Tap him on his jaw, and he crumbles: History's weakest chins... [Archive]

StingerKarl

05-25-2007, 04:49 PM

:lol: :laughing: :lol: :laughing:

If you want to have some kicks at your next PPV party, obtain his fights with Quarry, Norton, and Holmes.
When he got hit on his china chin, he would go back, arms flailing everywhere falls back into the ropes get hit again, go down in a somersault and take the count.
He did a back roll when Quarry sent him down the second time and the last knockdown it looked like the crucifixion in the corner.
Holmes knocked him off his feet into the air, clear across the ring backwards and it looked like Zanon was trying to fly by flailing his arms everywhere.
Zanon also looked ridiculous in that he wore these knee high white sock swith blue stripes on the top with ankle high blue shoes, and "totip" trunks that were long at the time.
He spent more time in the air than any heavyweight I have ever seen.

jarhead

05-25-2007, 04:51 PM

Wlad Klitschko has to be mentioned. he got put down by fucking Davarryl Williamson:shit:

Double L

05-25-2007, 05:02 PM

Wlad Klitschko has to be mentioned. he got put down by fucking Davarryl Williamson:shit:

Davaryll Williamson hits hard!!! Ask Byrd.

jarhead

05-25-2007, 05:06 PM

Davaryll Williamson hits hard!!! Ask Byrd.
Can one say Joe Mesi?:laughing:

Double L

05-25-2007, 05:10 PM

Can one say Joe Mesi?:laughing:

well, yeah. he's got a shit chin. but that has nothing to do with his ability to punch. the guy can punch. it's a fact. if nothing else.

i'm not saying Wlad doesn't have a below average chin. he clearly does. i'm just saying the fact that Williamson put him down is not proof. for this we need to consider: a. Sanders KO'd his ass b. Brewster KO'd his ass c. Williamson knocked him down d. Peter knocked him down multiple times

Tam Tam

05-25-2007, 05:19 PM

Stephanne Oulette has possibly the worst chin of all-time.

Terry Norris has the worst chin that a great fighter ever had, IMO.

Octopus

05-25-2007, 05:19 PM

Micheal Bennett had the worst chin I ever saw.

Him and The Glass Rhino!!

slystaff

05-25-2007, 05:35 PM

History's worst chins: List em

One of the worst I've ever seen has to be Zab Judah.

Double L this is a really badly written topic. You should have qualified it better. If you want a list of the truly worst chins in history...you have to go to boxrec and look at the worse records...Eric Crumble for example..or even bums blown away by well known fighters early in their careers or guys KOed by Pernell whitaker, spadafora, Cory Spinks etc.

bottomline...Zab Judah would be no where near the top (or bottom..depending on your perspective) of such a list.

Perhaps you meant...

out of all UNDISPUTED CHAMPIONS, who had the worse chin? Or all Welterweight champions? Or all guys who fought Mayweather?

I'm trying to find a "chinny" list that could possible have Zab Judah in it. :dunno:

jarhead

05-25-2007, 05:39 PM

well, yeah. he's got a shit chin. but that has nothing to do with his ability to punch. the guy can punch. it's a fact. if nothing else.

i'm not saying Wlad doesn't have a below average chin. he clearly does. i'm just saying the fact that Williamson put him down is not proof. for this we need to consider: a. Sanders KO'd his ass b. Brewster KO'd his ass c. Williamson knocked him down d. Peter knocked him down multiple times

can't forget Ross Purity

and I actually like Wlad!:lol:

If he had a chin he could be one of the most dominant HW champs ever. IF

Baron

05-25-2007, 05:40 PM

Can one say Joe Mesi?:laughing:Well, Williamson didn't have the time to land any punch in this fight. Why do you think he's called "touch of sleep"?

jaws1216

05-25-2007, 05:41 PM

Terry Norris has the worst chin that a great fighter ever had, IMO.

I think this is pretty fair, though NOBODY could take that shot jackson gave him.

Baron

05-25-2007, 05:42 PM

I think this is pretty fair, though NOBODY could take that shot jackson gave him.To Terry's credit, he wasn't completely out. If I'm not mistaken he even got up before the count ended.

jarhead

05-25-2007, 05:43 PM

Double L this is a really badly written topic. You should have qualified it better. If you want a list of the truly worst chins in history...you have to go to boxrec and look at the worse records...Eric Crumble for example..or even bums blown away by well known fighters early in their careers or guys KOed by Pernell whitaker, spadafora, Cory Spinks etc.

bottomline...Zab Judah would be no where near the top (or bottom..depending on your perspective) of such a list.

Perhaps you meant...

out of all UNDISPUTED CHAMPIONS, who had the worse chin? Or all Welterweight champions? Or all guys who fought Mayweather?

I'm trying to find a "chinny" list that could possible have Zab Judah in it. :dunno:

what about "The worst chins of anyone that fought a Winner Takes All Match!! with Tszyu?:dunno:

Tam Tam

05-25-2007, 05:47 PM

To Terry's credit, he wasn't completely out. If I'm not mistaken he even got up before the count ended.
If by completely out, you mean 10 count? Nah, he wasn't. But Norris wouldn't have been in condition to continue after a 50 count.

Still, being blasted by Jackson is no shame. Having it done by a JAB by Simon Brown? Being hurt by anyone who touched him? Thats bad.

I feel sorry for Norris, because he took a couple of life changing beatings when he hung around a little too long. Without his reflexes and speed, he was a deer in the headlights and that poor punch resistance was then combined with his huge heart and will to win....thats how people get hurt and Terry did.

Baron

05-25-2007, 06:08 PM

If by completely out, you mean 10 count? Nah, he wasn't. But Norris wouldn't have been in condition to continue after a 50 count.

Still, being blasted by Jackson is no shame. Having it done by a JAB by Simon Brown? Being hurt by anyone who touched him? Thats bad.

I feel sorry for Norris, because he took a couple of life changing beatings when he hung around a little too long. Without his reflexes and speed, he was a deer in the headlights and that poor punch resistance was then combined with his huge heart and will to win....thats how people get hurt and Terry did.I should have put a smilie, I said that tongue in cheek.

jarhead

05-25-2007, 06:10 PM

If by completely out, you mean 10 count? Nah, he wasn't. But Norris wouldn't have been in condition to continue after a 50 count.

Still, being blasted by Jackson is no shame. Having it done by a JAB by Simon Brown? Being hurt by anyone who touched him? Thats bad.

I feel sorry for Norris, because he took a couple of life changing beatings when he hung around a little too long. Without his reflexes and speed, he was a deer in the headlights and that poor punch resistance was then combined with his huge heart and will to win....thats how people get hurt and Terry did.

very true.

I felt this way about Gatti when he fought Floyd. I was actually a bit worried.

Pascals Wager

05-25-2007, 06:37 PM

Bob Sapp

jaws1216

05-25-2007, 07:10 PM

If by completely out, you mean 10 count? Nah, he wasn't. But Norris wouldn't have been in condition to continue after a 50 count.

Still, being blasted by Jackson is no shame. Having it done by a JAB by Simon Brown? Being hurt by anyone who touched him? Thats bad.

I feel sorry for Norris, because he took a couple of life changing beatings when he hung around a little too long. Without his reflexes and speed, he was a deer in the headlights and that poor punch resistance was then combined with his huge heart and will to win....thats how people get hurt and Terry did.

lets not forget Troy Waters putting him on queer street:laughing:

sorry...

Tam Tam

05-25-2007, 07:15 PM

sorry...
For? I agree that Norris' beard was bad. Real bad in fact. Personally, I then think about what he still went on to achieve, knowing he had that significant flaw and can't help but be impressed.

Terry was a great fighter.

joony

05-25-2007, 07:17 PM

michael grant
augie sanchez
terry norris
junior jones
roger mayweather (probably had the best chin compared to the rest)
diosbeylis hurtado

Tam Tam

05-25-2007, 07:19 PM

michael grant
augie sanchez
terry norris
junior jones
roger mayweather (probably had the best chin compared to the rest)
diosbeylis hurtado
There is something fundamentally wrong with saying Roger Mayweather had the best chin, in comparison with anyone.

joemul

05-25-2007, 07:28 PM

Kevin Leushung

Orthodox Crusader

05-25-2007, 07:58 PM

As mentioned in another thread...

Herbie Hide

Me, I think.:dunno:

Augie Sanchez...damn...good call Reed.

That guy was "Discombobulating" at every opportunity.

I don't think JJ was glass jaw, but he was deffo chinny.

Orthodox Crusader

05-25-2007, 07:59 PM

Kevin Leushung

Really........he took good headshots from Harry Simon, you know, that pfp dude that beat Winky....but the body shots did for our Kevin.

Des Sowden??

Orthodox Crusader

05-25-2007, 08:02 PM

michael grant
augie sanchez
terry norris
junior jones
roger mayweather (probably had the best chin compared to the rest)
diosbeylis hurtado

Grants jaw wasn't bedrock but he wasn't chinny:nono:

Norris got bombed out by massive punchers. He was chinny, for sure, but he could take it and come back: see Troy Waters.

Junior Jones: chinny but not fine china either.

Hurtado....maybe. Kostya Tszyu had him going with a headshot but Hurtado rallied and it was bodyshots that did for him. That said Pea did KO Hurtado so maybe he was fine china after all.

Roger....don't know.:dunno:

CleanYourClock

05-25-2007, 08:13 PM

Stephanne Oulette has possibly the worst chin of all-time.

Terry Norris has the worst chin that a great fighter ever had, IMO.

What about Floyd Patterson ..
He has to rank high for great fighters with a bad chin ..

kevincarter

05-25-2007, 08:23 PM

There's a heavyweight named China Smith that looks like a world beater by his physique... His name suits him however.

as an anouncer once said after he was knocked out for the second time by the same fighter:

China Smith

China Chin...:lol:

Rubio MHS

05-25-2007, 09:55 PM

History's worst chins: List em

One of the worst I've ever seen has to be Zab Judah.That's retarded, just like everything else you post. Judah's only been knocked out once. Eric Crumble was 0-31 with 31 losses coming by knockout. He never saw the third round of a professional boxing match, except as a spectator.

Rubio MHS

05-25-2007, 10:04 PM

What about Floyd Patterson ..
He has to rank high for great fighters with a bad chin ..He got knocked down a lot, but he always got up. He only got knocked out by Ali, Liston and Johanssen. Ezzard Charles was a better fighter, but his chin was at least as bad.

StingerKarl

05-25-2007, 10:29 PM

He got knocked down a lot, but he always got up. He only got knocked out by Ali, Liston and Johanssen. Ezzard Charles was a better fighter, but his chin was at least as bad.

Charles took Rocky's haymakers for 15 rounds and he didn't go anywhere.
Charles was a blown up lightheavy, and he also took some punishing shots from Louis.

Rubio MHS

05-25-2007, 10:32 PM

Charles took Rocky's haymakers for 15 rounds and he didn't go anywhere.
Charles was a blown up lightheavy, and he also took some punishing shots from Louis.He had a lot of heart, and he was good at small defensive moves.

whiskey

05-26-2007, 12:37 AM

As has already been posted, "worst chin" is different from a fighter we've all seen and some tomato can who can't take any shot.

I'm a Norris fan as most people know, but i'll never try to say he had a good chin. I think his lack of punch resistance gets exaggerated at times, but nonetheless it was certainly a weakness.

Out of the "big names" a lot of have been mentioned.

I would add:

Tommy Morrison

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 12:39 AM

Anyone say Hearns or Shavers yet? :dunno:

Rubio MHS

05-26-2007, 12:40 AM

Hearns had a fine chin, and Shavers's problem was conditioning.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 12:42 AM

Hearns had a fine chin, and Shavers's problem was conditioning.
No and yes, as well as his chin.

KaukipRrr

05-26-2007, 12:45 AM

Arthur Abraham has a weak jaw.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 12:47 AM

Arthur Abraham has a weak jaw.
Cow, don't. :nono:

Rubio MHS

05-26-2007, 12:53 AM

Anthony Mundine got knocked out by Sven Ottke. That means that he has the worst chin of any top-10 fighter in the past 30 years.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 01:49 AM

Punch was to the temple. Although his chin isn't all too hot...still, he went 12 with Kessler, Green and Echols...went down a grand total of zero times.

Rubio MHS

05-26-2007, 01:55 AM

Junior Jones went tons of rounds against Marco Antonio Barrera without going down.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 02:00 AM

Junior had really, really, really bad stamina. That was his killer.

Free Ike

05-26-2007, 02:01 AM

Punch was to the temple. Although his chin isn't all too hot...still, he went 12 with Kessler, Green and Echols...went down a grand total of zero times.
He ran more than Corey Stinks in May against Echols. That was an absolutely disgraceful effort.

Xplosive

05-26-2007, 02:10 AM

Anyone say Hearns or Shavers yet? :dunno:

Hearns didnt have a glass chin. Thats a myth. At 160 yeah he was a bit chinny, but give him a pass on that cause he got taken out by huge punches from Hagler & Barkley. At 147 & 154 Tommy's chin was decent. He took alot of punishment in the Leonard fight, if his chin was glass he'd have been gone from that left hook in round 6.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 02:27 AM

He ran more than Corey Stinks in May against Echols. That was an absolutely disgraceful effort.
I agree. It was.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 02:29 AM

Hearns didnt have a glass chin. Thats a myth. At 160 yeah he was a bit chinny, but give him a pass on that cause he got taken out by huge punches from Hagler & Barkley. At 147 & 154 Tommy's chin was decent. He took alot of punishment in the Leonard fight, if his chin was glass he'd have been gone from that left hook in round 6.
He was a bit chinny at every weight. Whenever he got hit hard, he held on, of was on rubber legs. It wasn't Oulette territory, but it was not the beard of an elite fighter and its what separated him from Duran, Hagler and Leonard, IMO.

LATIN KING

05-26-2007, 02:42 AM

Clifford Etienne. I swear every single time I saw him fight he fell a couple of times. First time I saw him was against Oquendo I think Oquendo droped him 5-7 times. :lol:

The Genius

05-26-2007, 03:18 AM

He was a bit chinny at every weight. Whenever he got hit hard, he held on, of was on rubber legs. It wasn't Oulette territory, but it was not the beard of an elite fighter and its what separated him from Duran, Hagler and Leonard, IMO.

He didn't have a great chin but balance seemed to be Tommy's biggest problem. I can't remember which fight it was (think it was Leonard 1) but I watched Tommy circling the ring and he tripped over his own feet AND the bottom rope. He was a bit clumsy.

joony

05-26-2007, 04:18 AM

lennox lewis

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 05:38 AM

Lewis got knocked cold the same number of times as Pernell Whitaker.

REEDsART

05-26-2007, 01:28 PM

Lewis got knocked cold the same number of times as Pernell Whitaker.WHO Suffered more "10" Counts???

REED:dunno:

steve_dave

05-26-2007, 01:46 PM

WHO Suffered more "10" Counts???

REED:dunno:

One for Lewis, zero for Pernell :dunno:

REEDsART

05-26-2007, 01:51 PM

One for Lewis, zero for Pernell :dunno:SCOREBOARD!!!

REED:bears:

Joe King

05-26-2007, 03:47 PM

If you want to have some kicks at your next PPV party, obtain his fights with Quarry, Norton, and Holmes.
When he got hit on his china chin, he would go back, arms flailing everywhere falls back into the ropes get hit again, go down in a somersault and take the count.
He did a back roll when Quarry sent him down the second time and the last knockdown it looked like the crucifixion in the corner.
Holmes knocked him off his feet into the air, clear across the ring backwards and it looked like Zanon was trying to fly by flailing his arms everywhere.
Zanon also looked ridiculous in that he wore these knee high white sock swith blue stripes on the top with ankle high blue shoes, and "totip" trunks that were long at the time.
He spent more time in the air than any heavyweight I have ever seen.

Youtube links are requested...

StingerKarl

05-26-2007, 04:29 PM

Joe King?
Man, I haven't heard that name in a long time.
I don't have the links, but have the Norton and Quarry fights.

joony

05-26-2007, 04:40 PM

Lewis got knocked cold the same number of times as Pernell Whitaker.

you're a hater. only time whitaker was seriously hurt was when he was clocked by roger then got hit while he was down.

he still managed to survive the round and proceeded to beat roger's ass for the remainder of the fight.

lewis got KOed by two mediocre contenders.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 04:48 PM

you're a hater. only time whitaker was seriously hurt was when he was clocked by roger then got hit while he was down.

he still managed to survive the round and proceeded to beat roger's ass for the remainder of the fight.

lewis got KOed by two mediocre contenders.
I'm a hater? Thats the mirror, mate. Anyone who mentions Lewis on this thread is nothing but a hater. :nono:

Lewis knocked cold once, v Rahman
Whitaker knocked cold once, v Mayweather

:clap:

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 04:53 PM

Lewis had a terrible chin. That's why he fought like a girl, cowering away behind a pawing jab Vs smaller, weaker fighters.

Whitaker had a much better chin.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 04:56 PM

Lewis had a terrible chin. That's why he fought like a girl, cowering away behind a pawing jab Vs smaller, weaker fighters.

Whitaker had a much better chin.
:rolleyes: Go put some weight on.

crold1

05-26-2007, 05:15 PM

Lewis' chin is underrated...I'm with you From. It took MAMMOTH shots to stop him and he took solid blows from Mercer, Vander, Morrison and Bruno, all who could crack. I have always been of the idea that the fight with McCall was stopped too soon as well.

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 05:22 PM

:rolleyes: Go put some weight on.

No man, I weigh over 11 stone now. I start training in 2 months, I need to lose over a stone, not put any on.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 06:07 PM

No man, I weigh over 11 stone now. I start training in 2 months, I need to lose over a stone, not put any on.
You WANT to weight 140? :notallthere: Being skinny is only hip for young broads with an identity crisis.

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 06:17 PM

Yeah I want to weigh 140, as that's the lowest I can comfortable get down to.

Tam I am not being funny, but you look skinnier than me if I recall from your pic.

What's your height and weight?

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 07:18 PM

Yeah I want to weigh 140, as that's the lowest I can comfortable get down to.

Tam I am not being funny, but you look skinnier than me if I recall from your pic.

What's your height and weight?
None of your business :nono:

Neil will probably see this at some point though. :lol:

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 08:39 PM

Come on Tam, don't be a pussy.

Judging from your photo I would put you at 6' and 11 stone.

A fairly handsome fellow, don't get me wrong, but you're a little on the scrawny side aren't you babe?

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 08:50 PM

Come on Tam, don't be a pussy.

Judging from your photo I would put you at 6' and 11 stone.

A fairly handsome fellow, don't get me wrong, but you're a little on the scrawny side aren't you babe?
I'm 6'2'' and 12 stone 4. But yes, I'm scrawny. I ride too much for what I eat.

ArturoGatti

05-26-2007, 09:29 PM

I'm 6'2'' and 12 stone 4. But yes, I'm scrawny. I ride too much for what I eat.:eek:

ArturoGatti

05-26-2007, 09:31 PM

I'm 5'11'' and weigh 205 pounds. I should lose about 15 lbs., minimum.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 09:39 PM

:eek:
Don't :nono:

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 10:37 PM

Tam - you're 5 inches taller than me, only 1 stone heavier, and you're saying I need to put on weight? :lol: :bears:

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 11:21 PM

Tam - you're 5 inches taller than me, only 1 stone heavier, and you're saying I need to put on weight? :lol: :bears:
We know our own :dunno:

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 11:27 PM

I guess so. But another thing Tam, I reckon I have a larger penis than you.

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 11:28 PM

I guess so. But another thing Tam, I reckon I have a larger penis than you.
:nono: I wouldn't hold out for that one.

Alabama_Man

05-26-2007, 11:38 PM

I'm 5'11'' and weigh 205 pounds. I should lose about 15 lbs., minimum.

Chunky monkey. Hit the treadmill.

StingerKarl

05-26-2007, 11:41 PM

"From the Ashes" only contribution to this website is to stir up trouble.
She needs to find another space on the internet, which has a lot of them for that purpose, but not here.

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 11:44 PM

:nono: I wouldn't hold out for that one.

You have no intention of showing your penis, or you don't have one? :dunno:

Tam Tam

05-26-2007, 11:44 PM

"From the Ashes" only contribution to this website is to stir up trouble.
She needs to find another space on the internet, which has a lot of them for that purpose, but not here.
Listen hear Daddy's Boy, if you wanna take a trip back to smacktalk, all you gotta do is ask nicely.

StingerKarl

05-26-2007, 11:48 PM

Listen hear Daddy's Boy, if you wanna take a trip back to smacktalk, all you gotta do is ask nicely.

Oh, ho!
Since I am on a nice trip here, "FTA"....regardless of whether I would snap you like the twig that you are, keep it to boxing here.
Tony Mundine, Sr. is another great hitter with a glass chin.
Perhaps you can elaborate on your fellow countryman?

mexican wedding shirt

05-26-2007, 11:56 PM

I'd just like to add dear Tam, I would also SNAP you like the obnoxious, slimey, dewey Australian twig you are :slap:

kevincarter

05-27-2007, 12:55 AM

Chuck Liddell...

:laughing:

Orthodox Crusader

05-27-2007, 12:57 AM

Listen hear Daddy's Boy, if you wanna take a trip back to smacktalk, all you gotta do is ask nicely.

Are you Tam-Tam the Jew hater that used to go around, and with the sympathyy of phonetap, spew racist abuse at all concerned, but especially Jews and whites???:dunno: :dunno:

royyjonesjrp4pno1

05-27-2007, 01:00 AM

List every MMA fighter here

Tam Tam

05-27-2007, 01:51 AM

Are you Tam-Tam the Jew hater that used to go around, and with the sympathyy of phonetap, spew racist abuse at all concerned, but especially Jews and whites???:dunno: :dunno:
I'm jewish, sweet cheeks. Perhaps you came in late on the joke. :rolleyes:

Haymaker

05-27-2007, 02:30 AM

Chuck Liddell...

:laughing:

damn you beat me to it :lol:

KaukipRrr

05-27-2007, 02:36 AM

I'm jewish,

:eeeek: ,.........:doh:

ILLUMINATI

05-27-2007, 02:37 AM

Chuck Liddell...

:laughing:

:nono: Few people in the world can take this shot....

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/30000pumas/LiddellJackson.gif

KaukipRrr

05-27-2007, 03:03 AM

:nono: Few people in the world can take this shot....

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/30000pumas/LiddellJackson.gif

:crafty: Well there you go Illuminati, your boxing world may be all but dead, but atleast the UFC is finally giving you some excitement.

steve_dave

05-27-2007, 03:04 AM

:nono: Few people in the world can take this shot....

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/30000pumas/LiddellJackson.gif

A lot of people could have avoided it though. :lol:

steve_dave

05-27-2007, 03:06 AM

I'm jewish, sweet cheeks. Perhaps you came in late on the joke. :rolleyes:

Sweet, new ammo.

Tam Tam

05-27-2007, 04:06 AM

Sweet, new ammo.
I should clarify that. I'm not "Jewish", I don't tell people I'm Jewish, I hate Jews and consequently I hate myself for even having some Jew in me somewhere.

I'm Australian. Other than that, I'm Portuguese.

steve_dave

05-27-2007, 04:09 AM

I should clarify that. I'm not "Jewish", I don't tell people I'm Jewish, I hate Jews and consequently I hate myself for even having some Jew in me somewhere.

I'm Australian. Other than that, I'm Portuguese.

A self-hating jew?

Now you're nothing but a miserable stereotype. :lol:

Tam Tam

05-27-2007, 04:10 AM

A self-hating jew?

Now you're nothing but a miserable stereotype. :lol:
Oh well.

steve_dave

05-27-2007, 04:14 AM

Oh well.

Smile.

mexican wedding shirt

05-27-2007, 09:21 AM

Are you sure you're Jewish tam?

If so, you're not a self loathing Jew. I've seen you defend Jews and attack a-rabs before.

ILLUMINATI

05-27-2007, 11:35 AM

:crafty: Well there you go Illuminati, your boxing world may be all but dead, but atleast the UFC is finally giving you some excitement.
actually kaukip youre fears of picking a white fighter follow you to the end of the world...you're fear run deep, years and years of disappointment has made you trust NO white fighter to ever win WORLD TITLES...Pavlik, Abraham they could be Middleweight champion..but your fear makes you diss them..so you most aline yourself with one that is not your own, one 2 string mexican boxer called Antonio Margarito...:tease:

Orthodox Crusader

05-27-2007, 11:51 AM

I'm jewish, sweet cheeks. Perhaps you came in late on the joke. :rolleyes:

Nah, I think I was just banned at the time. Again.

KaukipRrr

05-27-2007, 01:25 PM

actually kaukip your fears of picking a white fighter follow you to the end of the world...you're fear run deep, years and years of disappointment has made you trust NO white fighter to ever win WORLD TITLES...Pavlik, Abraham they could be Middleweight champion..but your fear makes you diss them..so you most aline yourself with one that is not your own, one 2 string mexican boxer called Antonio Margarito

:crafty: I don't expect an individual with race ceaselessly on the brain, to ever be able to think outside of it's boundaries, therefore you've predictably formulated yet another twisted theory that reflects your own beliefs. Just for the sake of excersizing, I'll inform you what's ACTUALLY going on in my head son, as attested to by my precedent of posts. First of all, I do not diss white fighters in the slightest, that's a soft reflex action, but, but, but, I DID used to stir up Orthadox Cruisader by acting like a heartbroken conservative white-american, until I think he finally detected that I was just distorting the media's unfair sentiments and disdain for the unwanted influx of Russian heavyweights, you know what I'm talking about?..."All our guys are playing basketball!" :lol: , I also agree with OC when it comes to forms of journalism like Steve Kim's recent produce. I ofcourse, can't agree with everything Orthadox says, he's a bit like you, race is an obstacle your both unable to see through, and by detecting YOUR traces of posts Illuminati, haven't I done quite the opposite to what your alluding to as a 'lack of racial pride'?, by inflating your 'pattern' centred around 'kill whitey' and projecting it onto these walls ....high and ....wide?..:crafty: Coincidentally, on your quip, that 'I've had years of dissapointment' , you're obviously reminiscing on the good times aren't you Illuminati?..:crafty: aaaah? your voluntarily feeding me information about the make-up of your soul, and I can't help but to giggle like a wicked witch :crafty: !!...
Now to continuously shatter your blunt thesis on my apparent insecurities, the only white fighter I've picked against recently was Andrade over Kessler, I picked Pavlik to beat Miranda, wasn't that 'brave' in particular? I also picked Valuev over Ruiz, Chagaev over Ruiz, and Dzindziruk over Santos, just to name a few ':crafty: ',....but, I don't pick based on race or nationality, these are observations in retrospect, and what I really believe, which should be quite obvious to everyone when it comes to prizefighters, is that good individual boxers are actually the 'race' that dominates the sport. Racial superiority aka your way of thinking, doesn't add up when the best middleweight in the world is black, and the SECOND best middleweight in the world is white, that kind've contradicts the 'range' a bit doesn't it?..:rolleyes: still I ofcourse don't expect you to understand, 'symbols' boy :crafty: .

ILLUMINATI

05-27-2007, 02:21 PM

:crafty: I don't expect an individual with race ceaselessly on the brain, to ever be able to think outside of it's boundaries, therefore you've predictably formulated yet another twisted theory that reflects your own beliefs. Just for the sake of excersizing, I'll inform you what's ACTUALLY going on in my head son, as attested to by my precedent of posts. First of all, I do not diss white fighters in the slightest, that's a soft reflex action, but, but, but, I DID used to stir up Orthadox Cruisader by acting like a heartbroken conservative white-american, until I think he finally detected that I was just distorting the media's unfair sentiments and disdain for the unwanted influx of Russian heavyweights, you know what I'm talking about?..."All our guys are playing basketball!" :lol: , I also agree with OC when it comes to forms of journalism like Steve Kim's recent produce. I ofcourse, can't agree with everything Orthadox says, he's a bit like you, race is an obstacle your both unable to see through, and by detecting YOUR traces of posts Illuminati, haven't I done quite the opposite to what your alluding to as a 'lack of racial pride'?, by inflating your 'pattern' centred around 'kill whitey' and projecting it onto these walls ....high and ....wide?..:crafty: Coincidentally, on your quip, that 'I've had years of dissapointment' , you're obviously reminiscing on the good times aren't you Illuminati?..:crafty: aaaah? your voluntarily feeding me information about the make-up of your soul, and I can't help but to giggle like a wicked witch :crafty: !!...
Now to continuously shatter your blunt thesis on my apparent insecurities, the only white fighter I've picked against recently was Andrade over Kessler, I picked Pavlik to beat Miranda, wasn't that 'brave' in particular? I also picked Valuev over Ruiz, Chagaev over Ruiz, and Dzindziruk over Santos, just to name a few '',....but, I don't pick based on race or nationality, these are observations in retrospect, and what I really believe, which should be quite obvious to everyone when it comes to prizefighters, is that good individual boxers are actually the 'race' that dominates the sport. Racial superiority aka your way of thinking, doesn't add up when the best middleweight in the world is black, and the SECOND best middleweight in the world is white, that kind've contradicts the 'range' a bit doesn't it?..:rolleyes: still I ofcourse don't expect you to understand, 'symbols' boy .
Kauki living in the glory of Valuev and Chagaev...:notallthere:..and i ment white american fighter...:crafty: the euro can hide out like Calslappy and Ottke. Or brave it out like Hatton, Klitschko's or at least call out AND ACTUALLY fight the best like Eubanks, Benn..

ILLUMINATI

05-27-2007, 02:22 PM

and stop using up all the smileys you fuck!

KaukipRrr

05-27-2007, 02:41 PM

Kauki living in the glory of Valuev and Chagaev...:notallthere:..and i ment white american fighter...:crafty: the euro can hide out like Calslappy and Ottke. Or brave it out like Hatton, Klitschko's or at least call out AND ACTUALLY fight the best like Eubanks, Benn..

:doh:, this can't be happening.

Thank you for participating Illuminati.

ILLUMINATI

05-27-2007, 02:45 PM

:doh:, this can't be happening.

Thank you for participating Illuminati.

Make ask Chinus Maximus..that Margarito doesn't quit like your past favorites...

KaukipRrr

05-27-2007, 02:50 PM

Make ask Chinus Maximus..that Margarito doesn't quit like your past favorites...

and the tonka truck in the sand pitt goes 'brmmm!!"...

ILLUMINATI

05-27-2007, 02:56 PM

and the tonka truck in the sand pitt goes 'brmmm!!"...

Margarito no puede con el tonka...:nono:

Rubio MHS

05-27-2007, 05:18 PM

:nono: Few people in the world can take this shot....

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/30000pumas/LiddellJackson.gifThat was just an arm punch, and it wouldn't have even come close to landing on even a mediocre cruiserweight. Liddell has absolutely no technique. He flails his arms like a windmill, and pulls straight back.

winner by choke

05-27-2007, 05:51 PM

That was just an arm punch, and it wouldn't have even come close to landing on even a mediocre cruiserweight. Liddell has absolutely no technique. He flails his arms like a windmill, and pulls straight back.

you kidding me...an arm punch?

all his back was into it and look at his left foot...anything but an arm punch.

Rubio MHS

05-27-2007, 06:37 PM

Either way, the only place you see punching as sloppy as Chuck's is in Toughman competitions. He got knocked out because he threw punches like a windmill and pulled straight back. You'll see that kind of knockout punch three hours before the main event on any boxing card.

cdogg187

05-27-2007, 09:05 PM

If by completely out, you mean 10 count? Nah, he wasn't. But Norris wouldn't have been in condition to continue after a 50 count.

Still, being blasted by Jackson is no shame. Having it done by a JAB by Simon Brown? Being hurt by anyone who touched him? Thats bad.

I feel sorry for Norris, because he took a couple of life changing beatings when he hung around a little too long. Without his reflexes and speed, he was a deer in the headlights and that poor punch resistance was then combined with his huge heart and will to win....thats how people get hurt and Terry did.

Karma is a bitch...he made his whole goddamn rep as this "great" fighter by beating up old Welterweights

He was an exciting version of Jermain Taylor