De la Hoya-Mayweather over 2 million buys!!!

[Fighter]

Just kidding fuckers!! With such sadness in the air...

When will the figures be released...geez, with such technology these days, you kow the internets...

[steve_dave]

Doesn't it usually take a week or so to get the numbers?

[Fighter]

I would think definitely before saturday...:old:

If Mayorga did a million...

[Erratic]

Probably Friday.

[Hut*Hut]

I would think definitely before saturday...:old:

If Mayorga did a million...

Mayorga actually comes to fight though...thats usually a selling point.:slap:

[Alabama_Man]

It did 2.15 Million buys actually. :lol:

[Xplosive]

Well its no longer a joke. It really did do over 2 million. Its on Fightnews.

[Alabama_Man]

Floyd-Oscar: 2.15 million buys!
PPV telecast sets all time record
HBO Sports reported today that 2.15 million pay-per-view buys and $120 million in pay-per-view revenue was generated from last Saturday’s mega fight showdown featuring Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The fight was promoted by Golden Boy Promotions in association with MGM Grand Hotel & Casino. In a fight that set the all-time pay-per-view record by eclipsing the previous mark by a sizable margin of 160,000 buys as well as establishing a new mark for revenue from a pay-per-view telecast, Mayweather scored a split decision victory and captured De La Hoya’s junior middleweight title. The showdown produced 1,225,000 buys from cable systems and 925,000 buys from satellite homes throughout the 50 states.

--- Fightnews

Amazing. :cool:

[Erratic]

Wow.

I expected it to do around the same numbers as DLH-Trinidad, maybe a little more, but below Tyson's best PPV numbers.

[TFK]

Imagine how many PPV's they could've sold with a stacked undercard and a better price.

Oscar can still draw, that's for sure. Although I doubt a rematch would pull in anything close to these numbers.

I just hope Floyd doesn't get any misconceptions that he's the reason for the buyrate.

TFK

[steve_dave]

Amazing. :cool:

The fight was also huge in Canada. I'm sure there are a couple hundred thousand buys from up here too.

The number in inflated though when comparing it to Lewis/Tyson and especially Oscar/Tito. I know I didn't have the ability to purchase PPV on my TV back them... I'm sure the amount of people who have digital cable or a dish has gone up HUGE over the past five years.

[ElTerriblee]

Imagine how many PPV's they could've sold with a stacked undercard and a better price.

Oscar can still draw, that's for sure. Although I doubt a rematch would pull in anything close to these numbers.

I just hope Floyd doesn't get any misconceptions that he's the reason for the buyrate.

TFK

Even before the numbers were released you better believe Floyd already expected to be paid 8 figures in the future, no matter the opponent.

[TFK]

Even before the numbers were released you better believe Floyd already expected to be paid 8 figures in the future, no matter the opponent.

Maybe he is better off retiring, then.

TFK

[Hanzy]

Nice. Now wouldn't it have been awesome if people had actually enjoyed the card?:lol: The undercard was possibly the shittest in ppv history, and the main event was lackluster with typical Oscar controversy. Doesn't help the future of boxing's ppvs.

[Haymaker]

Imagine how many PPV's they could've sold with a stacked undercard and a better price.

TFK

True. Just imagine Mosley vs. Margarito/Mayorga/Baldomir as undercard

add Larios vs. Escobedo to fill in the third spot

[Erratic]

Nice. Now wouldn't it have been awesome if people had actually enjoyed the card?:lol: The undercard was possibly the shittest in ppv history, and the main event was lackluster with typical Oscar controversy. Doesn't help the future of boxing's ppvs.

Yeah, couldn't cheap ass Oscar and Richard have shelled out a little less from that $50 million paid for promoting the bout for a better undercard than Juarez-Hernandez?

[Double L]

that should keep GBP going another couple of years.

[Father of Muzse]

Translation: Rematch

[TFK]

I think the luster is gone from any rematch, but it is probably the best bet for the biggest payday for both fighters.

But they won't do anywhere near the number they did the first time.

TFK

[Hanzy]

Hopefully HBO doesn't take this as a sign that they need to put on more ppvs.:lol:
But I can see them doing more fight buildup shows like that 24/7. I think at the end of the day, a very very large amount of credit goes to Floyd. If he didn't play his bad guy role so well and talk so much sh*t, they wouldn't have seen this kind of number. Afterall, DLH vs Mayorga scored 900,000 ppv buys with ALOT of hype to that with Mayorga playing a meaner and more menacing bad-guy role than even Floyd.

[Hanzy]

I think the luster is gone from any rematch, but it is probably the best bet for the biggest payday for both fighters.

But they won't do anywhere near the number they did the first time.

TFK

Maybe, but the rematch will still do over a million easily. DLH already has about a million buys locked in automatically for a ppv just via his name alone.:lol:

[MassaCure]

65 dollars for a shitty undercard and boring main event, i need a refund

[Erratic]

Translation: Rematch

Unfortunately, I think that will happen.

[valdosta]

Imagine how many PPV's they could've sold with a stacked undercard and a better price.

Oscar can still draw, that's for sure. Although I doubt a rematch would pull in anything close to these numbers.

I just hope Floyd doesn't get any misconceptions that he's the reason for the buyrate.

TFK

A stacked undercard wouldn't have helped anything. Hardcore fans already were going to buy it and casual fans could give a shit about the undercard. Oh and BTW, of course Floyd helped sell the PPV, don;t be silly. Sure, ODLH was the main drawing point but Floyd hyped himself up as the villain very well.

[mikE]

A stacked undercard wouldn't have helped anything. Hardcore fans already were going to buy it and casual fans could give a shit about the undercard. Oh and BTW, of course Floyd helped sell the PPV, don;t be silly. Sure, ODLH was the main drawing point but Floyd hyped himself up as the villain very well.

Sort of. A better undercard would have made a difference. Jack didn't order it, for instance. I was out of town and only ordered it because my brother-in-law wanted to get it. Maybe only the really hardcore fans were so turned off and not just the big fans?

Agree about Floyd helping. Of course he helped. His status as a p4p fighter and his willingness to be a dickhead during the promo all helped. In many ways, it was just a perfect storm for a ppv fight. As others have pointed out, there was no recent ppvs to speak of, they spent a LONG time promoting this fight and not bickering over $$...etc.

What this ppv also did is fuck over future ppvs. Thanks to that shitty undercard and a fairly dull main event.

[Baron]

Shit, it's incredible. Floyd is way more popular than I thought... After all Sly may be right, Floyd, as some sort of supervillain, may be the face of boxing now. I severely underrated how popular this PPV would be... Honestly I thought it wouldn't do much better than DLH-Mayorga. It was well promoted though, gotta give props to them for that.

[Hanzy]

Sort of. A better undercard would have made a difference. Jack didn't order it, for instance. I was out of town and only ordered it because my brother-in-law wanted to get it. Maybe only the really hardcore fans were so turned off and not just the big fans?

Agree about Floyd helping. Of course he helped. His status as a p4p fighter and his willingness to be a dickhead during the promo all helped. In many ways, it was just a perfect storm for a ppv fight. As others have pointed out, there was no recent ppvs to speak of, they spent a LONG time promoting this fight and not bickering over $$...etc.

What this ppv also did is fuck over future ppvs. Thanks to that shitty undercard and a fairly dull main event.

If that's the case, then why did Mike Tyson still draw a record-breaking 2 million buys against Lewis after completely disgracing himself and the sport of boxing a few years earlier in Holyfield 2, and ripping off the public completely?:dunno:

[Hanzy]

Shit, it's incredible. Floyd is way more popular than I thought... After all Sly may be right, Floyd, as some sort of supervillain, may be the face of boxing now. I severely underrated how popular this PPV would be... Honestly I thought it wouldn't do much better than DLH-Mayorga. It was well promoted though, gotta give props to them for that.

Don't disregard the 24/7 HBO shows. I believe that build up show helped the PPVs significantly, especially for casual fans of the sport.

[Double L]

god. now i know i'm cynical. baked into my anticipation for a rematch is the idea that we'll get to see them fight for real now, knowing that they took it easy on each other the first time around in order to encourage the rematch.

[Erratic]

god. now i know i'm cynical. baked into my anticipation for a rematch is the idea that we'll get to see them fight for real now, knowing that they took it easy on each other the first time around in order to encourage the rematch.

Conspiracy theories?

I'm a cynic and all too but I don't for a second believe these pre-arranged scenarios for Oscar's fights with B-Hop and now Floyd.

[TFK]

A stacked undercard wouldn't have helped anything. Hardcore fans already were going to buy it and casual fans could give a shit about the undercard. Oh and BTW, of course Floyd helped sell the PPV, don;t be silly. Sure, ODLH was the main drawing point but Floyd hyped himself up as the villain very well.

I wasn't home that night, so I couldn't order the fight, but I wasn't gonna order it anyway. I know Floyd's style can be boring, and De La Hoya is so rich there's no way he can have the desire and hunger he once had, so that fight alone was worth nowhere near $55.

But had they priced it better, or put some good fights on the undercard, like the Mosley-Mayorga\Margarito fight that was mentioned, I'd be much more likely to buy it.

TFK

[Fighter]

They are talking of a split of $45million for Oscar and $20 million for Floyd. And yet Chico was BROKE?

It didn't barely beat the record, it passed it by almost 200k.

Oscar-Tito numbers didn't accelerate a rematch, will this??

[valdosta]

I wasn't home that night, so I couldn't order the fight, but I wasn't gonna order it anyway. I know Floyd's style can be boring, and De La Hoya is so rich there's no way he can have the desire and hunger he once had, so that fight alone was worth nowhere near $55.

But had they priced it better, or put some good fights on the undercard, like the Mosley-Mayorga\Margarito fight that was mentioned, I'd be much more likely to buy it.

TFK

Don't matter, you are a huge minority. People bought that card to watch the main event that was hyped so well. Undercards really don't matter to the casual fans. In the end it really don't matter it sold over 2 million PPV's on the strength of 1 fight, that's pretty fucking impressive.

[Father of Muzse]

Hopefully HBO doesn't take this as a sign that they need to put on more ppvs.:lol:
But I can see them doing more fight buildup shows like that 24/7. I think at the end of the day, a very very large amount of credit goes to Floyd. If he didn't play his bad guy role so well and talk so much sh*t, they wouldn't have seen this kind of number. Afterall, DLH vs Mayorga scored 900,000 ppv buys with ALOT of hype to that with Mayorga playing a meaner and more menacing bad-guy role than even Floyd.

You also have to remember that HBO spent a TON of money on advertising for this fight.

They probably spent more on advertising than they'll pay for the rest of their 2007 cards combined.

I doubt they'd shell out that kind of money again.

[Father of Muzse]

They are talking of a split of $45million for Oscar and $20 million for Floyd. And yet Chico was BROKE?

It didn't barely beat the record, it passed it by almost 200k.

Oscar-Tito numbers didn't accelerate a rematch, will this??

Couple things...

It's not saying much but this was a better fight than Oscar-Tito.

Oscar's not in his 20's. At the time, he knew there were additional huge paydays out there for him. That's not the case now.

[Octopus]

Nice. Now wouldn't it have been awesome if people had actually enjoyed the card?:lol: The undercard was possibly the shittest in ppv history, and the main event was lackluster with typical Oscar controversy. Doesn't help the future of boxing's ppvs.

:bears:

Boxing won no new fans with this wank!!

[slystaff]

Translation: Rematch

Translation: Floyd MUST be a star as well! :cool:

[Maverick]

It was an ok fight. I didn't expect it to do 2 million though.

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

What!? I though nobody gave a shit about Floyd. Those numbers must be corrupt.

[Inside Whiskey's sister 24/7]

Shit, it's incredible. Floyd is way more popular than I thought... After all Sly may be right, Floyd, as some sort of supervillain, may be the face of boxing now. I severely underrated how popular this PPV would be... Honestly I thought it wouldn't do much better than DLH-Mayorga. It was well promoted though, gotta give props to them for that.

24/7
cover of sport illustrated
Time magazine articles
commercials on national tv
ESPN showing past fight of both fighters before the ppv
etc..etc.....

HBO do a 24/7 for Cotto vs. Judah or Hopkins vs. Winky..and it could those ppv could do 700-800 k easy...and cotto/judah are not well known...and hop/winky are a bit more known but boring styles..well not winky..but hop.

[Inside Whiskey's sister 24/7]

Nice. Now wouldn't it have been awesome if people had actually enjoyed the card?:lol: The undercard was possibly the shittest in ppv history, and the main event was lackluster with typical Oscar controversy. Doesn't help the future of boxing's ppvs.

told you it would break tyson vs. lewis..or whatever the ppv record was....:tease:

[?H?L?QU?L?$]

24/7
cover of sport illustrated
Time magazine articles
commercials on national tv
ESPN showing past fight of both fighters before the ppv
etc..etc.....

HBO do a 24/7 for Cotto vs. Judah or Hopkins vs. Winky..and it could those ppv could do 700-800 k easy...and cotto/judah are not well known...and hop/winky are a bit more known but boring styles..well not winky..but hop.
That's exactly the point.. HBO wouldn't do a 24/7 about them, they wouldn't be on no time magazine, etc because there isn't that kind of interest.

[Erratic]

It looks like it's actually rare for a megafight with crazy PPV numbers to actually be a really good prize fight.


Mayweather-De La Hoya, 2007, 2.15 (decent fight)
Holyfield-Tyson II, 1997, 1.99 (worst megafight ever)
Lewis-Tyson, 2002, 1.8 (so-so, only really good if you like Lewis or hate Tyson)
Holyfield-Tyson I, 1996, 1.59 (pretty good fight although it was overrated)
Tyson-McNeeley, 1995, 1.55 (sucked)
Holyfield-Foreman, 1991, 1.4 (pretty good fight)
De La Hoya-Trinidad, 1999, 1.4 (mediocre fight)

[Fighter]

Couple things...

It's not saying much but this was a better fight than Oscar-Tito.

Oscar's not in his 20's. At the time, he knew there were additional huge paydays out there for him. That's not the case now.

I think if Oscar-Tito had this kind of PROMOTION, it would have done the same range of numbers.

They were both undefeated and in their primes. Tito wasn't a defensive, kind of a boring fighter, he was a pressure KO fighter. In terms of EXPECTATIONS, that was a COLOSSAL event.

All near future fights, WHOEVER the opponent, Oscar makes more than $10 million or more EVERY time out. His market power will not be diminshed because of this split decision loss.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Imagine how many PPV's they could've sold with a stacked undercard and a better price.

Oscar can still draw, that's for sure. Although I doubt a rematch would pull in anything close to these numbers.

I just hope Floyd doesn't get any misconceptions that he's the reason for the buyrate.

TFK
Howcome UFC doesn't do 2 million buys with its stacked undercard

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

65 dollars for a shitty undercard and boring main event, i need a refund
Did you watch the Bautista-Medina fight

[slystaff]

told you it would break tyson vs. lewis..or whatever the ppv record was....:tease:

Told ALL OF YOU earlier in the week that it was the richest fight ever! :tease:

[Maverick]

Told ALL OF YOU earlier in the week that it was the richest fight ever! :tease:

Fuck you

[TKO]

Excellent work Nostradmus.

[Roll With The Punches]

wtf

2.15 million buys is crazy :eeeek:
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[TFK]

Howcome UFC doesn't do 2 million buys with its stacked undercard

Because UFC is still in it's infancy in the grand scheme of things. It's still building up it's fan base.

At the rate things are going, it wouldn't shock me if they eventually pull a similair number. It may not be next year or the year after, but if the trends continue as they do, it's very possible down the line.

With ESPN now beginning to cover UFC, UFC airing on HBO, Randy Couture soon to grace the cover of Sports Illustrated, etc,etc, UFC's buyrates, which are already consistantly beating most boxing and wrestling PPV's, will continue to grow and grow and grow.

When you consider it wasn't all that long ago that they weren't even allowed on most PPV outlets, that's a hell of an accomplishment.

TFK

[Father of Muzse]

Told ALL OF YOU earlier in the week that it was the richest fight ever! :tease:


Too bad it wasn't the best fight on the card.

:lol:

[Hanzy]

Because UFC is still in it's infancy in the grand scheme of things. It's still building up it's fan base.

At the rate things are going, it wouldn't shock me if they eventually pull a similair number. It may not be next year or the year after, but if the trends continue as they do, it's very possible down the line.

With ESPN now beginning to cover UFC, UFC airing on HBO, Randy Couture soon to grace the cover of Sports Illustrated, etc,etc, UFC's buyrates, which are already consistantly beating most boxing and wrestling PPV's, will continue to grow and grow and grow.

When you consider it wasn't all that long ago that they weren't even allowed on most PPV outlets, that's a hell of an accomplishment.

TFK

Anything's possible. Although I don't know if you're accurate about the UFC continuing to grow and grow and grow. Nothing keeps growing. Everything always fizzles out. It'll peak and like any other sport, it will have its good and bad times. Even Pro Wrestling was blazing in the late 90s.
10 years down the road, it'll probably be just another sport like pro boxing and pro wrestling.
Soon though, as the whole hype of cage-fighting wears thin, the UFC will need to rely on star power to market its shows the same way boxing does.
Viewer interest always declines after a while. With Liddell and Couture nearing their end age-wise, it'll be interesting to see who will take the UFC forward, considering alot of international fighters are coming onto the scene. Are the americans ready to embrace brazilian fighters like Noguira and Silva? From the looks of it and the receptions they've been getting, not yet.

[MassaCure]

Howcome UFC doesn't do 2 million buys with its stacked undercard

too much ground humping

[Neil]

Imagine how many PPV's they could've sold with a stacked undercard and a better price.

Oscar can still draw, that's for sure. Although I doubt a rematch would pull in anything close to these numbers.

I just hope Floyd doesn't get any misconceptions that he's the reason for the buyrate.

TFK


This post is sheer ignorance. The undercard would not have meant ANYthing. And I guess this guy thinks Mayweather had nothing to do with the numbers at all? If that is the case then why did this fight do nearly 800,000 more homes than any of DeLaHoya's previous fights???

[TFK]

This post is sheer ignorance. The undercard would not have meant ANYthing. And I guess this guy thinks Mayweather had nothing to do with the numbers at all? If that is the case then why did this fight do nearly 800,000 more homes than any of DeLaHoya's previous fights???

Every boxing forum you go to, people are bitching about the undercard and the price.

If you don't think improving an overall product would make more people want to buy it, then I don't know what to tell you.

And as far as Floyd goes, his next fight, if it isn't a rematch with Oscar, I'd be willing to bet doesn't get anywhere near a million PPV buys. Not even close.

TFK

[Father of Muzse]

This post is sheer ignorance. The undercard would not have meant ANYthing. And I guess this guy thinks Mayweather had nothing to do with the numbers at all? If that is the case then why did this fight do nearly 800,000 more homes than any of DeLaHoya's previous fights???


$20 million in adverting?

:dunno:

Here's the problem Neil...

The fight was well marketed and it was a good fight...

"However"

Most people I've spoken with feel let down. The amount of shit Floyd talked didn't mess with how he fought. For those who saw him fight for the first time, it was a disappoint in terms of action.

"Like I said before"

Floyd talked like Tyson, fought like Willie Pep.

if you talk that kind of shit, you better blitz a guy like Pac got Morales in the 3rd fight.

[Neil]

With Liddell and Couture nearing their end age-wise, it'll be interesting to see who will take the UFC forward, considering alot of international fighters are coming onto the scene. Are the americans ready to embrace brazilian fighters like Noguira and Silva? From the looks of it and the receptions they've been getting, not yet.


One reason UFC is big is because it has a great deal of its fighters who are white.

[Neil]

Every boxing forum you go to, people are bitching about the undercard and the price.

and they were among the 2.15 million



And as far as Floyd goes, his next fight, if it isn't a rematch with Oscar, I'd be willing to bet doesn't get anywhere near a million PPV buys. Not even close.

TFK

Wow arent you a shrewd gambler.

[Father of Muzse]

One reason UFC is big is because it has a great deal of its fighters who are white.

RACIST!!!!

You're only saying that because you're white.

:tease:

[Neil]

$20 million in adverting?

:dunno:

Here's the problem Neil...

The fight was well marketed and it was a good fight...

"However"

Most people I've spoken with feel let down. The amount of shit Floyd talked didn't mess with how he fought. For those who saw him fight for the first time, it was a disappoint in terms of action.

"Like I said before"

Floyd talked like Tyson, fought like Willie Pep.

if you talk that kind of shit, you better blitz a guy like Pac got Morales in the 3rd fight.


Well I told anyone who asked me about the fight that floyd would win easily, it would not be an action fight, DeLaHoya would not land many clean shots, and DeLaHoya would not be able to land any hard hooks. It was more competitive than I expected and slightly more entertaining (for those who enjoy seeing a guy miss wild arm punches).

I doubt HBO spent 20 million dollars to market this bout either. I really dont care if casual fans were expecting some sort of slugfest because they heard what floyd was saying. To me the game of boxing is dying anyhow and Im not at all upset that these folks were left disappointed.

Mayweather is not going to be exciting above 140lbs unless he is facing a guy who has below average punch resistence. He is still hard to beat but to win against solid fighters at welterweight or above he needs to fight cautiously.

It is a shame Cotto (Arum) and Hatton didnt have the balls to face him at junior welter because those were the fights that would have been exciting and meaningful.

[Father of Muzse]

Well I told anyone who asked me about the fight that floyd would win easily, it would not be an action fight, DeLaHoya would not land many clean shots, and DeLaHoya would not be able to land any hard hooks. It was more competitive than I expected and slightly more entertaining (for those who enjoy seeing a guy miss wild arm punches).

I doubt HBO spent 20 million dollars to market this bout either. I really dont care if casual fans were expecting some sort of slugfest because they heard what floyd was saying. To me the game of boxing is dying anyhow and Im not at all upset that these folks were left disappointed.
Mayweather is not going to be exciting above 140lbs unless he is facing a guy who has below average punch resistence. He is still hard to beat but to win against solid fighters at welterweight or above he needs to fight cautiously.

It is a shame Cotto (Arum) and Hatton didnt have the balls to face him at junior welter because those were the fights that would have been exciting and meaningful.

The next time you cite the popularity you think Mayweather has, I hope you remember your own words.

Mayweather's words might have helped sell the fight, but his fight game was a leading factor in the disappointment which came out of it.

I also find it hilarious that Floyd ridiculed and downgraded Oscar for beating faded guys like Camacho, Whitaker and Chavez while completely forgetting that Oscar's a year older now than Witaker and Chavez were when he faced them.

Both guys are hypocrites and assholes.

We know you love Oscar De La Pattycake, Neil...fess up.

[Neil]

Apparently you dont need to be exciting in the ring to become popular. Trinidad sure as shit wasnt exciting against DeLaHoya, he was inept! Yet that was the fight that launched him into becoming a PPV attraction. Same goes for Hopkins, his fight with DeLaHoya sucked for the most part as well.

Mayweather didnt put on an exciting slugfest but i guarantee that whole fiasco boosted his stock and he will sell more PPVs in his next bout (against whoever) than he did against Baldomir, Judah or Gatti. I was hoping Floyd could put on a better show, but lets face it the guy is not a welterweight.

[Father of Muzse]

Apparently you dont need to be exciting in the ring to become popular. Trinidad sure as shit wasnt exciting against DeLaHoya, he was inept! Yet that was the fight that launched him into becoming a PPV attraction. Same goes for Hopkins, his fight with DeLaHoya sucked for the most part as well.

Mayweather didnt put on an exciting slugfest but i guarantee that whole fiasco boosted his stock and he will sell more PPVs in his next bout (against whoever) than he did against Baldomir, Judah or Gatti. I was hoping Floyd could put on a better show, but lets face it the guy is not a welterweight.

Trinidad knocked people out before and after he fought Oscar. How is that boring?

Hopkins isn't "popular"by any means.

PPV's are pretty much flat. They all come in around the same number which is why DLH-Mayorga doing just under 1 million buys was such a shock.

What are you talking about?

[Neil]

Trinidad and Hopkins both became credible pay per view fighters after facing DeLahoya in fights that failed to measure up to the numbers Mayweather's fight with DeLaHoya did.

Mayweather was already a credible pay per view fighter prior to facing DeLaHoya, so this fight will boost his stock. Watch and see.

[Father of Muzse]

Trinidad and Hopkins both became credible pay per view fighters after facing DeLahoya in fights that failed to measure up to the numbers Mayweather's fight with DeLaHoya did.

Mayweather was already a credible pay per view fighter prior to facing DeLaHoya, so this fight will boost his stock. Watch and see.

We will see...

"Like I said before"

How Mayweather talked vs how he fought didn't match. Truth be told, it was a borderline bitch move.

In the end, I guess it worked out well. Oscar lost so we're left to listen to him bitch once again. His legacy will clearly show he couldn't win a big fight and Floyd's ego has been elevated to such a point that when he gets his ass whupped, it'll mentally fracture him.

It'll all work out in the end. :bears:

BTW...since you're so down on boxing...am I to guess that when Floyd exits stage left, you'll carry his cape?

[Neil]

Floyd's ego has been elevated to such a point that when he gets his ass whupped, it'll mentally fracture him.



Mayweather will retire unbeaten. Who is out there to beat him?

Is Mosley's tooth still aching or will his korean jefita actually let him take the fight if it is offered to him again?

[Father of Muzse]

Mayweather will retire unbeaten. Who is out there to beat him?

Is Mosley's tooth still aching or will he actually take the fight if it is offered to him again?

Get real Neil...you know what Mosley didn't take the fight. Mayweather will only retire unbeaten if he retires tonight.

Good grief.

BTW...you must admit...the shit talking at the press conferences between Mosley and Mayweather would be hilarious!!!!

Mind you...when I say "Mosley" I mean Jin Mosley, not Shane. :laughing:

"However"

Jin might need to watch herself...based on Floyd's history...he might get angry and backhand her (not that I'd mind)

[slystaff]

Get real Neil...you know what Mosley didn't take the fight. Mayweather will only retire unbeaten if he retires tonight.

Good grief.

BTW...you must admit...the shit talking at the press conferences between Mosley and Mayweather would be hilarious!!!!

Mind you...when I say "Mosley" I mean Jin Mosley, not Shane. :laughing:

"However"

Jin might need to watch herself...based on Floyd's history...he might get angry and backhand her (not that I'd mind)

Jin Mosley's quite sexy! Shane did well.

After the fight, and Floyd's total ownership of Shane, Jin's going to be Floyd's mistress.

[Double L]

.....

It'll all work out in the end. :bears:

....


:lol::lol::lol::laughing::laughing:

[Inside Whiskey's sister 24/7]

One reason UFC is big is because it has a great deal of its fighters who are white.

TRUE...

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Anything's possible. Although I don't know if you're accurate about the UFC continuing to grow and grow and grow. Nothing keeps growing. Everything always fizzles out. It'll peak and like any other sport, it will have its good and bad times. Even Pro Wrestling was blazing in the late 90s.
10 years down the road, it'll probably be just another sport like pro boxing and pro wrestling.
Soon though, as the whole hype of cage-fighting wears thin, the UFC will need to rely on star power to market its shows the same way boxing does.
Viewer interest always declines after a while. With Liddell and Couture nearing their end age-wise, it'll be interesting to see who will take the UFC forward, considering alot of international fighters are coming onto the scene. Are the americans ready to embrace brazilian fighters like Noguira and Silva? From the looks of it and the receptions they've been getting, not yet.
UFC numbers will be down when Chuck goes. He is by far the most entertaining fighter and biggest star.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

$20 million in adverting?

:dunno:

Here's the problem Neil...

The fight was well marketed and it was a good fight...

"However"

Most people I've spoken with feel let down. The amount of shit Floyd talked didn't mess with how he fought. For those who saw him fight for the first time, it was a disappoint in terms of action.

"Like I said before"

Floyd talked like Tyson, fought like Willie Pep.

if you talk that kind of shit, you better blitz a guy like Pac got Morales in the 3rd fight.
What do you expect Floyd to say. Im gonna stick and move all night. Thats really gonna get people excited.:rolleyes: