Who is the most powerful fighter around today?

[TKO]

For example how far up the divisions could PACMAN go and still be effective.
Or Marquez could he step up even further through the divisions.

[LATIN KING]

Marquez can still be sucessfull at 135 because he has skills and is smart in the ring.

Pacquiao needs his power and I doubt he can bring it at 135. He is done at 130:stir:

[Alabama_Man]

I agree though that Pacquiao is probably best at 130, he started off his career at light flyweight. :eek:

Fagquez could barely get it done at 130 versus old man Barrera and he still managed to get put down on all fours. Casamayor, Diaz, or Julio brutalize blockhead Faquez and end his career. :kick:

[LATIN KING]

I forgot Pacquiao can throw a right hand now. He might do good at 135 cause there has never been a two handed fighter before. :lol:

but he will probably be a crooked politician by then. :cheer:

[LATIN KING]

and let's not forget Barrera also knocked down the one trick pony in the first round.:popcorn:

[TKO]

Good points, but I was referrring to baby Marquez, how far could he go..? or is he done at super ban

[LATIN KING]

Good points, but I was referrring to baby Marquez, how far could he go..? or is he done at super banI can definately see him having sucess at 126, probably that's it. Not bad being a 3 division champ though.:cheer:

[valdosta]

Damn, this Latin King guy is obsessed.

[LATIN KING]

did I start this thread? a question was asked about Marquez and pacquiao, did you skip the first post of the thread? :popcorn:

[Alabama_Man]

and let's not forget Barrera also knocked down the one trick pony in the first round.:popcorn:

Stop trolling.

[TKO]

The thread is not only about those two guys...

[LATIN KING]

Stop trolling.change that sig you fag :laughing:

[MAXWELL]

A thread that mentions pacquiao or marquez doesnt feel complete w/out latin king and Alabama man posting on it hehe...

[Orthodox Crusader]

Oscar has the most power.

He can fight Floyd on Monday night, and promote him on Tuesday night.

Come to think of it, on May 5th, I think he'll be doing both at the same time.

FIX! FIX! FIX!

That said, Oscar TKO/KO 11 Flid.

[TKO]

Don’t be so cynical my Orthodox friend.

I too hope that Oscar teaches the pretty one a lesson, I am already planning my weekend around it.
Phase one, get rid of “her”..

Check

[Tam Tam]

P4P, I'm not sure if there is anyone 'stronger' than Vic Darchinyan @ 112.

[mexican wedding shirt]

I am stronger than Vic and I only weigh 90 pounds. I can pick up a mini cooper all by myself.

I am not a "professional fighter" but I am still a fighter. I fight peasants, and beat them.

Tam - is there any chance you are picking Vic because he is australian?

[Tam Tam]

I am stronger than Vic and I only weigh 90 pounds. I can pick up a mini cooper all by myself.

I am not a "professional fighter" but I am still a fighter. I fight peasants, and beat them.

Tam - is there any chance you are picking Vic because he is australian?
Darchinyan is NOT Australian :nono:

[mexican wedding shirt]

Well, sure he is an Arab, but more or less Australian.

By that rational, no Australians are Australians, simply a nice little gallimaufry of British criminals and aboriginies :D

[valdosta]

did I start this thread? a question was asked about Marquez and pacquiao, did you skip the first post of the thread? :popcorn:

You made 1 post, and then another and another. Praising JMM and talking shit about Manny. Typical. :doh: Not sure what you thought this thread had to do with JMM when the title was "WHO IS THE MOST POWERFULL FIGHTER AROUND TODAY". Yeah that was obviously talking about Rafael MArquez not JMM.You have an unhealthy obsession :slap:

[mikE]

There isn't any way to predict this.

For instance, three of the most powerful welters of the last 15 years (ever?) turned into seemingly average punchers at junior middlweight:
Quartey
Jose Luis Lopez
Mayorga

Others apparently not brining it up...Hatton, Freitas (suarez prime suspect, though), mago, rosendo alvarez...

[Erratic]

and let's not forget Barrera also knocked down the one trick pony in the first round.:popcorn:

:lol:

Yeah with his foot.

[jarhead]

IMO you almost have to exclude the HW from this thread. They can't carry their power to the next weight.

With that said. I am pretty sure Miranda could take his power and be effective most likely up to LTHW. He's a bit of a one trick pony as well, but he could take his power up with him.

[jaws1216]

IMO you almost have to exclude the HW from this thread. They can't carry their power to the next weight.

With that said. I am pretty sure Miranda could take his power and be effective most likely up to LTHW. He's a bit of a one trick pony as well, but he could take his power up with him.

amen

[steve_dave]

amen

:lol: Miranda's power is so over-rated.

[steve_dave]

did I start this thread? a question was asked about Marquez and pacquiao, did you skip the first post of the thread? :popcorn:

He was talking about Rafa Marquez.

[jarhead]

:lol: Miranda's power is so over-rated. a bit over-rated yes, but could he still bang with the LTHW's? I think so.

[steve_dave]

a bit over-rated yes, but could he still bang with the LTHW's? I think so.

I'm 100% sure he could not.

[jaws1216]

I'm 100% sure he could not.

the false is strong with you

[*Z*]

change that sig you fag :laughing:

You need to change yours dude. I am sick of looking at who ever that bitch is. What are you? Her PR guy? Who is that anyway?

[*Z*]

the false is strong with you

If he was THAT big a puncher he would not have a loss on his record. How is such a huge puncher going to let a guy with a broken jaw make it 12 rounds? He can't hit that hard really.

[jaws1216]

If he was THAT big a puncher he would not have a loss on his record. How is such a huge puncher going to let a guy with a broken jaw make it 12 rounds? He can't hit that hard really.

he broke the dudes jaw, u just made my case for me

[steve_dave]

Miranda would get killed at light heavyweight. You guys all have Mayorga syndrome... except Mayorga actually has a win over a top guy.

[Anthony]

Well, sure he is an Arab, but more or less Australian.

By that rational, no Australians are Australians, simply a nice little gallimaufry of British criminals and aboriginies :DIsnt he armenian?

[Rubio MHS]

If he was THAT big a puncher he would not have a loss on his record.That's the dumbest thing I've read in - literally - days. Most of the biggest punchers are so reliant on their power that they don't become well-rounded fighters. Shavers, Satterfield, Julian Jackson, Foreman - they all have losses on their records.

[LATIN KING]

You need to change yours dude. I am sick of looking at who ever that bitch is. What are you? Her PR guy? Who is that anyway?her name is Heloisa a singer. This is the first time I see a dude complaint about seeing a Brazilian Godess. WTF is wrong with you? :doh: :notallthere:

[pug]

That's the dumbest thing I've read in - literally - days. Most of the biggest punchers are so reliant on their power that they don't become well-rounded fighters. Shavers, Satterfield, Julian Jackson, Foreman - they all have losses on their records. And they all fought great fighters and most of all of their losses were by KO to great fighters (not talking about old Foreman) because they went out to win by KO or go out on their backs in the crunch, Miranda could have done ALOT more.
Do you honestly think that Julian Jackson, McClellan, Hearns or a guy like Hagler would have fought Abraham like that late in the fight?
They would have been on Arthur like a Lion on a wounded wildabeast.

[KaukipRrr]

I'm 100% sure he could not.

Miranda's chin would SHATTER at 175,..

[KaukipRrr]

her name is Heloisa a singer. This is the first time I see a dude complaint about seeing a Brazilian Godess. WTF is wrong with you? :doh: :notallthere:

Just take it down, stop being silly, and come out of the closet the way JMM did. :crafty:

[*Z*]

That's the dumbest thing I've read in - literally - days. Most of the biggest punchers are so reliant on their power that they don't become well-rounded fighters. Shavers, Satterfield, Julian Jackson, Foreman - they all have losses on their records.

I was referring to a specific fight and you know exactly the one I'm talking about. If he was such a huge puncher Abraham would not have taken many flush shots from Miranda to his jaw that was destroyed.

Seriously, Miranda is the new Mayorga.

[*Z*]

her name is Heloisa a singer. This is the first time I see a dude complaint about seeing a Brazilian Godess. WTF is wrong with you? :doh: :notallthere:

I think one small pic would have been sufficient. I just see your username and think your a girl, thats all.

[pug]

I was referring to a specific fight and you know exactly the one I'm talking about. If he was such a huge puncher Abraham would not have taken many flush shots from Miranda to his jaw that was destroyed.

Seriously, Miranda is the new Mayorga.
At least Mayorga was fun and unpredictable especially at press confrences, Miranda is just annoying imho.

[jarhead]

I thought this thread was about who's power could follow with them the best into above weight classes? I never said Miranda could beat LTHW's. I said he could bang with them. comparing Miranda to Mayorga is right on the money. Mayorga had great power too. Both are one trick ponies. I don't think Miranda is all that but he does have good power and he could take it up and hurt guys at 168 and 175:popcorn:

[Rubio MHS]

And they all fought great fighters and most of all of their losses were by KO to great fighters (not talking about old Foreman) because they went out to win by KO or go out on their backs in the crunch, Miranda could have done ALOT more.Bob Stallings, Ron Standler and Tex Cobb were great heavyweights?!?!?!!?!? Doc Henderson, Wesbury Bascum, Sam Baroudi, Albert Johnson and Bob Foxworth were great light heavyweights?

Shavers and Satterfield are both continually ranked among the top 10 or 20 hitters of all time, but they lost to shitty-ass fighters. Your original post was retarded.

[*Z*]

At least Mayorga was fun and unpredictable especially at press confrences, Miranda is just annoying imho.

Mayorga was ghetto as hell, he was just brutal in his shit talk and never claimed to be the best fighter on earth . Miranda actually thinks he is a skilled fighter. He's alright, but the guy is getting stopped soon with his shitty ass defense.

[Rubio MHS]

The most powerful fighter I've ever seen was Juan Manuel Marquez. I saw him in the bathroom once, and everybody stood 10 feet away from him. He pissed so powerfully that everything within five feet of him got soaked in urine. True story.

[Alabama_Man]

her name is Heloisa a singer. This is the first time I see a dude complaint about seeing a Brazilian Godess. WTF is wrong with you? :doh: :notallthere:

She's pretty cute but she looks like the kind of chick who would get super fat when she has a couple of kids. :popcorn:

[*Z*]

She's pretty cute but she looks like the kind of chick who would get super fat when she has a couple of kids. :popcorn:

So you're saying she looks Mexican? :lol:

[Alabama_Man]

So you're saying she looks Mexican? :lol:

:eeeek:

:clap:

[pug]

Bob Stallings, Ron Standler and Tex Cobb were great heavyweights?!?!?!!?!? Doc Henderson, Wesbury Bascum, Sam Baroudi, Albert Johnson and Bob Foxworth were great light heavyweights?


Hold up Wiki Warrior, I said most, you had to throw Satterfield in the mix?
And if my last post was retarded about all the hardest hitting middles not choking like a bitch against Abraham and being on him and going for the KO late then why dont you go ahead and give me your wikitheory.

[Rubio MHS]

Hold up Wiki Warrior, I said most, you had to throw Satterfield in the mix?
And if my last post was retarded about all the hardest hitting middles not choking like a bitch against Abraham and being on him and going for the KO late then why dont you go ahead and give me your wikitheory.Satterfield was one of the biggest-hitting fighters of all time, and he lost a-plenty. Buddy Baer was considered the biggest puncher of his era, and he had tons of shitty losses.

[Dollar-Fifty78]

he broke the dudes jaw, u just made my case for me
You don't have to hit hard in order to break someone's jaw.

[Rubio MHS]

You don't have to hit hard in order to break someone's jaw.At the same time, you're not likely to break someone's jaw if you can't punch.

[steve_dave]

jaws = pwned.

[Trplsec]

I'll go out on a limb and say Paul Williams.. At 6'1" with an 82 inch reach and a Tommy Hearns frame, Williams gets great leverage on his shots. He will probably be able to bang with guys at 175 someday..

[Rubio MHS]

I'll go out on a limb and say Paul Williams.. At 6'1" with an 82 inch reach and a Tommy Hearns frame, Williams gets great leverage on his shots. He will probably be able to bang with guys at 175 someday..http://www.thecatgallery.com/images/LaughingKitten-2.JPG

You made the kitten laugh!

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Nice sig :clap:

[Bruce]

The most powerful fighter I've ever seen was Juan Manuel Marquez. I saw him in the bathroom once, and everybody stood 10 feet away from him. He pissed so powerfully that everything within five feet of him got soaked in urine. True story.

:lol: :lol:
this thread is cracking me up bad.

[jarhead]

I'll go out on a limb and say Paul Williams.. At 6'1" with an 82 inch reach and a Tommy Hearns frame, Williams gets great leverage on his shots. He will probably be able to bang with guys at 175 someday..

Very good post. Not so sure 175 but easily 160 to 168.:clap:

[slystaff]

I vote for Wladimir Klitschko! He's the most powerful fighter in boxing today.

I dunno about this Marquez going up in weight nonsense....I wont even give that a comment.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

I agree though that Pacquiao is probably best at 130, he started off his career at light flyweight. :eek:

Alabama Simes.
:lol: