Why is Winky Favored over Hopkins??

[Ron King 702]

Hopkins is +110 at MGM book. He seems to have every physical advantage over Winky.

As of right now, im placing a sick man's wager on Hopkins. Someone talk me out of it.
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[Mean Mr Mustard]

Isn't Hopkins, like, 45 or something?
:dunno:

[Tam Tam]

Nobody would care enough about you to talk you out of swallowing a barrel of a .45, hun...so please do hold your breath waiting on this one.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Nobody would care enough about you to talk you out of swallowing a barrel of a .45, hun...so please do hold your breath waiting on this one.:lol:

[His_Royness]

Maybe it's because Winky throws more than 5 punches a round... :dunno:

[lb 4 lb]

I think Hopkins could easily win this fight. Lately Wright has felt the need to dispense with his more defensive style and instead brawl unnecessarily. It's the reason he drew with JT instead of easily winning a decision. Most probably find this new Winky more entertaining but somehow for me he's been less. On top of that I think it's stupid, so I find myself rooting against him. Go B-hops!

[dsimon3387]

Hopkins is +110 at MGM book. He seems to have every physical advantage over Winky.

As of right now, im placing a sick man's wager on Hopkins. Someone talk me out of it.

dsimon writes:

The fight is a toss up. Both guys are great. Hopkins has been off his horse a while longer.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I think Hopkins could easily win this fight. Lately Wright has felt the need to dispense with his more defensive style and instead brawl unnecessarily. It's the reason he drew with JT instead of easily winning a decision. Most probably find this new Winky more entertaining but somehow for me he's been less. On top of that I think it's stupid, so I find myself rooting against him. Go B-hops!He has always fought that way.

[Double L]

it's probably based on age and the fact that Hopkins can't maintain a good pace anymore. he beat Tarver easily because he was allowed to fight when he wanted, and to pick his shots. but Winky's pressure and durability could prove too much for a 42 year old.

still, the x factor of winky fighting at 172 is what i can't dismiss. he's never fought anywhere close to 172 - he never even settled into 160 fully if you ask me.

it's a tough fight to call. i think that's why the odds are close to even.

[lb 4 lb]

He has always fought that way.
Yeah, especially in the Trinidad and Mosley fights when neither guy could lay a glove on him.

[Double L]

He has always fought that way.

i agree.

but against JT there was some extra aggression for the simple fact that Taylor is so tall.

still, basically i agree. dating back to the Vargas fight, winky has had a high guard, come forward, short offensive jab style.

[lb 4 lb]

i agree.

but against JT there was some extra aggression for the simple fact that Taylor is so tall.

still, basically i agree. dating back to the Vargas fight, winky has had a high guard, come forward, short offensive jab style.
Yeah, he's always fought like that, but lately he's been way more dispenseful of his high guard. Against Quartey, whom he probably thought he could take out, and against JT. Also the Vargas fight was another fight where he dispensed with the high guard, and lost.

[whiskey]

Maybe it's because Winky throws more than 5 punches a round... :dunno:

Precisely. This one is all but guaranteed to go the distance so the more active guy often gets the nod.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Maybe it's because Winky throws more than 5 punches a round... :dunno:

:lol: Beat me to it.

[Jake]

I;m hoping more people - specifically, more bettors - believe Hopkins as a slight underdog is absurd. This way they'll drive the odds in his favor and I can get a bet on Wink when he's the underdog.

[Double L]

I;m hoping more people - specifically, more bettors - believe Hopkins as a slight underdog is absurd. This way they'll drive the odds in his favor and I can get a bet on Wink when he's the underdog.

yeah. now is definitely not the time to place bets on Winky.

[dymipepel]

Hopkins is +110 at MGM book. He seems to have every physical advantage over Winky.

As of right now, im placing a sick man's wager on Hopkins. Someone talk me out of it.

Well, as you once said, Vargas would demolish Hopkins, so it's only natural that Wright is favored over B-Hop.

[Hex-One]

This is going to be a very boring fight:shit:

[Neil]

I;m hoping more people - specifically, more bettors - believe Hopkins as a slight underdog is absurd. This way they'll drive the odds in his favor and I can get a bet on Wink when he's the underdog. jake-what do you think about winky being forced to wear reyes?

[Double L]

i think this fight will be exciting. Winky will make Hopkins fight.

[jarhead]

This fight just makes no sense for me from Hops perspective. If he wins, he's supposed to. But if he does win it will probably be a very un-entertaining fight as it is very hard to look good against Winky. If he loses, it puts him out contention for fights with many and people start clamoring that he should have stayed retired. I was really hoping he'd cross the pond and fight Calzaghe.(thats if Joe would do it)

[Haymaker]

Well, winky "beat" Taylor more convincingly than hops, also the quartey fight is still fresh in the people's minds. That explains the odds

[Barristan]

jake-what do you think about winky being forced to wear reyes?
When he punches Hopkins in the grill it will hurt more. Winkys going to smash old man river.

[Double L]

jake-what do you think about winky being forced to wear reyes?

more than anything, that can detract significantly from his ability to block punches. i would think a fighter like Winky would want Grant gloves to provide maximum coverage with his defense.

[Alabama_Man]

i think this fight will be exciting. Winky will make Hopkins fight.

If this fight is exciting I'll stop talking about the 10oz glove issue with you. :cool:

[Double L]

If this fight is exciting I'll stop talking about the 10oz glove issue with you. :cool:

was Wright/Taylor exciting? was Hopkins/Tarver exciting?

[Alabama_Man]

was Wright/Taylor exciting? was Hopkins/Tarver exciting?

No, and those fights included other fighters.

Bore-nard and Stinky are the two most boring fighters in the middleweight division.

[Double L]

No, and those fights included other fighters.

Bore-nard and Stinky are the two most boring fighters in the middleweight division.

well if you didn't find either of those fights entertaining than you're right, there's no hope for Wright/Hopkins.

[valdosta]

No, and those fights included other fighters.

Bore-nard and Stinky are the two most boring fighters in the middleweight division.

What was boring about Taylor-Wright? Wright is the most exciting guy that I have ever saw called boring over and over. The guy throws a lot of punches and typically presses the fight yet he is so boring to some people. :rolleyes:

[Alabama_Man]

What was boring about Taylor-Wright? Wright is the most exciting guy that I have ever saw called boring over and over. The guy throws a lot of punches and typically presses the fight yet he is so boring to some people. :rolleyes:

He's not boring because he doesn't throw punches. All of Stinky's fights are the same... predictable, no x-factor. distance fights. It's just a matter of how many jabs and crosses he'll throw, how many he'll land, and who gets the decision.

[valdosta]

You can be entertaining without having power. Wright's had a lot of good fights with guys like Simon,Taylor,Soliman,Vargas, Mosley II,Candelo etc,etc.... Wright is not a boring fighter.

[Double L]

i think the methodical approach that Winky takes can take away some of the suspense we're used to seeing in a fight. but he is in no way boring.

[Antwuan Maxx]

I honestly think this fight is going to be a lot better than people are expecting. :rolleyes: Winky will be pressing the action throwing punches from the start. He will make Bernard work, unlike Taylor and Tarver. Hopkins will have to throw more than his usual 20 punches a round to break through Winky's guard and to win rounds.


Hopkins-Wright > Hatton-Castillo

[Trplsec]

Well, winky "beat" Taylor more convincingly than hops, also the quartey fight is still fresh in the people's minds. That explains the odds


I thought Winky looked uncharacteristicly hittable in the Quartey fight. It's one of the reasons I think Bernard handles him easily..

I think Wright actually looks and fights like the old fighter right now. On top of that, Bernard has decisive physical advantages in height and reach. The 170 pounds should also favor Bernard.

Unless Hopkins suddenly starts to look 42 overnight, I don't think Wright will beat him.

Unlike Jake, I hope the money stays with Winky so I can bet Bernard as a nice dog...

[Alabama_Man]

You can be entertaining without having power. Wright's had a lot of good fights with guys like Simon,Taylor,Soliman,Vargas, Mosley II,Candelo etc,etc.... Wright is not a boring fighter.

That's your opinion, but this fight is still going to stink. :lol:

[whiskey]

Maybe Winky isn't completely boring, but i can't honestly say i've ever looked forward to any of his fights. This one is no different.

[Double L]

Maybe Winky isn't completely boring, but i can't honestly say i've ever looked forward to any of his fights. This one is no different.

Didn't you look forward to his fight with Trinidad? I know I did, thinking he'd be chopped down for sure. Man was I wrong.

[whiskey]

Didn't you look forward to his fight with Trinidad? I know I did, thinking he'd be chopped down for sure. Man was I wrong.

Not really. I picked Tito, but i thought it would be by decision. I never expected much of the fight either way.

[Rubio MHS]

Didn't you look forward to his fight with Trinidad? I know I did, thinking he'd be chopped down for sure. Man was I wrong.You're always wrong. So what?

[LATIN KING]

Hopkins should beat Winky. I don't care how old he is he will still beat Winky.

At 160 it would have been more competitive but I think the catch weight of 170 will put Winky in disadvantage. :popcorn:

[whiskey]

Hopkins should beat Winky. I don't care how old he is he will still beat Winky.

At 160 it would have been more competitive but I think the catch weight of 170 will put Winky in disadvantage. :popcorn:

Very well could be, especially if the extra weight has an effect on Wright's punch output. Even though i'm favoring Winky, (based mostly on activity level) almost everyone's usual punch output drops against Hopkins.

[Rubio MHS]

Hopkins won't hold much of a size advantage against Wright.

[LOK]

Hopkins will win this

[Xplosive]

I really could care less about this matchup. Had it been made 3-4 years ago it would have had more appeal to me, but at this point I just see it as two old men going at it. Maybe the fight will be exciting, but most likely it wont be, but either way I refuse to pay for it. You know its going the distance anyway, neither one has the power to hurt the other.

[Trplsec]

I really could care less about this matchup. Had it been made 3-4 years ago it would have had more appeal to me, but at this point I just see it as two old men going at it. Maybe the fight will be exciting, but most likely it wont be, but either way I refuse to pay for it. You know its going the distance anyway, neither one has the power to hurt the other.


Perhaps, but both are STILL generally ranked among most people's top P4P fighters in the game..

I just can't believe that the thought of beating Winky Wright at 170 pounds really motivates Hopkins..

[slystaff]

I really could care less about this matchup. Had it been made 3-4 years ago it would have had more appeal to me, but at this point I just see it as two old men going at it. Maybe the fight will be exciting, but most likely it wont be, but either way I refuse to pay for it. You know its going the distance anyway, neither one has the power to hurt the other.

Agreed.

However given that Wright would have zero success against Hopkins in the centre of the ring...Hopkins would simply keep the fight there, dictate the pace, and cruise to an easy decision....busting up Wright's face in the process.

[Double L]

Agreed.

However given that Wright would have zero success against Hopkins in the centre of the ring...Hopkins would simply keep the fight there, dictate the pace, and cruise to an easy decision....busting up Wright's face in the process.

Sly, who are you picking to win this one? I'm curious given your exceptional analytical abilities (which I've dully noted in my signature).

[slystaff]

Sly, who are you picking to win this one? I'm curious given your exceptional analytical abilities (which I've dully noted in my signature).

Obviously Hopkins.

[steve_dave]

Sly, who are you picking to win this one? I'm curious given your exceptional analytical abilities (which I've dully noted in my signature).

You couldn't tell who he was picking from the post?

[Free Ike]

Obviously Hopkins.
Wright it is for me.

[*Z*]

Wright it is for me.

You were picking Winky anyway though. He's simply just going to out work Hopkins. There will be no posing and waiting in this fight.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Who ever loses this decision will do alot of crying.

[slystaff]

You were picking Winky anyway though. He's simply just going to out work Hopkins. There will be no posing and waiting in this fight.

How's he gonna outwork Hopkins when Bernard is the man who'll be setting the pace? Think brother...think!

Wright will be forced to fight at whatever pace Bernard chooses...and if that's a slow pace then so be it.

[Barristan]

How's he gonna outwork Hopkins when Bernard is the man who'll be setting the pace? Think brother...think!

Wright will be forced to fight at whatever pace Bernard chooses...and if that's a slow pace then so be it.
I disagree...I think Wrights ring generalship is on par with Hopkins.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

I got Hopkins by decision, come fight time it should be even, if WInky is still favored over Hopkins then I might be inclined to make a wager