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dymipepel
04-29-2007, 12:26 AM
That was a disgrace. Can Freitas purse be withheld? It's a clear pattern in his behavior and that's just unacceptable.

Azazel
04-29-2007, 12:30 AM
It was shamefull, but not blatant enough to justifly his purse being withold, but shamefull enough for him not to be on a big network card main event.

REEDsART
04-29-2007, 12:49 AM
N PARTICULAR,Freitas' Purse SHOULDN'T B withheld...ONLY Because NO Rules are Currently N Place,DISCOURAGING Fighters from QUITTING like Bithces...

"However", NEW Rules should B Implemented N Regards to How Much of an agREED upon Purse a Fighter will Receive,if/when .he WILLINGLY QUITS..

If U Need to Break it Down to ___% of your Purse After ___ Rounds,then So Be It...

But it's Time that Prizefighters KNOW AHEAD OF TIME that their agREED upon Money WILL Deteriorate,if/when they QUIT N a Fight...We could even Call it the "Bruce Seldon Clause"...

To Paraphrase Evander Holyfield,"People watch Boxing to See Guys Do Things that they Normally wouldn't Do Themselves"....

ANY COWARD or "Keyboard Warrior" could QUIT...There's NATHAN Exceptional about QUITTING


REED:nono:

Fighter
04-29-2007, 01:02 AM
I HONESTLY don't think so. The guy tried, sure not hard enough, but he did try. Up until the fifth, the fight was very COMPETITIVE and an ACTION packed fight.

The guy is DONE. We won't see Freitas in the ring again. He will run for office in his native Brazil.

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 01:06 AM
If U Need to Break it Down to ___% of your Purse After ___ Rounds,then So Be It...Great idea, moron. So, fighters would get paid less for knocking someone out?

REEDsART
04-29-2007, 01:15 AM
Great idea, moron. So, fighters would get paid less for knocking someone out?Uuuuuuuh,REED made it CLEAR that that Particular Clause should ONLY B Implemented if/when a Fighter QUITS...

REED More Carefully N the Future,BITTER Motherfucker...


REED:flip:

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 01:16 AM
Then fighters would flop on the ground instead of quitting. How would that improve things?

paboxing123
04-29-2007, 01:19 AM
I think he tryed hard he just couldnt take the ass whooping from baby bull. The thing that pist me off was him smiling and being rasied on his trainers sholders like he won. Thats the diffrence from fighters today and paulie they dont have the heart

REEDsART
04-29-2007, 01:22 AM
Then fighters would flop on the ground instead of quitting. How would that improve things?That's BETTER than FINISHING a Round,FOOLING the LIVE Audience,Only to QUIT on your STOOL...

& Let's B CLEAR....Freitas QUIT...Suarez TRIED to Talk him N 2 CONTINUING...Freitas DIDN'T Want to:nono: ...

If U Get Hit & FLOP on the Ground,that MIGHT Appear "Fishy",but it's BETTER than QUITTING on your Stool,when U Appear to B FINE....

Instead of DISagreeing just for the SAKE of it(like a PRICK), LISTEN To LOGIC,Motherfucker...


REED:cool:

REEDsART
04-29-2007, 01:24 AM
I think he tryed hard he just couldnt take the ass whooping from baby bull. The thing that pist me off was him smiling and being rasied on his trainers sholders like he won. Thats the diffrence from fighters today and paulie they dont have the heart

Yeah,that was VERY GAY...

REED has NEVER Seen a Guy QUIT,then CELEBRATE his Quitjob...


REED:dunno:

KaukipRrr
04-29-2007, 01:30 AM
Quitting is unacceptable, this is why Muhammed Ali will always be considered a bitch for QUITTING on his stool against Larry Holmes.

Muhammed Ali, is a bitch. :crafty:

pug
04-29-2007, 01:33 AM
Yeah,that was VERY GAY...

REED has NEVER Seen a Guy QUIT,then CELEBRATE his Quitjob...


REED:dunno:
Maybe it was just really a celebration of him going back into the manwhore biz

REEDsART
04-29-2007, 01:46 AM
Quitting is unacceptable, this is why Muhammed Ali will always be considered a bitch for QUITTING on his stool against Larry Holmes.

Muhammed Ali, is a bitch. :crafty::rolleyes:

Angelo DIDN'T Give Ali an Option...

He STOPPED the Fight WITHOUT Even ASKING Ali if he Wanted to Continue...

FAGS Like YOU Also Hold Frazier's "Stool Resignation" (N the "Thrilla N Manilla") AGAINST him,even though Frazier OPENLY ARGUED w/Eddie Futch to ALLOW the Fight to Continue...


REED:rolleyes:


ps. The Soooooner U STOP Being MAD @ the Boxing World that YOUR Favorites QUIT,the BETTER off U'll B...If U CAN'T C the Difference N Ali-Holmes & Tszyu-Hatton or Abdullaev-Cotto,then U're BLIND...

bigdawg
04-29-2007, 01:55 AM
Brotha Reed you are right on. As mentioned earlier on the phone I would have much rather had Fruitass take a then cover up and allow Diaz to flurry on him thus causing the ref to stop the fight. Then Fruitass can get all upset, small the ropes, hell he could even pound the ground ala DLH style. Atleast put up an act like didn't want the fight to be stopped. I would give him more props for that. But him quitting on the stole is a flat out punk ass bitch move. Holla 5000

mikE
04-29-2007, 02:12 AM
N PARTICULAR,Freitas' Purse SHOULDN'T B withheld...ONLY Because NO Rules are Currently N Place,DISCOURAGING Fighters from QUITTING like Bithces...

"However", NEW Rules should B Implemented N Regards to How Much of an agREED upon Purse a Fighter will Receive,if/when .he WILLINGLY QUITS..

If U Need to Break it Down to ___% of your Purse After ___ Rounds,then So Be It...

But it's Time that Prizefighters KNOW AHEAD OF TIME that their agREED upon Money WILL Deteriorate,if/when they QUIT N a Fight...We could even Call it the "Bruce Seldon Clause"...

To Paraphrase Evander Holyfield,"People watch Boxing to See Guys Do Things that they Normally wouldn't Do Themselves"....

ANY COWARD or "Keyboard Warrior" could QUIT...There's NATHAN Exceptional about QUITTING


REED:nono:

and any keyboard warrior can write a post like yours.

It's no one's place to take away their money if they quit because there's no way we can know exactly why it happened.

It's our place as fans to criticize, bitch, and scrutinize. It's our place to not spend money or time on someone we think quit if we so choose.

And yeah, I think Freitas quit this time and I think it was a blatant case of quitting.

mikE
04-29-2007, 02:14 AM
Yeah,that was VERY GAY...

REED has NEVER Seen a Guy QUIT,then CELEBRATE his Quitjob...


REED:dunno:

Nor have I and I would like to hear his explanation. The only thing I can think of is that he was just glad to get out of there alive after facing that monster-puncher Juan Diaz.

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 02:43 AM
Quitting is unacceptable, this is why Muhammed Ali will always be considered a bitch for QUITTING on his stool against Larry Holmes.

Muhammed Ali, is a bitch. :crafty:Um, Ali didn't quit against Holmes. His corner stopped it, and the press bitched at him for not protesting enough.

Tam Tam
04-29-2007, 02:48 AM
Tam on Fruity quitting again:

Yeah, I said jokingly (only half jokingly mind you) to a mate after the fight "I wish they had the following prop: Will Acelino Freitas quit vs Juan Diaz yes/no"

I'd have pounded the 'yes' option relentlessly. Its a shame, because he's an exciting fighter...but its a hard thing to respect. Quitting while being pummeled and knowing you can't win is one thing, but what I really dislike about both times Freitas has quit, is that its only happened after the tide has turned against him.

He accepts that he isn't a 12 round fighter so he comes out blazing to try and get a quick stoppage. When that doesn't work and he starts to eat a few...he begins to get disenchanted and hey-presto, he quits. Thats disgraceful and smells of later years Mike Tyson and Julio Cesar Chavez.

Its 'bully syndrome'. Everything is OK as long as you have the upper hand...but when thats gone? Well, why not just pack it in.

I hope he stays gone this time.

:warning:

Azazel
04-29-2007, 02:55 AM
Tam on Fruity quitting again:



:warning:
Pretty much, Freittas's the typical frontrunner

Kenny
04-29-2007, 03:09 AM
I think it was the best choice he could have done. What's more embarrassing, quitting or being KTFO by a boxer who is considered P4P less power. Being stop on your shield in the corner, while Diaz is pounding on you is one thing. I think one more big punch and Fritas would have been down for the 10 count. I thought the victim of his action was Diaz. Diaz could have gotten a KO win over a big name.

Ugotabe Kidding
04-29-2007, 03:17 AM
I simply can not understand you guys who bitch about someone quitting? Why should he have fought on? So you could see him end up injured?

Freitas did all he could there, he fought with everything he had. When he felt he couldn't win anymore, he confessed it and gave the other guy the victory. I do not see what is wrong with that. We had a good fight, we had a winner. If you want to see people get seriously injured for your own pleasure, I am sure you can download some war video somewhere

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 03:28 AM
It's more the way a fighter quits that pisses people off than if he quits. Robinson in the Maxim bout? He couldn't stand up. He nearly died. He had just collapsed in 100+degree heat - not knocked down, collapsed. What else could he have done? When a fighter quits when the momentum of the match is just starting to swing against his favor, like Golota against Grant, Freitas against Diaz or Vitali against Byrd, it pisses people off. True champions (which none of the three above were) try to survive long enough to launch a counterattack.

IgiveUpImEricMoralesISuck
04-29-2007, 03:34 AM
Wtf... on Juan diaz's record it doesn't even count as tko. It counts as the other guy quit on his stool. See, quiting is bullshit because we all know that he would have ended up on the canvas. And diaz would have gotten a ko... should be 17 kos on his record not 16... this bs

Ugotabe Kidding
04-29-2007, 03:37 AM
Wtf... on Juan diaz's record it doesn't even count as tko. It counts as the other guy quit on his stool. See, quiting is bullshit because we all know that he would have ended up on the canvas. And diaz would have gotten a ko... should be 17 kos on his record not 16... this bs

It does count as a TKO. It is not a decision win you know

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 03:50 AM
Boxrec notes three types of knockouts: KO (10-count, or not otherwise specified), TKO (stopped by the officials without a 10-count) or RTD (quit between rounds). Example:
<TABLE align=center><TBODY><TR><TD>2000-04-01 (http://www.boxrec.com/date_search.php?yyyy=2000&mm=04&dd=01)</TD><TD class=cs>244¼</TD><TD>Chris Byrd (http://www.boxrec.com/record004923.html)</TD><TD class=cs>210¾</TD><TD align=middle>30-1-0</TD><TD align=right><TABLE bgColor=white><TBODY><TR><CENTER><TD class=w></TD><TD class=l></TD><TD class=w></TD><TD class=w></TD><TD class=w></TD><TD class=w></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER></TD><TD>Estrel Convention Center, Berlin, Neukölln, Germany <TD class=rl>L</TD><TD align=middle>RTD</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD class=cr>http://static.boxrec.com/book-open.gif (http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:23661) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=cs colSpan=99>~ Referee: Genaro Rodriguez | Judge: Melvina Lathan 88-83 | Judge: Ruben M. Garcia Dr. 89-82 | Judge: Joachim Jacobsen 88-83 ~
~ WBO Heavyweight Title ~
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Ugotabe Kidding
04-29-2007, 05:05 AM
It's more the way a fighter quits that pisses people off than if he quits. Robinson in the Maxim bout? He couldn't stand up. He nearly died. He had just collapsed in 100+degree heat - not knocked down, collapsed. What else could he have done? When a fighter quits when the momentum of the match is just starting to swing against his favor, like Golota against Grant, Freitas against Diaz or Vitali against Byrd, it pisses people off. True champions (which none of the three above were) try to survive long enough to launch a counterattack.

So Duran, Morales, Arguello, Tyson etc were not true champions. Word

Tam Tam
04-29-2007, 05:24 AM
So Duran, Morales, Arguello, Tyson etc were not true champions. Word
Arguello and Morales are poor examples. They were throttled.

The other guys quit in fights they were competitive in.

ElTerriblee
04-29-2007, 05:41 AM
Tam on Fruity quitting again:

Yeah, I said jokingly (only half jokingly mind you) to a mate after the fight "I wish they had the following prop: Will Acelino Freitas quit vs Juan Diaz yes/no"

I'd have pounded the 'yes' option relentlessly. Its a shame, because he's an exciting fighter...but its a hard thing to respect. Quitting while being pummeled and knowing you can't win is one thing, but what I really dislike about both times Freitas has quit, is that its only happened after the tide has turned against him.

He accepts that he isn't a 12 round fighter so he comes out blazing to try and get a quick stoppage. When that doesn't work and he starts to eat a few...he begins to get disenchanted and hey-presto, he quits. Thats disgraceful and smells of later years Mike Tyson and Julio Cesar Chavez.

Its 'bully syndrome'. Everything is OK as long as you have the upper hand...but when thats gone? Well, why not just pack it in.

I hope he stays gone this time.


:warning:

Basically. He wasted so much energy on POWERpunches early, that had no hope of landing. Nobody has ever knocked somebody out through the guard with one punch. He should have tried a rope a dope, because that is the only time Diaz gave him the openings to land something significant. In the middle of the ring Freitas ate the jab of Diaz like a shot fighter.

Of course he was in no shape to win the fight after round 7, but after the Corrales debacle I thought he´d at least go out on a flurry against the ropes like Bigdawg suggested. On the other hand Diaz doesn´t punch hard enough to put him out for good, so it would have looked like another quit job to most anyway.

The most pathetic display was his victory lap. WTF was that all about, for a moment I thought Diaz must have broken his nose and couldn´t breathe.

The Genius
04-29-2007, 06:13 AM
I haven't seen the fight but is it possible he was raised on his trainers shoulders because it may be his last fight? It could have been a prelude to retirement. :dunno:

KaukipRrr
04-29-2007, 06:44 AM
Angelo DIDN'T Give Ali an Option...

He STOPPED the Fight WITHOUT Even ASKING Ali if he Wanted to Continue...

FAGS Like YOU Also Hold Frazier's "Stool Resignation" (N the "Thrilla N Manilla") AGAINST him,even though Frazier OPENLY ARGUED w/Eddie Futch to ALLOW the Fight to Continue...


REED


ps. The Soooooner U STOP Being MAD @ the Boxing World that YOUR Favorites QUIT,the BETTER off U'll B...If U CAN'T C the Difference N Ali-Holmes & Tszyu-Hatton or Abdullaev-Cotto,then U're BLIND...

:crafty: AHHH!!!...now you've invented little 'sub justifications' for "acceptable QUITTING" ,..Reed please,..this is typically self serving and hypocritical :crafty: ,..I realise nobody accepts the FACT that it was Johnny Lewis who took a look at Tszyu's wilted figure and knew that to go with his absolutely obliterated testicles, sunken eyes (later diagnosed as bleeding on the brain), a distortedly swollen jaw, was getting hit too often, and finally he determined he wasn't responding in a satisfactory manner as his long time trainer, so HIS CORNER/ TRAINER stopped the fight, please direct me to the probable 'made up' footage of Tszyu claiming he wanted the fight to be stopped, I'm betting this was just drummed in with RAW EMOTION from his haters..because I never saw or heard anything as such :nono: ,... Therefore it's not proportionarily different than Ali "QUITTING" on his stool against Holmes LATE in his career...., the REAL difference was..that YOU were a pent up and frustrated hater for years as he struck down quick, slick fighters whom YOU desperately hoped would school his '1 dimensional' EURO arse.. :crafty: The humiliating Zab fight and the second Mitchell fight registered,.. Token-gesture man,....oh yes they did...:crafty:

:crafty: and Sugar Ray Robinson ALSO "QUIT!" by the way,.."He could hardly walk..waaah waaah waaah!!" you all say,....but not many people are quick to jump to Wlad's defence against Brewster though?..:crafty:...it's just the exposing of various peoples agendas, the 'self service' criteria in defining the 'acceptable quitting' psuedo-standard :rolleyes:...

IgiveUpImEricMoralesISuck
04-29-2007, 06:46 AM
I picked freitas to knock Diaz out because I thought this freitas was showing up last night.

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Instead, we got the pussy freitas who quits like he did against corrales. :flip: Freitas

Ugotabe Kidding
04-29-2007, 07:03 AM
:crafty: AHHH!!!...now you've invented little 'sub justifications' for "acceptable QUITTING" ,..Reed please,..this is typically self serving and hypocritical :crafty: ,..I realise nobody accepts the FACT that it was Johnny Lewis who took a look at Tszyu's wilted figure and knew that to go with his absolutely obliterated testicles, sunken eyes (later diagnosed as bleeding on the brain), a distortedly swollen jaw, was getting hit too often, and finally he determined he wasn't responding in a satisfactory manner as his long time trainer, so HIS CORNER/ TRAINER stopped the fight, please direct me to the probable 'made up' footage of Tszyu claiming he wanted the fight to be stopped, I'm betting this was just drummed in with RAW EMOTION from his haters..because I never saw or heard anything as such :nono: ,... Therefore it's not proportionarily different than Ali "QUITTING" on his stool against Holmes LATE in his career...., the REAL difference was..that YOU were a pent up and frustrated hater for years as he struck down quick, slick fighters whom YOU desperately hoped would school his '1 dimensional' EURO arse.. :crafty: The humiliating Zab fight and the second Mitchell fight registered,.. Token-gesture man,....oh yes they did...:crafty:

:crafty: and Sugar Ray Robinson ALSO "QUIT!" by the way,.."He could hardly walk..waaah waaah waaah!!" you all say,....but not many people are quick to jump to Wlad's defence against Brewster though?..:crafty:...it's just the exposing of various peoples agendas, the 'self service' criteria in defining the 'acceptable quitting' psuedo-standard :rolleyes:...

I think you exaggerated a bit, but on principle I completely agree with you. Double standards are very visible

KaukipRrr
04-29-2007, 07:20 AM
I think you exaggerated a bit, but on principle I completely agree with you. Double standards are very visible

With my knottedly scrambled posts, deciphering the principle is all I can hope for from others..:cheer:

The Genius
04-29-2007, 08:55 AM
Johnny Lewis stopped that fight. Tszyu didn't protest so I guess that's the same as quitting? :dunno:

Orthodox Crusader
04-29-2007, 09:47 AM
:rolleyes:

Angelo DIDN'T Give Ali an Option...

He STOPPED the Fight WITHOUT Even ASKING Ali if he Wanted to Continue...

FAGS Like YOU Also Hold Frazier's "Stool Resignation" (N the "Thrilla N Manilla") AGAINST him,even though Frazier OPENLY ARGUED w/Eddie Futch to ALLOW the Fight to Continue...


REED:rolleyes:


ps. The Soooooner U STOP Being MAD @ the Boxing World that YOUR Favorites QUIT,the BETTER off U'll B...If U CAN'T C the Difference N Ali-Holmes & Tszyu-Hatton or Abdullaev-Cotto,then U're BLIND...


KauKip was being argumentative when he said Ali quit...but, just for the record, Frazier really didn't "openly argue" with Futch. He just sort of tried to get up and mumbled a few things while they held smelling salts under his nose. Its all moot. Neither Ali or Frazier were quit jobs along the line of Fruitass, who actually appears, to me, to be somewhat mentally unhinged. If I ever quit I would hope my seconds stood around me so that nobody could see me.:doh:

dymipepel
04-29-2007, 10:03 AM
I simply can not understand you guys who bitch about someone quitting?

Let me try to explain it to you, Ugo.
Let's say you bought tickets to Cotto-Abdullaev. The fight is advertised as 12-round main attraction. Quite reasonably, you expect to see 12 rounds of action or a knockout. But Abdullaev decides to quit, like a bitch in the 9-th round. So, basically, instead of 12-round fight (or a knockout) you paid your money to see, you've got your money only 9/12 worth (3/4, in other words).Don't you think you should be entitled to partial refund of your money from Abdullaev's purse? Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. But guess what? Abdullaev ran to Europe with his purse intact, despite the appaling quit job.
Same story with Freitas. It was advertised as a 12-round fight (or a KO). But Freitas deprived vieweres of their money by quitting. Therefore, part of his purse should be withhel and used to partially refund those, who got cheated by Freitas out of their 12-round tickets.

royyjonesjrp4pno1
04-29-2007, 11:44 AM
No way should a fighters purse be deducted or taken away. Thier are instances when a fighter has to quit.

Free Ike
04-29-2007, 01:56 PM
I am with UGO on this. Freitas shamelessly quit, but I never understood the foolish and shortsided psuedo-machismo that goes on online.He knew all that was coming was more punches and he couldn't win. I am not opposed to taking some of his purse though. I'd rather have fighters quit honorably. Just go out and cover up or flop and get counted out. I have no problems with people quitting if they know they can't win. This is not a gladitorial contest.I only clown asshole fighters like Duran/Chavez who act all tough but mail it in when they are getting throttled, but I'd rather them quit then get permanently injured.
One exception, Cory Spinks should fight to the death and lose.

Breeze
04-29-2007, 02:20 PM
What Freitas did was not honourable, but his purse should not be withheld. What's sad is that Freitas gave up his title literally without a fight.

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 04:14 PM
What Freitas did was not honourable, but his purse should not be withheld. What's sad is that Freitas gave up his title literally without a fight.I disagree. He tried to win the match and had a strategy; he simply wasn't mentally strong enough to stick with it. Just as some fighters aren't as physically strong as others, some fighters aren't as mentally strong as others.

That being said, I'd wager that Freitas has more mental strength and fortitude than the vast majority of posters on this shithole.

Kenny
04-29-2007, 04:30 PM
Fretas did quit, but I didn't see any less excitement. The boxers you can take money from are, boxer who's fights where fix. Fretas did his best, that’s all that matters to me. One of the reason I like watching boxing is seeing a boxer take their opponents heart. That’s what I saw here. It’s the same as watching a boxer get punch hard and for the rest of the fight their on survival mode. I rather watch a boxer fight as much as he can until he can’t take no more. At least the rounds he gave you were easy to watch. The only thing that pissed me off was them carrying Fretas after quitting. That shit was gay. One question to ask, if Burgos would have quit versus Darth would you have called him a quitter? If you say yes, I think boxers should quit more often. With that being said, Fretas will now retiree until Diaz moves up in weight.

dsimon3387
04-29-2007, 04:40 PM
I am with UGO on this. Freitas shamelessly quit, but I never understood the foolish and shortsided psuedo-machismo that goes on online.He knew all that was coming was more punches and he couldn't win. I am not opposed to taking some of his purse though. I'd rather have fighters quit honorably. Just go out and cover up or flop and get counted out. I have no problems with people quitting if they know they can't win. This is not a gladitorial contest.I only clown asshole fighters like Duran/Chavez who act all tough but mail it in when they are getting throttled, but I'd rather them quit then get permanently injured.
One exception, Cory Spinks should fight to the death and lose.

dsimon writes:

:clap: :clap: :clap: great post!

IHATEJONES
04-29-2007, 05:15 PM
Then fighters would flop on the ground instead of quitting. How would that improve things?

Yes, it would. I would've like to have seen Freitas quitting on the canvas like the bitch that he is, instead of just choosing not to continue and shamelessly being carried on somebody's shoulders.

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 05:16 PM
So, if Freitas had simply waited for the bell to ring, taken a knee, waited out the count and lost, you would've been happier?!?!?!?!

Mitchell Kane
04-29-2007, 05:31 PM
So, if Freitas had simply waited for the bell to ring, taken a knee, waited out the count and lost, you would've been happier?!?!?!?!

Only if he counts along with the ref, Navarro-style.

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 05:33 PM
Only if he counts along with the ref, Navarro-style.Emmanuel Burton did that once, too. He didn't even go down from a punch; in fact, the bell to end round 12 sounded, and he easily could've gotten up. He was simply so stoned that he forgot that he was supposed to take a dive.

Mitchell Kane
04-29-2007, 05:34 PM
Emmanuel Burton did that once, too. He didn't even go down from a punch; in fact, the bell to end round 12 sounded, and he easily could've gotten up. He was simply so stoned that he forgot that he was supposed to take a dive.

Never seen it, but then I've done my best to avoid watching him fight for years.

Orthodox Crusader
04-29-2007, 06:10 PM
"Pulling A Zoo".....how ironic that a guy who quit once..in a brutal fight at that- should become the by-word for quit jobs.

Where I think the problem is: the effete effeminate "look at me" manner in which Fruitass quit last night.

Yory Boy Campas is the king of quit jobs. He quit vs Vargas. He quit vs Santos. He quit vs Oscar. He was going to quit vs Tito but Tito decapitated him first. The thing about Campas was that he was always in a brutal dust up before he pulled out, and when he pulled out, he pulled out with little fanfare.

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 06:13 PM
"Pulling A Zoo".....how ironic that a guy who quit once..in a brutal fight at that- should become the by-word for quit jobs.The tougher a guy is when he quits, the bigger a deal it is. Commentators still say "no mas" every time a fighter turns away from his opponent and quits, even though Roberto Duran never said it.

Orthodox Crusader
04-29-2007, 06:15 PM
The tougher a guy is when he quits, the bigger a deal it is. Commentators still say "no mas" every time a fighter turns away from his opponent and quits, even though Roberto Duran never said it.


Zoo picked up SERIOUS physical damage in that fight. When the physical damage which you have sustained exceeds that which any normal fighter would be expected to sustain, much less weather, you have the right to pull out.

LATIN KING
04-29-2007, 11:13 PM
The tougher a guy is when he quits, the bigger a deal it is. Commentators still say "no mas" every time a fighter turns away from his opponent and quits, even though Roberto Duran never said it.yeah I saw an interview with Duran where he said the ref made that shit up about him saying "no mas".

He also said he was glad that ref eventually died cause he deserve to die for being a fucking liar.:laughing:

Free Ike
04-29-2007, 11:20 PM
"Pulling A Zoo".....how ironic that a guy who quit once..in a brutal fight at that- should become the by-word for quit jobs.

Where I think the problem is: the effete effeminate "look at me" manner in which Fruitass quit last night.

Yory Boy Campas is the king of quit jobs. He quit vs Vargas. He quit vs Santos. He quit vs Oscar. He was going to quit vs Tito but Tito decapitated him first. The thing about Campas was that he was always in a brutal dust up before he pulled out, and when he pulled out, he pulled out with little fanfare.
Jesse James Leija is the King of quitters. No one compares to him on the elite level.

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 11:21 PM
Jesse James Leija is the King of quitters. No one compares to him on the elite level.If Leija is "elite," then who isn't?

Free Ike
04-29-2007, 11:26 PM
If Leija is "elite," then who isn't?
True. He is a quitter for championship psuedo contenders:dunno: :dunno:

KaukipRrr
04-29-2007, 11:32 PM
"Pulling A Zoo".....how ironic that a guy who quit once..in a brutal fight at that- should become the by-word for quit jobs.

Where I think the problem is: the effete effeminate "look at me" manner in which Fruitass quit last night.

Yory Boy Campas is the king of quit jobs. He quit vs Vargas. He quit vs Santos. He quit vs Oscar. He was going to quit vs Tito but Tito decapitated him first. The thing about Campas was that he was always in a brutal dust up before he pulled out, and when he pulled out, he pulled out with little fanfare.

I'd prefer this form of abrupt quitting, over the form of quitting that entails failing to engage and running the clock out,.. ala,..Fraud Mayweather.

bigdawg
04-29-2007, 11:32 PM
Fuk that shit. Pussy ass Freitas went out like a bitch for the second time. When you choose to become a professional boxer you know deep down inside what could happen. You know that it only takes 1 shot and your ass could be killed. However never do you give up and quit. As being a former professional athlete that took big ass hits from cats that damn neared doubled my weight never thought about quitting. WHen I got hit which wasn't much all that did was make me wonna hit their ass back. I'm talken bout getting hit on the gridiron. I can never understand the mind set of a quitter. I would have much rather died on the football field then quit. Why because I knew what I was getting myself involved in. But hey that's me. I'm not a pussy like Freitas. And as a fan of the sport that I love quitting is unacceptable. In this brutal you are supposed to fight to the fuken end. Quitting is unacceptable and if we turn a blind eye to quitting then anyone and everyone will say fuk it ain't my day. So I'm just gonna quit. Get the fuk outta here with that pussified shit. I'll Holla 5000

Rubio MHS
04-29-2007, 11:33 PM
True. He is a quitter for championship psuedo contenders:dunno: :dunno:I don't know, there's still Yory Boy Campas.

LATIN KING
04-29-2007, 11:36 PM
Fuk that shit. Pussy ass Freitas went out like a bitch for the second time. When you choose to become a professional boxer you know deep down inside what could happen. You know that it only takes 1 shot and your ass could be killed. However never do you give up and quit. As being a former professional athlete that took big ass hits from cats that damn neared doubled my weight never thought about quitting. WHen I got hit which wasn't much all that did was make me wonna hit their ass back. I'm talken bout getting hit on the gridiron. I can never understand the mind set of a quitter. I would have much rather died on the football field then quit. Why because I knew what I was getting myself involved in. But hey that's me. I'm not a pussy like Freitas. And as a fan of the sport that I love quitting is unacceptable. In this brutal you are supposed to fight to the fuken end. Quitting is unacceptable and if we turn a blind eye to quitting then anyone and everyone will say fuk it ain't my day. So I'm just gonna quit. Get the fuk outta here with that pussified shit. I'll Holla 5000:clap:

KaukipRrr
04-29-2007, 11:45 PM
:clap:

:lol:

LATIN KING
04-29-2007, 11:46 PM
:lol:how old were you in that avatar picture? :tease:

KaukipRrr
04-29-2007, 11:57 PM
how old were you in that avatar picture? :tease:

It IS actually a personal referrence my clever little creature,..:clap:

:notallthere: But that in turn makes you quite a mystery, for I can't believe you could actually applaud that above post,..unless you were being sarcastic,....but I sense....it was a genuine acknowledgement......:notallthere: correct?

Double L
04-30-2007, 12:30 AM
What I wonder is how the hell Freitas didn't quit against Barrios.

pug
04-30-2007, 02:28 AM
What I wonder is how the hell Freitas didn't quit against Barrios. Only because Frietas thought it was sexy to see Barrios wipe his bloody face with Ref Jorge Alonzo's shirt and wanted to get more of it.