Pound for pound my arsehole.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Since the first fight with Shane at the staples center, I think it's fair to say that Oscar has slowed a fair bit.

He still has decent handspeed, timing, and combos. But damn his footspeed and balance is terrible now, and he can't pull the trigger like he used to. Despite blasting mayorga out of there, I still noticed this in the mayo fight.

Now at the time and on subsequent viewings I scored that first Mosley fight 8 to 4 for shane. I think shane beat him DECISIVELY. He outboxed him, outmanoeuvered him, outpunched him, and rattled him a few times, and was aggressive enough too. After an even first 6 rounds mosley just stepped it up and whupped oscar.

Floyd couldn't do that with an old, slow oscar. The pre forrest mosley had a greater claim to be the pound for pound champ than floyd does.

That version of mosley would have beaten the shit out of floyd, shit I would even give mosley a good chance NOW to beat floyd.

I believe pacman to be the best pound for pound. He lost to Morales? Sure he did, but morales is great, and fought excellently that night. And he beat marquez, the draw was bullshit. Better to lose to Morales than Castillo in the first fight.

And when it came to the rematch and rubber match, look what happened. Those are what you call decisive victories, not this safety first pot shotting bullshit, one punch at a time.

If pacman was bigger and started his career as a 130 pounder like floyd, rather than a flyweight, and they met at welterweight - I'd pick pacman to beat the fuck out of floyd.

Pacman is the best P4P, then Winky, then Floyd.

If floyd was the best P4P, quite simply, he would have done a fuck load better than he just did against a slow, 34 year old oscar. That would be like pacman only doing this well against el terrible in the 3rd fight.

[Ugotabe Kidding]

P4P is stupid

[Rubio MHS]

pound my arseholeNew sig.

[mexican wedding shirt]

:lol:

[Attraction]

marquez thought pac a lesson.

floyd beat dlh no controversy. better fighter. and floyd came into the ring at 148! could hatton beat dlh?

[Orthodox Crusader]

New sig.


Damn.:lol:

[Dollar-Fifty78]

could hatton beat dlh?
No and neither can Mayrunner without two blind judges.

[Alabama_Man]

There's a good case for Pac at #1. It's just the way he beats top level competition, he destroys them and leaves no question. Most of my favorite fighters are guys who chase the knockout (Trinidad, Pacquiao, etc). No controversy, no fouled up score cards, nothing, just one guy laying on his back and another guy raising his arm. That's how it should be. :cool:

[Alabama_Man]

marquez thought pac a lesson.



Yeah, Fagquez showed him how to sit down on the canvas (x3) like a pendeja. :lol:

[Orthodox Crusader]

Yeah, Fagquez showed him how to sit down on the canvas (x3) like a pendeja. :lol:


What the fuck is wrong with you? can't you ever give Marquez a tap of credit? He got back up 3 times and proceeded to hand your boy a lesson.

[Dollar-Fifty78]

What the fuck is wrong with you? can't you ever give Marquez a tap of credit? He got back up 3 times and proceeded to hand your boy a lesson.All props to Marquez for that always have gave him credit but he lost that fight by a point.

[Free Ike]

What the fuck is wrong with you? can't you ever give Marquez a tap of credit? He got back up 3 times and proceeded to hand your boy a lesson.
Hardly, Marquez lost by a minimum of 5 points. He lost 4 or 5 rounds and lost 10-6 in the first. Marquez got a gift.

[Alabama_Man]

What the fuck is wrong with you? can't you ever give Marquez a tap of credit? He got back up 3 times and proceeded to hand your boy a lesson.

A lesson? Hardly!

It was competitive the rest of the way, you Pac haters swear he lost 11 rounds. I gave 6 rounds TOTAL to Fagquez and 6 to Pac. Yeah it should've been a draw if Fagquez didn't sit down on the canvas 3 times. Fagquez could've settled this controvery easily if he wanted but the little bitch took $30,000 in one of the dumbest business moves in boxing history to go to Indonesia to get schooled. :lol:

[Alabama_Man]

Hardly, Marquez lost by a minimum of 5 points. He lost 4 or 5 rounds and lost 10-6 in the first. Marquez got a gift.

Exactly, Fagquez got a fucking gift that night. I hope they rematch this year so that Pac can make LATIN QUEER and Crusader make up more excuses. :lol:

But it looks like Fagquez is going to chase Barrera for a "rematch".... :shit:

[cupey alto]

Marquez clowned the one trick Pony, You could've given Marquez a few 10-8 rounds from the beating he gave the pony. Marquez is the man.

cupey

[Alabama_Man]

Marquez clowned the one trick Pony, You could've given Marquez a few 10-8 rounds from the beating he gave the pony. Marquez is the man.

cupey

Okay Horatio Sanz, let's not get crazy here. :nono:

[LATIN KING]

Marquez clowned the one trick Pony, You could've given Marquez a few 10-8 rounds from the beating he gave the pony. Marquez is the man.

cupeyenough said :bears:

now these Pacqueers think cause that one dimensional clown can throw a right hand hes like Mayorga turning into Ali :lol:

[Alabama_Man]

enough said :bears:

now these Pacqueers think cause that one dimensional clown can throw a right hand hes like Mayorga turning into Ali :lol:

Fagquez is barely a fighter, he reminds me of those Mexican Drag Queens you see walking in the street in TJ (disgusting pricks). He got on all fours for Barrera, the little pendeja even wants it in the ring. :eeeek:

[LATIN KING]

I do agree with the purpose of this thread I was actually thinking about how much better MOsley did against Oscar than Floyd. No to mention he didn't do all the shit talking Floyd did.

Floyd fought the oldest version of Oscar anybody has faced and Floyd is in his fucking prime. Everyone knew the guy can slap his way to a victory. But this type of stage was suposed to make the guy step up and take a fucking chance.

When you talk about great fighters like Leonard and Robinson they did more than "just enough" I honestly thought Floyd would do more and he didn't. It was a nice win but even the average fan has seen Oscar lose a couple of times. Floyd didn't make a statement last night the way he beat him. :nono:

[LATIN KING]

Fagquez is barely a fighter, he reminds me of those Mexican Drag Queens you see walking in the street in TJ (disgusting pricks). He got on all fours for Barrera, the little pendeja even wants it in the ring. :eeeek:Barrera put Pacquiao on his ass in the first round don't forget :lol:

and that knockdown Barrera scored on Marquez was a lucky shot after he was getting his ass handed to him for the whole round. Not to mention the cheating scumbag hit him after he was down.

and let's not forget Pacquiao's wife screaming and crying while your boy was getting battered by Marquez. :lol: you can pretend Pacquiao did all the damage but he was getting tossed around like a rag doll.

At the end of the fight only one fighter had the stupid excuses for his performance like wearing cheap socks.:laughing: fucking sore loser. :laughing:

[Dollar-Fifty78]

Barrera put Pacquiao on his ass in the first round don't forget :lol:
Not from a punch:notallthere:

[mexican wedding shirt]

I do agree with the purpose of this thread I was actually thinking about how much better MOsley did against Oscar than Floyd. No to mention he didn't do all the shit talking Floyd did.

Floyd fought the oldest version of Oscar anybody has faced and Floyd is in his fucking prime. Everyone knew the guy can slap his way to a victory. But this type of stage was suposed to make the guy step up and take a fucking chance.

When you talk about great fighters like Leonard and Robinson they did more than "just enough" I honestly thought Floyd would do more and he didn't. It was a nice win but even the average fan has seen Oscar lose a couple of times. Floyd didn't make a statement last night the way he beat him. :nono:

:bears:

[LATIN KING]

Not from a punch:notallthere:did he elbow him?:dunno:

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

Floyd is in his fucking prime.
Am I the only one who has a problem with this?

A 30 year old Mayweather in his 5th weight class isn't in his fucking prime.

[steve_dave]

Am I the only one who has a problem with this?

A 30 year old Mayweather in his 5th weight class isn't in his fucking prime.

:bears:

[LATIN KING]

Am I the only one who has a problem with this?

A 30 year old Mayweather in his 5th weight class isn't in his fucking prime.the guy is considered the best fighter in the world and is undefeated. your saying he is past his prime? :popcorn:

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

the guy is considered the best fighter in the world and is undefeated. your saying he is past his prime? :popcorn:
That's exactly what I'm saying.

[Ugotabe Kidding]

the guy is considered the best fighter in the world and is undefeated. your saying he is past his prime? :popcorn:

He definately isn't in his best weight class anymore. Everybody agreed that Roid peaked at super-middle yet he held titles in light-heavy for many years. No difference here

[Alabama_Man]

Barrera put Pacquiao on his ass in the first round don't forget :lol:

and that knockdown Barrera scored on Marquez was a lucky shot after he was getting his ass handed to him for the whole round. Not to mention the cheating scumbag hit him after he was down.

and let's not forget Pacquiao's wife screaming and crying while your boy was getting battered by Marquez. :lol: you can pretend Pacquiao did all the damage but he was getting tossed around like a rag doll.

At the end of the fight only one fighter had the stupid excuses for his performance like wearing cheap socks.:laughing: fucking sore loser. :laughing:

Yeah Barrera knocked down Pacquiao by using his face on pac's fist. :lol:

That knockdown on Fagquez wasn't lucky, this is the thing with you, when Fagquez gets caught cold after rushing in, it's called luck. Boooo shit. He caught Fagquez after that pendeja got horny for Barrera and dropped his hands. Then when he was on all fours, he was begging Barrera to take him. I heard Marquez say "¡tómeme el Marco!!!!"

Then Barrera got pissed and clocked him. Lucky Nady doesn't understand spanish! :nono:

[Fighter]

There are other criteria for p4p but if Pacman and Floyd are the same weight: Pacman S T R E T C H E S Floyd with BRUTAL punishment.

[steve_dave]

There are other criteria for p4p but if Pacman and Floyd are the same weight: Pacman S T R E T C H E S Floyd with BRUTAL punishment.

Floyd lays a boxing lesson on Pacquiao.

[Inside Whiskey's sister 24/7]

Bautista vs. Medina was very good esp. up to round 10..then it was kind of one sided....


Juarez sucked ass...first few rounds were okay, but most of the fight was ASS...boring...


Main Event was 7/10..it's rewatchable...more watchable than any recent Mayweather fight....

[Inside Whiskey's sister 24/7]

There are other criteria for p4p but if Pacman and Floyd are the same weight: Pacman S T R E T C H E S Floyd with BRUTAL punishment.

:nono: Mayweather knock him out...

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

There are other criteria for p4p but if Pacman and Floyd are the same weight: Pacman S T R E T C H E S Floyd with BRUTAL punishment.
:lol:

[Fighter]

Pacman will be bobbing and weaving to his OWN tune. He will dictate a FRANATIC PACE and punish Floyd until he stops him. Goes right through him.

Floyd hits him with a left hook, Pacman raises his arms and continues his onslaught. Doesn't think about what Floyd is doing, no boxing just punishment.

[Alabama_Man]

Pacman will be bobbing and weaving to his OWN tune. He will dictate a FRANATIC PACE and punish Floyd until he stops him. Goes right through him.

Floyd hits him with a left hook, Pacman raises his arms and continues his onslaught. Doesn't think about what Floyd is doing, no boxing just punishment.

If Dela Homo could pressure Floyd into a shell at times, Pac's relentless speed and aggression would put Floyd through the canvas!!!! :warning:

Pacquiao KO3 Mayweather P4P :popcorn:

[Fighter]

If Dela Homo could pressure Floyd into a shell at times, Pac's relentless speed and aggression would put Floyd through the canvas!!!! :warning:

Pacquiao KO3 Mayweather P4P :popcorn:

And Pacman rarely is involved in a CLINCH. He doesn't fall in, he throws combinations, we all remember those??, at a good range.

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

Pacman will be bobbing and weaving to his OWN tune. He will dictate a FRANATIC PACE and punish Floyd until he stops him. Goes right through him.

Floyd hits him with a left hook, Pacman raises his arms and continues his onslaught. Doesn't think about what Floyd is doing, no boxing just punishment.
You're pathetic dude.

You went from being a Freitas fanatic who resented the attention and praise Floyd was getting to being a full time Floyd hater because the guy keeps WINNING while Freitas keeps QUITTING.

[Rubio MHS]

And Pacman rarely is involved in a CLINCH. He doesn't fall in, he throws combinations, we all remember those??, at a good range.How many clinches did Mayweather instigate in this fight?

[Tam Tam]

That's exactly what I'm saying.
Of course he's past his prime. He also isn't the best fight in the world because of it.

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

Of course he's past his prime. He also isn't the best fight in the world because of it.
He's the best fighter though. :bears:

[LATIN KING]

If Floyd were to fight Pacquiao he would go the whole fight untouched while laughing until he decided to put that one trick pony out of his misery. :lol:

[LOK]

floyd whupped him.. cleanly

[slystaff]

Since the first fight with Shane at the staples center, I think it's fair to say that Oscar has slowed a fair bit.

He still has decent handspeed, timing, and combos. But damn his footspeed and balance is terrible now, and he can't pull the trigger like he used to. Despite blasting mayorga out of there, I still noticed this in the mayo fight.

Now at the time and on subsequent viewings I scored that first Mosley fight 8 to 4 for shane. I think shane beat him DECISIVELY. He outboxed him, outmanoeuvered him, outpunched him, and rattled him a few times, and was aggressive enough too. After an even first 6 rounds mosley just stepped it up and whupped oscar.

Floyd couldn't do that with an old, slow oscar. The pre forrest mosley had a greater claim to be the pound for pound champ than floyd does.

That version of mosley would have beaten the shit out of floyd, shit I would even give mosley a good chance NOW to beat floyd.

I believe pacman to be the best pound for pound. He lost to Morales? Sure he did, but morales is great, and fought excellently that night. And he beat marquez, the draw was bullshit. Better to lose to Morales than Castillo in the first fight.

And when it came to the rematch and rubber match, look what happened. Those are what you call decisive victories, not this safety first pot shotting bullshit, one punch at a time.

If pacman was bigger and started his career as a 130 pounder like floyd, rather than a flyweight, and they met at welterweight - I'd pick pacman to beat the fuck out of floyd.

Pacman is the best P4P, then Winky, then Floyd.

If floyd was the best P4P, quite simply, he would have done a fuck load better than he just did against a slow, 34 year old oscar. That would be like pacman only doing this well against el terrible in the 3rd fight.

:lol:

[StingerKarl]

There are other criteria for p4p but if Pacman and Floyd are the same weight: Pacman S T R E T C H E S Floyd with BRUTAL punishment.

All three at the same weight, Ivan Calderon beats them both on points.

[Barristan]

All three at the same weight, Ivan Calderon beats them both on points.
LOL...watch some more od Calderons fights and you'll see he will fold uder sever pressure...I think Pac beats him. As far as Pac vs Mayweather. Floyd would embarass him.

[slystaff]

All three at the same weight, Ivan Calderon beats them both on points.WHOA!

Wait a second there......

Are you saying that Calderon beats Floyd?

If so we need to make a new remix of the song "WHOA" and add in this Line:

"Karl says Calderon would be Floyd, I'm like WHOA!!!" :cool:

[Jake]

Calderon is easily the best pure boxer in the sport, but (prime) Floyd is a lot closer to a complete fighter between the two.

[valdosta]

Calderon about gets KOed against Cazarez, has a tough time in his last fight against Esquer and he is somehow better than a guy like Pacquiao or Floyd? :laughing: Yeah whatever. Calderon will lose VERY soon.

[ArturoGatti]

LOK needs to get pistol whipped.

[V10]

Calderon looked like shit :shit: against Esquer.

He got hit a ton and lost quite some rounds.

[LOK]

whatever you little bitch.. I'd like to slap you in the face with my big ass cock!


LOK needs to get pistol whipped.

[ArturoGatti]

whatever you little bitch.. I'd like to slap you in the face with my big ass cock!:lol:

I will drop you with a body shot.

[pug]

Okay Horatio Sanz, let's not get crazy here. :nono::lol:

[Jake]

Calderon looked like shit :shit: against Esquer.

He got hit a ton and lost quite some rounds.
the fuck he did. Esquer threw a lot, but landed very little. I thought Iron Boy did a damn good job of making Esquer look foolish for most of the fight. Of course, most people don't score defense, so the fight seemed closer than it really was. But all Esquer did effectively was move forward. Didn't do much once he got there, though.

[Barristan]

Calderon about gets KOed against Cazarez, has a tough time in his last fight against Esquer and he is somehow better than a guy like Pacquiao or Floyd? :laughing: Yeah whatever. Calderon will lose VERY soon.
:bears:

[Jake]

Calderon about gets KOed against Cazarez, has a tough time in his last fight against Esquer and he is somehow better than a guy like Pacquiao or Floyd? :laughing: Yeah whatever. Calderon will lose VERY soon.
Everyone said he would without a doubt lose against Cazares. And for all of the complaints that Chavez was so much bigger than Sanchez the other night, how much do you think Hugo outweight Calderon by, on fight night?

Guys like Calderon eventually slow down and lose, sure. But for the moment, there's no questioning he's a boxing genius. NONE. :nono:

[valdosta]

Everyone said he would without a doubt lose against Cazares. . :nono:


Yeah well not me, I bet on Calderon and it ended up more than a few bucks. The fight ended up basically an even money fight. Calderon has looked vulnerable to many times against pressure to go making comments like he is PFP 1 of the top few fighters in the world when his best win is freaking Hugo Cazarez. Boxing genius? Why because he is a good runner when he gets in trouble? <TABLE class=tborder id=post467737 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=thead>#79 (http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=467737&postcount=79)
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[Tam Tam]

Damn. Betting odds coming back to bite Jakey Poo in the ass again?! :clap: :cheer: