Whitaker vs. Napoles @140

[Double L]

Who wins? Offense vs. Defense (and stink).

[Alabama_Man]

10oz gloves or not? :nixweiss:

[whiskey]

10oz gloves or not? :nixweiss:

Let's split the difference and make it 9oz gloves.

[Alabama_Man]

Then it would be a draw, or really boring decision. I don't see how they could hurt each other with 9oz gloves. :nixweiss:

[cdogg187]

Napoles bleeds to death during the national anthem

[Tam Tam]

Coked out, Whitaker admits he lost to Ramirez the first time and shoots himself pre-fight. Napoles lasts longer.

[cdogg187]

Coked out, Whitaker admits he lost to Ramirez the first time and shoots himself pre-fight. Napoles lasts longer.

:jester:

I wrote that post anticipating your response.

[Tam Tam]

:jester:

I wrote that post anticipating your response.
High five!

[cdogg187]

High five!:rollllling:

[Double L]

10oz gloves or not? :nixweiss:

smart-ass response or not, who wins?

[Alabama_Man]

smart-ass response or not, who wins?

8oz gloves - Whitaker gets the late stoppage, maybe cuts.

9oz gloves - Boring UD for Whitaker

10oz gloves - The bout is stopped due to what is perceived as a fixed fight because the fighters are landing huge haymakers without any ill effect.

B)

[whiskey]

Napoles would try to punch him in the face. Whitaker, the coward that he was would try to get out of the way.

[cdogg187]

Napoles would try to punch him in the face. Whitaker, the coward that he was would try to get out of the way.:rollllling: :rollllling: :rollllling: :rollllling: :rollllling: :rollllling:

[Donnybrook]

NAPOLES.

[whiskey]

NAPOLES.

Is that all you've got? I assume by capitalizing Mantequilla's last name you favor him to win big.

How about some form of reasoning/breakdown? :2:

[Donnybrook]

Is that all you've got? I assume by capitalizing Mantequilla's last name you favor him to win big.

How about some form of reasoning/breakdown? :2:
He's got a better nick name.

[Rubio MHS]

I don't see why Fightbeat even has a Mythical Matchups forum.

[Tam Tam]

I don't see why Fightbeat even has a Mythical Matchups forum.
I am closer to understanding why Fightbeat has a MM forum, than I am of why you bother to log in here when all you ever do is bitch and moan.

[Donnybrook]

I am closer to understanding why Fightbeat has a MM forum, than I am of why you bother to log in here when all you ever do is bitch and moan.

:2:

[Donnybrook]

Ok, a serious go...

Pea's punches were never the cutting kind.

When Napoles hit his physical stride/prime (at 135+) around '63/'64, he was virtually unstoppable, except for cuts (and he pretty much avenged all of those).

He could box VERY well - brilliantly - especially against boxers who tried to fight off the back foot....but could turn it up and really be a cold, calculating brutal fighter when he wanted or had to.

That skill would serve him well in this fight. Aggressive pressure behind a stiff jab and accurate, hard combination punching.

This is where Whitaker's fights with Nelson and to a lesser extend Pendleton, Brazier become important. Even though it happened at 147, Whitaker-McGirt I illustrates some of this as well...and none of those guys had Napoles' skill, accuracy, punching power and strength (except for maybe Nelson on this last point).

His weakness vs. Pea would be his methodical, deliberate approach, but given the significant adjustments in style Napoles showed in beating such different boxers as Urbina, Morgan, Cokes, Griffith, Lopez and then the flashy, slick and quick Hedgemon Lewis, I believe Napoles would adjust to Whitaker well.

He absolutely dominated rematches - and the close first fights he had at 147 (Lewis, Muniz) were more due to him being out of shape and/or dealing with alcohol at that time...which is why the rematches were so decisive.

I think Whitaker's speed, footwork and ability to lean/catch 'n' counter with the right jab and the straight left would pose problems for Napoles....Whitaker would make him lead and for the first rounds, it would go Pernell's way. Whitaker was extremely shifty even at close quarters and would target Napoles' body to build points.

But Napoles has that weapon that you need against Whitaker - a stiff, hard ramrod jab, the ability to put on pressure while boxing....and adjustment ability.

I think Napoles comes on and takes the fight via decision with cleaner, harder punches.

Peace.