View Full Version : The Jermaine Taylor will beat Kelly Pavlik bandwagon!!
slystaff
05-22-2007, 02:33 PM
Join now while you still can. A lot of people erroneously base a matchup on the last performances of the two potential combatants, instead of looking at the entire picture. That's why nearly everyone picked Sonny Liston to KO Cassius Clay early.
Who here has the vision, to stand with The Sly One, and proclaim that Taylor will successfully defend his title against this brash young contender if ever they meet?
Taylor will use the experience that he's had in fighting boxing's BEST (Hopkins and Wright) as well as his naturaly physical gifts to thwart the plans of the slow punching, easy to hit Pavlik.
Join it now! There'll be no room later..
His_Royness
05-22-2007, 02:44 PM
it could join with the Antonio Tarver bandwagon and would still look something like this...
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/13981/82392/f/514334-Emptiness-0.jpg
Join me my Fightbeat brothers in the "Taylor will avoid Pavlik at all costs" Bandwagon.
:lol:
?H?L?QU?L?$
05-22-2007, 02:49 PM
it could join with the Antonio Tarver bandwagon and would still look something like this...
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/13981/82392/f/514334-Emptiness-0.jpg
:lol:
KaukipRrr
05-22-2007, 02:49 PM
:cheer: Absolutely, my opinion hasn't changed based on last weekend's evidence, Jermaine Taylor (p4p number 1), would beat the fucking moth-balls out of stretch armstrong,.. Taylor schools the one dimensional, slow, plodding, sloppy, closet whisp,...he's a better athlete than Miranda with 50x the skills, and he always rises to the occasion, whipping Bernard and Winky's arse consecutively is evidence of this,..
ElTerriblee
05-22-2007, 02:50 PM
it could join with the Antonio Tarver bandwagon and would still look something like this...
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/13981/82392/f/514334-Emptiness-0.jpg
Is that Roy´s perspective after he ran into Antonio again. :laughing:
Orthodox Crusader
05-22-2007, 02:59 PM
Join now while you still can. A lot of people erroneously base a matchup on the last performances of the two potential combatants, instead of looking at the entire picture. That's why nearly everyone picked Sonny Liston to KO Cassius Clay early.
Who here has the vision, to stand with The Sly One, and proclaim that Taylor will successfully defend his title against this brash young contender if ever they meet?
Taylor will use the experience that he's had in fighting boxing's BEST (Hopkins and Wright) as well as his naturaly physical gifts to thwart the plans of the slow punching, easy to hit Pavlik.
Join it now! There'll be no room later..
Sorry, close this thread, I have Trademark and Copyright on everything you just said. In otherwords, i've been saying it since Sunday.
dsimon3387
05-22-2007, 03:14 PM
Join now while you still can. A lot of people erroneously base a matchup on the last performances of the two potential combatants, instead of looking at the entire picture. That's why nearly everyone picked Sonny Liston to KO Cassius Clay early.
Who here has the vision, to stand with The Sly One, and proclaim that Taylor will successfully defend his title against this brash young contender if ever they meet?
Taylor will use the experience that he's had in fighting boxing's BEST (Hopkins and Wright) as well as his naturaly physical gifts to thwart the plans of the slow punching, easy to hit Pavlik.
Join it now! There'll be no room later..
dsimon writes:
Well Sly, I don't know about gifts, cause Taylor does not seem gifted to me... but he has seen better comp and his punches are straighter and I don't see him getting hit regularly by a guy like Pavlik.
Unfortunately Taylor could get his hand raised again. :dunno:
StingerKarl
05-22-2007, 03:35 PM
Join me my Fightbeat brothers in the "Taylor will avoid Pavlik at all costs" Bandwagon.
:lol:
I agree.
I don't think Lou will let Jermain anywhere near the kid.
StingerKarl
05-22-2007, 03:38 PM
I would definitely favor Pavlik in the fight by TKO.
REEDsART
05-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Join me my Fightbeat brothers in the "Taylor will avoid Pavlik at all costs" Bandwagon.
:lol::bears:
I would definitely favor Pavlik in the fight by TKO.
I agree, he's too aggressive, hits too hard and Taylor doesn't have the workrate to out point him or the power to keep him off. Taylor would have to fight a stinker of a fight to win. He'd have to move a lot more than he's used to doing.
jarhead
05-22-2007, 03:44 PM
Taylor should move up and fight Joe. Its his best money fight, and Joe can't punch.
Taylor should move up and fight Joe. Its his best money fight, and Joe can't punch.
He will either do that or fight Duddy. I have no doubt he is going to avoid Pavlik.
slystaff
05-22-2007, 03:46 PM
I agree.
I don't think Lou will let Jermain anywhere near the kid.
I dunno about that...
They let him near a Bernard Hopkins that hadn't lost in about 10 years..who had stopped both De La Hoya and Trinidad (the only man to do so), unified the division..beat all of the other middleweight contenders, pretenders and titlists.
If Taylor was so protected...they would have waited until Hopkins got beaten to step him up to a title fight!
In his 2nd defense he takes on Winky Wright who just HUMILIATED Trinidad and had previusly trouced Mosley twice.
What you say makes no sense, with all due respect (let's spar together some day...I want to see how good you are).
REEDsART
05-22-2007, 03:47 PM
He will either do that or fight Duddy. I have no doubt he is going to avoid Pavlik.Something Tells REED "Fuddy" Duddy will Get the Call...
REED:rolleyes:
With the exception of Hopkins and Wright, who has Taylor fought that was a legit MW contender?
Baron
05-22-2007, 03:51 PM
I'd pick Taylor to. It's a close fight though but I wasn't as impressed with Pavlik as most people here were. He did a fine job but was wide open, pretty slow and Miranda looked flat to me.
REEDsART
05-22-2007, 03:53 PM
I dunno about that...
They let him near a Bernard Hopkins that hadn't lost in about 10 years..who had stopped both De La Hoya and Trinidad (the only man to do so), unified the division..beat all of the other middleweight contenders, pretenders and titlists.
If Taylor was so protected...they would have waited until Hopkins got beaten to step him up to a title fight!
In his 2nd defense he takes on Winky Wright who just HUMILIATED Trinidad and had previusly trouced Mosley twice.
What you say makes no sense, with all due respect (let's spar together some day...I want to see how good you are).DiBella HATED Bernard,Remember???:dunno: ...He had No Qualms about Making that Fight...Bernard was Also what???...41 Years Old???:lol:
Besides that,Jermain HADN'T Had a "Money" Fight & Looked Virtually UNbeatable N All of his Other Bouts,PRE-Bernard...WHO ELSE Was there for Taylor to Fight,EXCEPT for Bernard @ that Time???...
As for Winky,Yes,he's a GREAT Fighter,but let's NOT Pretend Fighters Go N the Ring "Fearing" Him:nono: ...
Taylor's Opposition SINCE Winky CLEARLY Spells Out 1 Word..."PROTECTED"
Instead of Miranda-Pavlik we SHOULD have Seen Taylor-Miranda...THAT was the Fight HBO Wanted...
REED:cool:
I'd pick Taylor to. It's a close fight though but I wasn't as impressed with Pavlik as most people here were. He did a fine job but was wide open, pretty slow and Miranda looked flat to me.
Miranda looked like he always does, he gassed because the work Pavlik put in to the body early on. He was ripping some good shots to Mirandas body.
DiBella HATED Bernard,Remember???:dunno: ...He had No Qualms about Making that Fight...Bernard was Also what???...41 Years Old???:lol:
Besides that,Jermain HADN'T Had a "Money" Fight & Looked Virtually UNbeatable N All of his Other Bouts,PRE-Bernard...WHO ELSE Was there for Taylor to Fight,EXCEPT for Bernard @ that Time???...
As for Winky,Yes,he's a GREAT Fighter,but let's NOT Pretend Fighters Go N the Ring "Fearing" Him:nono: ...
Taylor's Opposition SINCE Winky CLEARLY Spells Out 1 Word..."PROTECTED"
Instead of Miranda-Pavlik we SHOULD have Seen Taylor-Miranda...THAT was the Fight HBO Wanted...
REED:cool:
Now that Miranda is out of the picture it's Pavlik vs Taylor or Taylor is a pussy.
slystaff
05-22-2007, 03:56 PM
Don't get me wrong...Pavlik is a very good fighter. But he's slow, very hittable and I believe that Taylor is the type of fighter that raises his game to the level of competition.
Taylor will be so much faster than Pavlik it wont be funny.
slystaff
05-22-2007, 03:56 PM
Now that Miranda is out of the picture it's Pavlik vs Taylor or Taylor is a pussy.
Agreed,
I happen to think that Taylor WILL take the fight.
Baron
05-22-2007, 04:11 PM
Miranda looked like he always does, he gassed because the work Pavlik put in to the body early on. He was ripping some good shots to Mirandas body.We'll agree to disagree then.
REEDsART
05-22-2007, 04:13 PM
Now that Miranda is out of the picture it's Pavlik vs Taylor or Taylor is a pussy.Wouldn't Surprise REED if Taylor Fought Miranda Anyways...
REED:lol:
Baron
05-22-2007, 04:14 PM
And Don't get me wrong, I thought Pavlik put up a good performance but some people here are ready to give him the title without fighting for it (not literally but almost). The dude is likeable and all, but I'm not sold already. I'm happy he bashed Miranda though, I hate this dirty MFker but I thought he didn't look as solid as he usually looks, and that from the start of the fight.
Nobleart
05-22-2007, 04:35 PM
Join now while you still can. A lot of people erroneously base a matchup on the last performances of the two potential combatants, instead of looking at the entire picture. That's why nearly everyone picked Sonny Liston to KO Cassius Clay early.
Who here has the vision, to stand with The Sly One, and proclaim that Taylor will successfully defend his title against this brash young contender if ever they meet?
Taylor will use the experience that he's had in fighting boxing's BEST (Hopkins and Wright) as well as his naturaly physical gifts to thwart the plans of the slow punching, easy to hit Pavlik.
Join it now! There'll be no room later..
I'd root for Pavlik to win but I have a feeling Jermaine is going to have a much easier time of it then we expect if they fight so put me on the bandwagon.
Pavlik will force Jermaine to fight and that will be a good thing for Taylor.
Antwuan Maxx
05-22-2007, 04:36 PM
I've been saying for the longest, it would take a pressure fighter with pop and a sturdy chin to beat Taylor. Ouma and Wright pretty much confirmed that, even though they didn't have the power to take full advantage of Taylor not being able to fight off the backfoot to save his life. I have no doubt in my mind, Pavlik will implement a similar game plan to what he used for Miranda against Taylor. Yeah, Pavlik may be hittable, but so is Taylor and I'd be more concerned about how Taylor's chin holds up than vice versa. It's hard for me to imagine Taylor outpointing Pavlik given Pavlik's workrate and Taylor's suspect stamina. Therefore...
Pavlik KTFO Taylor in 9
ElTerriblee
05-22-2007, 04:58 PM
Miranda looked like he always does, he gassed because the work Pavlik put in to the body early on. He was ripping some good shots to Mirandas body.
Okay seriously you people need to stop with the bodypunch myth. No fighter who is in great shape gets tired from 10 bodypunches in one or two rounds, otherwise Ricky Hatton and Jose Luis Castillo would be 50-0 with 50 KO´s. A great bodypunch can take out any fighter, especially a perfect liver shot or a perfect shot to the solar plexus, just like a perfect headshot can take any fighter out at any moment.
Okay seriously you people need to stop with the bodypunch myth. No fighter who is in great shape gets tired from 10 bodypunches in one or two rounds, otherwise Ricky Hatton and Jose Luis Castillo would be 50-0 with 50 KO´s. A great bodypunch can take out any fighter, especially a perfect liver shot or a perfect shot to the solar plexus, just like a perfect headshot can take any fighter out at any moment.
No, you people need to stop with the weight drained and weak bullshit. Pavlik is the only reason Miranda was beaten down.
Okay seriously you people need to stop with the bodypunch myth. No fighter who is in great shape gets tired from 10 bodypunches in one or two rounds, otherwise Ricky Hatton and Jose Luis Castillo would be 50-0 with 50 KO´s. A great bodypunch can take out any fighter, especially a perfect liver shot or a perfect shot to the solar plexus, just like a perfect headshot can take any fighter out at any moment.
Believe what you want. Pavlik wore Miranda down, no fucking doubt about it. Whether it was body punches or the relentless head attack doesn't matter. Pavlik is the reason Miranda lost and nothing else.
Baron
05-22-2007, 05:36 PM
No, you people need to stop with the weight drained and weak bullshit. Pavlik is the only reason Miranda was beaten down.Stop trying to shove your opinion down people's throats *Z*. I'm not saying Miranda was weight drained or whatever but he looked flat to me, you disagree, fine, but please respect people's right to disagree.
Stop trying to shove your opinion down people's throats *Z*. I'm not saying Miranda was weight drained or whatever but he looked flat to me, you disagree, fine, but please respect people's right to disagree.
I'm not shoving anything down anyone's throat. lol You would probably like that though. :tease:
Double L
05-22-2007, 06:00 PM
I betcha Taylor fights Zuniga, handles him better than Pavlik did, and declares there's no need to face Pavlik.
slystaff
05-22-2007, 06:07 PM
I betcha Taylor fights Zuniga, handles him better than Pavlik did, and declares there's no need to face Pavlik.
I betcha Taylor fights Pavlik, hands him his ass, and declares there's no need to face Pavlik again. :cool:
ElTerriblee
05-22-2007, 06:08 PM
Let´s focus on the real problem, we need to find new Columbian d*** for Dan Rafael to suck on...Love Child and Pantera are done...any suggestions???:lol: :lol:
Tam Tam
05-22-2007, 06:13 PM
Berrio is Columbian, isnt he?
I betcha Taylor fights Pavlik, hands him his ass, and declares there's no need to face Pavlik again. :cool:
Let's hope he's man enough to fight Pavlik. As for the outcome, we can debate that when the figh is signed.
Double L
05-22-2007, 06:16 PM
Let´s focus on the real problem, we need to find new Columbian d*** for Dan Rafael to suck on...Love Child and Pantera are done...any suggestions???:lol: :lol:
:lol:
but seriously, i wouldn't say either one of those guys are done. why are they done? because they have one loss on their record?
miranda and julio both hit hard as fuck. in this sport, that counts for a lot. look at what julian jackson accomplished after getting KTFO by McCallum.
miranda will be back. he'll have to put a few guys on their back before he can get another shot on HBO, but you can bet he'll be back.
and Julio. he's already registered like 3 wins since his loss to Quintana. he'll be back as well. unlike Miranda, he can hit hard and has a lot of talent.
neither guy is done. not yet anyways.
slystaff
05-22-2007, 06:42 PM
On a side note (didn't want to start another thread)...anyone else HATED Cory Spinks' entrance to the fight last Saturday?
He's the most annoying %$#*&@!! I can't stand him. What kinda dance was that? Holding his gloves to his ears and posing and jestering like an idiot.
He needs to be banned from the sport..
REEDsART
05-22-2007, 06:47 PM
On a side note (didn't want to start another thread)...anyone else HATED Cory Spinks' entrance to the fight last Saturday?
He's the most annoying %$#*&@!! I can't stand him. What kinda dance was that? Holding his gloves to his ears and posing and jestering like an idiot.
He needs to be banned from the sport..REED Finds Spinks' Entrances HUMOROUS!!!!:lol:
Like Prince Naseem,Spinks Looks like he's Entering a NIGHTCLUB as Opposed to a Boxing Ring...Naturally,Fans will Either Looooooooove it or HATE it...
But as Lennox Expertly Pointed Out,that's ALSO a Way for a Fighter to GET or STAY "Warm" for the Actual Bout (even though Old FARTS like Merchant Take EVERY Opportunity to Talk Shit)
REED:cool:
jarhead
05-22-2007, 06:50 PM
On a side note (didn't want to start another thread)...anyone else HATED Cory Spinks' entrance to the fight last Saturday?
He's the most annoying %$#*&@!! I can't stand him. What kinda dance was that? Holding his gloves to his ears and posing and jestering like an idiot.
He needs to be banned from the sport..
absolutely! I think it was one of the worst ring entrances of all time. What a fucking idiot.
you may think Taylor will beat Pavlik, possibly so, but my money is on he gets stripped of his belts because he refuses to fight him. Taylor said it himself, his next fight is whoever is the biggest money fight. That is probably going to be Duddy or Joe.
slystaff
05-22-2007, 06:52 PM
absolutely! I think it was one of the worst ring entrances of all time. What a fucking idiot.
you may think Taylor will beat Pavlik, possibly so, but my money is on he gets stripped of his belts because he refuses to fight him. Taylor said it himself, his next fight is whoever is the biggest money fight. That is probably going to be Duddy or Joe.
To me, Pavlik seems like a humble guy. I think he'll give in to whatever taylor's camp demands just so that the fight can be made. As such, Taylor will HAVE to fight him and he will and he'll beat him.
REEDsART
05-22-2007, 06:53 PM
To me, Pavlik seems like a humble guy. I think he'll give in to whatever taylor's camp demands just so that the fight can be made. As such, Taylor will HAVE to fight him and he will and he'll beat him.Brother SLY...
YOU have MORE FAITH N Taylor than his Promoter Does...
REED:cool:
slystaff
05-22-2007, 08:11 PM
Brother SLY...
YOU have MORE FAITH N Taylor than his Promoter Does...
REED:cool:
Taylor WILL fight Pavlik next. You know the Sly is seldom wrong. :cool:
Trplsec
05-22-2007, 08:47 PM
Join now while you still can. A lot of people erroneously base a matchup on the last performances of the two potential combatants, instead of looking at the entire picture. That's why nearly everyone picked Sonny Liston to KO Cassius Clay early.
Who here has the vision, to stand with The Sly One, and proclaim that Taylor will successfully defend his title against this brash young contender if ever they meet?
Taylor will use the experience that he's had in fighting boxing's BEST (Hopkins and Wright) as well as his naturaly physical gifts to thwart the plans of the slow punching, easy to hit Pavlik.
Join it now! There'll be no room later..
Add me...
slystaff
05-22-2007, 09:03 PM
Add me...
done.
KaukipRrr
05-23-2007, 01:01 AM
:nono: !!!!.....There's not many genuine people on this bandwagon, only hurt Miranda fans, and threatenned Arthur Abraham fans,../ I'm neither..:nono:
Orthodox Crusader
05-23-2007, 08:29 AM
:nono: !!!!.....There's not many genuine people on this bandwagon, only hurt Miranda fans, and threatenned Arthur Abraham fans,../ I'm neither..:nono:
And the rest are deluded sycophants, suffering from split personality disorder.
In other words, PAVLIK FANS.
The Genius
05-23-2007, 08:38 AM
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/boxing/img9984324.jpg
She has large boobies.
I like boobies. :bears:
Orthodox Crusader
05-23-2007, 08:55 AM
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/boxing/img9984324.jpg
She has large boobies.
I like boobies. :bears:
Who is she??
Baron
05-23-2007, 09:00 AM
Who is she??Sandra Bullock's sister.
Sandra Bullock's sister.
would that be Suckma
Baron
05-23-2007, 09:04 AM
would that be Suckma:lol:
Orthodox Crusader
05-23-2007, 09:19 AM
Seriously, whats her name??
Seriously, whats her name??
Gina Carano. She's a MMA fighter. I saw her fight on a Strike Force card in San Jose. She looks better in person, and she kicks some serious ass. The fight she had was the best fight of the night. I was amazed at the actual skill she had, it was a very technical fight and damn entertaining.
slystaff
05-23-2007, 11:24 AM
Gina Carano. She's a MMA fighter. I saw her fight on a Strike Force card in San Jose. She looks better in person, and she kicks some serious ass. The fight she had was the best fight of the night. I was amazed at the actual skill she had, it was a very technical fight and damn entertaining.
I'd love to wrestle with her
I'd love to wrestle with her
Me too.
Andrew
05-23-2007, 11:50 AM
Im in Sly
Gina Carano. She's a MMA fighter. I saw her fight on a Strike Force card in San Jose. She looks better in person, and she kicks some serious ass. The fight she had was the best fight of the night. I was amazed at the actual skill she had, it was a very technical fight and damn entertaining.
agREED. I met her at the Showtime MMA show in Tunica, and that was my very same reaction. Her fight was good that night as well. Not the best of the night, but proof that she can fight - and still look good afterward.
Sly, do not add me to this absurd bandwagon. Let me know when you start up the "Jermain Taylor will vacate his WBC title rather than face Kelly Pavlik" bandwagon and I'll gladly join that one
slystaff
05-23-2007, 02:00 PM
Sly, do not add me
You think too highly of yourself :cool: , mon ami, what makes you think I'd just add you without you specifically requesting to be part of this elite club?
see my sig (the quoted part, not the rap lyric part :lol: )
slystaff
05-23-2007, 02:12 PM
see my sig (the quoted part, not the rap lyric part :lol: )
:lol:
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