Final Prediction: "The Golden Boy" Oscar De La Hoya vs. "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather

[ILLUMINATI]

I had a dream i was checking Boxrec.com...under DLH record and for the Mayweather fight it READ....W TKO/KO 3..and this was after watching how slooowww DLH looked compare to Mayweather in the fight Mayorga...my mind tell me Mayweather easy...9-3...my heart tell me dlh could/will land something big on pretty boy and he won't recover..



so that will be my prediction....OSCAR DE LA HOYA by TKO 3


:eek:

[IgiveUpImEricMoralesISuck]

Oscars not that slow, even on the little of training we saw. We saw Oscar is pretty fast

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscars not that slow, even on the little of training we saw. We saw Oscar is pretty fast

He look very slow in the Mayorga fight...compare to Mayweather fights vs. Bumdomir and Judah...

[Trplsec]

My position has also changed after watching the replay of the Mayorga bout..

Unfortunately Oscar gets taken to school and loses a lopsided 12 round decision.

Man I hope Oscar has more left than I think, but I just can't see him touching Mayweather consistently enough to do any serious damage.

[ILLUMINATI]

My position has also changed after watching the replay of the Mayorga bout..

Unfortunately Oscar gets taken to school and loses a lopsided 12 round decision.

Man I hope Oscar has more left than I think, but I just can't see him touching Mayweather consistently enough to do any serious damage.

Against Mayorga he seem to be thinking to much, and as the rounds went by the punches got slower and the combination he finish Mayorga with was nothing special...arm punches..

[Rubio MHS]

Mayweather by decision. Oscar's too proud to quit.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Oscar TKO 11

[Orthodox Crusader]

Oscar TKO 11


In a fight that means fuck all cos Oscars not a fighter anymore: Oscar KO 11:warning:

[mexican wedding shirt]

True enough. He'll still cain mayweather :cool:

If Floyd cried after an easy win against Gatti, I wonder what his reaction is going to be after getting stopped by Oscar.

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

Oscar de la Hoya MD.

[Orthodox Crusader]

True enough. He'll still cain mayweather :cool:


But there are those who say he won't be Abel.

[slystaff]

I have somewhat of a gut/logic conflict as well...

Logic dictates to me that Floyd will have no trouble in hitting Oscar (even Gatti managed to hit Oscar frequently) and would give De La Hoya HELL in terms of getting hit in return. Oscar's favourite and only dangerous punch is the left hook...and it's virtually impossible to land a flush left hook on Floyd.

De la Hoya is an orthodox fighter who stands 5'11", has fast hands...but not fast reflexes or legs anymore and has the tendency to slow down in the last half of the fight.

A prime version of this same De La Hoya and a very hard time with a slightly post prime Pernell Whitaker and in the view of many...lost that fight.

Pernell, at 147, at that stage...was no more elusive than Floyd, no faster, no bigger, shorter, less reach, less power. Oscar at that stage was faster, fitter, hungrier than he is now.

So logically, Floyd should beat Oscar on the outside and on the inside and win a clear unanimous decision.

Gut, however, says that Oscar's combination of jab, reach, height and power will give Floyd fits and cause Floyd to lose a decision (or possibly a TKO if Oscar manages to land the left hook FLUSH).


BUT...

I have learned from experience that LOGIC tends to win over GUT, at least in my case and so I'll stick with logic and predict a Floyd decision by scores of 116-112.

The Sly One has Spoken!! :warning:

[Orthodox Crusader]

The Sly One has Spoken!!


DO YOU DARE TO DISAGREE??

:doh: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[mexican wedding shirt]

But there are those who say he won't be Abel.

:lol:

[Hanzy]

I have somewhat of a gut/logic conflict as well...

Logic dictates to me that Floyd will have no trouble in hitting Oscar (even Gatti managed to hit Oscar frequently) and would give De La Hoya HELL in terms of getting hit in return. Oscar's favourite and only dangerous punch is the left hook...and it's virtually impossible to land a flush left hook on Floyd.

De la Hoya is an orthodox fighter who stands 5'11", has fast hands...but not fast reflexes or legs anymore and has the tendency to slow down in the last half of the fight.

A prime version of this same De La Hoya and a very hard time with a slightly post prime Pernell Whitaker and in the view of many...lost that fight.

Pernell, at 147, at that stage...was no more elusive than Floyd, no faster, no bigger, shorter, less reach, less power. Oscar at that stage was faster, fitter, hungrier than he is now.

So logically, Floyd should beat Oscar on the outside and on the inside and win a clear unanimous decision.

Gut, however, says that Oscar's combination of jab, reach, height and power will give Floyd fits and cause Floyd to lose a decision (or possibly a TKO if Oscar manages to land the left hook FLUSH).


BUT...

I have learned from experience that LOGIC tends to win over GUT, at least in my case and so I'll stick with logic and predict a Floyd decision by scores of 116-112.

The Sly One has Spoken!! :warning:

And alot of the time, GUT can win over LOGIC. It's happened many times. It can happen on May 5.:cool:

[Octopus]

Floyd is gonna beat Oscar about as bad,if not worse than Calzaghe beat Lacy:doh:

This fight will be so one sided,it will be putting people to sleep by the 6th:old:

[boxingnotboxers]

This is a fight that everyone loses.

Mayweather will win a clear decision, and still lose fans because he's a dick.

De La Hoya will lose the fight itself.

The fans will lose because this fight will be boring.

I'll end up losing sleep because I'll stay up to watch it on a long boring PPV.

My wife will lose her sanity trying to figure out why I said this fight was such a big deal in the first place.

And most importantly, I'll lose most of my pessimism about boxing if I'm wrong in the first place :lol:

[Xplosive]

OH THANK JESUS! When they asked Max his assessment for the fight, I was scared to death he was gonna pick Floyd. That would ruin EVERYTHING! But thank god he didnt give an actual prediction.

[Octopus]

This is a fight that everyone loses.

Mayweather will win a clear decision, and still lose fans because he's a dick.

De La Hoya will lose the fight itself.

The fans will lose because this fight will be boring.

I'll end up losing sleep because I'll stay up to watch it on a long boring PPV.

My wife will lose her sanity trying to figure out why I said this fight was such a big deal in the first place.

And most importantly, I'll lose most of my pessimism about boxing if I'm wrong in the first place :lol:


Seriously,the more closer this fight comes,the more I'm starting to debate if I'm even gonna still buy this with each passing day:eek:

That's how much faith I have in this entire fightcard being a bust!! Or should I say "Lemon":kick:

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 4
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD





Floyd Mayweather: 5
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD

[KaukipRrr]

There's no reason Oscar shouldn't throw his left hook, there's also no reason for a suspiciously low output, significantly lower than it was against Mayorga, why?....because Fraud can't punch ofcourse, and Oscar won't be under pressure, there is no logical reason for him to be tense, especially in respect to the physical monsters he's been in the ring with, in this fight he's going forwards at all times.

If there is an absence of left hooks, and a below average work rate, then Fraud signs with Golden Boy Promotions soon afterwards the following week or month, it is the main 3 capitalist fundamentals that shall be linked to a possible fucking fix, and I, plus a few others, warned of the 'no lose' arrangement between Oscar, Fraud and HBO a long time ago. :nono:

If by the odd chance it is for real,...Fraud has nothing to keep Oscar off of him, I think 'Cotto-Malignaggi', only less competitive,...it's not as if Oscar isn't accurate, Fraud WILL get hit, and if the referee points out Fraud's elbows, forearms, palming and turning his back early in the fight,...it won't go 6 rounds..

[dsimon3387]

dsimon writes:

I feel a bit like Sly but my logic and gut are united on this one.

I think Oscar has one very big atribute that showed against Vargas. he can show up big for a big fight. He has had plenty and up until he didn't care whether Hopkins had his way with him or not, I think he always rose to the occasion.

But you can't predict a fight based on this intangable and Floyd has everything else. Usually in boxing the other things are huge... things like punches, speed and technique. I predict Muse will be elated... sort of... Oscar wil charge often the first part of the fight and Floyd will Baldimore him about. Oscar stays on his feet and the pretty one wins a unanimous decision. The verdict will ring hollow, like the inevitable ending of SArtre's no exit... Everybody will be a victim...Floyd will get called on his end run and Oscar will be praised for probably doing less than Baldimore did. And tomorrow on fightbeat life will resume normally as people claim the that spaz Judah is a dangerous puncher.

Floyd UD in a stinker for the ages.

[Tyler Durden]

Oscar de la Hoya MD.

:clap: I can see this bullshit happening too. All this hype and advertising for DLH/Mayweather 2 :doh:

[Mean Mr Mustard]

This will have all the excitement and drama of De La Hoya - Trinidad build-up, but that's all.

[Rubio MHS]

I watched Mosley-De la Hoya I with a few friends. We all agreed that Mosley clearly won the fight. I said, "I'll bet anyone here $____ that it's a split decision." Someone took it. Then I said, "I'll bet anyone here $____ that De la Hoya won't complain about the decision." Someone took it.

[KaukipRrr]

Floyd is gonna beat Oscar about as bad,if not worse than Calzaghe beat Lacy:doh:

:eeeek: WTF ,...please...:nono:

[Tyler Durden]

There's no reason Oscar shouldn't throw his left hook, there's also no reason for a suspiciously low output, significantly lower than it was against Mayorga, why?....because Fraud can't punch ofcourse, and Oscar won't be under pressure, there is no logical reason for him to be tense, especially in respect to the physical monsters he's been in the ring with, in this fight he's going forwards at all times.

If there is an absence of left hooks, and a below average work rate, then Fraud signs with Golden Boy Promotions soon afterwards the following week or month, it is the main 3 capitalist fundamentals that shall be linked to a possible fucking fix, and I, plus a few others, warned of the 'no lose' arrangement between Oscar, Fraud and HBO a long time ago. :nono:

If by the odd chance it is for real,...Fraud has nothing to keep Oscar off of him, I think 'Cotto-Malignaggi', only less competitive,...it's not as if Oscar isn't accurate, Fraud WILL get hit, and if the referee points out Fraud's elbows, forearms, palming and turning his back early in the fight,...it won't go 6 rounds..

Good analysis, I am leary of this whole thing too. That's why I am not betting more than 50 on this fight. I think DLH will be more agressive if the fight is real because pitta pat isn't going to break an egg. Also I am worried about how that Hopkins fight turned out and if it was just a fluke or some consipiracy:dunno: Then there was the decision where Oscar got robbed with Mosley. Boxing is too crooked and strange things have happened with Oscar. I just hope it isn't a punch and run fest where Floyd wins by bitch decision...I would rather see a draw than that...

[IgiveUpImEricMoralesISuck]

Floyd is gonna beat Oscar about as bad,if not worse than Calzaghe beat Lacy:doh:

you smell like :shit:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

:cheer: Floyd UD :tease:

[TKO]

:cheer: Floyd UD :tease:

Oscar TKO 6

:blobbox:

[PetreTG]

You defeat speed with a great jab. DLH has that jab.

When he touches Floyd , Floyd is going to feel power he's never felt before and dance the night away. As a result DLH will win with a jab and a smattering of power punches per round when the opportunity presents itself, in what will look like BOXING 101.

If Floyd finds the cajones to go toe to toe with Oscar it will be a much better fight , but Oscar will still make him pay too heavy a price and you'll see another Castillo like fight for Floyd , only this time Floyd doesn't get the decision and the fight will be much worse for Floyd.

The only real question is Oscar's stamina ... but I think he's coming in VERY motivated and is coming in ready for a 12 round war.

You could see it last night in his face , the same solemn attitude and demeanor he had for Mayorga and for Vargas.

Oscar is too big , too strong and too skilled for Floyd to do his usual ring dance.

Oscar by decision or late stoppage.

[dsimon3387]

Good analysis, I am leary of this whole thing too. That's why I am not betting more than 50 on this fight. I think DLH will be more agressive if the fight is real because pitta pat isn't going to break an egg. Also I am worried about how that Hopkins fight turned out and if it was just a fluke or some consipiracy:dunno: Then there was the decision where Oscar got robbed with Mosley. Boxing is too crooked and strange things have happened with Oscar. I just hope it isn't a punch and run fest where Floyd wins by bitch decision...I would rather see a draw than that...

dsimon writes:

Count me in with you and rippa on this angle.... I definitely could see it. I don't know if it is explicit (and it very well could be!) but I think that if you read all the signs you will see that Mayweather and De La Hoya both want to save face for this fight. Whether it is an all out conspiracy to get floyd in with golden boy or not (and it might very well be) I think everything about this fight suggests that the guys have made an arraingement of sorts.

If you and rippa do a bandwagen let me know cause i am on it. Look at the Hopkins fight as an example.

[Free Ike]

I am done with upsets. Floyd UD in a CLOSE fight.

[jaws1216]

Floyd UD in a 8-4, 9-3 type of fight

[whiskey]

I've been favoring Mayweather by UD since the fight was announced. I'm not sure what changed my mind but i'm going to take Oscar by decision.

[Alabama_Man]

Dela Hoya was tired in the Vargas fight. He just inflicted too much damage on Vargas for it to make any difference. I doubt he'll be able to damage Floyd in this way.

[D MAN]

I watched Mosley-De la Hoya I with a few friends. We all agreed that Mosley clearly won the fight. I said, "I'll bet anyone here $____ that it's a split decision." Someone took it. Then I said, "I'll bet anyone here $____ that De la Hoya won't complain about the decision." Someone took it.

Cute story :cheer: , complete bullshit

[D MAN]

DLH wins mid-way through the 3rd round, he lands a mean uppercut on Floyd against the ropes, follows it up with a left hook to the head, then lands an overhand right to Floyds motionless body laying on the canvas. Ref doesn't finish the count.

DLH KO 3

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 9
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by KO 6
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3

Floyd Mayweather: 9
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD

[Free Ike]

Oscar De La Hoya: 9
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by KO 6
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3

Floyd Mayweather: 9
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
Close UD. CLOSE UD.

[REEDsART]

Floyd by UD...

DeLa's ONLY Chance is a KO...To DO that,DeLa has to Go for BROKE...

REED Intially Thought DeLa should MAKE Floyd Lead,then Counter...But Floyd is Toooooooooo SMART for that...If NEITHER Guy is Punching & the Crowd is BOOing like Crazy,that'll Affect DeLa MORE than it Will Floyd...

DeLa has ALWAYS Been More Cognizant of his Perception & Image than Floyd...Floyd COULDN'T Care Less if he's Getting BOOed for Being "Boring"...A Win is A WIN to Him...

DeLa WILL B the Aggressor,but How Looooooooong will his Historically POOR Stamina ALLOW him to Force the Issue???:dunno: ...Also,DeLa's ALWAYS Struggled w/SPEED Fighters &/or DEFENSIVE Minded Fighters...NOW he's Fighting a Combination of BOTH...

DESPITE the Shit Talk,Floyd NEVER Gets STUPID N the Ring...He'll SAY,"Toe to Toe,this & that",but Floyd WILL Fight N a DISCIPLINED Manner...

DeLa's ONLY Chance is to B AGGRESSIVE & Catch Floyd while he's being STUPID....It COULD Happen,just Don't BET on it...



REED:cool:

[REEDsART]

My position has also changed after watching the replay of the Mayorga bout..

Unfortunately Oscar gets taken to school and loses a lopsided 12 round decision.

Man I hope Oscar has more left than I think, but I just can't see him touching Mayweather consistently enough to do any serious damage.Yep...


REED:cool:

[REEDsART]

True enough. He'll still cain mayweather :cool:

If Floyd cried after an easy win against Gatti, I wonder what his reaction is going to be after getting stopped by Oscar.If/when he BEATS DeLa,Floyd just Might MASTURBATE N the Ring...


REED:laughing:

[3OG]

ODLH drops Floyd Jr. in 7 or 8th; PBF gets up to lose 12UD. Floyd Jr. is just not offensive enough to beat Oscar. This fight is Floyd Mayweather Sr. Vs. Ray Leonard all over again. Same styles same fight!!! :popcorn:

[REEDsART]

ODLH drops Floyd Jr. in 7 or 8th; PBF gets up to lose 12UD. Floyd Jr. is just not offensive enough to beat Oscar. This fight is Floyd Mayweather Sr. Vs. Ray Leonard all over again. Same styles same fight!!! :popcorn: But Floyd Jr. is BETTER than his Father & DeLa is WORSE than Sugar Ray...


REED:dunno:

[Free Ike]

I cannot remember a time where two fights have baffed me like Freitas/Diaz and Floyd/Oscar.

I think Floyd is a better fighter, but he is fighting:
1.Way above where he ought
2.A better fighter(even if past it) than Floyd has ever fought.

Oscar always was troubled by hand and foot speed and Floyd has that. However, Oscar will be facing a weaker man for the first time in years. He hasn't been the stronger guy since 140, I mean 10 years about. I guess Pea might have been weaker, but all analysis goes out the door with a dude who had no shame or honor and was willing to stink and survive so his idiot fans could argue he won when he clearly did not. I think the only take I disagree with is Floyd easily. It will be close. Oscar won't have an easy time and I hope he has plans A thrugh Z ready to go.

[steve_dave]

Floyd UD. Most will have it between 7-5 and 9-3 Mayweather. It'll probably be 3-3 after 6.

[slystaff]

Floyd UD. Most will have it between 7-5 and 9-3 Mayweather. It'll probably be 3-3 after 6.

Precisely!

I see it being even after 6 also and then Floyd stretching away down the stretch with possibly Oscar having one big final round...but too little too late.

[puerto rock]

This is almost a mismatch. I cannot see Oscar being that competitive as some of you are saying, much less see him winning. Oscar will get out speeded by the younger and faster Mayweather. Floyd will land counter right hands over Oscar's jab all night long. Oscar will land glancing blows here and there but he won't land anything damaging enough to put Floyd down.


Mayweather via one sided UD.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Bedwetter won't win

I don't think he will be as fast as he was, this is his first fight at 154 and it's against DLH, not a good idea IMO.

DLH by stoppage in 9 rounds or DLH UD

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 11
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by KO 6
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9



Floyd Mayweather: 12
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by close UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD

[Matchup_Analyzer]

I didn't pick a KO, get it right :tease:

[slystaff]

And alot of the time, GUT can win over LOGIC. It's happened many times. It can happen on May 5.:cool:

Nah...I'm compelled to stick with logic this time.

My GUT had told me that Gatti would make a fight of it with Floyd, and my prediction was that Floyd would struggle a bit at first and then come back and dominate Arturo (kinda like the Judah fight)...so that was my erroneous prediction. My LOGIC had told me from the getgo that it would be an utter mismatch!!

So this time I'm sticking with logic.

Oscar is too easy to hit (limited sluggers like Gatti and Mayorga hit him fairly often), has a tendency to slow down in the latter stages, doesn't tend to "fight tall"...so his height advantage may be largely irrelevant...his best punch (left hook) is nullified by Floyd's style of defense, floyd is better defensively, smarter, better mover, better reflexes, more adaptable....and Floyd is hungrier for this fight than Oscar is (better believe it).

Gotta go with logic. Floyd ends Oscar's career and Double L, will be wearing my signature for a month! :cool:

[60/40]

You defeat speed with a great jab. DLH has that jab.

When he touches Floyd , Floyd is going to feel power he's never felt before and dance the night away. As a result DLH will win with a jab and a smattering of power punches per round when the opportunity presents itself, in what will look like BOXING 101.

If Floyd finds the cajones to go toe to toe with Oscar it will be a much better fight , but Oscar will still make him pay too heavy a price and you'll see another Castillo like fight for Floyd , only this time Floyd doesn't get the decision and the fight will be much worse for Floyd.

The only real question is Oscar's stamina ... but I think he's coming in VERY motivated and is coming in ready for a 12 round war.

You could see it last night in his face , the same solemn attitude and demeanor he had for Mayorga and for Vargas.

Oscar is too big , too strong and too skilled for Floyd to do his usual ring dance.

Oscar by decision or late stoppage.
Agreed, but I will go with Oscar KO 5

[Hanzy]

Nah...I'm compelled to stick with logic this time.

My GUT had told me that Gatti would make a fight of it with Floyd, and my prediction was that Floyd would struggle a bit at first and then come back and dominate Arturo (kinda like the Judah fight)...so that was my erroneous prediction. My LOGIC had told me from the getgo that it would be an utter mismatch!!

So this time I'm sticking with logic.

Oscar is too easy to hit (limited sluggers like Gatti and Mayorga hit him fairly often), has a tendency to slow down in the latter stages, doesn't tend to "fight tall"...so his height advantage may be largely irrelevant...his best punch (left hook) is nullified by Floyd's style of defense, floyd is better defensively, smarter, better mover, better reflexes, more adaptable....and Floyd is hungrier for this fight than Oscar is (better believe it).

Gotta go with logic. Floyd ends Oscar's career and Double L, will be wearing my signature for a month! :cool:

Floyd was hungry to make a statement against Baldomir. Making predictions of scoring brutal KOs leading up to that fight. Then he hits and runs for his life for 12 rounds. He'll not want to invade Oscar's punching zone at anytime. He'll play it safe. The hell with all the fight hype. He's not going to suddenly become a blood thirsty ring warrior and show us something different. If he wins, it'll be a lackluster 'play it safe' type win.

[ArturoGatti]

odlh TKO 10.

[slystaff]

Floyd was hungry to make a statement against Baldomir. Making predictions of scoring brutal KOs leading up to that fight. Then he hits and runs for his life for 12 rounds. He'll not want to invade Oscar's punching zone at anytime. He'll play it safe. The hell with all the fight hype. He's not going to suddenly become a blood thirsty ring warrior and show us something different. If he wins, it'll be a lackluster 'play it safe' type win.

You will be surprised! :cool:

Floyd will fight in a way that no one expects, least of all Oscar and actually have Oscar in trouble late in the fight.

Remember these words.

Floyd will start out boxing as usual, but he'll be agressive and after a few rounds he'll be taking it to Oscar and by the late rounds, Oscar will be dazed, confused and happy to see the final bell.

[Tyler Durden]

delete

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

The pickings for this fight reminds me of Jones-Ruiz where everybody picked 1 guy to win a decision and the other guy to win by KO.

[slystaff]

The pickings for this fight reminds me of Jones-Ruiz where everybody picked 1 guy to win a decision and the other guy to win by KO.

mayweather-Corrales was the same also...except a GENIUS called...what was his name...oh yes...slystaff predicted a stoppage win for Mayweather!! :cool:

[Hanzy]

mayweather-Corrales was the same also...except a GENIUS called...what was his name...oh yes...slystaff predicted a stoppage win for Mayweather!! :cool:

Is Mayweather a wannabe-thug in your mind staff? Or is he genuine? Watching that 24/7 show makes it seem like he's trying to be something that he's not.
It's like when the camera suddenly turns on, he transforms from a quiet dude with a smile to some character out of Boyz N The Hood.:dunno:

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Him and 50 cent are the same

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

uIs Mayweather a wannabe-thug in your mind staff? Or is he genuine? Watching that 24/7 show makes it seem like he's trying to be something that he's not.
It's like when the camera suddenly turns on, he transforms from a quiet dude with a smile to some character out of Boyz N The Hood.:dunno:
Its pretty obvious that he just try's to sell tickets. Every guy hes fought that hes trashed he has praised after the fight.

[Hanzy]

The pickings for this fight reminds me of Jones-Ruiz where everybody picked 1 guy to win a decision and the other guy to win by KO.

Jones in that form could've beaten some good heavyweights. I think he could've taken that IBF belt from Byrd at the time. That's what he should've done instead of dropping back down to fight Tarver.

[slystaff]

Is Mayweather a wannabe-thug in your mind staff? Or is he genuine? Watching that 24/7 show makes it seem like he's trying to be something that he's not.
It's like when the camera suddenly turns on, he transforms from a quiet dude with a smile to some character out of Boyz N The Hood.:dunno:

Yes, he wants to be noticed and disliked...so that he can make more money.

Hatred sells....just ask a young Cassius Clay.

Floyd is actually a nice guy, evidenced by his post fight respectful comments and apologies about his opponents.

He wants people to hate him pre-fight as this motivates him to work hard, KNOWING he has to deliver. PLUS, of course, he wants the backing of the urban culture...

[Hanzy]

Yes, he wants to be noticed and disliked...so that he can make more money.

Hatred sells....just ask a young Cassius Clay.

Floyd is actually a nice guy, evidenced by his post fight respectful comments and apologies about his opponents.

He wants people to hate him pre-fight as this motivates him to work hard, KNOWING he has to deliver. PLUS, of course, he wants the backing of the urban culture...

fair enough. So what are your plans next saturday? You catching it at a local bar, ordering the fight, going to a friend's? I think I can hop on over to Uncle Jasvinder's place and see it live.:cool:

[slystaff]

fair enough. So what are your plans next saturday? You catching it at a local bar, ordering the fight, going to a friend's? I think I can hop on over to Uncle Jasvinder's place and see it live.:cool:

"Uncle Jasvinder's"... hehe

I'm efforting that as we speak. I'm leaning towards the local bar that I usually go to for big fights, but my cousin may be ordering the PPV and if so, I may...go down there..

[Erratic]

Here's my quasi-analysis.

Keys to Victory for Oscar:

Intelligent Use of the Jab: As we all know, Floyd is excellent at countering jabs with his straight right hand, the "pull-counter". Guys can get more tenative when they're getting countered. On the other hand, Oscar has a terrific jab, better than any jab PBF has encountered as a pro, and as the saying goes, "a jab/good timing can neutralize speed". We saw it with Vernon Forrest against Shane Mosley, and to a lesser extent, Oscar in the rematch versus Mosley. De La Hoya can be very effective with the jab and knowing when to use it can be key. Once Floyd gets his rhythm going, he's extremely hard to stop.

The Left Hook: A no-brainer. Oscar's left hook is top-notch. Floyd, being the shorter guy, may have to reach in. He likes to leap in with the straight right hand. The darting in and out can be dangerous. For all of Floyd's technical brilliance, he does get away with things that others cannot because of his speed. He doesn't tuck his chin in when he punches, like Bernard Hopkins often does. He can leave his chin exposed, especially when he darts in and out with the straight right and Oscar can counter it. Oscar has to get the timing down on Mayweather's quick movements.

Body Attack: As Gil Clancy says, "the head may move but the body doesn't". Jose Luis Castillo had a tough time landing to Floyd's face, but an easier time to the body. This slows guys down and makes it harder to use your legs. Also, landing a well-placed shot on the hip or a low blow won't hurt. Oscar has always been an excellent body puncher.

Keys to Victory for Mayweather:

The Straight Right Hand: Yes, the same punch that can be very dangerous for Mayweather can also be the key punch in victory. Floyd has to know when to use it. Out of all the punches, the straight right hand is the one that Oscar is perhaps the most susecptible to. It was the key punch in Mosley's victory over Oscar in their first fight. B-Hop used it well too in his win over Oscar. Even Derrell Coley was able to stun Oscar with the straight right, if memory serves me correct.

Body Attack: Oscar's body punch defeat from Bernard Hopkins was not the only time Oscar's vulnerability to a body attack has cost him. He was hurt in both fights against Mosley from the body attack, which leads to the next category.

Get the Fight into the Late Rounds: Obviously it is no certainty that Oscar will fatigue and fade in the late going (Quartey, Vargas). But chances are, it favors Floyd in the late rounds than Oscar. When have you seen Mayweather fatigued in the late going? On the other hand, Oscar gave a couple of late rounds (10 and 11) away against M.A. Gonzalez, which was probably due to fatigue. Oscar also ran the last 3 rounds against Trinidad when he was tired, saying later than his legs were shaking and the fatigue affected his thought process. He faded in the late rounds against Mosley, both times, due to a wilting body attack. His heart allowed him to still throw leather in the late rounds, as it did also against Sturm, but getting outlanded is getting outlanded. Oscar also being a rather tense fighter seems to come to play as well.

The Jab: Mayweather is sometimes criticized for under utilizing his jab, but he does have an effective, educated jab. Watch his fights with Corrales and Sosa for instance. The jab can offset Oscar's rhythm and set up other shots for Mayweather. That's what a jab is for.

Of course some of these are somewhat obvious, but what else can I say? Boxing can be both complex and simple. Use your jab well and the other guy most likely will have problems. The question is which one of these guys will do a better job of using these tools better. I say the younger, fresher, smarter Floyd is.

Floyd UD. 8-4, 9-3, 6-5-1 (this is Vegas after all)

[Rubio MHS]

Him and 50 cent are the sameWhether you like Mayweather or not, he's legit. 50 Cent isn't.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Whether you like Mayweather or not, he's legit. 50 Cent isn't.

Every good fighter/rapper is legit until they get exposed or give up a blueprint

[dymipepel]

Official pick: Floyd UD
Unofficial pick: Oscar KO
Moral support pick: 60% Oscar, 40% Floyd.

[Rubio MHS]

Official pick: Floyd UD
Unofficial pick: Oscar KO
Moral support pick: 60% Oscar, 40% Floyd.Nice pick, Double L.

[uppercutz1]

Despite the fact that Oscar hammered Floyd with the contract (weight, gloves, ring size, etc), I find it hard to believe a guy who trains hard for 10 weeks of the year will beat someone who stays in supreme condition year round.

I think this fight is all hype, and unfortunately it may disappoint as Oscar will look old and slow.


This is a super event...not a superfight.

[Rubio MHS]

Despite the fact that Oscar hammered Floyd with the contract (weight, gloves, ring size, etc), I find it hard to believe a guy who trains hard for 10 weeks of the year will beat someone who stays in supreme condition year round.

I think this fight is all hype, and unfortunately it may disappoint as Oscar will look old and slow.


This is a super event...not a superfight.New poster of the week.

You have to admit, on another subject, both men came up from tough backgrounds. Oscar came up through the barrios, and while Floyd came up in a prestigious boxing family, his father - until being able to cash in on his son's popularity - was a drug dealer. You have to appreciate that both men came from humble beginnings to become rich, successful men.

[Orthodox Crusader]

Despite the fact that Oscar hammered Floyd with the contract (weight, gloves, ring size, etc), I find it hard to believe a guy who trains hard for 10 weeks of the year will beat someone who stays in supreme condition year round.

I think this fight is all hype, and unfortunately it may disappoint as Oscar will look old and slow.


This is a super event...not a superfight.


Yes...but Oscar has the power and Flid has that Mayweather jaw. You can never put muscles on a jaw. Excellent post too.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

New poster of the week.

You have to admit, on another subject, both men came up from tough backgrounds. Oscar came up through the barrios, and while Floyd came up in a prestigious boxing family, his father - until being able to cash in on his son's popularity - was a drug dealer. You have to appreciate that both men came from humble beginnings to become rich, successful men.

Those silk pajamas ruin a fighter in the end

[Orthodox Crusader]

New poster of the week.

You have to admit, on another subject, both men came up from tough backgrounds. Oscar came up through the barrios, and while Floyd came up in a prestigious boxing family, his father - until being able to cash in on his son's popularity - was a drug dealer. You have to appreciate that both men came from humble beginnings to become rich, successful men.


Don't forget that, somewhere along the line, Floyd was a slave. Other than that excellent chronology.

[Free Ike]

Don't forget that, somewhere along the line, Floyd was a slave. Other than that excellent chronology.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: My god, you are like the Irish equivalent of Jessie/Al. You make White racism where there shouldn't be.


Oscar at least had a real family. His dad is a prick, but at least he a family. The Mayweathers are trash, human garbage. It has nothing to do with race. The Mayweathers are a athletically gifted criminal enterprise. They should name prisons after them.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Great.

Bedwetter State Prison

Has a good ring to it

[Orthodox Crusader]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: My god, you are like the Irish equivalent of Jessie/Al. You make White racism where there shouldn't be.


Oscar at least had a real family. His dad is a prick, but at least he a family. The Mayweathers are trash, human garbage. It has nothing to do with race. The Mayweathers are a athletically gifted criminal enterprise. They should name prisons after them.

Hey Floyd said it not me!!!!! Some Italian-American down in Kentucky ownded him and Floyd got sick of the $3m pay-days, flung his ass in the Ohio river and made it to Grand Rapids. Fact.

As for the "athletically gifted criminal enterprise"...is that like breaking and entering, and window prising, all in the same thing?? They just call it enter-prising.?? Aiight??

[uppercutz1]

Yes...but Oscar has the power and Flid has that Mayweather jaw. You can never put muscles on a jaw. Excellent post too.


I just keep picturing how a young Oscar had immense trouble with a speedy Shane and slick Pernell....he's much older now and facing the same two problems rolled into one (Floyd).

I just hope Oscar's in supreme shape (to keep the heat on) because I don't think Floyd will stay in the pocket.

[Orthodox Crusader]

I just keep picturing how a young Oscar had immense trouble with a speedy Shane and slick Pernell....he's much older now and facing the same two problems rolled into one (Floyd).

Will Oscar be in good enough shape to keep the heat on?


1. Pernell is an all time great and would whip the tar out of Floyd. I wouldn't even pick Floyd to beat a prime Hector Camacho, not going by his fight with Judah anyways.

2. Pernell was a SP that had good experience against bigger men. Pernell, if I remember correctly, started out at lightweight. He wasn't big but he started higher than Floyd.

3. Oscar had been doing a bit of moving up himself when he met Pernell. Compare that to how settled Oscar is at 154 now, and how new Floyd will be to that weight.

4. Mosley is bigger than Floyd.

5. A lot of people feel Oscar beat Mosley in their re.

[LATIN KING]

Is Mayweather a wannabe-thug in your mind staff? Or is he genuine? Watching that 24/7 show makes it seem like he's trying to be something that he's not.
It's like when the camera suddenly turns on, he transforms from a quiet dude with a smile to some character out of Boyz N The Hood.:dunno:I agree! which is funny to me when people label Oscar fake but Floyd "keeps it real" :laughing: he is also fake he just doesn't hide it well.

I think he should beat Oscar soundly but of course when he does Oscar will no longer be an overrated fake fighter he will be a legend that Floyd just beat. :laughing:

[Rubio MHS]

Floyd Mayweather is an all-time-great.

[uppercutz1]

1. Pernell is an all time great and would whip the tar out of Floyd. I wouldn't even pick Floyd to beat a prime Hector Camacho, not going by his fight with Judah anyways.

2. Pernell was a SP that had good experience against bigger men. Pernell, if I remember correctly, started out at lightweight. He wasn't big but he started higher than Floyd.

3. Oscar had been doing a bit of moving up himself when he met Pernell. Compare that to how settled Oscar is at 154 now, and how new Floyd will be to that weight.

4. Mosley is bigger than Floyd.

5. A lot of people feel Oscar beat Mosley in their re.


Pernell is a legend but I don't think he'd "whip" Floyd between 130-154.

Yes, Oscar is settled at 154 but he's no longer a supremely conditioned fighter....Floyd will make him move and work all night.

I believe Oscar beat Shane as well in their rematch, but both fighters were far removed from their physical prime (1st match). Also, let's not forget that Shane's defensive prowess paled in comparison to Floyd's.

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 13
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by KO 6
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10





Floyd Mayweather: 14
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by close UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD

[LATIN KING]

Mayweather by UD!

[KaukipRrr]

Oscar De La Hoya: 13
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by KO 6
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10





Floyd Mayweather: 14
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by close UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by [SIZE=1]easy[/SI
ZE] UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD

:nono: I said - De La Hoya TKO 10!!, cause I don't believe the referee is gunna call Fraud on his felonies, I really dont,....if he does 'KO 6',..but he won't, so TKO 10 you compartmentalizing dollop.

[Tyler Durden]

Is Mayweather a wannabe-thug in your mind staff? Or is he genuine? Watching that 24/7 show makes it seem like he's trying to be something that he's not.
It's like when the camera suddenly turns on, he transforms from a quiet dude with a smile to some character out of Boyz N The Hood.:dunno:

He's an insecure queer. His antics are well documented out in public at clubs and gainst his wife in the house. I'd say he is hamming it up a little, but not much.

[ILLUMINATI]

There's no reason Oscar shouldn't throw his left hook, there's also no reason for a suspiciously low output, significantly lower than it was against Mayorga, why?....because Fraud can't punch ofcourse, and Oscar won't be under pressure, there is no logical reason for him to be tense, especially in respect to the physical monsters he's been in the ring with, in this fight he's going forwards at all times.

If there is an absence of left hooks, and a below average work rate, then Fraud signs with Golden Boy Promotions soon afterwards the following week or month, it is the main 3 capitalist fundamentals that shall be linked to a possible fucking fix, and I, plus a few others, warned of the 'no lose' arrangement between Oscar, Fraud and HBO a long time ago. :nono:

If by the odd chance it is for real,...Fraud has nothing to keep Oscar off of him, I think 'Cotto-Malignaggi', only less competitive,...it's not as if Oscar isn't accurate, Fraud WILL get hit, and if the referee points out Fraud's elbows, forearms, palming and turning his back early in the fight,...it won't go 6 rounds..

Look sand monkey it doesn't say anything there about DLH in 10...:notallthere:

[D MAN]

I've only picked against Floyd 3 times, this fight, Castillo (first match) and Judah. I was pretty close on the first two times.. and they say 3rd time is the charm.+

[uppercutz1]

I wonder if Floyd would've agreed to fight Hopkins at 154, which may not have been a stretch when Hops still hovered at middleweight (he dried out at 156 for Oscar).

[slystaff]

I wonder if Floyd would've agreed to fight Hopkins at 154, which may not have been a stretch when Hops still hovered at middleweight (he dried out at 156 for Oscar).

He would have bitten off more than he could chew in attempting Hopkins at 154.

Hopkins would have beat him like he was his daddy..

[Double L]

interesting that Kofi Jantuah was one of PBF's sparring partner. if nothing else, the guy can punch. wonder why PBF wouldn't allow us to watch his sparring.

ODH UD

[Rubio MHS]

interesting that Kofi Jantuah was one of PBF's sparring partner. if nothing else, the guy can punch. wonder why PBF wouldn't allow us to watch his sparring.

ODH UDYou should know that. Mayweather always looks like shit in sparring. So did Leonard and Ali.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

This fight will be fixed.

[monkeystyle]

I hope I'm wrong...

Floyd wins a non-action fight by decision.

[TFK]

I hope I'm wrong...

Floyd wins a non-action fight by decision.

What he said

TFK

[monkeystyle]

What he said

TFK

I think this fight has disapointment writen all over it, but I hope I'm wrong :old:

[TysonFan4Ever]

Oscar TKO 4

[Jake]

I have somewhat of a gut/logic conflict as well...

Logic dictates to me that Floyd will have no trouble in hitting Oscar (even Gatti managed to hit Oscar frequently) and would give De La Hoya HELL in terms of getting hit in return. Oscar's favourite and only dangerous punch is the left hook...and it's virtually impossible to land a flush left hook on Floyd.

De la Hoya is an orthodox fighter who stands 5'11", has fast hands...but not fast reflexes or legs anymore and has the tendency to slow down in the last half of the fight.

A prime version of this same De La Hoya and a very hard time with a slightly post prime Pernell Whitaker and in the view of many...lost that fight.

Pernell, at 147, at that stage...was no more elusive than Floyd, no faster, no bigger, shorter, less reach, less power. Oscar at that stage was faster, fitter, hungrier than he is now.

So logically, Floyd should beat Oscar on the outside and on the inside and win a clear unanimous decision.

Gut, however, says that Oscar's combination of jab, reach, height and power will give Floyd fits and cause Floyd to lose a decision (or possibly a TKO if Oscar manages to land the left hook FLUSH).


BUT...

I have learned from experience that LOGIC tends to win over GUT, at least in my case and so I'll stick with logic and predict a Floyd decision by scores of 116-112.

The Sly One has Spoken!! :warning:
I just submitted an official prediction elsewhere with that same exact scenario - Floyd by decision in a 116-112ish type fight.

[Father of Muzse]

I just submitted an official prediction elsewhere with that same exact scenario - Floyd by decision in a 116-112ish type fight.

And the four rounds Oscar wins have more to do with Floyd running than Oscar catching up to him.

"However"

best case scenario...

TD 1

:blobbox:

[whiskey]

I just submitted an official prediction elsewhere with that same exact scenario - Floyd by decision in a 116-112ish type fight.

:nono:

[Eaner v2.0]

Oscar by controversial decision

[IronDanLaw]

Mayweather UD.

I can only see one winner and thats Floyd.

I think he box and move all night to a decision win.

Oscar in his prime may of had a great chance of beating Mayweather,But this current version of Oscar is getting outboxed.

[Orthodox Crusader]

Oscar by controversial decision

Unprecedented.

[slystaff]

Oscar by controversial decision

Actually, I believe the judges will favour Floyd.

I think Oscar only wins a decision if it is well deserved. But that's just me.....

[KaukipRrr]

Look sand monkey it doesn't say anything there about DLH in 10...:notallthere:

:eeeek: Your right,... *hurt* I only imagined I had written it, I guess I'm losing it,..if a stray dog trots past you and licks your toe today, ackowledge that as my soul kissing your feet and grovelling in worship because of this rude manner I addressed you for which I am extremely, extremely sorry,...extremely sorry Minky,..

TKO 10 it is though,..TKO 10,..

[Eaner v2.0]

Actually, I believe the judges will favour Floyd.

I think Oscar only wins a decision if it is well deserved. But that's just me.....

I dont

the crowd will favor DLH. The huge uproars and applause may influence what the judges see in there. This isn't the masoluem that was Mosley Collazo or Mayweather Baldomir this crowd will be roaring all through 12 mostly in Oscar's favor


Floyd will look like the winner but I think Oscar will get the nod

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 16
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by TKO 10
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10
Double L: De La Hoya by UD
TysonFan4Ever: De La Hoya by TKO 4
Eaner v2.0: De La Hoya by controversial Decision


Floyd Mayweather: 19
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by close UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD
LATIN KING: Mayweather by UD
monkeystyle: Mayweather by N/A Decision
TFK: Mayweather by N/A Decision
Jake: Mayweather by Decision
IronDanLaw: Mayweather by UD

[Hanzy]

DLH KO in the 4th in a shocker ala Jones/Tarver 2! :clap:

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 17
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by TKO 10
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10
Double L: De La Hoya by UD
TysonFan4Ever: De La Hoya by TKO 4
Eaner v2.0: De La Hoya by controversial Decision
Hanzy: De La Hoya by KO 4

Floyd Mayweather: 19
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by close UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD
LATIN KING: Mayweather by UD
monkeystyle: Mayweather by N/A Decision
TFK: Mayweather by N/A Decision
Jake: Mayweather by Decision
IronDanLaw: Mayweather by UD
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[Rubio MHS]

Mayweather has NO popularity in Las Vegas.

[Fighter]

I'll wait for the weighin but I'm surprised to see so many picking Oscar.

I'm leaning heavily Mayweather right now.

[KaukipRrr]

I'll wait for the weighin but I'm surprised to see so many picking Oscar.

I'm leaning heavily Mayweather right now.

:crafty: ^There's a few noteable Fraud fans who've picked Oscar, they are clearly nervous, and so are picking him just to balance thier anxious emotions a fraction.

[Father of Muzse]

:crafty: ^There's a few noteable Fraud fans who've picked Oscar, they are clearly nervous, and so are picking him just to balance thier anxious emotions a fraction.

What about those who hate both and hope for a 1st round technical decision?

:dunno:

[Son of Payton]

What about those who hate both and hope for a 1st round technical decision?

:dunno:

:nono:

I was in the same boat with you for Mayweather-Judah. Remember my prediction of "no-contest", and then came Zab's antics in the 10th round.


Sooooooo close. :crafty:

[Father of Muzse]

I'd like to see Floyd KTFO.

I'd like to see Oscar beaten up then given a gift decision.

I'd like to see Oscar face down on the canvas.

Any scenario where one guy takes an ass kicking, then gets screwed is satisfactory in my eyes.

The most likely scenario (and worst case scenario from a fan point of view) is Floyd wins a boring decision. This could very well be a fight Floyd wins, but loses in the court of public opinion.

It's possible that Floyd will fight aggressively to lure Oscar into leading so he can eat him up with counters. At some point Floyd must make a stand and fight Oscar in order to get his respect.

Oscar has always thrown wide shots, especially when he's throwing combinations. Floyd will land inside Oscar's flurries consistently. Oscar has to accept that going in and must have full confidence in his chin in that he can handle Floyd's punch.

"However"

A perfectly timed counter can surprise and hurt guys with the best chin and Oscar must be mindful of Floyd's counters if Floyd sets his feet and counters hard. If Floyd's punching off his back foot, Oscar won't be wary of what's coming back at him.

The tone will be set early and whoever wins the early exchanges, will win the fight. Meaning, how Oscar reacts to Floyd's counters early will set the tone. Mosley was successful against Oscar because Oscar wouldn't punch back if Shane landed inside his combinations. Oscar must not get discouraged by getting beaten to the punch.

Outside of a one punch KO, I don't see Oscar winning this fight. Floyd will be too slick early and will put too many rounds in the bank for Oscar to catch up down the stretch.

With that said, Floyd isn't the same fighter he was a few years ago. I don't think he's got the wheels to bounce in and out like he did against Corrales. Oscar has never been great at walking down guys with good movement and I don't see him effectively cutting off the ring later in the fight to run Floyd into the necssaey traps to catch him with the homerun shot he'll need to pull out the fight.

Floyd by decision, but a scenario where either guys gets robbed or seriously injured is more than acceptable.

[dsimon3387]

I'll wait for the weighin but I'm surprised to see so many picking Oscar.

I'm leaning heavily Mayweather right now.

dsimon writes;

And this fact, so adroitely noted by fighter makes things very interesting. Despite how people rib each other and tease each other mercilessly here :lol:. I have noticed that the boards are a pretty good tool for predicting the winner of a fight, or at least getting one in the right stratosphere. I would say that the closeness of the vote at this point means that Oscar has a better chance than percieved by most.

What is interesting is that even though the boards reflect (in pure numbers) a close fight, as individuals people are diametrically against the board's general opinion. Quite a few people believe that the guy they pick to win will dominate. This fact would usually mean one guy would have a lot moe votes than the other guy.

Usually in a fight where one guy will dominate (take Gatti versus Mayweather) the board vote is skewed towards the dominant fighter. Before you guys laugh consider this: Futures traders have bet on and been correct in picking the presidential winning candidate every time...

[Father of Muzse]

dsimon writes;

And this fact, so adroitely noted by fighter makes things very interesting. Despite how people rib each other and tease each other mercilessly here :lol:. I have noticed that the boards are a pretty good tool for predicting the winner of a fight, or at least getting one in the right stratosphere. I would say that the closeness of the vote at this point means that Oscar has a better chance than percieved by most.

What is interesting is that even though the boards reflect (in pure numbers) a close fight, as individuals people are diametrically against the board's general opinion. Quite a few people believe that the guy they pick to win will dominate. This fact would usually mean one guy would have a lot moe votes than the other guy.

Usually in a fight where one guy will dominate (take Gatti versus Mayweather) the board vote is skewed towards the dominant fighter. Before you guys laugh consider this: Futures traders have bet on and been correct in picking the presidential winning candidate every time...

I hate both guys.

I only hope one of them gets seriously injured. :bears:

[dsimon3387]

I hate both guys.

I only hope one of them gets seriously injured. :bears:

dsimon writes:

Well I think the fix is in on this one. Maybe not explicitly but implicitly for sure. If you look at fights like Frazier and Ali where the guys had a lot to lose in bragging rights, there was some media exposure to hype the fight. But in this case a whole tv series, etc... And these guys with their lack of maturity? Neither of them have enough balls to really go for broke in this fight and damage a frail ego. Oscar will let Floyd win as soon as he saves face and maybe tags pretty boy with a few good shots. Pretty boy instead of going after Oscar will win from a distance risking nothing.

They might even be doing this for a second fight.

[Erratic]

I'd like to see Floyd KTFO.

I'd like to see Oscar beaten up then given a gift decision.

I'd like to see Oscar face down on the canvas.

Any scenario where one guy takes an ass kicking, then gets screwed is satisfactory in my eyes.

The most likely scenario (and worst case scenario from a fan point of view) is Floyd wins a boring decision. This could very well be a fight Floyd wins, but loses in the court of public opinion.

It's possible that Floyd will fight aggressively to lure Oscar into leading so he can eat him up with counters. At some point Floyd must make a stand and fight Oscar in order to get his respect.

Oscar has always thrown wide shots, especially when he's throwing combinations. Floyd will land inside Oscar's flurries consistently. Oscar has to accept that going in and must have full confidence in his chin in that he can handle Floyd's punch.

"However"

A perfectly timed counter can surprise and hurt guys with the best chin and Oscar must be mindful of Floyd's counters if Floyd sets his feet and counters hard. If Floyd's punching off his back foot, Oscar won't be wary of what's coming back at him.

The tone will be set early and whoever wins the early exchanges, will win the fight. Meaning, how Oscar reacts to Floyd's counters early will set the tone. Mosley was successful against Oscar because Oscar wouldn't punch back if Shane landed inside his combinations. Oscar must not get discouraged by getting beaten to the punch.

Outside of a one punch KO, I don't see Oscar winning this fight. Floyd will be too slick early and will put too many rounds in the bank for Oscar to catch up down the stretch.

With that said, Floyd isn't the same fighter he was a few years ago. I don't think he's got the wheels to bounce in and out like he did against Corrales. Oscar has never been great at walking down guys with good movement and I don't see him effectively cutting off the ring later in the fight to run Floyd into the necssaey traps to catch him with the homerun shot he'll need to pull out the fight.

Floyd by decision, but a scenario where either guys gets robbed or seriously injured is more than acceptable.

Weren't you saying for the longest time that Oscar would stop Floyd?

[Father of Muzse]

Weren't you saying for the longest time that Oscar would stop Floyd?

I also said the fight would end in a technical decision (which I hope happens).

This is my official pick.

[slystaff]

Weren't you saying for the longest time that Oscar would stop Floyd?

I thought so too

[Father of Muzse]

I thought so too

I said a lot of crap just to rub you Floyd nutriders the wrong way.

It's pretty much a lose-lose fight for me. I hate each guy.

I've hated Oscar for longer, but dislike Floyd more intensely than Oscar at this point.

The only plus side for a Mayweather win would be the beatdown a Mosley fight would bring for him.

I've always felt that a DLH fight is more winnable than a Mosley fight due to their styles.

[slystaff]

I said a lot of crap just to rub you Floyd nutriders the wrong way.

It's pretty much a lose-lose fight for me. I hate each guy.

I've hated Oscar for longer, but dislike Floyd more intensely than Oscar at this point.

The only plus side for a Mayweather win would be the beatdown a Mosley fight would bring for him.

I've always felt that a DLH fight is more winnable than a Mosley fight due to their styles.

Ok.

Still I give you a hard time Muzse, from time to time, but you are without a doubt one of the best analysts on this site (or any other site)...even though your bias tends to do you a disservice from time to time.

I do think, however, that Oscar is a harder fight for Floyd than Mosley is. Oscar is less predictable than Shane. With Shane we KNOW that after the first few rounds he'll settle into slugging mode and as such Floyd would just potshot him from the outside.

The only danger than Shane presents to Floyd are his bodyshots...but Floyd wouldn't be silly enough to stay stationary long enough to absorb too many of those.

Oscar's height, jab, fearsome power and versatility make him a much harder fight for Floyd.

I'm hoping that Floyd beats Oscar and then fights Shane just so that you see what I'm speaking of...

[Erratic]

I think Oscar is a bigger threat....I guess we'll have to wait and see if Floyd wins, and then fights Mosley in the fall.

That's what I think of Floyd's alleged retirement plans.

[slystaff]

I think Oscar is a bigger threat....I guess we'll have to wait and see if Floyd wins, and then fights Mosley in the fall.

That's what I think of Floyd's alleged retirement plans.

I think that Floyd's retirement plans are legit..but not for the reasons that he's saying.

The fact is that he hurts his hands in every fight. He knows he has a short life in this game...

[Hanzy]

I think that Floyd's retirement plans are legit..but not for the reasons that he's saying.

The fact is that he hurts his hands in every fight. He knows he has a short life in this game...

I hope he shatters every bone in his hand in the 1st round. Then DLH murders him!:crafty:

[slystaff]

I hope he shatters every bone in his hand in the 1st round. Then DLH murders him!:crafty:

I'm hoping for a good fight that isn't marred by injury or any other such nonsense.

[Hanzy]

I'm hoping for a good fight that isn't marred by injury or any other such nonsense.

injury is part of the game though. If Floyd breaks his hand, that's his problem. He still has to go out there and fight just like every other warrior before him whom he considers himself superior to. If DLH senses pain or fear from him, he'll attack.

[slystaff]

injury is part of the game though. If Floyd breaks his hand, that's his problem. He still has to go out there and fight just like every other warrior before him whom he considers himself superior to. If DLH senses pain or fear from him, he'll attack.

I know injury is part of the game. But would you be satisfied if Oscar wins ONLY because of a Floyd injury? Wouldn't you want Oscar to win, simply because he's the better man?

[Father of Muzse]

Ok.

Still I give you a hard time Muzse, from time to time, but you are without a doubt one of the best analysts on this site (or any other site)...even though your bias tends to do you a disservice from time to time.

I do think, however, that Oscar is a harder fight for Floyd than Mosley is. Oscar is less predictable than Shane. With Shane we KNOW that after the first few rounds he'll settle into slugging mode and as such Floyd would just potshot him from the outside.

The only danger than Shane presents to Floyd are his bodyshots...but Floyd wouldn't be silly enough to stay stationary long enough to absorb too many of those.

Oscar's height, jab, fearsome power and versatility make him a much harder fight for Floyd.

I'm hoping that Floyd beats Oscar and then fights Shane just so that you see what I'm speaking of...

I think Mosley's a tougher fight because he brings phyciality to the table that Oscar doesn't. Oscar has physical advantages which can upset Floyd's rhythm, but I've never seen him apply them when he's faced guys with the traits of Mayweather.

he tried to walk down Whitaker and Mosley and that was a younger, faster Oscar. I don't see how he'll be able to do that against Floyd. Outside of a fight changing shot, Oscar will catch potshots.

Mind you, he's not a bum like John Ruiz, he'll have his share of moments, but I'm not convinced he'll stick to his plan.

Plus, one of the main issues he had with Mosley is that he has a tendency to cover instead of counter whenb faced with a guy with faster hands than he. That's why Mosley hit him with so many right hands. Oscar's main defense was to bend down and Mosley threw right hands over the top which ended up clubbing him on the back of the head.

As far as Mayweather's concerned, he's a straighter puncher than Shane so those Right hands will be lasers which catch Oscar on the chin. It's possible that Floyd will hurt his hands and become ultra defensive. If his hands go, that changes everything. Oscar would be wise to pressure him and eat shots because Floyd will essentially push right hands and not put anything behind them.

If Floyd gets Oscar's respect early and gets him in the mindset where he's not willing to accept shots, even if he pushes right hands, those early shots will be a deterent and Oscar will take his foot off the gas. That's why I think how Oscar reacts to counters early will determine how this fight goes down the stretch.

Oscar's power is limited to one side. Floyd would be well served to constantly circle to his left (like the Corrales fight) to take the jab out of play and the lefthook. The only time he should go to his right is when Oscar misses the lefthook so he can roll a right hand back over the top then circle out to his right. He can't get greedy with a cleanup lefthook because he might get cleaned up himself. That's why I think he'll potshot himself to victory.


Regarding Shane and Floyd. I'd bet Shane all day long vs Mayweather based on what I saw in the Judah fight. Shane can be a mental midget, but he's not in the league of Zab Judah. Plus, Shane is taller and has a longer reach than Floyd. He has the quickness to catch Floyd coming out like Judah.

The most important reason I think Shane has a better chance at beating Floyd is his mindset that he always has to get in the last shot. Meaning, if Mayweather lands a good shot, Shane wants to land two after that. I think Shane makes Floyd fight more often than he'd like.

Lastly, as you noted, Shane's a good body puncher. If there's one weakness I've seen in Floyd it's his ability to take body shots. I thought Castillo bothered him tremendously with bodyshots, but since those fights, no one has committed to digging into his gut.

I see Shane throwing right hands around the side and clubbing Floyd to death with bodyshots the way Rahman wisely did against Toney. Sam Peter did some of the same against James in their last fight. Mind you, Toney doesn't have the mobility of Floyd, but Floyd has steadily become more of a flat footed fighter. I see Mosley taking advantage of that.

[Father of Muzse]

:lol: I'm hoping for a good fight that isn't marred by injury or any other such nonsense.

Technical decision round 1.

I wish Margaret Goodman was the ringside doctor for this one.

[Hanzy]

I know injury is part of the game. But would you be satisfied if Oscar wins ONLY because of a Floyd injury? Wouldn't you want Oscar to win, simply because he's the better man?

As if any Floyd-butt licker would give a sh*t if Oscar got injured?:lol: To most, it would just be Oscar giving another excuse.

[slystaff]

As if any Floyd-butt licker would give a sh*t if Oscar got injured?:lol: To most, it would just be Oscar giving another excuse.

Actually I wouldn't want Oscar to get injured. I want him to be at his best, so that Floyd can get credit for the win.

[Hanzy]

Actually I wouldn't want Oscar to get injured. I want him to be at his best, so that Floyd can get credit for the win.

How can he get credit for the win when this is only Oscar's 2nd fight in a 3 year span, not to mention he's nearing his mid-30s? If Floyd pot shots all night and runs like a bitch leading to a 12 round decision win, he's not going to get any credit whatsoever. It will not help his ppv appeal either.

[Hut*Hut]

Hut*Huts prediction: floyd by domination

[Tyler Durden]

How can he get credit for the win when this is only Oscar's 2nd fight in a 3 year span, not to mention he's nearing his mid-30s? If Floyd pot shots all night and runs like a bitch leading to a 12 round decision win, he's not going to get any credit whatsoever. It will not help his ppv appeal either.

:bears:

[ArturoGatti]

:bears::clap:

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 17
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by TKO 10
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10
Double L: De La Hoya by UD
TysonFan4Ever: De La Hoya by TKO 4
Eaner v2.0: De La Hoya by controversial Decision
Hanzy: De La Hoya by KO 4

Floyd Mayweather: 21
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by close UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD
LATIN KING: Mayweather by UD
monkeystyle: Mayweather by N/A Decision
TFK: Mayweather by N/A Decision
Jake: Mayweather by Decision
IronDanLaw: Mayweather by UD
Father of Muzse: Mayweather by UD
Hut*Hut: Mayweather by Domination

[Jesus of montreal]

I think that dlh quit after a body shot

[Double L]

Actually I wouldn't want Oscar to get injured. I want him to be at his best, so that Floyd can get credit for the win.

be prepared for major disappointment Sly.

[slystaff]

be prepared for major disappointment Sly.

What're you saying? That Oscar is likely not going to be at his best?

[Punk]

DLH SD.:bears:

[Rubio MHS]

I'm sure this is totally coincidental, but the biggest idiots on this message board are all picking De la Hoya, minus Jaws and Slystaff.

[Double L]

I'm sure this is totally coincidental, but the biggest idiots on this message board are all picking De la Hoya, minus Jaws and Slystaff.


:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::lol::lol:

[PetreTG]

I'm sure this is totally coincidental, but the biggest idiots on this message board are all picking De la Hoya, minus Jaws and Slystaff.

Score 1 more strike for ole Ruby ... I guess he's not taking advice seriously.

[Son of Payton]

Use of the term "idiots" is a warning-worthy offense now?

[Tyler Durden]

Use of the term "idiots" is a warning-worthy offense now?

When you don't like someone :lol:

[Maj]

Oscar's favourite and only dangerous punch is the left hook...and it's virtually impossible to land a flush left hook on Floyd.


The Sly One has Spoken!! :warning:

That's all I read in that post and that was enough to make me SKIP it.:notallthere:

[slystaff]

Use of the term "idiots" is a warning-worthy offense now?

It would be if a certain poster called "slystaff" for example...said it. :tease:

[PetreTG]

Use of the term "idiots" is a warning-worthy offense now?

You have noticed the thread in the Mod Squad , brought up by someone other than me about Rubio and his pattern , right ?

Not to mention the one brought up by Jake about GD ?

And we won't mention the fact that Rubio has been given advice prior to this to cut the constant attacks.

Hell ... it's not my forum ... let every post Rubio makes be insults and attacks ... we can have General Smack Talk Boxing Discussion for all I care.

Quite honestly I'm surprise how much is going on in GD from it's one listed moderator.

:clap:


HERE'S A REMINDER OF JAKES VERY SPECIFIC POST TO THE MOD CREW (http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=357153&postcount=1)

Has this changed ? If so I didn't get the memo.

[Father of Muzse]

Petre,

Why don't you call some of your friends and fix the fight for Oscar.

:lol:

[mikE]

Floyd ud

[PetreTG]

Petre,

Why don't you call some of your friends and fix the fight for Oscar.

:lol:

I'm not even gonna touch that one ... I don't know nothin' :cool:

[slystaff]

You have noticed the thread in the Mod Squad , brought up by someone other than me about Rubio and his pattern , right ?

Not to mention the one brought up by Jake about GD ?

And we won't mention the fact that Rubio has been given advice prior to this to cut the constant attacks.

Hell ... it's not my forum ... let every post Rubio makes be insults and attacks ... we can have General Smack Talk Boxing Discussion for all I care.

Quite honestly I'm surprise how much is going on in GD from it's one listed moderator.

:clap:


HERE'S A REMINDER OF JAKES VERY SPECIFIC POST TO THE MOD CREW (http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=357153&postcount=1)

Has this changed ? If so I didn't get the memo.

Why bother responding to Payton? He's a hypocrite.

He warned me for MUCH LESS just recently...threatening to permanently silence me of all thngs for merely telling another poster that he was being presumptious in disagreeing with my topic.

I'm going to call someone an idiot very soon...and watch the quick warning from that marked michael lampkin...

[Son of Payton]

...threatening to permanently silence me of all thngs for merely telling another poster that he was being presumptious in disagreeing with my topic.


...you have a knack for offering simplistic views on... well, just about every topic, it seems

:dunno:

[jaws1216]

:dunno:

the horse has you confused with me

And yes Seabiscuit, attacking solid contributing posters unprovoked will earn you some kind of discipline next time you do it

[dsimon3387]

dsimon writes:

All this banning shit is ridiculous. Neither Sea Biscuit or Rubio M(ultiple) S(chlerosis) do anything worthy of being banned. Both are knowlegable posters who contribute to the board. Whether they win any popularity contests or not is entirely besides the point.

Calling somoene an idiot is just not that big a deal.

[Son of Payton]

dsimon writes:

All this banning shit is ridiculous. Neither Sea Biscuit or Rubio M(ultiple) S(chlerosis) do anything worthy of being banned. Both are knowlegable posters who contribute to the board. Whether they win any popularity contests or not is entirely besides the point.

Calling somoene an idiot is just not that big a deal.

:eeeek:

Idiot.


























:tease:

[dsimon3387]

:eeeek:

Idiot.


























:tease:

dsimon writes:

:lol:

[Alabama_Man]

You have noticed the thread in the Mod Squad , brought up by someone other than me about Rubio and his pattern , right ?

Not to mention the one brought up by Jake about GD ?

And we won't mention the fact that Rubio has been given advice prior to this to cut the constant attacks.

Hell ... it's not my forum ... let every post Rubio makes be insults and attacks ... we can have General Smack Talk Boxing Discussion for all I care.

Quite honestly I'm surprise how much is going on in GD from it's one listed moderator.

:clap:


HERE'S A REMINDER OF JAKES VERY SPECIFIC POST TO THE MOD CREW (http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=357153&postcount=1)

Has this changed ? If so I didn't get the memo.

If Zac MHS gets banned, he'll only have 20 other forums to spend 8 hours a day spamming.

Zac believes in putting in a good day's work. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[jaws1216]

dsimon writes:

All this banning shit is ridiculous. Neither Sea Biscuit or Rubio M(ultiple) S(chlerosis) do anything worthy of being banned. Both are knowlegable posters who contribute to the board. Whether they win any popularity contests or not is entirely besides the point.

Calling somoene an idiot is just not that big a deal.

I just think there's a difference between insulting someone you constantly joust with, and taking a random shot at a quality poster who doesn't dick around. We need more people like that, so attacking them unwarranted is a serious problem IMO

[Jake]

You have noticed the thread in the Mod Squad , brought up by someone other than me about Rubio and his pattern , right ?

Not to mention the one brought up by Jake about GD ?

And we won't mention the fact that Rubio has been given advice prior to this to cut the constant attacks.

Hell ... it's not my forum ... let every post Rubio makes be insults and attacks ... we can have General Smack Talk Boxing Discussion for all I care.

Quite honestly I'm surprise how much is going on in GD from it's one listed moderator.

:clap:


HERE'S A REMINDER OF JAKES VERY SPECIFIC POST TO THE MOD CREW (http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=357153&postcount=1)

Has this changed ? If so I didn't get the memo.
the irony being I can no longer view that thread/forum :lol: ... so, that's changed.

[slystaff]

the horse has you confused with me

And yes Seabiscuit, attacking solid contributing posters unprovoked will earn you some kind of discipline next time you do it

I'm assuming that you're referring to me as seabiscuit. This "horse" stuff is really very silly. You'll notice that all of the quality posters around here, that really know how to articulate a point and can hang with me in a straight up debate of analysis without getting hurt feelings (Donnybrook, Jake, Muzse and quite a few others whose names escape me at the moment)...have never called me a horse.

You seem to think that this may be bothering me (or else why would you persist in embarrasing yourself in this manner)...but all it proves is that those that do it are both immature...and simply cannot handle me in a straight up discussion. You are actually making yourself look silly (and reminding us of your age) whenever you do it.

This handsome face looks nothing like a horse.

But don't stop on my account, continue by all means..

Secondly..I actually didn't confuse you with Payton. I know you warned me...but that's fine. You're young, a new moderator..and you want to exercize your power a bit...like a new toy. I understand.

It's Payton that is proving his bias. But that's ok...while he is a moderator and I am merely a poster on this site...he has the advantage on this site over me. Whenever I bother him and he can't handle it...he just puts on his MOD hat...as that is what he has as his defense. I'm no longer going to fight battles I can't win. In this arena (these forums) he has more armour and weaponry than me..so I'll leave him be (while I want to be here).

But I'll make sure that he gets what's coming to him...no doubt about it.

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 18
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by TKO 10
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10
Double L: De La Hoya by UD
TysonFan4Ever: De La Hoya by TKO 4
Eaner v2.0: De La Hoya by controversial Decision
Hanzy: De La Hoya by KO 4
Punk: De La Hoya by SD




Floyd Mayweather: 21
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD
LATIN KING: Mayweather by UD
monkeystyle: Mayweather by N/A Decision
TFK: Mayweather by N/A Decision
Jake: Mayweather by Decision
IronDanLaw: Mayweather by UD
Father of Muzse: Mayweather by UD
Hut*Hut: Mayweather by Domination
mikE: Mayweather by UD

[jaws1216]

Hello, I'm Mr. Ed

wow, all this time I thought you were just some random thoroughbred.

Whats this nonsense with Hanzy about making it big in acting. I loved your show growing up

[slystaff]

wow, all this time I thought you were just some random thoroughbred.

Whats this nonsense with Hanzy about making it big in acting. I loved your show growing up

I rest my case.

[boxingnotboxers]

The forum seems equally split. If either guy wins decisively, then they should get a decent amount of credit on this forum since it's a pick'em right now.

[Barristan]

Mayweather by 9th round TKO

[mexican wedding shirt]

Sly I think you should find out where Jaws lives and beat him unconcious with a hoof attached to each fist. Teach the little bastard a lesson and defend your honour.

[Son of Payton]

It's Payton that is proving his bias. But that's ok...while he is a moderator and I am merely a poster on this site...he has the advantage on this site over me. Whenever I bother him and he can't handle it...he just puts on his MOD hat...as that is what he has as his defense. I'm no longer going to fight battles I can't win. In this arena (these forums) he has more armour and weaponry than me..so I'll leave him be (while I want to be here).

Whatever. I can't moderate everything, I'm not on here 24-7. I deal with whatever I catch at that time. I see you, acting like an ass, acting like you run this place and can get away with anything, and I deal with it. Now...you deal with it.

But I'll make sure that he gets what's coming to him...no doubt about it.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

:laughing:

[LOK]

Floyd "Pretty Boy" will stop the golden gay chicken in 8!

Watch!

it wont be like a KO but more of a DLH gets winded from missing all night, maybe hurts his shoulder and takes a PUMMELING on the ropes when the ref waves it off! :popcorn:

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Sly I think you should find out where Jaws lives and beat him unconcious with a hoof attached to each fist. Teach the little bastard a lesson and defend your honour.

:laughing:

[KaukipRrr]

Floyd "Pretty Boy" will stop the golden gay chicken in 8!

Watch!

it wont be like a KO but more of a DLH gets winded from missing all night, maybe hurts his shoulder and takes a PUMMELING on the ropes when the ref waves it off! :popcorn:

:nono: Lok please, you speak as if Oscar isn't an accurate puncher in his own right, thats the main reason I picked him.

[jaws1216]

Sly I think you should find out where Jaws lives and beat him unconcious with a hoof attached to each fist. Teach the little bastard a lesson and defend your honour.

he could always send me a threatening letter via the Pony Express

:laughing: :laughing:

[Free Ike]

Virgil, change by pick. Delete it please. This post supercedes the others.

[ILLUMINATI]

Virgil, change by pick. Delete it please. This post supercedes the others.

change it to waht?...you fuck!!

[Free Ike]

change it to waht?...you fuck!!
DELETE IT PLEASE. I will make one officially soon, dearest virginia.

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 18
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by TKO 10
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10
Double L: De La Hoya by UD
TysonFan4Ever: De La Hoya by TKO 4
Eaner v2.0: De La Hoya by controversial Decision
Hanzy: De La Hoya by KO 4
Punk: De La Hoya by SD




Floyd Mayweather: 23
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD
LATIN KING: Mayweather by UD
monkeystyle: Mayweather by N/A Decision
TFK: Mayweather by N/A Decision
Jake: Mayweather by Decision
IronDanLaw: Mayweather by UD
Father of Muzse: Mayweather by UD
Hut*Hut: Mayweather by Domination
mikE: Mayweather by UD
Barristan: Mayweather by TKO 9
LOK: Mayweather by KO 8

[Dollar-Fifty78]

DLH TKO 8th

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 19
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by TKO 10
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10
Double L: De La Hoya by UD
TysonFan4Ever: De La Hoya by TKO 4
Eaner v2.0: De La Hoya by controversial Decision
Hanzy: De La Hoya by KO 4
Punk: De La Hoya by SD
Dollar-Fifty78: De La Hoya by TKO 8



Floyd Mayweather: 23
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD
LATIN KING: Mayweather by UD
monkeystyle: Mayweather by N/A Decision
TFK: Mayweather by N/A Decision
Jake: Mayweather by Decision
IronDanLaw: Mayweather by UD
Father of Muzse: Mayweather by UD
Hut*Hut: Mayweather by Domination
mikE: Mayweather by UD
Barristan: Mayweather by TKO 9
LOK: Mayweather by KO 8

[Roll With The Punches]

Mayweather Decison

[Tyler Durden]

Mayweather Decison

Teeny bopper.....

[Alabama_Man]

Mayweather by DOMINATING ASS stoppage.

Somewhere around the mid-late rounds. Let's say TKO 8. :cool:

[slystaff]

In addition to an outcome prediction i want to predict the way the fight will go:

Floyd will be the agressor and Oscar will be the boxer, looking to time his opponent.

Oscar isn't planning to go and look for Floyd and end up lookin foolish like a Tortoise chasing a hare. He'll want Floyd to come to him.

Floyd will oblidge simply because he'll have more success on the inside, than on the outside...contrary to what most think...when Oscar chooses to make it a jab dependent fight.

Even though Floyd has less power...he'll HAVE to make the fight against the taller, rangier opponent...much like Leonard did against Hearns.

[Fighter]

Man, I was leaning towards Mayweather UD, but he is SO NERVOUS going into the final week that I'm on the fence right now.

It's like he hasn't closed the sale. He is yelling that is just a name on the other side, bad mouthing Mosley, not in a confident way but almost in a DESPERATE way to convince HIMSELF.

Oscar: "It's one of the biggest fights. Some people melt under the big bright lights. Will see..."

I think I'm witnessing a Mayweather MELTDOWN literally hours before the fight. You can be in the greatest shape, but tension, nervousness and creeping doubts EAT at your condition.

[*Z*]

Oscar TKO 7.

[ILLUMINATI]

Mayweather did seem a bit nervous/edgy in that interview he did last night on Wednesday Night FIghts...

[who?]

DLH will send mayweather unconscious in the first or second round.

DLH KO 1.

[sexperienced]

DLH ud.

[Hex-One]

I'm going with Delahoya by TKO in the 11th.

[PetreTG]

the irony being I can no longer view that thread/forum :lol: ... so, that's changed.

:doh:

So what happened to the memo ? :warning:

[ILLUMINATI]

Oscar De La Hoya: 23
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÏLÅQUÍL£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by TKO 10
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO