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ArturoGatti
04-08-2007, 12:37 AM
AND THE NEW...>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

steve_dave
04-08-2007, 01:24 AM
The UFC is now officially 100% gay.

suiteness
04-08-2007, 01:32 AM
Highlights on Sportscenter!!!!!

Haymaker
04-08-2007, 02:20 AM
damn, Matt Hughes losing to St Pierre........ok. But St Pierre losing to Matt Serra is embarrassing. :doh:

MAXWELL
04-08-2007, 07:58 AM
Now hughes can get back his title and become a 3 time ufc ww champ.

TFK
04-08-2007, 09:08 AM
The UFC is now officially 100% gay.

I guess an upset makes UFC gay.

Thank God there's never been an upset in boxing. Or baseball. Or the NFL.

Picking any reason to hate on the UFC, now that's gay.

TFK

His_Royness
04-08-2007, 11:32 AM
AND THE NEW...>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



why u laugh St. Pierre nuthugger??? :nono: :slap:

Hanzy
04-08-2007, 03:35 PM
Now hughes can get back his title and become a 3 time ufc ww champ.

If Serra can kill GSP, he can kill Matt Hughes. Hughes looked like sh*t in his last fight anyway and his standup is a complete joke.

valdosta
04-08-2007, 05:11 PM
What a ridiculous upset. Especially considering it happened on stand up. Shows how limited MMA talent is. Imagine Calzaghe losing to Manfredo :lol:

valdosta
04-08-2007, 05:12 PM
If Serra can kill GSP, he can kill Matt Hughes. Hughes looked like sh*t in his last fight anyway and his standup is a complete joke.

Pierre never bothered taking him down. hughes will go straight for the takedowns and get them. hughes will soon be champ again :cheer:

suiteness
04-08-2007, 07:01 PM
What a ridiculous upset. Especially considering it happened on stand up. Shows how limited MMA talent is. Imagine Calzaghe losing to Manfredo :lol:

Apples and oranges. Upsets are much more likely to happen in MMA because of the smaller gloves and the lack of a ten count. Tons of top guys have been buzzed in boxing by lesser fighters, but they get a chance to recover and it's far easier to cover up with the bigger gloves.

Haymaker
04-08-2007, 08:08 PM
Apples and oranges. Upsets are much more likely to happen in MMA because of the smaller gloves and the lack of a ten count. Tons of top guys have been buzzed in boxing by lesser fighters, but they get a chance to recover and it's far easier to cover up with the bigger gloves.

excuses, excuses :rolleyes: and I'm not talking about MMA per se, but UFC specifically. their talent level has been exposed as average and inconsistent. Not the great talent pool everyone seems to be talking about.

*Z*
04-09-2007, 12:54 PM
What a ridiculous upset. Especially considering it happened on stand up. Shows how limited MMA talent is. Imagine Calzaghe losing to Manfredo :lol:

Yeah, there has never been an upset in boxing. All it takes is one punch when you're not wearing gloves.

*Z*
04-09-2007, 12:57 PM
excuses, excuses :rolleyes: and I'm not talking about MMA per se, but UFC specifically. their talent level has been exposed as average and inconsistent. Not the great talent pool everyone seems to be talking about.

You guys are just plain crazy. You really need to watch more MMA before you start posting about it. Have you seen GSP fight before? To claim he is limited based on getting caught in one fight is ridiculous. The guy is one of the best welterweights on the planet in any MMA organization.

You people act as if there has never been an upset in Boxing. This was a HUGE upset. This was like Rahman KO'ing Lewis. An obviously less talented fighter just landing the right shot. You guys just look for any reason to hate MMA.

Hanz
04-09-2007, 01:43 PM
You guys are just plain crazy. You really need to watch more MMA before you start posting about it. Have you seen GSP fight before? To claim he is limited based on getting caught in one fight is ridiculous. The guy is one of the best welterweights on the planet in any MMA organization.

You people act as if there has never been an upset in Boxing. This was a HUGE upset. This was like Rahman KO'ing Lewis. An obviously less talented fighter just landing the right shot. You guys just look for any reason to hate MMA.

:lol: :lol: No way Z. No f*cking way!!!! GSP wasn't all that. He still was trying to make his mark in the UFC. No way he was at the pedigree comparitively of a Lennox Lewis. That was his FIRST title defense, not his 14th. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
As for Serra, the dude's been working on his striking apparently.

Hanz
04-09-2007, 01:46 PM
Yeah, there has never been an upset in boxing. All it takes is one punch when you're not wearing gloves.

True. Although GSP got ko'd by alot of punches. But it's not really comparable to boxing because GSP can't take a knee and a 9 count in order to regather himself from a punch like is done in boxing.

Haymaker
04-09-2007, 02:47 PM
You guys are just plain crazy. You really need to watch more MMA before you start posting about it. Have you seen GSP fight before? To claim he is limited based on getting caught in one fight is ridiculous. The guy is one of the best welterweights on the planet in any MMA organization.

You people act as if there has never been an upset in Boxing. This was a HUGE upset. This was like Rahman KO'ing Lewis. An obviously less talented fighter just landing the right shot. You guys just look for any reason to hate MMA.

It wasn't a "lucky punch" like lewis - rahman. Serra beat him to the punch and then koed him. He neutralized GSP's reach advantage. Like someone said: "a reality show fighter beating an established champ"

*Z*
04-09-2007, 02:54 PM
:lol: :lol: No way Z. No f*cking way!!!! GSP wasn't all that. He still was trying to make his mark in the UFC. No way he was at the pedigree comparitively of a Lennox Lewis. That was his FIRST title defense, not his 14th. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
As for Serra, the dude's been working on his striking apparently.

I'm not comparing the level of skill here, just the magnitude of the upset.

There is nobody that I know of or heard that was picking Serra. NOBODY!

*Z*
04-09-2007, 02:58 PM
It wasn't a "lucky punch" like lewis - rahman. Serra beat him to the punch and then koed him. He neutralized GSP's reach advantage. Like someone said: "a reality show fighter beating an established champ"

First off, I am not comparing the fights at all. Just the magnitude of the upset.

Matt Serra is a veteran fighter. He is a world class grappler and has been around LONG before the stupid show. To call him a "Reality show fighter" is not doing Matt Serra justice. The guy has been fighting for a long time.

MAXWELL
04-09-2007, 08:47 PM
Serra is a gate keeper in the ufc. Ofcourse upset is a possibility in his fight with gsp, but i thought it would have been a fluke submission or something not a punch.

TFK
04-09-2007, 09:09 PM
You're more likely to see upsets in MMA then boxing, because there are so many more ways to lose in MMA. You can get ko's from punches, kicks, elbows, you can get submitted in numerous ways, etc.

In boxing, styles are limited. It's mostly boxer or slugger, or some hybrid in between. In MMA you have countless different styles, and if a fighter doesn't match up well to a particuliar style, he can lose.

And while Serra was a huge underdog and most people, myself included, didn't think he would win, he is an established fighter as well as a trainer, and is not your typical 'TUF' fighter. I think he was chosen more for his TV friendly personality then because he fit the mold of a fighter desperate for a 2nd chance.

It's not like Dave Jaco Ko'd a prime Holyfield. Anyone who slams the UFC because of this upset is just showing their ignornance.

TFK

Hanzy
04-09-2007, 11:05 PM
You're more likely to see upsets in MMA then boxing, because there are so many more ways to lose in MMA. You can get ko's from punches, kicks, elbows, you can get submitted in numerous ways, etc.

In boxing, styles are limited. It's mostly boxer or slugger, or some hybrid in between. In MMA you have countless different styles, and if a fighter doesn't match up well to a particuliar style, he can lose.

And while Serra was a huge underdog and most people, myself included, didn't think he would win, he is an established fighter as well as a trainer, and is not your typical 'TUF' fighter. I think he was chosen more for his TV friendly personality then because he fit the mold of a fighter desperate for a 2nd chance.

It's not like Dave Jaco Ko'd a prime Holyfield. Anyone who slams the UFC because of this upset is just showing their ignornance.

TFK

I hope Serra kills that arrogant f*ck Matt Hughes in similar brutal fashion. Notice how Hughes was all happy and smiling after the GSP/Serra upset? As if he was thinking "Yay, now I'll have a chance to win back the title!"
I hope Serra levels his ass with the same right hand that felled GSP. Hughes' standup is the worst in all of MMA. It's like a 12 year old learning boxing for the first time.

steve_dave
04-10-2007, 12:20 AM
I guess an upset makes UFC gay.

Thank God there's never been an upset in boxing. Or baseball. Or the NFL.

Picking any reason to hate on the UFC, now that's gay.

TFK

haha, no I just really like GSP.

Trplsec
04-10-2007, 01:05 AM
You're more likely to see upsets in MMA then boxing, because there are so many more ways to lose in MMA. You can get ko's from punches, kicks, elbows, you can get submitted in numerous ways, etc.

In boxing, styles are limited. It's mostly boxer or slugger, or some hybrid in between. In MMA you have countless different styles, and if a fighter doesn't match up well to a particuliar style, he can lose.

And while Serra was a huge underdog and most people, myself included, didn't think he would win, he is an established fighter as well as a trainer, and is not your typical 'TUF' fighter. I think he was chosen more for his TV friendly personality then because he fit the mold of a fighter desperate for a 2nd chance.

It's not like Dave Jaco Ko'd a prime Holyfield. Anyone who slams the UFC because of this upset is just showing their ignornance.

TFK


I think it's these kind of possibilities that make the sport so much fun to watch. At the top level these are all dangerous guys that can end a fight quickly if their opponent makes a mistake.

Azazel
04-10-2007, 02:40 AM
You're more likely to see upsets in MMA then boxing, because there are so many more ways to lose in MMA. You can get ko's from punches, kicks, elbows, you can get submitted in numerous ways, etc.

In boxing, styles are limited. It's mostly boxer or slugger, or some hybrid in between. In MMA you have countless different styles, and if a fighter doesn't match up well to a particuliar style, he can lose.

And while Serra was a huge underdog and most people, myself included, didn't think he would win, he is an established fighter as well as a trainer, and is not your typical 'TUF' fighter. I think he was chosen more for his TV friendly personality then because he fit the mold of a fighter desperate for a 2nd chance.

It's not like Dave Jaco Ko'd a prime Holyfield. Anyone who slams the UFC because of this upset is just showing their ignornance.

TFK

LOl, You were the one hating on Pride when Sokoudjou ( a fighter with far more potential than Serra ) upset lil Nog

TFK
04-10-2007, 12:24 PM
LOl, You were the one hating on Pride when Sokoudjou ( a fighter with far more potential than Serra ) upset lil Nog

Wrong.

I never 'hate' on Pride, because I like Pride. I was just pointing out that the UFC Haters\Pride Nuthuggers who bash UFC at any opportunity looked pretty dumb when Nog got upset. I was hating the haters you could say.

TFK

Hanzy
04-10-2007, 07:48 PM
Wrong.

I never 'hate' on Pride, because I like Pride. I was just pointing out that the UFC Haters\Pride Nuthuggers who bash UFC at any opportunity looked pretty dumb when Nog got upset. I was hating the haters you could say.

TFK

It's still pretty sad the way GPS lost his title to Serra. I wonder if he'll ever recover from that brutal loss. Afterall, when you take one to the chin and get KO'd, it can make fighters so cautious and possibly even unsure of themselves which diminishes their chances in future fights.
Hopefully the loss hasn't damaged him psychologically too much.

Matchup_Analyzer
04-11-2007, 01:18 AM
I'm not sure how many upsets happen in the UFC, but if the odds are good and if you're a gambling man.....

Alabama_Man
04-11-2007, 02:12 PM
Matt Serra gave BJ Penn all he could handle, I don't understand why everyone had the thought that GSP would steam roll him. Serra and Hughes are two completely different fighters.

ArturoGatti
04-14-2007, 10:50 AM
why u laugh St. Pierre nuthugger??? :nono: :slap:i'm not a gsp nutthugger. :dunno:

Barristan
04-14-2007, 12:25 PM
Why use kicks against a guy whos 4 feet tall. You get off balance and he comes in from underneath. The jab would have served GSP better.

UFC = :shit:

steve_dave
04-14-2007, 02:50 PM
Why use kicks against a guy whos 4 feet tall. You get off balance and he comes in from underneath. The jab would have served GSP better.

UFC = :shit:

That's what makes GSP so much fun to watch... he kicks motherfuckers in the head.

Barristan
04-14-2007, 03:16 PM
That's what makes GSP so much fun to watch... he kicks motherfuckers in the head.
Maybe he should think about softening muthafuckas up before doing his Van Dam kicks.

MAXWELL
04-14-2007, 08:31 PM
Maybe he thought serra would just stand there and eat all his strikes like hughes did.

Gh77
04-16-2007, 01:52 PM
GSP's biggest problem was that he didn't do anything to set-up his kicks. He should have done some jabbing or kicks to the body which would've created a better opportunity to land upstairs. He doesn't kick with same speed as Cro Cop, who can sometimes get away without much of a set-up, but even he needs to a majority of the time. GSP just kept kicking to the head hoping to catch Serra with his guard down. Hanzy is right in worrying about GSP's next fight, I think he might be really gunshy.

TFK
04-16-2007, 02:07 PM
Damn, the GSP Bandwagon is emptying faster then the Arlovski Bandwagon did a year or so ago.

TFK

Dollar-Fifty78
04-16-2007, 05:06 PM
Damn, the GSP Bandwagon is emptying faster then the Arlovski Bandwagon did a year or so ago.

TFK
That's how it goes once a person loses he turns into a bum in the eyes of {forum fighters}. :notallthere:
That was the biggest fluke in UFC history GSP will get the belt back soon enough.

ArturoGatti
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
That's how it goes once a person loses he turns into a bum in the eyes of {forum fighters}. :notallthere:
That was the biggest fluke in UFC history GSP will get the belt back soon enough.:nono:

Or maybe Serra was just the better prepared fighter than GSP, both mentally and physically.

Gh77
04-17-2007, 04:16 PM
Yeah, it looked like GSP was just trying to head kick him and call it a night...

Haymaker
04-17-2007, 04:57 PM
:nono:

Or maybe Serra was just the better prepared fighter than GSP, both mentally and physically.

NO!!!

:doh:

Dollar-Fifty78
04-19-2007, 12:28 PM
:nono:

Or maybe Serra was just the better prepared fighter than GSP, both mentally and physically.
Horse shit:shit: Have you ever seen GSP train? My guess is no, GSP' training is insane so no Matt wasn't better prepared physically than GSP. I like Serra but at the end of the day he got lucky.

ArturoGatti
04-19-2007, 06:43 PM
Horse shit:shit: Have you ever seen GSP train? My guess is no, GSP' training is insane so no Matt wasn't better prepared physically than GSP. I like Serra but at the end of the day he got lucky.Have you ever seen Matt Serra train? My guess is no.

Dollar-Fifty78
04-19-2007, 09:12 PM
Have you ever seen Matt Serra train? My guess is no.
Sure I have a number of times.

ArturoGatti
04-20-2007, 12:04 AM
Sure I have a number of times.My guess is no.

Free Ike
04-20-2007, 12:35 AM
I knew this would happen. I told everybody I was watching the fight with "fuck the Corrales fight, Matt Serra is going to ktfo GSP." Everyone laughed and called me names, like fudgeface, they never let poor ikdolph join in any reindeer games.........anyway, I told everyone who could listen GSP is going down !! Ask anyone!!







































































































































(this claim is not in anyway accurate and Dr. Ikemefula Strangelove neither confirms or denies the authanticity of the aforementioned statemeny. If I did, I would spell authanticity correctly.)

ArturoGatti
04-22-2007, 05:34 PM
it's obviously bullshit because Matt Serra is from New York.

Hanzy
04-23-2007, 12:07 AM
Sure I have a number of times.

Serra runs his own Jiu Jitsu school.

winner by choke
05-07-2007, 01:12 AM
Serra runs his own Jiu Jitsu school.

You must mean jujitsu??:lol:

And a guy from Matt Serra's school used to train here with me in San Diego...Matt and his brother Nick run their jiu jitsu school, and Renzo shows up to help out from time to time...would love to train with Matt if I was ever in NY, but i get the feeling he isnt doing that much instructing anymore.