SHOBOX WEIGH-IN (PHOTOS) CHAMBERS-GUINN

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SHOBOX WEIGH-IN (PHOTOS) CHAMBERS-GUINN ( )
Undefeated rising heavyweight prospect "Fast" Eddie Chambers (L) of Philadelphia weighed in at 214 pounds on Thursday. The 25-year-old Chambers (28-0, 16 ko's) will fight his toughest opponent to date when he meets tested veteran heavyweight Dominick "The Southern Disaster" Guinn of Houston, who weighed 222 pounds, in a 10-round bout in the main event of Friday's ShoBox: The New Generation (SHOWTIME, 11 p.m. ET/PT) from the Pearl Theatre at Palms Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas.

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[LATIN KING]

another crossroads fight for Guinn?:lol:

[Matchup_Analyzer]

I got Chambers via decision, Guinn was at one time touted as being the savior of the HW division

[ILLUMINATI]

Guinn can win this....but after a few wins, he is prime for another letdown...


Eddie Chambers by UD....

[Rubio MHS]

I hate to say it, but I like crappy heavyweights better than I like top heavyweights. My faves:

Michael Grant: I went to college with him.
Al Cole: When asked why he was moving up to heavyweight, he said, "Lou Savarese got to fight George Foreman."
Dominick Guinn: Every now and then, his combos do look spectacular.
Corrie Sanders: Best 3-round fighter since Mike Tyson.
Corey Sanders: Because he sucks.
Mike Tyson: The most exciting crap heavyweight eva'!
Evander Holyfield: Second to Tyson, but he wins bouts now and then.
Oliver McCall: He's one win away from being back in the top 20.
Lou Savarese: While MMA fighters spend their whole lives dedicating themselves to their art, only to make $3000 on some UFC pay-per-view, Savarese totally sucked, yet he made more than an entire UFC pay-per-view purse.
Davarryl Williamson: When Wlad sued Chris Byrd for fighting Williams instead of him, Williamson said, "okay, why don't we have a rematch for the vacant #1 spot?" Wlad turned even whiter, and lost the case.

[pug]

Guinn looked AWESOME preparing for this fight, this by far is the best camp I ever seen him in, bar none.



I think he will win












I hope :doh:

[Ugotabe Kidding]

"I know this will be the final opportunity for me. This time I am serious"

- Guinn after losing this one and fighting some new scrub

[Double L]

Why doesn't Showtime have any fights on Saturday. Is it not the first Saturday of the month?

[steve_dave]

Why doesn't Showtime have any fights on Saturday. Is it not the first Saturday of the month?

Does this question really need to be asked?

Look who they would be competing with. :lol:

[ElTerriblee]

another crossroads fight for Guinn?:lol:

As often as he crossed roads, you´d figure he was run over by a bus by now, especially since he´d probably be too lazy to move out of the way.

[Jake]

I hate to say it, but I like crappy heavyweights better than I like top heavyweights. My faves:

Michael Grant: I went to college with him.
Al Cole: When asked why he was moving up to heavyweight, he said, "Lou Savarese got to fight George Foreman."
Dominick Guinn: Every now and then, his combos do look spectacular.
Corrie Sanders: Best 3-round fighter since Mike Tyson.
Corey Sanders: Because he sucks.
Mike Tyson: The most exciting crap heavyweight eva'!
Evander Holyfield: Second to Tyson, but he wins bouts now and then.
Oliver McCall: He's one win away from being back in the top 20.
Lou Savarese: While MMA fighters spend their whole lives dedicating themselves to their art, only to make $3000 on some UFC pay-per-view, Savarese totally sucked, yet he made more than an entire UFC pay-per-view purse.
Davarryl Williamson: When Wlad sued Chris Byrd for fighting Williams instead of him, Williamson said, "okay, why don't we have a rematch for the vacant #1 spot?" Wlad turned even whiter, and lost the case.
Eaner and I were talking about this yesterday, how we thought we were the last two long-suffering diehard Guinn fans on the planet. Not sure why I'm a fan of his, as I usually detest fighters of his style. But for some reason, he's always been right there with Lamon Brewster as my favorite heavyweight.

I guess it's my affinity for watching train wrecks - as far as Guinn goes anyway.

[steve_dave]

Eaner and I were talking about this yesterday, how we thought we were the last two long-suffering diehard Guinn fans on the planet. Not sure why I'm a fan of his, as I usually detest fighters of his style. But for some reason, he's always been right there with Lamon Brewster as my favorite heavyweight.

I guess it's my affinity for watching train wrecks - as far as Guinn goes anyway.

:lol: My father and I were both huge on Guinn... I remember being really disapointed when he lost to Barrett... and again when he lost to SL. Since, I've stopped caring.

[StingerKarl]

I have to go with pug here, Guinn looked to be in tremendous condition and very confident when I saw him last work in the gym, and at Lou Savareses' fight last month.
I tried to get him to talk some technique with me, in particular setting up the right hand for Chambers, and he replied "I'm gonna do it all."
He's in shape, I know that much and included some photos of him sparring when I did my report on my former website.

[Free Ike]

Win or lose, Guinn is going nowhere and I can't stand him. The guy just is not a fighter. The fact that he can fight doesn't mean he OUGHT to fight. The guy doesn't have the mentality of a fighter. He is tough. He has taken some beating and refused to quit, but he just has no fight in him. He never fights back. The guy fights like Hopkins. He acts as if they will deduct 1000 dollars of his purse per punch thrown.

[BoxFan]

Who gives a fuck about these 2 fighters...Chris is the main fight tonight.:bears:

[StingerKarl]

Is anyone gonna do the blow by blow?
First up is Chris vs Malcolm Tann.
Chris was a real good amateur, but I don't know as a pro.

[jaws1216]

Is anyone gonna do the blow by blow?
First up is Chris vs Malcolm Tann.
Chris was a real good amateur, but I don't know as a pro.

damn west coast...ill have a rbr 3 hours from now if need be.....yeah Karl u might as well do it if u can:lol:

[StingerKarl]

Ok, I will give it a shot

[StingerKarl]

It's allChris throught he first two rounds as he shook up Tann with winging rights, but he really needs to do his homework on the situp table, though.

[StingerKarl]

It's all Chris but Tann got in a couple of short shots that round.
If I were in charge of training Chris I would have him doing 30 minutes of upper and lower body isometrics 5 days a week.

[StingerKarl]

Chris KO'd Tann in round eight, looked sharp

[ElTerriblee]

Impressive win for Arreola, put himin with Chambers and you have a real Shobox main event.

[ElTerriblee]

Sometimes I think Boxing is run by a bunch of clowns. Have you ever seen two NFL, NBA or football teams wear the same jerseys in a game? Yet here they are both wearing the exact same black and red trunks. :notallthere: :notallthere:

[StingerKarl]

Impressive win for Arreola, put himin with Chambers and you have a real Shobox main event.

AgREED.

[ILLUMINATI]

These guys might not be going anywhere career wise, but they are two very SKILLED heavyweights.....

[StingerKarl]

It is about even, IMO.

[ILLUMINATI]

No..really Guinn take your time...:rolleyes: ..you have all fucking day.

[steve_dave]

Chambers UD. Two judges had in a shutout.

[ElTerriblee]

97-93 Chambers seems accurate, 100-90 :notallthere: :notallthere: :notallthere:

Some things never change. :lol:

[Nobleart]

Adelaide Byrd turns in another stellar scorecard. :lol:

[ElTerriblee]

Chambers UD. Two judges had in a shutout.

It was 97-93 twice.

[steve_dave]

It was 97-93 twice.

Right, my bad.

[Tam Tam]

Fans always say to me "This is why women should never judge a fight". I take it further. I see the crap novels they write. The pathetic poems they 'craft'. If women were never given a pen, would this problem be fixed? Maybe 50 years ago, but computers changed all that.

No. Women should never be educated. Without education they wouldn't BE @ ringside fucking up scorecards, nor would they be flooding my bookstore with trash, or my major with soppy emo bullshit poetry.

Fuck women.

[Free Ike]

Fans always say to me "This is why women should never judge a fight". I take it further. I see the crap novels they write. The pathetic poems they 'craft'. If women were never given a pen, would this problem be fixed? Maybe 50 years ago, but computers changed all that.

No. Women should never be educated. Without education they wouldn't BE @ ringside fucking up scorecards, nor would they be flooding my bookstore with trash, or my major with soppy emo bullshit poetry.

Fuck women.
I agree in spirit. I don't hate women. You sound like a guy who hits on 100 women and gets rejected 99 times. Women are just as smart as men in the abstract, but who cares. If I want to talk about sports, I talk to my male friends. I have nothing to talk about with a women. I really want her to moan and let me plow her. Without the sexual element, I wouldn't even speak to a women.


AND GUINN IS TRASH.

[Tam Tam]

I agree in spirit. I don't hate women. You sound like a guy who hits on 100 women and gets rejected 99 times. Women are just as smart as men in the abstract, but who cares. If I want to talk about sports, I talk to my male friends. I have nothing to talk about with a women. I really want her to moan and let me plow her. Without the sexual element, I wouldn't even speak to a women.

Sounds are deceptive, especially if there is no line of sight.

You've articulated a response someway off to the left of my original point, but its not far enough removed so that there are no points to be shared.

Women are as smart as men, but thats not the point. If they were not given the same rights to free education as men, it would remove that possibility of equality. I'd go as far to ban women from even stepping foot into a bookstore, so they couldn't subvert the true reasoning behind the ban on education.

[Free Ike]

Sounds are deceptive, especially if there is no line of sight.

You've articulated a response someway off to the left of my original point, but its not far enough removed so that there are no points to be shared.

Women are as smart as men, but thats not the point. If they were not given the same rights to free education as men, it would remove that possibility of equality. I'd go as far to ban women from even stepping foot into a bookstore, so they couldn't subvert the true reasoning behind the ban on education.
You should convert to Islam. Yeah, Jaws has told me numerous times I am a caveman. I guess I am making an academic point. I think women are just as smart as us, but really they just need to give up their vaginas. That is all I care about. I guess even when a chick is giving it up, I don't want them to speak very much or loudly. I just want to pound them. I think women should be cloned but all non-sexual parts of their brains should be removed, except the brain stem and ability to move. Their essence is their liquid jelly center. Without that, there is no reason for them to exist.

[Tam Tam]

You should convert to Islam. Yeah, Jaws has told me numerous times I am a caveman. I guess I am making an academic point. I think women are just as smart as us, but really they just need to give up their vaginas. That is all I care about. I guess even when a chick is giving it up, I don't want them to speak very much or loudly. I just want to pound them. I think women should be cloned but all non-sexual parts of their brains should be removed, except the brain stem and ability to move. Their essence is their liquid jelly center. Without that, there is no reason for them to exist.
I sense a great Sartre experience in your past.

[Free Ike]

I sense a great Sartre experience in your past.
i DON'T understand. I read "no exit" and that's it. I actually liked it but that is the extent of my Sartre reading. I like Existentialism. I generally detest the French and I hate Camus something fierce. He wrote like a spoiled, uneducated teenager. I guess women full fill a predatory urge I have as a man. I like trying to hump them and getting them to willingly do so, but after that, I can't really hold much interest.

[Tam Tam]

i DON'T understand. I read "no exit" and that's it. I actually liked it but that is the extent of my Sartre reading. I like Existentialism. I generally detest the French and I hate Camus something fierce. He wrote like a spoiled, uneducated teenager. I guess women full fill a predatory urge I have as a man. I like trying to hump them and getting them to willingly do so, but after that, I can't really hold much interest.
I never cared much for Camus either and to be honest, I like a few of the concepts of Existentialism too. You short changed yourself by only reading 'No Exit" though. I've always thought of that as a low point in his career.

Nausea is a great read.

[Rubio MHS]

People who read No Exit and The Stranger and think they know something about Existentialism are idiots. The best place to start is Kierkegaard, or perhaps even Crime and Punishment.

[Tam Tam]

People who read No Exit and The Stranger and think they know something about Existentialism are idiots. The best place to start is Kierkegaard, or perhaps even Crime and Punishment.
Keirkegaard had his idea's developed further though. I understand your point about starting at the beginning (im guessing thats what it is anywho), but Sartre's evolution of the idea suits my line of thinking a whole lot more.

Did you like Nausea? Honest question.

[Free Ike]

People who read No Exit and The Stranger and think they know something about Existentialism are idiots. The best place to start is Kierkegaard, or perhaps even Crime and Punishment.
I read them. Kierkegaard was a piss poor existentialist. I never understood how he justified his Christianity. I thought he was very weak. I hope you weren't directing your comment at me. All I said is I only read the one story from Satre. I didn't say that was the extent of my reading. Of course, you couldn't hit logic if it were the broadside of a barn.

[Nobleart]

I see the Knights of The Round Cunt Table have all gathered in one place tonight. Now we just need Alabama Man to throw in his 67 1/2 cents. :bears:

[Free Ike]

I see the Knights of The Round Cunt Table have all gathered in one place tonight. Now we just need Alabama Man to throw in his 67 1/2 cents. :bears:
Glad that the King of the cunts came to comment. BTW, you need to work on your insults towardsme. Your calling me a cunt, was half filled with respect, even admiration. I want you dead. You shouldn't enjoy me at all.

[Nobleart]

Glad that the King of the cunts came to comment. BTW, you need to work on your insults towardsme. Your calling me a cunt, was half filled with respect, even admiration. I want you dead. You shouldn't enjoy me at all.

You don't want me dead. Who would you pay your tithes to if I wasn't around anymore? :dunno:

[Tam Tam]

You don't like me anymore, Noble?

[Rubio MHS]

Did you like Nausea? Honest question.No. I never finished it. One day I sat down and read 60 pages, but then I couldn't find it for a month.

[Nobleart]

You don't like me anymore, Noble?

Of course I do. :nono:

[Black Market Baby]

you guys have "mommy" issues.

[StingerKarl]

I thought Guinn had a real shot here, but he didn't move his hands enough again.
He is a nice guy and was a real good heavyweight at one point, and I'd hate to see him end up as a trialhorse, but that is the direction he is heading in.

[whiskey]

I thought Guinn had a real shot here, but he didn't move his hands enough again.
He is a nice guy and was a real good heavyweight at one point, and I'd hate to see him end up as a trialhorse, but that is the direction he is heading in.

Heading in? He's already there.

[Rubio MHS]

No, a trialhorse like "Bigfoot" Martin or something. Guinn did beat Audley Harrison and Zuri Lawrence. True trialhorses don't win even those types of fights.

[Mitchell Kane]

Heading in? He's already there.

Exactly. Guinn isn't going downward, he's just being exposed as he continues to fight more quality opponents.

Certain commentators took a couple performances against rather weak opposition - at the time, and even moreso now - and started making predictions/proclamations about how good he was/could be based on very little evidence.

He's never been a great fighter. All it took were wins over Michael Grant and Duncan Dokiwari to sell some people on him as the next heir.

Manny Steward on HBO was really what started the over-rating. Steward was much newer in his commentary role, so people took his words/opinions on fighters more seriously then than they do now (as he's revealed himself as something of a shill).

Those two fights simply weren't a good enough or deep enough sample size to really evaluate how good of a fighter he was/is/could be.

Now that we've all seen him in against fighters from all over the spectrum - Toney, Liakhovich, Thompson, Barrett, Chambers, Harrison, Lawrence, Ahunanya, et al - it's been just revealed the level of fighter he really is.

[StingerKarl]

No, a trialhorse like "Bigfoot" Martin or something. Guinn did beat Audley Harrison and Zuri Lawrence. True trialhorses don't win even those types of fights.

I agree..
Guinn is tough and can take a punch, and that isn't good healthwise down the long road for a heavyweight that can absorb punishment.
He also spars almost daily as well at Savannah Gym and that combined with several hundred amateur fights I beleive has taken its toll on the guy, and I'd like to see him bow out of the racket and move on with his life, but he will probably stick around for years like they all do.

[Rubio MHS]

I never understood all the hate Guinn gets. Most of it comes from people who can't notice anything less obvious than the fact that Guinn isn't a top-10 fighter.

[Mitchell Kane]

I never understood all the hate Guinn gets. Most of it comes from people who can't notice anything less obvious than the fact that Guinn isn't a top-10 fighter.

I don't hate him Guinn, I think he's a good trial horse for the division and he's certainly willing to play the part. But that's all he is...yet he's the subject of more threads than a number of heavyweights who are significantly better and much more accomplished.

He is a limited fighter who is a victim of the hype he recieved on HBO - and subsequent talking heads who piggy-backed the network - and the internet.