Who should Juan Diaz face next?

[Alabama_Man]

Who should Diaz face next in your opinion? :dunno:

[Rubio MHS]

Pacquiao. It'd be an easy win for him.

[Alabama_Man]

Pacquiao. It'd be an easy win for him.
So you support him looking lower of his own division for his next opponent? :dunno:

[ILLUMINATI]

Casamayor
Rahim
Campbell...

....

[Rubio MHS]

So you support him looking lower of his own division for his next opponent? :dunno:If it's the biggest money fight, why not?

[Alabama_Man]

Casamayor
Rahim
Campbell...

....

Campbell? That could be interesting, but I'm learning towards "too old, and too slow" at the moment.

Casamayor would give Diaz problems though.

[REEDsART]

Juan Diaz vs Julio Diaz has PPV Potential @ this Point...


REED:cool:

[Alabama_Man]

If it's the biggest money fight, why not?

Because he won't get it. Diaz is a big lightweight, and Pacquiao is a small Junior Lightweight. Unless Diaz is going to squeeze his fatboy body into 130, it isn't happening. Plus Pacquiao would stop Diaz. I only put Pacquiao on the poll for stupid people like you.:tease:

[ILLUMINATI]

Campbell? That could be interesting, but I'm learning towards "too old, and too slow" at the moment.

Casamayor would give Diaz problems though.

They are all tooo old, but who else Kid Diamond..he doesn't move enough Diaz will have fun with him...Julio Diaz..he lose/close fight vs. Manfredy when el diablo was shot and found god. DAvid Diaz isn't he fighting Morales...he might not make it out of that...

[Rubio MHS]

Pacquiao is a small Junior Lightweight.He might've come up from 112, but he's big at 130. He looked just as big as Morales in their last fight.

[Alabama_Man]

They are all tooo old, but who else Kid Diamond..he doesn't move enough Diaz will have fun with him...Julio Diaz..he lose/close fight vs. Manfredy when el diablo was shot and found god. DAvid Diaz isn't he fighting Morales...he might not make it out of that...

Julio Diaz has changed as a fighter since then, but I agree I don't see him beating Juan... it would be close though.

I think the winner of Guzman - Katsidis should be considered too. :cool:

[Rubio MHS]

Juan Diaz vs Julio Diaz has PPV Potential @ this Point...


REED:cool:Um, yeah.

[Alabama_Man]

He might've come up from 112, but he's big at 130. He looked just as big as Morales in their last fight.

Looked.

The last time Juan Diaz weighed 112 was when he was 8 years old.

Pacquiao weighs in 1-2 pounds under the 130 pound limit regularly. He could make featherweight if he wanted to.

[REEDsART]

Um, yeah.Precisely,BITCH..


REED:cool:

[Fighter]

I think Casamayor. He is the OFFICIAL champion of the division and has not lost in the RING.

As a manager, it is probably the best fight for him from a money-risk analysis perspective.

[Rubio MHS]

Looked.

The last time Juan Diaz weighed 112 was when he was 8 years old.

Pacquiao weighs in 1-2 pounds under the 130 pound limit regularly. He could make featherweight if he wanted to.James Toney fought 1 or 2 pounds below the middleweight limit when he fought there. Does that mean he was a small middleweight?!?!?!?

[Alabama_Man]

James Toney fought 1 or 2 pounds below the middleweight limit when he fought there. Does that mean he was a small middleweight?!?!?!?

Did James Toney fight at lightweight too (4 divisions below)?:dunno:

[dsimon3387]

dsimon writes:

I don't know who Diaz should fight next but he looked seasoned. Not so much of the aimless grunting. He was accurate and methodical. His distancing and ability to measure Freitas was impressive. I think he could be impressive against Pacman if they fought at a catch weight.

I don't think Diaz is ready for Juan Manual though. That woul be a great fight for JM to take because he would perform surgery on Diaz.

[Rubio MHS]

Did James Toney fight at lightweight too (4 divisions below)?:dunno:Sam Langford started at lightweight. Does that mean he was a small middleweight?

[pug]

For potential fireworks- Kid Diamond

For being honest and fighting the best- Joel Casamayor

Something tells me that they wont be fighing Casa anytime soon though.

[Alabama_Man]

Sam Langford started at lightweight. Does that mean he was a small middleweight?

Stupid. When Langford was at Lightweight they were still doing same day weigh-ins. In today's sport he would've been a welterweight or jr. middleweight.

Fact, Pacquiao is a more truer featherweight.

[Free Ike]

I think he'd beat Manny Pacquiao. Manny is powerless if he can't hurt somebody. It would be a great fight. I hope he doesn't fight Casapeor. Casa should be frozen out. He stinks, he holds, he is dishonest, dirty, etc. I like both of them though. That is the only reason I don't want to see them fight.

[jarhead]

I wouldn't fight Casa if I was Juan. Even if he wins it won't be impressive and will be anything but a crowd pleaser. I'd fight another Diaz, pick one, and put it on a card with another top Mexican Matchup.

[Alabama_Man]

Diaz is good but I think he's going to be heavily overrated based on a win against sloppy, shot, no-heart Quitas.

I can't wait until his next fight against a solid guy, the betting odds should be primed for an economic windfall. :clap:

This reminds me of when Arce was beating guys like Rosendo Alvarez, and Makepula, good guys who were probably too long in the tooth and how everyone overrated him to the point he was a heavy betting favorite against Mijares.

[Haymaker]

I think Casamayor. He is the OFFICIAL champion of the division and has not lost in the RING.

As a manager, it is probably the best fight for him from a money-risk analysis perspective.

Casamayor would win an ugly elbowesque and headbuttesque UD, but I can see Juan winning by close MD too

[Azazel]

Lightweight is full of solid B class fighter ( they all have obvious flaw ) but I doubt there's a A class fighter in there ( maybe Guzman, but if he is, he should take Kastsidi with ease ). Juan vs Kid D. would be the best fight to be made at the moment, but I doubt Diaz people would make it.

[Rubio MHS]

Stupid. When Langford was at Lightweight they were still doing same day weigh-ins. In today's sport he would've been a welterweight or jr. middleweight.

Fact, Pacquiao is a more truer featherweight.In his prime, he was 180 pounds. Further, even when he did fight in the 150s, he had such a big punch that he frequently knocked out heavyweights. A fighter with that big a punch doesn't waste his time fighting welterweights.

[Alabama_Man]

In his prime, he was 180 pounds. Further, even when he did fight in the 150s, he had such a big punch that he frequently knocked out heavyweights. A fighter with that big a punch doesn't waste his time fighting welterweights.

Different era, different times. Fighting for the World "Colored" Heavyweight Title of the world and knocking out 180-200 pound heavyweights is different than fighting for the Heavyweight championship of the modern era.

Still, Langford is one of my favorite old time fighters from what I've read of him. He fought 10 years too long though, and ruined his physical health because of it. :old:

[IgiveUpImEricMoralesISuck]

He can't beat any of them. He's the great mexican hype. OMG, he beat a quitter :laughing:

Diaz has some man titties. He needs to stop eating so many damn tacos, eating tacos against better fighters then freitas will cost him. :laughing:

[Rubio MHS]

Different era, different times. Fighting for the World "Colored" Heavyweight Title of the world and knocking out 180-200 pound heavyweights is different than fighting for the Heavyweight championship of the modern era.

Still, Langford is one of my favorite old time fighters from what I've read of him. He fought 10 years too long though, and ruined his physical health because of it. :old:Don't pretend you know shit. Bill Tate was as big as Wladimir Klitschko. Sam McVey was 220. So was Jim Johnson. George Godfrey was fucking huge. So was Harry Wills. The guys holding the Colored World Heavyweight Championship were at least as good as the losers we have holding WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO titles.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Juan Diaz has already partially unified these trinkets at LW, he should fight Casamayor, or Julio Diaz to keep up what is started

[Alabama_Man]

Don't pretend you know shit. Bill Tate was as big as Wladimir Klitschko. Sam McVey was 220. So was Jim Johnson. George Godfrey was fucking huge. So was Harry Wills. The guys holding the Colored World Heavyweight Championship were at least as good as the losers we have holding WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO titles.

Yes, Bill Tate was a well conditioned athlete comparable to Wladimir. :laughing:

[Rubio MHS]

Yes, Bill Tate was a well conditioned athlete comparable to Wladimir. :laughing:What makes you think that Wlad could fight a 20-round fight the way Tate and Semen could?

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/tate-big-bill-2.jpg

[Alabama_Man]

What makes you think that Wlad could fight a 20-round fight the way Tate and Semen could?

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/tate-big-bill-2.jpg

Why would he need to fight 20 rounds with Tate? He would catch him in 1. Tate was a fucking bum. :rolleyes:

[Rubio MHS]

No more or less of a bum than Tommy Watson. Tate simply fought better fighters.

[Alabama_Man]

No more or less of a bum than Tommy Watson. Tate simply fought better fighters.

Tate was a fucking bum period. He only beat Langford when he was half blind and outweighed him by 50 pounds. Being big and fat doesn't make you a great fighter.

Tommy Watson at least fought Kid Choclate, Benny Sharkey, Cuthbert and LaBarba. That's a ridiculous statement to even compare the competition between the two. :rolleyes:

[Rubio MHS]

Tate was a fucking bum period. He only beat Langford when he was half blind and outweighed him by 50 pounds. Being big and fat doesn't make you a great fighter.

Tommy Watson at least fought Kid Choclate, Benny Sharkey, Cuthbert and LaBarba. That's a ridiculous statement to even compare the competition between the two. :rolleyes:Bill Tate fought the following Hall-of-Fame heavyweights. There's an asterix next to the fighters he beat:

Sam Langford*
Joe Jeanette
Harry Wills*
George Godfrey
Kid NorfolkHere are other top heavyweights he fought:

Battling Jim Johnson
Gunboat Smith*
Jack Thompson
Kid Cotton*
Tut Jackson*
Bearcat Wright
Seal HarrisYou're dumb to even think of saying that Watson fought better competition than Tate. He had two fights against Hall-of-Fame Fighters. Tate had 23!

[Alabama_Man]

Bill Tate fought the following Hall-of-Fame heavyweights. There's an asterix next to the fighters he beat:

Sam Langford*
Joe Jeanette
Harry Wills*
George Godfrey
Kid NorfolkHere are other top heavyweights he fought:

Battling Jim Johnson
Gunboat Smith*
Jack Thompson
Kid Cotton*
Tut Jackson*
Bearcat Wright
Seal HarrisYou're dumb to even think of saying that Watson fought better competition than Tate. He had two fights against Hall-of-Fame Fighters. Tate had 23!

That list is full of hobos. Cecil Harris was a "top" heavyweight? :laughing:

[Rubio MHS]

There are no holes in the first five names, and Tate had 23 fights against them, 23 fights against Hall-of-Fame heavyweights. In 1917, Jack Dempsey refused to fight Gunboat Smith, Sam Langford and Frank Moran. In that same year, Tate fought and beat two of them.

[Alabama_Man]

There are no holes in the first five names, and Tate had 23 fights against them, 23 fights against Hall-of-Fame heavyweights. In 1917, Jack Dempsey refused to fight Gunboat Smith, Sam Langford and Frank Moran. In that same year, Tate fought and beat two of them.

Shutup, no back tracking. You called Cecil Harris a "top heavyweight", your whole argument is shot.

[Rubio MHS]

He was Colored Heavyweight Champion of the World, and he beat Gaines and Clisby. That makes him a top heavyweight.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Juan Diaz against either of the other Diaz with belts

[IronDanLaw]

David Diaz fights Morales soon.

Id like to see Juan take on the winner of that(which i think will be Morales).

[jarhead]

David Diaz fights Morales soon.

Id like to see Juan take on the winner of that(which i think will be Morales).

when is that fight, should be decent. I'd want to see Juan fight the winner also, but if he got a fight with Julio Diaz and put it on the same card as a co-main event, well hell, that's like pie and chips! And seriously, who doesn't like pie and chips?:popcorn:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

If Pac gets his contract BS sorted out then Pac man.

[Rubio MHS]

If Pac gets his contract BS sorted out then Pac man.He knew that by signing with Arum, he wouldn't be able to take the big fights. It's his fault.

[IHATEJONES]

I think he'd beat Manny Pacquiao. Manny is powerless if he can't hurt somebody. It would be a great fight. I hope he doesn't fight Casapeor. Casa should be frozen out. He stinks, he holds, he is dishonest, dirty, etc. I like both of them though. That is the only reason I don't want to see them fight.

I see you finally figured out the "peor" doesn't have a "j" in it. It only took you four years.

[REEDsART]

I see you finally figured out the "peor" doesn't have a "j" in it. It only took you four years.Stupid IS as Stupid DOES...


REED:cool:

[Free Ike]

I see you finally figured out the "peor" doesn't have a "j" in it. It only took you four years.
Yeah, how stupid of me misspelling a word in Spanish that I hadn't seen in 10 years. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Hex-One]

Zahir Raheem- I think he deserves a shot! Alot of fighters like to avoid him because he is a very skilled fighter.

[valdosta]

Skilled at what? Dry humping his opponent? Raheem is god awfull to watch and lost a close fight to Freitas he don't deserve a title shot.

[Rubio MHS]

Raheem's overrated as a hugger. One fight, and he's branded for life, like Bonecrusher Smith after fighting Tyson.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

I wouldn't mind the clash of styles but the stink factor would produce more dislike towards Raheem, I'm not sure if Raheem could keep up with Diaz pace but I'd like to see if Raheem could make Diaz pay for trying to get inside close or just clinch

[valdosta]

He held Juarez a ton as well. Raheem dry humps a good bit when he fights decent fighters.

[valdosta]

I wouldn't mind the clash of styles but the stink factor would produce more dislike towards Raheem, I'm not sure if Raheem could keep up with Diaz pace but I'd like to see if Raheem could make Diaz pay for trying to get inside close or just clinch

He would just clinch. Diaz is way to strong for him. If he couldn't keep Diaz at a distance (which I doubt he could), he would hug the shit out of him.

[Rubio MHS]

He held Juarez a ton as well. Raheem dry humps a good bit when he fights decent fighters.I was mostly thinking of the Juarez fight.

[valdosta]

I was mostly thinking of the Juarez fight.

Haha, I was mostly thinking of the Freitas fight. Freitas held some to but not nearly as bad as Raheem.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Kid Diamond and Diaz would be a good fight....

hold up..

Diaz has to face his mandatory Prawet Singwangcha next :doh:

[valdosta]

Kid Diamond and Diaz would be a good fight....

hold up..

Diaz has to face his mandatory Prawet Singwangcha next :doh:

If the boxrec schedule is correct Singwacha is going to fight Jose Cotto. Good chance Singwacha losses that fight.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

If the boxrec schedule is correct Singwacha is going to fight Jose Cotto. Good chance Singwacha losses that fight.

Boxrec ranger :lol:

Yeah for sure I'd pick Jose to beat the Thai, I've seen a couple clips of his fights and I am reaallly not impressed

[pug]

Boxrec ranger :lol:

Yeah for sure I'd pick Jose to beat the Thai, I've seen a couple clips of his fights and I am reaallly not impressed
Cotto is fighting Prawet for the interim title which is likely to become a regualr title because it is rumored that Juan will become a super champion, whoa, Im tired from saying all of that:lol:

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Great, Super Champion of the WBO and WBA :rolleyes:

Not to be confused with "Champion Emeritus" status of the WBC :rolleyes:

The IBF is failure, but at least they don't have crap like Super Champion

[LATIN KING]

It's funny with Kellerman always pushing the ring magazine bullshit. Asking Diaz several times to fight "The Champion" Casamayor. Diaz said yes he amongst others. Then when Diaz mentioned the other guys Kellerman again pushed the issue with Casamayor. :popcorn:

Don King will probably have him fight one of the mandatories and then they will look for the winner of Morales/David Diaz.:popcorn:

[Rubio MHS]

It's funny with Kellerman always pushing the ring magazine bullshit. You have to wonder whether or not he was pushing Ring magazine's HBO-friendly Championship Policy in order to get an HBO contract, which is what he wanted more than anything.

[LATIN KING]

You have to wonder whether or not he was pushing Ring magazine's HBO-friendly Championship Policy in order to get an HBO contract, which is what he wanted more than anything.isnt' he already on board to replace Merchant? I thought it was a done deal:dunno:

[Double L]

Raheem's overrated as a hugger. One fight, and he's branded for life, like Bonecrusher Smith after fighting Tyson.

he humped Juarez too. trust me. he's a humper.

[Double L]

Diaz proved last night he's not "all" hype. Still, I think the first real puncher at 135 he faces could put an end to his run.

Let's not forget. Freitas never knocked anyone out at 135. And Chico took his best shots for 10 rounds.

Julio Diaz is a real puncher at 135 - harder than Freias, and qicker. He could possibly knock Juan out. it'd be a good fight. that's the fight i'd like to see get made.

[Rubio MHS]

isnt' he already on board to replace Merchant? I thought it was a done deal:dunno:That's the point.

[IronDanLaw]

when is that fight, should be decent. I'd want to see Juan fight the winner also, but if he got a fight with Julio Diaz and put it on the same card as a co-main event, well hell, that's like pie and chips! And seriously, who doesn't like pie and chips?:popcorn:
Its in August i think.

[Orthodox Crusader]

Juan Diaz vs Julio Diaz has PPV Potential @ this Point...


REED:cool:


You're just hoping its on HBO and the ensuing confusion uses up whats left of Larrys brainpower.

[StingerKarl]

He is probably going to have to fight a mandatory next in the summer, then another fight late in the year is what he told me.
I kind of think Morales may retire if he gets by David Diaz, but Juan against either one of those guys would be action packed, but I think he beats either guy.
I have been a fan of Casamayor's going on twenty years now, twenty years is a long time for a fighter.
Joel was World Amateur Champion when Juan was a baby.
That would be a helluva fight, but I agree that it won't happen soon.

[jarhead]

Juan fighting Morales or David would be a good fight and winnable. Juan fighting Casa is a bad matchup IMO. Even if he wins, it won't be impressive.

[StingerKarl]

Juan fighting Morales or David would be a good fight and winnable. Juan fighting Casa is a bad matchup IMO. Even if he wins, it won't be impressive.

I agree.
Casamayor is an outstanding fighter, very polished and very tough who has shown very little, if any, signs of slippage or pronounced deterioration of skills.

[jarhead]

a mandatory this summer is a good idea. keep him active in front of us. another unification fight for the later fight in the year would be perfect. Juan can clean up the abc belts in this division. Then get a decent money fight with Pac lined up. :cheer:

[Xplosive]

I agree.
Casamayor is an outstanding fighter, very polished and very tough who has shown very little, if any, signs of slippage or pronounced deterioration of skills.

Wow. If you cant tell the differance between the Casa of today, and the Casa of 4-5 years ago, then your blind as hell! Casa is past it, he's nowhere near as quick or as sharp as he once was. Hell, I think he was past it in the Castillo fight. I think you know this as well, your just hyping him so that when Juan beats him you can say how he beat a "prime" Casa.:rolleyes:

[Rubio MHS]

Wow. If you cant tell the differance between the Casa of today, and the Casa of 4-5 years ago, then your blind as hell! Casa is past it, he's nowhere near as quick or as sharp as he once was. Hell, I think he was past it in the Castillo fight. I think you know this as well, your just hyping him so that when Juan beats him you can say how he beat a "prime" Casa.:rolleyes:Agreed. People simply don't understand exactly how shot Corrales was.

[Xplosive]

Diaz proved last night he's not "all" hype. Still, I think the first real puncher at 135 he faces could put an end to his run.

Let's not forget. Freitas never knocked anyone out at 135. And Chico took his best shots for 10 rounds.

Julio Diaz is a real puncher at 135 - harder than Freias, and qicker. He could possibly knock Juan out. it'd be a good fight. that's the fight i'd like to see get made.

Julio Diaz is ass! Always has been, always will be. If the two Diaz's fight, I'm willing to sig bet you Juan kicks his ass.