View Full Version : James Toney vs Danny Batchelder
Roll With The Punches
05-25-2007, 04:28 AM
this fight seems to have gone right under the radar
anyone see it? how did Toney look?
he only got a split decision over this guy :dunno:
Orthodox Crusader
05-25-2007, 10:57 AM
Didn't see it....when was it???
Erratic
05-25-2007, 10:58 AM
Terrible, terrible fight.
One of the worst fights I have ever seen.
Toney looked extremely bad. I'm not sure if he was being lazy as he often is, or he's just old and can't pull the trigger. Maybe both. He wasn't accurate when he did throw either, other than a consistent jab that sometimes found it's mark.
He might've gotten a little lucky with the cards, but I didn't bother to score it as it was a dreadful fight.
whiskey
05-25-2007, 11:04 AM
There hasn't been any interest in the fight for mainly two reasons.
1) Who's Danny Batchelder?
2) James is done an elite leve/ fighter
Terrible, terrible fight.
One of the worst fights I have ever seen.
Toney looked extremely bad. I'm not sure if he was being lazy as he often is, or he's just old and can't pull the trigger. Maybe both. He wasn't accurate when he did throw either, other than a consistent jab that sometimes found it's mark.
He might've gotten a little lucky with the cards, but I didn't bother to score it as it was a dreadful fight.
How did you see the fight?
Erratic
05-25-2007, 11:10 AM
How did you see the fight?
I went to the fight.
I went to the fight.
I was thinking about going but decided not to. You from San Jose? I live in Santa Cruz.
Orthodox Crusader
05-25-2007, 11:17 AM
I went to the fight.
Where was it? At the Pechanga Resort?
James is fucking FINISHED.
For all his so-called D he took a lot of leather against Rahman and Peter and his thus wasted.
Erratic
05-25-2007, 11:20 AM
I was thinking about going but decided not to. You from San Jose? I live in Santa Cruz.
I live in San Francisco. The whole card was awful, but most cards at the Tank shouldn't be this bad, so I'll probably check out another one in the future.
Where was it? At the Pechanga Resort?
James is fucking FINISHED.
For all his so-called D he took a lot of leather against Rahman and Peter and his thus wasted.
The HP Pavilion in San Jose.
I went to the fight.
Damn, why did I always think you were from Chicago?
anyway, yeah, most seemed to have it the same as you. sounds like the toney of the late '90's all over again.
Damn, I remember 10 years ago when he fought Greg Everett on ESPN thinking, "how the hell could he let himself go this bad?" and he was "only" 205 then. Now we're longing for the days to where he can get under 220.
Orthodox Crusader
05-25-2007, 11:43 AM
Damn, why did I always think you were from Chicago?
anyway, yeah, most seemed to have it the same as you. sounds like the toney of the late '90's all over again.
Damn, I remember 10 years ago when he fought Greg Everett on ESPN thinking, "how the hell could he let himself go this bad?" and he was "only" 205 then. Now we're longing for the days to where he can get under 220.
I've seen James listed as being anywhere between 5'9 and 6'0...what height is he???
Hanzy
05-25-2007, 11:48 AM
I've seen James listed as being anywhere between 5'9 and 6'0...what height is he???
He's 5'9. Nowhere near 6'
jarhead
05-25-2007, 12:13 PM
I am a longtime Toney fan. It drives me nuts to see him like this. After the Peter fight, I thought if he is going to be serious about boxing, he should get his ass back in shape, and go dominate the Cruisers. I think James could have brought new life to that division at one time, especially after the Jirov fight. But those are just days gone by now. I think its closing time for Lights Out.:lol:
dsimon3387
05-25-2007, 12:22 PM
I was thinking about going but decided not to. You from San Jose? I live in Santa Cruz.
dsimon writes:
Santa Cruz!!?? You Hippie!! :lol: :lol: I love Santa Cruz. I take my kids to Felton for the Big Basin train ride at least once a year and we visit friends out there.
jarhead
05-25-2007, 12:37 PM
dsimon writes:
Santa Cruz!!?? You Hippie!! :lol: :lol: I love Santa Cruz. I take my kids to Felton for the Big Basin train ride at least once a year and we visit friends out there.
I thought the hippies lived in Santa Barbara?:dunno:
He's 5'9. Nowhere near 6'
IIRC, Toney was always listed at 5'10" back in his SM days.
Which doesn't mean I'm disagreeing with you because I haven't seen him in person and it's not like Tales of the Tape are consistent or necessarily accurate in the first place.
dsimon writes:
Santa Cruz!!?? You Hippie!! :lol: :lol: I love Santa Cruz. I take my kids to Felton for the Big Basin train ride at least once a year and we visit friends out there.
Haha! I hate hippies! Damn smelly bastards. I love it here, you have the ocean and the mountains both within a 20 minute drive.
I thought the hippies lived in Santa Barbara?:dunno:
No they all live in San Francisco with Alabama Man.
IIRC, Toney was always listed at 5'10" back in his SM days.
Which doesn't mean I'm disagreeing with you because I haven't seen him in person and it's not like Tales of the Tape are consistent or necessarily accurate in the first place.
i'd say he's closer to 5'9. he's a little shorter than me, and I'm on the shy side of 5'10"
jarhead
05-25-2007, 12:59 PM
No they all live in San Francisco with Alabama Man.
Does Alabama man sell Hemp and tye-dyed shirts?
Octopus
05-25-2007, 05:26 PM
Originally Posted by *Z*
How did you see the fight?
I went to the fight.
:lol:
Originally Posted by *Z*
How did you see the fight?
:lol:
I was just surprised someone from the board lived close enough to go to it. I didn't think anyone from here lived that close.
^^^ at one point, FightBeat had four staff members who lived in or near the area.
^^^ at one point, FightBeat had four staff members who lived in or near the area.
Really? Who were they? I had no idea there were other here near me. Now in case I have to go open a can of whoop ass on someone I can... :lol:
CleanYourClock
05-25-2007, 08:25 PM
Toney is finished ...
He is older but most of all - all that extra fat weight and being lazy is the thing that is currently doing him in and will eventually end his career ..
If he was still a Cruiser or a 210lb Heavyweight , we would see slippage do to age but not nearly the slippage we are seeing now in his current condition ...
dsimon3387
05-25-2007, 10:03 PM
No they all live in San Francisco with Alabama Man.
dsimon writes:
yeah bamma has a commune on Baker street and they serve koolade when Latin King comes over for a visit.:lol:
dsimon3387
05-25-2007, 10:05 PM
Does Alabama man sell Hemp and tye-dyed shirts?
dsimon writes;
Oh yeah! and lumpia also. :lol:
dsimon3387
05-25-2007, 10:06 PM
Really? Who were they? I had no idea there were other here near me. Now in case I have to go open a can of whoop ass on someone I can... :lol:
dsimon writes:
Z there are a whole bunch of us in San FRancisco and the bay area. When I open my restaurant in North Beach I will PM all you guys but please chech by TAA once in a while.
Free Ike
05-25-2007, 10:27 PM
I thought the hippies lived in Santa Barbara?:dunno:
Fuck no. Hot, slut college students. It is great up there.
Mitchell Kane
05-25-2007, 10:33 PM
I was at this fight as well and it was pretty bad. Toney's gotten used to fighting these bigger and slower heavyweights, Batchelder actually made him come forward in the fight and Toney's not really made for that kind of fight at this point.
I didn't score the fight, but I agree with the sentiment he might have been fortunate to win.
However, it wasn't because of his weight. He came in at 229, and looked resonably good for how he's looked in recent fights.
He's simply nearing the end of his career, and his weight is - in some part - just window dressing. Obviously it helps the lighter he is, but even if he somehow got below 220 the fighter that knocked out Holyfield isn't going to appear.
Rubio MHS
05-25-2007, 10:35 PM
Fuck no. Hot, slut college students. It is great up there.Yeah. If only you were a UPS driver, you might be able to do something besides look at them.
Mitchell Kane
05-25-2007, 10:37 PM
I live in San Francisco. The whole card was awful, but most cards at the Tank shouldn't be this bad, so I'll probably check out another one in the future.
The HP Pavilion in San Jose.
It certainly hurt the card that the Ricardo Cortes fight was cancelled because Marcos Primera couldn't get cleared medicallly.
I thought Eloy Perez looked alright last night.
Free Ike
05-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Yeah. If only you were a UPS driver, you might be able to do something besides look at them.
I am to old for that. Now, I used to go up there about 8-10 years ago. It was fun. I haven't been around college girls for awhile. I did alright when I was in college and that is all that matters.
This thread adds up to a pretty intriguing fight between 2 guys I've never really cared for:
Toney vs Holyfield 2
LATIN KING
05-26-2007, 12:00 AM
I live in San Francisco. The whole card was awful, but most cards at the Tank shouldn't be this bad, so I'll probably check out another one in the future.
The HP Pavilion in San Jose.I wanted to go just to see a fight at that venue.
Did you go see Floyd/Chavez a couple of years ago at the Civic Auditorium? Too bad they don't do big fights like those around here anymore.:cheer:
KaukipRrr
05-26-2007, 12:12 AM
I wanted to go just to see a fight at that venue.
Did you go see Floyd/Chavez a couple of years ago at the Civic Auditorium? Too bad they don't do big fights like those around here anymore.:cheer:
Howja get there?, did you catch a parade..:crafty:
I wanted to go just to see a fight at that venue.
Did you go see Floyd/Chavez a couple of years ago at the Civic Auditorium? Too bad they don't do big fights like those around here anymore.:cheer:
that bill graham auditorium is a nice venue I was at that card
LATIN KING
05-26-2007, 12:44 AM
Howja get there?, did you catch a parade..:crafty::nono:
LATIN KING
05-26-2007, 12:44 AM
that bill graham auditorium is a nice venue I was at that cardyeah I was at that fight too. Too bad they never made big fights here again.:warning:
KaukipRrr
05-26-2007, 12:51 AM
:nono:
Isn't San Francisco the place where the 'Bird cage' film was supposed to be based?..:crafty: and why are you living there?...
....did you move there?
Rubio MHS
05-26-2007, 12:59 AM
Isn't San Francisco the place where the 'Bird cage' film was supposed to be based?..:crafty: and why are you living there?...
....did you move there?You watched Bird Cage?!?!?!? Gay.
James Toney >> :laughing:
Give it up man.
jaws1216
05-28-2007, 01:39 PM
Where was it? At the Pechanga Resort?
James is fucking FINISHED.
For all his so-called D he took a lot of leather against Rahman and Peter and his thus wasted.
pechanga is 10 minutes from me, not near san fagsisco:nono:
ummm, carry on....
steve_dave
05-28-2007, 02:02 PM
I'm just watching the fight right now... just finished the first round. Toney looks a little lighter than he has over the past year or two.. apparently his weight was 228 of 229. He won the first round clearly, but I don't know if Batchelder threw a punch. Neither guy is doing any work.
Erratic
05-29-2007, 12:39 PM
It certainly hurt the card that the Ricardo Cortes fight was cancelled because Marcos Primera couldn't get cleared medicallly.
I thought Eloy Perez looked alright last night.
Perez had the best performance of the night, along with the "In Your Face" card girls (but not the music performance).
I wanted to go just to see a fight at that venue.
Did you go see Floyd/Chavez a couple of years ago at the Civic Auditorium? Too bad they don't do big fights like those around here anymore.:cheer:
Nah, I just watched that one on HBO.
S.F. is pretty dead as a boxing town, San Jose and Sac-town are pretty good though.
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