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Alabama_Man
05-11-2007, 01:32 PM
I was watching ABS-CBN yesterday and Bob Arum came on to my surprise. It was pretty cool to see Arum wearing traditional clothing of the P.I.

Bob Arum spoke in General Santos City where Manny Pacquiao is currently campaigning for Congress in the P.I.

He said that a fight with Marquez (the one we all want) would be difficult to get because of the current problems with GBP and more importantly Marquez doesn't have a fanbase and is demanding ridiculous money for a potential fight with Manny. Keep in mind Marquez is a fighter who once fought for $30,000 and traveled to Indonesia to avoid Manny in a rematch.

But he did say that Sycuan Promotions is interested in putting Guzman into the ring with Manny, all the details aren't worked out yet of course but their have been meetings.

Edwin Valero is also being looked at as a potential opponent, but it would have to be outside of the U.S. I like this one because of the raw power involved.

Humberto Soto is being looked at, but he needs to get past Bobby Pacquiao.

MAB may be considered if he leaves GBP as he has claimed he might.

I think out of those potential four, Valero and Guzman seem to be the best options. I think Valero is too raw to have more than a puncher's chance. Guzman would be difficult but I think fatboy has overrated power, and would get manhandled after finding out he can't choose his spots to "shoe shine."

p.s - Any second now, LATIN QUEER is going to bust into this thread (he's a big Manny lover) and start spouting nonsense. If he does, just remember, he has posted gems like this in the past:

On Jorge Arce vs Mijares (Arce went on to get his ass kicked)

No one under batam beats arce!

On Solis's chances against Pacquiao (Solis was KTFO)

I heard Solis was like marquez if that's true he'll probably get schooled...

On Rey Bautista's chances against Medina (Medina did well but got his ass kicked losing a wide decision)

Boom boom another lumpia about to get exposed!

This guy knows absolutely nothing about boxing. :lol:

Erratic
05-11-2007, 01:33 PM
Pacquiao-Marquez 2 definitely I want to see. It should have happened 2-3 years ago.

Hex-One
05-11-2007, 01:36 PM
I want to see a Barrera rematch. I wonder if Barrera can make the proper adjustments to win a rematch.

Erratic
05-11-2007, 01:38 PM
I want to see a Barrera rematch. I wonder if Barrera can make the proper adjustments to win a rematch.

Proper adjustments= paying off the judges, referee, removing the padding from his gloves, drugging Pacquiao.

Pacquiao would maim Barrera again and Jim Lampley would cry on the air, again.

Hex-One
05-11-2007, 01:39 PM
Proper adjustments= paying off the judges, referee, removing the padding from his gloves, drugging Pacquiao.

Pacquiao would maim Barrera again and Jim Lampley would cry on the air, again.Barrera is a great fighter and I will always give him a chance! He can box and brawl when nessesary.

Erratic
05-11-2007, 01:43 PM
Barrera is a great fighter and I will always give him a chance! He can box and brawl when nessesary.

Barrera is a great fighter but I think Pacquiao is all wrong for him. Plus Barrera is slipping at his age after all the tough fights.

I would be dissapointed if Pacquiao fought Barrera again. It's a big money fight and all so I can see why Manny's team would want to have a rematch, but from a boxing fan's view, there's other fights I'd much rather see before that one.

Alabama_Man
05-11-2007, 01:45 PM
I think MAB-Pacquiao would probably do the best PPV figures. But in terms of what means more, I think Valero or Guzman would be the best matchups.

I'm excited by the prospects of both. :cool:

Free Ike
05-11-2007, 01:49 PM
Valero. End of thread. He already humiliated and dominated MARQUEZ AND Barrera. No need for a rematch. Marquez got a gift draw and he is happy with it.

Alabama_Man
05-11-2007, 01:56 PM
Valero. End of thread. He already humiliated and dominated MARQUEZ AND Barrera. No need for a rematch. Marquez got a gift draw and he is happy with it.

:lol:

I agree. Fagquez was on the floor and had plenty of time to think about it. I just want Faquez to get bounced off the canvas 3 more times so LATIN QUEER can go ahead and kill himself. He's right on the edge as it is.

IMDAZED
05-11-2007, 02:14 PM
It would be nice if these super feathers fought a legit super feather. With all due respect to Manny, the Barrera victory was when, four years ago? Since then, he's fought Morales 3 times, drawn with Marquez (in a fight he woulda lost via WIDE UD if not for an incredible first round), and beaten a slew of overmatched, smaller opponents. And he's been rocked a few times. What happens if a natural super feather, someone like Humberto Soto, rocks him?

Here's to hoping that fight goes down.

Alabama_Man
05-11-2007, 02:19 PM
It would be nice if these super feathers fought a legit super feather. With all due respect to Manny, the Barrera victory was when, four years ago? Since then, he's fought Morales 3 times, drawn with Marquez (in a fight he woulda lost via WIDE UD if not for an incredible first round), and beaten a slew of overmatched, smaller opponents. And he's been rocked a few times. What happens if a natural super feather, someone like Humberto Soto, rocks him?

Here's to hoping that fight goes down.

Manny himself is not even a legit superfeather. He could make featherweight with ease.

Since Barrera he fought Larios, Morales x3, Solis (who was obviously bigger), and Fagquez. Morales, Solis, and Velasquez were ALL legit 130 pounders. I don't know where you get off saying he's fighting "smaller" guys. He was the first one to KO Morals and Solis. As for Fagquez , Yawn was lucky to get a draw.

LATIN KING
05-11-2007, 03:17 PM
who is obsessed with who? Look at your sig and avatar! Jesus Christ:lol:


MAB might be a bigger draw than JMM but why knock JMM for not making the fight when MAB has had more time to make the rematch happened. Not to mention JMM just beat MAB.:lol:

VAlero is a fun fight but he is so unproven.

By the way when did MAB say he might leave GDB? or did ARum just said it just beacause.

Honda who promotes Valero not to long ago said VAlero wouldn't fight Pacquiao this year, that he needed at least 3 fights this year before that one. All of a sudden that changed?

Guzman just injured himself and was already gonna fight at 135.

Again Arum spits all this bullshit and Bama girls swallows it like it's Pacquiao releasing his fluids. :laughing:

Manny will end up fighting Soto not because he is the best fight available but because he is a Top Rank fighter and because he will soon beat the hell out of bobby and that will justify another meaningless PPV according to ARum.:lol:

Free Ike
05-11-2007, 03:22 PM
who is obsessed with who? Look at your sig and avatar! Jesus Christ:lol:


MAB might be a bigger draw than JMM but why knock JMM for not making the fight when MAB has had more time to make the rematch happened. Not to mention JMM just beat MAB.:lol:

VAlero is a fun fight but he is so unproven.

By the way when did MAB say he might leave GDB? or did ARum just said it just beacause.

Honda who promotes Valero not to long ago said VAlero wouldn't fight Pacquiao this year, that he needed at least 3 fights this year before that one. All of a sudden that changed?

Guzman just injured himself and was already gonna fight at 135.

Again Arum spits all this bullshit and Bama girls swallows it like it's Pacquiao releasing his fluids. :laughing:

Manny will end up fighting Soto not because he is the best fight available but because he is a Top Rank fighter and because he will soon beat the hell out of bobby and that will justify another meaningless PPV according to ARum.:lol:
I think watchig Manny Pacquiao take a shit is more relevant and exciting than watching Juan Queerquez fight.

LATIN KING
05-11-2007, 03:46 PM
I think watchig Manny Pacquiao take a shit is more relevant and exciting than watching Juan Queerquez fight.if watching Candelo gave you orgasms I'm sure watching that one trick pony take a shit will bring you ecstasy.:laughing:

Free Ike
05-11-2007, 03:55 PM
if watching Candelo gave you orgasms I'm sure watching that one trick pony take a shit will bring you ecstasy.:laughing:
Candelo is twice as exciting as your gay little Asian lover. Did Candelo get caught with some Asian tranny's tongue in his ear?

steve_dave
05-11-2007, 04:57 PM
I want to see him fight Valero for the first round alone. Would be fun to see who lands first.

LATIN KING
05-11-2007, 04:58 PM
Candelo is twice as exciting as your gay little Asian lover. Did Candelo get caught with some Asian tranny's tongue in his ear?Candelo also has less talent than Manfredo :lol:

you hate on JMM, Pernell, Leonard. You don't like talented fighters do you?:dunno:

I bet you used to watch them toughman fighters on fox. :slap:

LATIN KING
05-11-2007, 04:59 PM
I want to see him fight Valero for the first round alone. Would be fun to see who lands first.that would be fun. I heard Valero's next fight might be in the US but he has to get medical clearance first.

Free Ike
05-11-2007, 05:00 PM
Candelo also has less talent than Manfredo :lol:

you hate on JMM, Pernell, Leonard. You don't like talented fighters do you?:dunno:

I bet you used to watch them toughman fighters on fox. :slap:
MARQUEZ is gay. He wonders why he is not popular and he gets caught frenching men.

Double L
05-11-2007, 05:01 PM
Soto is fighting B. Pacquiao on Cotto/Judah under-card.

jarhead
05-11-2007, 05:15 PM
If his next fight is for as much cash as he can make, MAB. (he may want to make this, MAB won't be around too much longer.)

If it is personal for him it could be JMM.

If he wants the toughest fight out there currently for him, I think its Guzman.

steve_dave
05-11-2007, 05:20 PM
Soto is fighting B. Pacquiao on Cotto/Judah under-card.

I really like Soto. I don't mind Pacquiao/Marquez II if it has to happen... but after that, I wanna see Pacquiao vs. the guys of TODAY.

Alabama_Man
05-11-2007, 05:23 PM
who is obsessed with who? Look at your sig and avatar! Jesus Christ:lol:

MAB might be a bigger draw than JMM but why knock JMM for not making the fight when MAB has had more time to make the rematch happened. Not to mention JMM just beat MAB.:lol:

VAlero is a fun fight but he is so unproven.

By the way when did MAB say he might leave GDB? or did ARum just said it just beacause.

Honda who promotes Valero not to long ago said VAlero wouldn't fight Pacquiao this year, that he needed at least 3 fights this year before that one. All of a sudden that changed?

Guzman just injured himself and was already gonna fight at 135.

Again Arum spits all this bullshit and Bama girls swallows it like it's Pacquiao releasing his fluids. :laughing:

Manny will end up fighting Soto not because he is the best fight available but because he is a Top Rank fighter and because he will soon beat the hell out of bobby and that will justify another meaningless PPV according to ARum.:lol:

Ah LATIN QUEER has arrived. All you have to say is Pacquiao and this jealous queer comes running into the thread to spread his Manny love all over the thread.

First off, Valero said he wants Pacquiao and that's the biggest fight for Valero. Valero is just waiting to get exposed he knows he has to cash in now or never.

Guzman is not injured, only an idiot would think he's "injured". The reason his fight with Katsidis was cancelled is because he can't make fucking weight because he is a fat body who doesn't take his career seriously.

But at least he wasn't caught on camera playing rub back mountain with a small asian man like Yawn Fagquez was. :lol:

Alabama_Man
05-11-2007, 05:27 PM
Candelo also has less talent than Manfredo :lol:

you hate on JMM, Pernell, Leonard. You don't like talented fighters do you?:dunno:

I bet you used to watch them toughman fighters on fox. :slap:

Comparing Yawn Queerquez to Pernell and Leonard? :lol:

I doubt Pernell or Leonard would get put on Queerstreet by Freddie Norwood. :laughing:

Free Ike
05-11-2007, 05:29 PM
Comparing Yawn Queerquez to Pernell and Leonard? :lol:

I doubt Pernell or Leonard would get put on Queerstreet by Freddie Norwood. :laughing:
Or get caught being a queer on a cell phone.

steve_dave
05-11-2007, 05:33 PM
Or get caught being a queer on a cell phone.

:lol: Those pics were hillarious.

IMDAZED
05-11-2007, 05:38 PM
I really like Soto. I don't mind Pacquiao/Marquez II if it has to happen... but after that, I wanna see Pacquiao vs. the guys of TODAY.

:bears:

steve_dave
05-11-2007, 05:42 PM
MAB and Marquez are both yesterday's paper.

Alabama_Man
05-11-2007, 05:43 PM
:lol: Those pics were hillarious.

Yes they were. :lol:

I think HBO should do a 24/7 for the Pacquiao-Fagquez rematch so we can see how these guys train. Here's my guess for how Fagquez trains.

6am-8am - Jogging/Road Work
8am-9am - Breakfast
9am-10am - Deep tissue massage from Johnny Chan
10am-12pm - Non-ejaculatory sex (to get all the tension out), suggested by Oscar Dela Hoya
12pm-1pm - Nap
1pm-4pm - Nude Steam room session with conditioning coach Johnny Chan to cut weight
4pm-6pm - Sparring
6pm-8pm - Footrub session and then nude hot tub meeting to discuss "strategy"

osfan
05-12-2007, 02:39 AM
Ah LATIN QUEER has arrived. All you have to say is Pacquiao and this jealous queer comes running into the thread to spread his Manny love all over the thread.

First off, Valero said he wants Pacquiao and that's the biggest fight for Valero. Valero is just waiting to get exposed he knows he has to cash in now or never.

Guzman is not injured, only an idiot would think he's "injured". The reason his fight with Katsidis was cancelled is because he can't make fucking weight because he is a fat body who doesn't take his career seriously.

But at least he wasn't caught on camera playing rub back mountain with a small asian man like Yawn Fagquez was. :lol:


:lol: :lol:

LATIN KING
05-12-2007, 02:41 AM
:warning:

D MAN
05-12-2007, 03:17 PM
Marquez for sure

StingerKarl
05-12-2007, 03:30 PM
Manny vs Valero would look like the finals in the sub novice division in the Golden Gloves, and it would be fun while it lasts.
I see Manny brutally KO'ing this guy.

Tam Tam
05-12-2007, 06:10 PM
I wouldn't mind any of them actually. That said, I'd rather see Soto than any of the others.

Matchup_Analyzer
05-12-2007, 06:40 PM
Bobby Pac IMO will probably be competitive for a couple rounds against Soto, but I expect the latter to destroy him, Manny Pac should be fighting Soto.

I have no idea why Bobby was matched with Soto, he'd make an excellent fight with a Fana or a Peden instead

Tam Tam
05-12-2007, 07:12 PM
Bobby Pac IMO will probably be competitive for a couple rounds against Soto, but I expect the latter to destroy him, Manny Pac should be fighting Soto.

I have no idea why Bobby was matched with Soto, he'd make an excellent fight with a Fana or a Peden instead
Robbie is retired.

slystaff
05-12-2007, 08:24 PM
Barrera is a great fighter and I will always give him a chance! He can box and brawl when nessesary.
he has NO CHANCE against pacquaio. Marquex had him in serious trouble...what do you think Pacman will do. Pacquaio is twice the fighter now than he was in the first fight...and Barrera has since slipped.

I like Pacman in 6 rounds in a rematch...

royyjonesjrp4pno1
05-12-2007, 08:45 PM
I seriously dout he will fight Guzman at 135. He wouldn't fight Morales at 132.

Mitchell Kane
05-12-2007, 08:46 PM
Bobby Pac IMO will probably be competitive for a couple rounds against Soto, but I expect the latter to destroy him, Manny Pac should be fighting Soto.

I have no idea why Bobby was matched with Soto, he'd make an excellent fight with a Fana or a Peden instead

Soto-Bobby was probably made to set the groundwork for Pac-Soto later this year.

That's the easiest fight for Arum/Top Rank to make.

steve_dave
05-13-2007, 01:59 AM
I wouldn't mind any of them actually. That said, I'd rather see Soto than any of the others.

Pacquiao/Soto is a fantastic fight.

Roll With The Punches
05-13-2007, 05:45 AM
who wants to see him fight MAB again :notallthere:

that fight already happened.........what sort of a pussy bully would make a huge effort to fight someone they already whooped
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lb 4 lb
05-13-2007, 06:48 AM
who is obsessed with who? Look at your sig and avatar! Jesus Christ:lol:


MAB might be a bigger draw than JMM but why knock JMM for not making the fight when MAB has had more time to make the rematch happened. Not to mention JMM just beat MAB.:lol:

VAlero is a fun fight but he is so unproven.

By the way when did MAB say he might leave GDB? or did ARum just said it just beacause.

Honda who promotes Valero not to long ago said VAlero wouldn't fight Pacquiao this year, that he needed at least 3 fights this year before that one. All of a sudden that changed?

Guzman just injured himself and was already gonna fight at 135.

Again Arum spits all this bullshit and Bama girls swallows it like it's Pacquiao releasing his fluids. :laughing:

Manny will end up fighting Soto not because he is the best fight available but because he is a Top Rank fighter and because he will soon beat the hell out of bobby and that will justify another meaningless PPV according to ARum.
Great point right here and you're right too, Soto is going to fistfuck Bobby. Seriously, this is such a mismatch, after this fight Soto's going to be doing his post fight interview with the police rather than Merchant, and Arum's going to have to face premeditated murder charges. Bobby's going to get ruined from this fight and I'm surprised his brother is letting him be feed to the dogs like this.

I hate Guzman and also believe he has weight issues, he's a pudgeball. I'd rather see Manny face Soto which I believe is the toughest and best matchup for both guys.

Bruce
05-16-2007, 01:52 PM
Manny vs Valero would look like the finals in the sub novice division in the Golden Gloves, and it would be fun while it lasts.
I see Manny brutally KO'ing this guy.

:lol: :lol: agree, it would be fun while it lasts.

jarhead
05-16-2007, 01:59 PM
I am in the boat that says any of them would be great. My preference would have to be Soto or Valero just for pure entertainment.:bears:

*Z*
05-16-2007, 02:10 PM
Manny vs Valero would look like the finals in the sub novice division in the Golden Gloves, and it would be fun while it lasts.
I see Manny brutally KO'ing this guy.

Not every fighter can be perfectly textbook. You always rip Manny and Valero for looking like amatuers, but they would both tear any amatuers a new asshole. Fact is, both guys are effective. Doesn't matter how pretty it looks, it works.

*Z*
05-16-2007, 02:11 PM
Valero vs Pac would be a great fight. For as long as it lasted. Valero is no joke, pac sure as hell wouldn't walk through this guy.

jarhead
05-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Not every fighter can be perfectly textbook. You always rip Manny and Valero for looking like amatuers, but they would both tear any amatuers a new asshole. Fact is, both guys are effective. Doesn't matter how pretty it looks, it works.

The fact is, Manny has a chance to be that star we talk about. his style is perfect, he just needs to be on bigger stages in the U.S. Call it amatuerish if you may, most call it exciting.:cheer:

Mean Mr Mustard
05-16-2007, 02:19 PM
I want to see him put Marquez on a stretcher.
Why?
a) he looks weird
b) he's shit-scared of Pac

Alabama_Man
05-16-2007, 02:24 PM
I want to see him put Marquez on a stretcher.
Why?
a) he looks weird
b) he's shit-scared of Pac

Also Queerquez was caught getting naked in a sauna room with his asian boyfriend on a cell phone. :doh:

*Z*
05-16-2007, 02:34 PM
The fact is, Manny has a chance to be that star we talk about. his style is perfect, he just needs to be on bigger stages in the U.S. Call it amatuerish if you may, most call it exciting.:cheer:

To be a true star Manny would need to weigh about 147 pounds or more. :lol:

Rubio MHS
05-16-2007, 11:58 PM
To be a true star Manny would need to weigh about 147 pounds or more. :lol:Julio Cesar Chavez only rarely fought above 140.

LATIN KING
05-17-2007, 12:41 AM
Ah LATIN QUEER has arrived. All you have to say is Pacquiao and this jealous queer comes running into the thread to spread his Manny love all over the thread.

First off, Valero said he wants Pacquiao and that's the biggest fight for Valero. Valero is just waiting to get exposed he knows he has to cash in now or never.

Guzman is not injured, only an idiot would think he's "injured". The reason his fight with Katsidis was cancelled is because he can't make fucking weight because he is a fat body who doesn't take his career seriously.

But at least he wasn't caught on camera playing rub back mountain with a small asian man like Yawn Fagquez was. :lol:yeah any idiot can see Guzman can't make 135 so you put him as a possible oponent for Pacquiao? :lol:

what weight are they suposed to fight pendejo? 140?:lol:

you owned yourself on this thread maricon :laughing:

Alabama_Man
05-17-2007, 12:59 AM
yeah any idiot can see Guzman can't make 135 so you put him as a possible oponent for Pacquiao? :lol:

what weight are they suposed to fight pendejo? 140?:lol:

you owned yourself on this thread maricon :laughing:

Hey Pepe, you already responded to that same post TWICE now. Stop trying to suck me off at every turn. I already have too many of these fags trying to do that as it is. :cool:

Rubio MHS
05-17-2007, 01:13 AM
Didn't you start this exact same topic two weeks ago, only with Juan Diaz? After his last win, you probably figured that your boy doesn't stand a chance.

Which he doesn't.

Alabama_Man
05-17-2007, 01:17 AM
Didn't you start this exact same topic two weeks ago, only with Juan Diaz? After his last win, you probably figured that your boy doesn't stand a chance.

Which he doesn't.

Is it true you type here at fightbeat with a rubber tube tied around your left arm? :eeeek:

Rubio MHS
05-17-2007, 01:27 AM
I was pretty badly addicted last year, but it was on prescription drugs, and I quit them (with difficulty) when my doctor suggested I do so.

Diaz KO3 Pacquiao

Alabama_Man
05-17-2007, 01:33 AM
I was pretty badly addicted last year, but it was on prescription drugs, and I quit them (with difficulty) when my doctor suggested I do so.

Diaz KO3 Pacquiao

That's unfortunate.

Jenny Craig KO3 Diaz

Son of Payton
05-17-2007, 06:16 AM
Latin King & Alabama Man...you've been warned about this shit already (Alabama Man, you've been getting into it with mikE in the "want to invest in a champion" thread as well).

Knock it off, or you're gone for 10 days.