Ok, enough BS, Time to discuss Floyd vs Shane at 147lbs

[slystaff]

Alot of people think that Shane would beat Floyd. I just don't see it...BUT it's a very interesting fight nonetheless.

Two FAST, slick dudes in there, around the same size, both good body punchers, both with alot of heart, toughness.

Shane has a slight edge in power (YES...it's only slight), chins are about even from the looks of it, Shane may have faster hands in flurries...but Floyd is quicker at capitalizing on openings (reflexes) and so may appear faster.

I give Floyd the edge in stamina, movement, ring generalship, elusiveness and jab...

Shane is a more powerful body puncher, but Floyd is more accurate with body punches.

Would be an exciting fight, especially in the first couple of rounds...when Shane is still very fast and slick.

I just think that after 6 rounds or so it'll become a potshotting clinic for Floyd, when Shane becomes stationary (think Wilfredo Rivera) and looks to load up on one punch at a time.


Floyd, UD..116-112

[StingerKarl]

Floyd wins big on points, and the fight would be very similar to last night.

[Rubio MHS]

What people don't realize is that Mayweather has a nearly singular style of boxing. Traditionally, fighters who box on the outside rely on the jab, but Mayweather boxes on the outside using power shots as leads, and he doesn't use them in combinations. What makes him dangerous is that he has a lot more in his arsenal than that. Shane Mosley? He has one trick, and Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright have already laid the blueprint on how to beat him.

[REEDsART]

The Deal Is,Floyd HIMSELF is TROUBLED by "Speedy" Fighters...

Even Last Night,DeLa's Handspeed PREVENTED Floyd from Taking MORE Chances than he would've Liked to,Offensively...

Given this,Sugar Shane DEFINITELY Has a Chance...

@ this Point,REED is Inclined to Roll w/Floyd by a Decision,but REED FULLY Expects Sugar Shane to Give Floyd an Even TOUGHER Fight than DeLa OR Zab did...


REED:cool:

[Xplosive]

Floyd schools Shane.

[Rubio MHS]

The Deal Is,Floyd HIMSELF is TROUBLED by "Speedy" Fighters...

Even Last Night,DeLa's Handspeed PREVENTED Floyd from Taking MORE Chances than he would've Liked to,Offensively...He was throwing powershot leads and countering the jab with the overhand right. If you don't think that's taking a chance, you simply don't know boxing.

[Hanzy]

Floyd is retired. This is a mythical match.

[Rubio MHS]

And even if he hasn't, he's going to fight Oscar again.

[REEDsART]

He was throwing powershot leads and countering the jab with the overhand right. If you don't think that's taking a chance, you simply don't know boxing.w/Out Question,Floyd DID NOT Take NEARLY as Many Chances as he COULD Have,Last Night:nono: ...& DeLa DISREGARDED Jabbing Fairly EARLY N the Bout...

Do U DISagree w/that???:dunno: ...

Floyd SHOOK DeLa @ 1 Point,yet NEVER Followed Up...

Why??...

Cause he RESPECTED DeLa's POWER & HANDSPEED....REED would Even Argue that Floyd Respected DeLa N those Regards a Bit Tooooooooooooo Much....

Make NO Mistake about it,REED is a FAN of Floyd...REED Looooooooves Floyd,but let's NOT Pretend he was Spectacular Last Night:nono: ...He COULD have Done MORE than he Did,Despite CLEARLY Winning the Fight....

REED:cool:

[REEDsART]

Floyd schools Shane.Perhaps...

But Since YOU & SLY have Spearheaded the "Sugar Shane HATE Club" for SEVERAL YEARS Now,who CARES about Ya'lls Opinion???...


REED:lol:

[Tam Tam]

Floyd didn't school anything last night. Lets be real here. Floyd won and won clear as day, IMO...but this was still a somewhat disapointing performance from him. Oscar has been beaten worse than this before. He's eaten more shots than that before....he's struggled to land this few shots before. Oscar's been there.

For Floyd this was arguably his ugliest night @ the office, IMO. Even in the first fight with Castillo, he showed he was willing to eat it to go through and win. He won in impressive fashion that night, IMO even if it wasn't at all easy. Last night, he fought like a man who was afraid to commit. Thats a poor sign for his future at these higher weights, against younger, fresher, more hungry fighters.

[REEDsART]

Floyd didn't school anything last night. Lets be real here. Floyd won and won clear as day, IMO...but this was still a somewhat disapointing performance from him. Oscar has been beaten worse than this before. He's eaten more shots than that before....he's struggled to land this few shots before. Oscar's been there.

For Floyd this was arguably his ugliest night @ the office, IMO. Even in the first fight with Castillo, he showed he was willing to eat it to go through and win. He won in impressive fashion that night, IMO even if it wasn't at all easy. Last night, he fought like a man who was afraid to commit. Thats a poor sign for his future at these higher weights, against younger, fresher, more hungry fighters.agREED....

The CASUAL Boxing Fan who's NEVER Seen Floyd Fight(until Last Night) is Sitting Around Thinking,"THIS is the So-Called 'BEST Fighter in All of Boxing' ??"...

Quite a FEW Peeps Saw Floyd for the VERY FIRST TIME,Last Night...YOU & REED Know BETTER than to Judge Floyd Based SOLELY On Last Night,but there's Probably a MILLION Casual Fans who WILL Do JUST that,Whether it's FAIR or Not...

For the 500th Time,Floyd CLEARLY Won,but he WAS NOT Impressive...& This is a Huuuuuuuuge Floyd FAN Saying that...


REED:cool:

[dsimon3387]

What people don't realize is that Mayweather has a nearly singular style of boxing. Traditionally, fighters who box on the outside rely on the jab, but Mayweather boxes on the outside using power shots as leads, and he doesn't use them in combinations. What makes him dangerous is that he has a lot more in his arsenal than that. Shane Mosley? He has one trick, and Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright have already laid the blueprint on how to beat him.

dsimon writes:

Exactly! I made the exact same comment on a different thread regarding Floyd not using the jab. :bears: I have also always felt this way about Shane.

[dsimon3387]

He was throwing powershot leads and countering the jab with the overhand right. If you don't think that's taking a chance, you simply don't know boxing.

dsimon writes:

There is a common misconception that Floyd is afraid of getting hit (not saying this is Reeds Point of view) which is.... ridiculous. Floyd is costantly in the mix barely sliding past punches to execute his shots and counters. His style could not be executed by somoene afraid of getting hit.

[Rubio MHS]

w/Out Question,Floyd DID NOT Take NEARLY as Many Chances as he COULD Have,Last Night:nono: Yeah. He could've been fighting Oleg Maskaev. What do you expect?

[Hex-One]

Shane beats him! I think Shane Mosley has the speed and power and most important the workrate to outpoint Floyd. Mayweather backs up way to much and dosent let his hands go. It's just 1 punch at a time.

[MassaCure]

agREED....

The CASUAL Boxing Fan who's NEVER Seen Floyd Fight(until Last Night) is Sitting Around Thinking,"THIS is the So-Called 'BEST Fighter in All of Boxing' ??"...

Quite a FEW Peeps Saw Floyd for the VERY FIRST TIME,Last Night...YOU & REED Know BETTER than to Judge Floyd Based SOLELY On Last Night,but there's Probably a MILLION Casual Fans who WILL Do JUST that,Whether it's FAIR or Not...

For the 500th Time,Floyd CLEARLY Won,but he WAS NOT Impressive...& This is a Huuuuuuuuge Floyd FAN Saying that...


REED:cool:

why do you expect floyd to look his best against the hardest oposition of his career, a larger very skilled dangerous man, if you think he should have been more impressive you are overrating floyd mayweathers abilities

[MassaCure]

Shane beats him! I think Shane Mosley has the speed and power and most important the workrate to outpoint Floyd. Mayweather backs up way to much and dosent let his hands go. It's just 1 punch at a time.

didnt you pick dlh to win as well

[dsimon3387]

dsimon writes:

It became sort of fightbeat gospel that somehow Shane has the style to beat Floyd. Probably because he is better than Judah and who isn't? People seem to think he will rush in and flurry Floyd like Oscar tried to do.

I agree with Stinger... same fight as last night. Except Shane has a shorter reach than Oscar and he actually might turn his shoulders on his body shots. Floyd can lay back and use that reach all night.

[Xplosive]

Perhaps...

But Since YOU & SLY have Spearheaded the "Sugar Shane HATE Club" for SEVERAL YEARS Now,who CARES about Ya'lls Opinion???...


REED:lol:

I've NEVER hated Shane. I was critical of him back when he was rated #1 P4P, and compared to Leonard & Robinson, because he was becoming overrated. But I've never hated him. Hell I'm a semi-FAN of Mosley. I just dont think he can beat Floyd AT THIS POINT. A prime Mosley at 147 might beat Floyd, but not the current version.

[REEDsART]

why do you expect floyd to look his best against the hardest oposition of his career, a larger very skilled dangerous man, if you think he should have been more impressive you are overrating floyd mayweathers abilitiesREED NEVER Expected Floyd to Look "His BEST"...

But REED Didn't Expect to Come Away UNimpressed by Floyd's Performance,Either...

N his BIGGEST Fights,Floyd USUALLY Shines...Genaro Hernandez,Manfredy(a VERY BIG Fight @ the Time),Corrales,Gatti,Zab...


REED:cool:

[REEDsART]

I've NEVER hated Shane. I was critical of him back when he was rated #1 P4P, and compared to Leonard & Robinson, because he was becoming overrated. But I've never hated him. Hell I'm a semi-FAN of Mosley. I just dont think he can beat Floyd AT THIS POINT. A prime Mosley at 147 might beat Floyd, but not the current version.Fair Enough,Dog...

REED KNOWS Sly HATES Sugar Shane...REED Mistakenly Lumped U w/him...


REED:cool:

[Tam Tam]

Shane's reach is longer than Oscar's.

[MassaCure]

REED NEVER Expected Floyd to Look "His BEST"...

But REED Didn't Expect to Come Away UNimpressed by Floyd's Performance,Either...

N his BIGGEST Fights,Floyd USUALLY Shines...Genaro Hernandez,Manfredy(a VERY BIG Fight @ the Time),Corrales,Gatti,Zab...


REED:cool:

none of those guys are dlh, they are basically bullshit compared to oscar

[REEDsART]

none of those guys are dlh, they are basically bullshit compared to oscarHISTORICALLY,Sure...

But Not Last Night's Version of DeLa...


REED:nono:

[Mitchell Kane]

HISTORICALLY,Sure...

But Not Last Night's Version of DeLa...


REED:nono:

Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales and Gatti don't come close to him....historically or last night's version.

But they're also smaller.

[Tam Tam]

Hernandez, Manfred and Corrales were all MUCH tougher fighters, who were all held in higher regard at this point in their career than Oscar.

[slystaff]

Fair Enough,Dog...

REED KNOWS Sly HATES Sugar Shane...REED Mistakenly Lumped U w/him...


REED:cool:

You are mistaken again...

I don't hate Shane at all. How could anyone hate Shane? He's one of the most likable characters in the game and in the ring he's one of the most exciting.

It's just that I was appauled, back in 2000/2001, when people were saying that he's a better figher than Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather and should be mentioned alongside Robinson and Leonard.

Jones and Mayweagher were ALWAYS far ahead of Shane in terms of overall abilities...but people couldn't see it just on the basis of SHane's handspeed, cute antics and him being the first man to defeat Oscar without controversy.

I seemed to be the ONLY ONE who saw Shane's limitations and the fact that he wasn't this master boxer..but rather a stylized slugger.

It's because I was the only one saying this that I became labelled as Shane hater...but this is FAR from the truth.

[MassaCure]

HISTORICALLY,Sure...

But Not Last Night's Version of DeLa...


REED:nono:

last nights dlh is the same dlh, dont believe the old man hype, floyd made him look uneffective, he was too slow

[Rubio MHS]

You Fightbeat idiots never learn. Don't pick against Floyd Mayweather.

[Mitchell Kane]

You Fightbeat idiots never learn. Don't pick against Floyd Mayweather.

And don't pick DLH (at least against an elite fighter).

Both were acceptable for this fight.

[REEDsART]

Hernandez, Manfred and Corrales were all MUCH tougher fighters, who were all held in higher regard at this point in their career than Oscar.Glad SOMEBODY Grasped the Point REED was Trying to Make...


REED:cool:

ps.It's Starting to SCARE REED How Much we AGREE on Shit,Lately...What the Fuck???:dunno:

[KaukipRrr]

It's all about styles, and Shane will typically have to chase and chase and chase Fraud down, then rip hellacious body shots into him, and use his tremendous strength to smother Fraud against the ropes and brawl sporadically, ofcourse Mosely also has good handspeed inwhich to clip him often, and mix it up explosively in close, preferrably he'll wanna beat that body hard, real hard like we know he can, have Fraud seizing up the way he was with Castillo. Mosely will render him useless if he can habitually puncture Fraud's pod and beat the wings off him. Most of this board agreed Mosely had the attributes and style to be the more dangerous fight, De La Hoya and Mosely aren't like Ken and Ryu either, Mosely's trumped much better versions TWICE :nono: ...

And when Fraud falls down barely conscious and suffercating, don't you cheap Jones <--to--> Fraud fans even dare to jump ship again!!!,..:nono: you had your chance.

[MassaCure]

Hernandez, Manfred and Corrales were all MUCH tougher fighters, who were all held in higher regard at this point in their career than Oscar.

who had corrales beat prior to fighting mayweather? same question for manfredy

[Rubio MHS]

who had corrales beat prior to fighting mayweather? same question for manfredyManfreddy had beaten Arturo Gatti. Corrales was ranked #6 in the world, pound-for-pound, by Ring magazine for his wins over Roberto Garcia, John Brown, Derrick Gainer and Angel Manfreddy.

[MassaCure]

Manfreddy had beaten Arturo Gatti. Corrales was ranked #6 in the world, pound-for-pound, by Ring magazine for his wins over Roberto Garcia, John Brown, Derrick Gainer and Angel Manfreddy.

and that makes u higher regarded then dlh?gaati and john midget brown

[Tam Tam]

Manfredy was in the running for 1998's FOTY. Whoever won that fight, got the award. You'd have to have been a real boxing fan to know this.

Again, just stick to saying "Amare" and move on.

[jaws1216]

mosley would beat floyd IMO

but i think floyd could beat anyone else at 154, and everyone but winky at 154/160

[Free Ike]

Lance Mayweather will outpoint Shane and run enough miles to get through the Swiss Alps. Dana White will cut him a check and get him a black belt because Floyd has some serious grappling skills.

[Rubio MHS]

Lance Mayweather will outpoint Shane and run enough miles to get through the Swiss Alps. Dana White will cut him a check and get him a black belt because Floyd has some serious grappling skills.You're getting lazy. How hard would it have been to come up with the name of a famous runner?

[Free Ike]

You're getting lazy. How hard would it have been to come up with the name of a famous runner?
I didn't want a runner. I wanted a bike rider. Floyd gets on his bike and humps like he did last night. He is henceforth Lance Mayweather and Oscar is Oscar de la Zombie or the synonym of that like Oscar de la Louis.

[Rubio MHS]

I didn't want a runner. I wanted a bike rider. Floyd gets on his bike and humps like he did last night. He is henceforth Lance Mayweather and Oscar is Oscar de la Zombie or the synonym of that like Oscar de la Louis.But "getting on your bike" is a term for boxing on your toes and not planting your feet. Floyd doesn't do that. You don't understand this basic facet of boxing.

[Free Ike]

But "getting on your bike" is a term for boxing on your toes and not planting your feet. Floyd doesn't do that. You don't understand this basic facet of boxing.
You don't understand that you are a Welcher.

[Rubio MHS]

You don't understand that you are a Welcher.It seems you still haven't figured out how to spell or understand that word.

[Free Ike]

It seems you still haven't figured out how to spell or understand that word.
Well, at least I know what "easily" means. :lol: :lol: Someday, I will liquidate you.

[LATIN KING]

Manfredy was in the running for 1998's FOTY. Whoever won that fight, got the award. You'd have to have been a real boxing fan to know this.

Again, just stick to saying "Amare" and move on.ring Magazine also gave Paulie Ayala the FOTY in 1999:lol:

[Tam Tam]

ring Magazine also gave Paulie Ayala the FOTY in 1999:lol:
:dunno: He beat an undefeated P4P fighter. Paulie was never the best, but thats hardly anything to sneeze at.

[jarhead]

wait, I thought Floyd is retiring? Isn't he a straight forward, meat and potatoes type of cat? He wouldn't have been lying for publicity would he?:dunno:

[Father of Muzse]

You are mistaken again...

I don't hate Shane at all...

I stopped REEDing after this lie.

[The Cuban Hawk]

Floyd didn't school anything last night. Lets be real here. Floyd won and won clear as day, IMO...but this was still a somewhat disapointing performance from him. Oscar has been beaten worse than this before. He's eaten more shots than that before....he's struggled to land this few shots before. Oscar's been there.

For Floyd this was arguably his ugliest night @ the office, IMO. Even in the first fight with Castillo, he showed he was willing to eat it to go through and win. He won in impressive fashion that night, IMO even if it wasn't at all easy. Last night, he fought like a man who was afraid to commit. Thats a poor sign for his future at these higher weights, against younger, fresher, more hungry fighters.

THE TRUTH

:bears: :bears: :bears:

[The Cuban Hawk]

Very simply, I was one of the ones going in that thought Mosley would be a much tougher stylistic match for Floyd than Hoya would be. After seeing how much trouble Hoya gave Floyd (which frankly surprised me), I would favor a tougher stylistic match than that to BEAT Floyd.

[jaws1216]

Very simply, I was one of the ones going in that thought Mosley would be a much tougher stylistic match for Floyd than Hoya would be. After seeing how much trouble Hoya gave Floyd (which frankly surprised me), I would favor a tougher stylistic match than that to BEAT Floyd.

did u even watch the fight.

When exactly did DLH give Floyd trouble?

[The Cuban Hawk]

When exactly did DLH give Floyd trouble?

When he was winning 5 out of 12 rounds from him and forcing him to be ultra-tentative for the whole fight.

[Tam Tam]

The people who think Oscar DIDN'T trouble Floyd are as blind as the morons who scored the fight for Oscar.

[The Cuban Hawk]

The people who think Oscar DIDN'T trouble Floyd are as blind as the morons who scored the fight for Oscar.

Agreed.

[jarhead]

The people who think Oscar DIDN'T trouble Floyd are as blind as the morons who scored the fight for Oscar.

No doubt, it was by far Floyd's toughest fight since JLC. I would say his toughest to date. He fought to a safe win. Did as little as possible without having to commit to any trading or mixing it up. He gained a W, but not many fans.

[mexican wedding shirt]

The people who think Oscar DIDN'T trouble Floyd are as blind as the morons who scored the fight for Oscar.

:bears:

[3OG]

You Fightbeat idiots never learn. Don't pick against Floyd Mayweather.

Yeah I learned that hard at the sports book this weekend. This fight should be made. Shane is the only guy in the world that can make Flyod fight and not just coast to UD or SD. Now the question is will PBF even get in the same ring as Shane, because even he knows it's a bad fight for him.:dunno:

[Father of Muzse]

Yeah I learned that hard at the sports book this weekend. This fight should be made. Shane is the only guy in the world that can make Flyod fight and not just coast to UD or SD. Now the question is will PBF even get in the same ring as Shane, because even he knows it's a bad fight for him.:dunno:

Floyd won't fight Shane.

I doubt the fight could be made because A). Floyd will think he should get another $10 million. B). If there's $10 million (total) on the table, Floyd will want at least $8 of it.

The "onliest" way I can see Floyd fighting Shane is if a return match withe Oscar is guaranteed AFTER the fight.

Lastly, Floyd got a 70-30 split this time out. Next time, he'll want the terms reversed or at least receive parity. I can't see either of those playing out. I'm guessing Oscar will offer 60-40 at best.

[slystaff]

Floyd won't fight Shane.

I doubt the fight could be made because A). Floyd will think he should get another $10 million. B). If there's $10 million (total) on the table, Floyd will want at least $8 of it.

The "onliest" way I can see Floyd fighting Shane is if a return match withe Oscar is guaranteed AFTER the fight.

Lastly, Floyd got a 70-30 split this time out. Next time, he'll want the terms reversed or at least receive parity. I can't see either of those playing out. I'm guessing Oscar will offer 60-40 at best.


At the moment there is no reason to fight Shane...the risk outweighs the reward. Shane needs to beat the winner of Zab-Cotto or Margarito before he deserves to face boxing's best.

[Father of Muzse]

At the moment there is no reason to fight Shane...the risk outweighs the reward. Shane needs to beat the winner of Zab-Cotto or Margarito before he deserves to face boxing's best.


If a rematch isn't made, who should Floyd fight?

Would you prefer to see him fight his 154 mandatory which is Vernon Forrest?

If he wants to keep his 147 belt, his mandatory is Shane.

Lastly, the winner of Zab vs Cotto is already slated to fight the winner of Margarito-Williams.

Where have you been the last few months? :dunno:

[Erratic]

I would love to see Mayweather and Mosley fight. Unfortunately, there is too much money in a rematch with Mayweather and De La Hoya and that's the likely bout.

One thing I wonder though, is when they will fight. Oscar likes to fight on the May and September Mexican holidays. Oscar usually takes some time off after a loss (9 months after both Mosley fights, 20 months after Hopkins) and hasn't been the most active fighter anyway. If not in four months, then the rematch is likely for next Cinco De Mayo. Will Mayweather sit around for a year (his "retirement")?? Oscar won't allow Mosley to fight Mayweather on his September PPV date which could ruin the next megafight between PBF and Oscar.

[Neil]

If he wants to keep his 147 belt, his mandatory is Shane.



If Shane wants to enforce that mandatory would he be willing to accept 25%?

[*Z*]

After Dela vs Floyd. I am pretty certain Floyd would lose to Mosley. Mosley will press the action like Oscar did, but he's faster and he will not run out of gas mid fight. Floyd will have to work his ass off to beat Mosley.

[Hex-One]

After Dela vs Floyd. I am pretty certain Floyd would lose to Mosley. Mosley will press the action like Oscar did, but he's faster and he will not run out of gas mid fight. Floyd will have to work his ass off to beat Mosley. Agreed! Floyd will have to let his hands go to win this fight and that will give Mosley opportunities to land some bombs! Floyd cant and wont hurt Mosley.

[slystaff]

If a rematch isn't made, who should Floyd fight?

Would you prefer to see him fight his 154 mandatory which is Vernon Forrest?

If he wants to keep his 147 belt, his mandatory is Shane.

Lastly, the winner of Zab vs Cotto is already slated to fight the winner of Margarito-Williams.

Where have you been the last few months? :dunno:

If a rematch isn't made, Floyd should stay inactive/retired until someone proves himself to be a worthy challange. WE KNOW that Shane would be a stiff challenge...but Objectively..Shane has done very little in the last couple of years to deserve a fight with Floyd.

You see...after beating Oscar...it'll be very difficult for Floyd to "get up" for anyone. How can you follow a victory over Oscar at 154lbs. For Floyd to stay motivated now...he'll have to fight someone who has recently proven himself to be a top fighter.

Shane would have to fight Margarito or Cotto..fot Floyd to be able to motivate himself properly to fight him...IMO.

But your point about Shane being his manadatory is a valid one, and one for consideration.

[slystaff]

After Dela vs Floyd. I am pretty certain Floyd would lose to Mosley. Mosley will press the action like Oscar did, but he's faster and he will not run out of gas mid fight. Floyd will have to work his ass off to beat Mosley.

Did you pick Oscar to win?

[Erratic]

If a rematch isn't made, Floyd should stay inactive/retired until someone proves himself to be a worthy challange. WE KNOW that Shane would be a stiff challenge...but Objectively..Shane has done very little in the last couple of years to deserve a fight with Floyd.

You see...after beating Oscar...it'll be very difficult for Floyd to "get up" for anyone. How can you follow a victory over Oscar at 154lbs. For Floyd to stay motivated now...he'll have to fight someone who has recently proven himself to be a top fighter.

Shane would have to fight Margarito or Cotto..fot Floyd to be able to motivate himself properly to fight him...IMO.

But your point about Shane being his manadatory is a valid one, and one for consideration.

No, Floyd should stay active.

"Fighters fight".

It's bad enough that the sport's biggest star is already a part-time fighter. Now we'd have the top p4p fighter and one of the biggest names in the sport being part-time also.

What did Judah do to deserve a fight with Mayweather? Lose to Baldomir? What about Mitchell?

[*Z*]

Did you pick Oscar to win?

Yes I did.

[*Z*]

If a rematch isn't made, Floyd should stay inactive/retired until someone proves himself to be a worthy challange. WE KNOW that Shane would be a stiff challenge...but Objectively..Shane has done very little in the last couple of years to deserve a fight with Floyd.

You see...after beating Oscar...it'll be very difficult for Floyd to "get up" for anyone. How can you follow a victory over Oscar at 154lbs. For Floyd to stay motivated now...he'll have to fight someone who has recently proven himself to be a top fighter.

Shane would have to fight Margarito or Cotto..fot Floyd to be able to motivate himself properly to fight him...IMO.

But your point about Shane being his manadatory is a valid one, and one for consideration.

Oh great, now Floyd is Roy Jones? He has to "get up" for Mosley? I have ALWAYS thought Mosley is the harder fight. Oscar was just the more lucrative fight. Mosley has 2 wins over Oscar, and prior to facing Mayweather what exactly did Oscar do to be so "worthy" of fighting the "great" Floyd?

[Father of Muzse]

If a rematch isn't made, Floyd should stay inactive/retired until someone proves himself to be a worthy challange. WE KNOW that Shane would be a stiff challenge...but Objectively..Shane has done very little in the last couple of years to deserve a fight with Floyd.

You see...after beating Oscar...it'll be very difficult for Floyd to "get up" for anyone. How can you follow a victory over Oscar at 154lbs. For Floyd to stay motivated now...he'll have to fight someone who has recently proven himself to be a top fighter.

Shane would have to fight Margarito or Cotto..fot Floyd to be able to motivate himself properly to fight him...IMO.

But your point about Shane being his manadatory is a valid one, and one for consideration.

This is the kind of crap which ruins the game. Did Manny Pacquiao feel that Jorge Solis or Oscar Larios wasn't "worthy" to fight him?

This is the kind of prima donna attitude which ruins boxing. In fact, it's one of the reasons Mosley is one of mt favorite fighters. The risk/reward for fighting Winky was not in his favor in light of the Trinidad fight which was penciled in for the Fall. He took the fight because he wanted the challenge AND he felt like he got lowballed on the rubbermatch for De La Hoya.

It didn't make good business sense, but I guarantee Shane slept a lot better because he stood on principle. That's what matters at the end of the day.

If you're advocating that Floyd doesn't need to fight Shane or other guys until they are "worthy" then he might as well retire.

As much as people shit on Roy, he didn't have to fight Tarver after beating Ruiz and more importantly, he didn't have to take the rematch.

Fuck Floyd if he adopts that line of thinking.

Besides, let him retire...he'll be back in a couple years once he's blown through his money.