem was he's a chronic underacheiver and terribly inconsistent.....

So what if he beats the snot out of Eastman....it doesnt mean shit

[Tha Pitbull]

ahh, I'm more or less joking....I think the problem was he's a chronic underacheiver and terribly inconsistent.....

So what if he beats the snot out of Eastman....it doesnt mean shitYeah it does Eastman beat Quinton in his 3rd fight at King of the Cage so it means Rampage gets to avenge a loss.

[FourHooks]

Yeah it does Eastman beat Quinton in his 3rd fight at King of the Cage so it means Rampage gets to avenge a loss.
please, that loss was avenged when Quinton started cashing his Pride paychecks.....Losing ones third MMA fight to a seasoned veteran is no big bananas.....

[Tha Pitbull]

please, that loss was avenged when Quinton started cashing his Pride paychecks.....Losing ones third MMA fight to a seasoned veteran is no big bananas.....Well its not about what your ass thinks because you are the shit on the bottom of Quinton's shoes but it means something to Quinton because he has been wanting this rematch for a long time so you can believe it's one fight he ASKED for when he signed his contract.

Quinton don't give a rats ass if YOU think the fight means anything because it means something to him and thats all that matters. You ain't no fighter you're just an internet poster that likes to complain about who people fight.

[FourHooks]

Well its not about what your ass thinks because you are the shit on the bottom of Quinton's shoes but it means something to Quinton because he has been wanting this rematch for a long time so you can believe it's one fight he ASKED for when he signed his contract.

Quinton don't give a rats ass if YOU think the fight means anything because it means something to him and thats all that matters. You ain't no fighter you're just an internet poster that likes to complain about who people fight.hmm....glad quinton told you all of that.....and I'm not complaining about the fight, its meaningless, yes, but am I complaining, no....I was commenting on what someone else said.....now go back to being mexi melts bitch

[Tha Pitbull]

hmm....glad quinton told you all of that.....and I'm not complaining about the fight, its meaningless, yes, but am I complaining, no....I was commenting on what someone else said.....now go back to being mexi melts bitchI ain't nobodys bitch you fucking dirty swamp rat. Cuntaliga hasn't beaten me at shit bitch. An yes you are complaining like you always do and the fight isn't meaningless to Quinton fuck nut as I said he's been wanting this rematch ever since the first fight dip-shit.
As for somebody being a hick you're more of a hick then I am I'm from NC and your swamp rat ass is from Louzeeanna as yall call it you crawldad eating, swamp swimming, creole speaking bitch.

[20yearoldvirgin]

Lets everyone just stay calm here.

[FourHooks]

I ain't nobodys bitch you fucking dirty swamp rat. Cuntaliga hasn't beaten me at shit bitch. An yes you are complaining like you always do and the fight isn't meaningless to Quinton fuck nut as I said he's been wanting this rematch ever since the first fight dip-shit.
As for somebody being a hick you're more of a hick then I am I'm from NC and your swamp rat ass is from Louzeeanna as yall call it you crawldad eating, swamp swimming, creole speaking bitch.:jester:

what a friggin moron you are...

[THKS]

ahh, I'm more or less joking....I think the problem was he's a chronic underacheiver and terribly inconsistent.....

So what if he beats the snot out of Eastman....it doesnt mean shit

Which is exactly why I need to see more of him NOW since coming back to the states and since he didn't have the camp before that he does now.

Strength has always been his biggest asset while the rest of his game left much to be desired. Very much in need of improvement indeed. Now he and his camp train with Ortiz's and I'd like to see what kind of effect it will have on his performance. Plus, at 28, he's still young.

[Tha Pitbull]

:jester:

what a friggin moron you are...

No the moron is the dumb fucker who claimed Matt Hughes is the greatest fighter of all time and that honor goes to you dip shit.

[FourHooks]

No the moron is the dumb fucker who claimed Matt Hughes is the greatest fighter of all time and that honor goes to you dip shit.christ dude....you uhh....you need to get laid or something....you're a bit testy.:loveballs:

[D MAN]

eh, i agree with your number 1, but thats about it....

I'd go with something like

Fedor
Shogun
GSP
Wandy
Chuck
Matt
Gomi
Cro Cop
Kid Yam
Penn

Thats pretty much the same list. Good job. :2:

[Tam Tam]

Any list that doesn't have Minowa on it, really isn't worth reading.

[FourHooks]

Any list that doesn't have Minowa on it, really isn't worth reading.yeah, any top 20 list

[TraZ]

wheres giant silva?

[FourHooks]

wheres giant silva?he's on the same list as Minowa:jester:

[20yearoldvirgin]

he's on the same list as Minowa:jester:
So, is Minowa not really good?

[FourHooks]

So, is Minowa not really good?he's nowhere near as bad as giant silva.....Minowa is a decent "stepping stone" type guy.....he gave Baroni all he could handle twice, and came away with the win once.

check him out

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=250

[20yearoldvirgin]

Thanks, I checked him out on wikipedia a bit earlier.

Do you bet on MMA fights?

[FourHooks]

Thanks, I checked him out on wikipedia a bit earlier.

Do you bet on MMA fights?nah, I'm not into gambling too much, although I'm thinking of starting now that I have a little dough in my pocket.....why?