Anyone else watching AA/Demers?

[steve_dave]

Round one is over. Demers is pretty crappy... I've been following him for a few years now. AA probably won the round.

[steve_dave]

AA TKO 3.

[ElTerriblee]

Oh my god the greatest, what a performance, unbelievable, Kelly was awesome. Btw, isn´t Kelly a girls name? :tease: :tease:

Abraham wins TKO3. :clap: :clap:

[crold1]

Good, safe comeback foe. AA looks back to what he was showing pre-snapped jaw. He fits in very nice with Pavlik or Taylor.

[steve_dave]

For those that haven't seen Demers, he can't fight.

[ElTerriblee]

For those that haven't seen Demers, he can't fight.

That´s self-explanatory, he´s Canadian. :slap:

[steve_dave]

That´s self-explanatory, he´s Canadian. :slap:

He's the absolute worst of the bunch that was being hyped out of Montreal two or three years ago. I've been saying AA is crap for a while now, but at a world class level. Demers is crap at the club level.

[Azazel]

He's the absolute worst of the bunch that was being hyped out of Montreal two or three years ago. I've been saying AA is crap for a while now, but at a world class level. Demers is crap at the club level.

I disagree, Demers got talent, he's probably not on the world level, he's far too flawed for it, but he's a good ankward fighter. Tonight he froze, I didn't expect him to win, but he was pathetic. Also, the stoppage was ridiculous ( it was awfull in the Potvekin fight too ) not that it would have mattered anyway, but tonight refs made sure the locals went home with the W.
BTW,I'm no fan of either Demers or especially L'Heureux.

[steve_dave]

I disagree, Demers got talent, he's probably not on the world level, he's far too flawed for it, but he's a good ankward fighter. Tonight he froze, I didn't expect him to win, but he was pathetic. Also, the stoppage was ridiculous ( it was awfull in the Potvekin fight too ) not that it would have mattered anyway, but tonight refs made sure the locals went home with the W.
BTW,I'm no fan of either Demers or especially L'Heureux.

He may have a little talent, but he can't box.

[Azazel]

He may have a little talent, but he can't box.
he reminds me a lot of sergio mora

[Azazel]

demers never should have moved to 160, with his style, he needs to be the bigger man in the ring.

[Tam Tam]

Anyone who thinks Abraham is crappy, straight up needs to find a new sport to follow.

[Jesus of montreal]

the only good fighter on the card was povetkin

[Orthodox Crusader]

He's the absolute worst of the bunch that was being hyped out of Montreal two or three years ago. I've been saying AA is crap for a while now, but at a world class level. Demers is crap at the club level.


Oh? Can you please point to the precise moment in time that Arthur Abraham went into your "book of crappy fighters"?

It would be ever so great to find out just when you arrived at this conclusion.

[dymipepel]

Oh? Can you please point to the precise moment in time that Arthur Abraham went into your "book of crappy fighters"?

It would be ever so great to find out just when you arrived at this conclusion.

I don't intend to speak for Steve_dave, but my guess is that he arrived at that conclusion, when he saw Abraham quit against quite limited fighter in Miranda (this, after promising to put Miranda in a hospital during a pre-fight press-conference).
Abraham even surpassed Vitaly Klitschko in a rare display of complete inability to put his money where his mouth is, when, instead of putting Miranda in hospital, as he promised, he himself ended up in hospital instead.

[Orthodox Crusader]

I don't intend to speak for Steve_dave, but my guess is that he arrived at that conclusion, when he saw Abraham quit against quite limited fighter in Miranda (this, after promising to put Miranda in a hospital during a pre-fight press-conference).
Abraham even surpassed Vitaly Klitschko in a rare display of complete inability to put his money where his mouth is, when, instead of putting Miranda in hospital, as he promised, he himself ended up in hospital instead.

post reported, you sack of trolling shit.

[dymipepel]

post reported, you sack of trolling shit.

Oh, no......Another whiny Euro!
You see, Orto, you seem to have a wrong notion about what constitutes toughness. For some reason, you adore quitting pussies like Vitaly and Abrafag, but when the push comes to shove, they whine and moan. And so do you. See the similarities? :cheer:

[Free Ike]

This Demers guy must be a club fighter. You have to suck royally to be kayoed by the worst titleholder in boxing in weights that matter. AA is garbage. Frankly, he is the worst middleweight title holder in history besides William Joppy.

[KaukipRrr]

Oh, no......Another whiny Euro!
You see, Orto, you seem to have a wrong notion about what constitutes toughness. For some reason, you adore quitting pussies like Vitaly and Abrafag, but when the push comes to shove, they whine and moan. And so do you. See the similarities? :cheer:

Well I tend to agree, it's amazing how Fraud is still able to use his legs when he hurts his hands,..are they directly connected?,..hands and legs,...yeah it's all part of the same skeleton I guess,....how does he still use them so well?..:dunno:

[Orthodox Crusader]

This Demers guy must be a club fighter. You have to suck royally to be kayoed by the worst titleholder in boxing in weights that matter. AA is garbage. Frankly, he is the worst middleweight title holder in history besides William Joppy.


What about being beaten on points? Do you still suck royally, or just suck??:dunno: :dunno:

[Free Ike]

What about being beaten on points? Do you still suck royally, or just suck??:dunno: :dunno:
iF YOU LOSE TO AA, you are not an ellite fighter, period.

[Orthodox Crusader]

iF YOU LOSE TO AA, you are not an ellite fighter, period.


so how the FUCK has Kelly Holmes Pavlikkk gotten to where he is by beating Arthurs leftovers????

[Free Ike]

so how the FUCK has Kelly Holmes Pavlikkk gotten to where he is by beating Arthurs leftovers????
He dominated and stopped him without paid off judges and bs point deductions. He also didn't get free plastic surgery or a few weeks in the hospital. That's what he did.

[Azazel]

I don't intend to speak for Steve_dave, but my guess is that he arrived at that conclusion, when he saw Abraham quit against quite limited fighter in Miranda (this, after promising to put Miranda in a hospital during a pre-fight press-conference).
Abraham even surpassed Vitaly Klitschko in a rare display of complete inability to put his money where his mouth is, when, instead of putting Miranda in hospital, as he promised, he himself ended up in hospital instead.
:lol: :lol:

But seriously, Abraham is pretty good, not top shelf but a solid champion nonetheless

[steve_dave]

Anyone who thinks Abraham is crappy, straight up needs to find a new sport to follow.

We'll see. He's crappy among good fighters. The guy, for the most part, fucking sucks.

As an elite fighter.

[steve_dave]

Oh? Can you please point to the precise moment in time that Arthur Abraham went into your "book of crappy fighters"?

It would be ever so great to find out just when you arrived at this conclusion.

I don't know. I've seen all of his fights over the past few years, I've never been impressed.

[Free Ike]

Anyone who thinks Abraham is crappy, straight up needs to find a new sport to follow.
I would love to read your argument that he is good. Have you seen him fight. AA is the worst middleweight belt holder in history except possibly William Joppy.I wait anxiously for any possible argument you could have.

[Tam Tam]

I would love to read your argument that he is good. Have you seen him fight. AA is the worst middleweight belt holder in history except possibly William Joppy.I wait anxiously for any possible argument you could have.
No thanks. You're free to think what you want and I'm not interested in wasting my time trying to convince you otherwise.

[Free Ike]

No thanks. You're free to think what you want and I'm not interested in wasting my time trying to convince you otherwise.
Because you can't. You can say you love him and he might potentially be good but his best win , legitimate win, was against Kinggsley Ikeke. I thought he struggled and lost to Eastman and struggled with Jantuah. Edison Mierda proved to be just as bad as I predicted and he nearly ended Abraham's career. A simple midwest prospect destroyed, dominated and stopped Mierda something "Mr. Great" NEVER came close to doing. Pavlik outclassed Miranda; Abraham needed shoddy judges, a German home court and BS deductions, including a 5 minute or longer medical examination DURING A FIGHT HE QUIT IN!! There is nothing Abraham has done to make me think anything I have written is even inaccurate as your ridiculous statement that anyone who thinks AA is not a good fighter should find another sport. AA wouldn't last 12 rounds with either Pavlik or Taylor. He'd even lose to Sturm.

[Tam Tam]

Because you can't.
Thats it. Congratulations and a good night.

[Free Ike]

Thats it. Congratulations and a good night.
aRE YOU TRYING TO TROLL because your hero is banned? Why do you mkae ridiculous statements and then run from them. I know lads with bulimia are moody, but you need to relax and eat and all will be well. Good night as well.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Actually I think Abrahammy Vs Joppy or "turtleneck shorts" Holmes would have been pick em fights.

[His_Royness]

aRE YOU TRYING TO TROLL because your hero is banned? Why do you mkae ridiculous statements and then run from them. I know lads with bulimia


oh oh oh thin THIN line Mr. retired :nono:


BTW, get the fight - Abraham looked really good i was live at the arena yesterday and the crowd was absolutely nuts... :cheer:



@ mws - maybe 10 years ago right now he would knock Joppy into another continuum...

[mexican wedding shirt]

I meant back when Joppy and Holmes were title holders.

[Orthodox Crusader]

I don't know. I've seen all of his fights over the past few years, I've never been impressed.


But Kelly Holmes Pavlikkk knocking out a weight drained leftovers Miranda...is the high water mark or something????

I've seen none of Pavliks fights, and you know what, I don't fucking have to. He's a shaven skulled whiteboy from Iowa McKansas. I KNOW he can't fucking fight. And even if he could, eating the cats leftovers never made you an alpha dawg, aiight???

[Orthodox Crusader]

We'll see. He's crappy among good fighters. The guy, for the most part, fucking sucks.

As an elite fighter.


most retarded comment ever.

1. He's "crappy" among "good" fighters. Despite the fact he's never lost.:rolleyes:

2. He sucks...as an "elite fighter"

Either he's fucking elite or he's not. There is no such thing as a bad elite fighter.

[steve_dave]

most retarded comment ever.

1. He's "crappy" among "good" fighters. Despite the fact he's never lost.:rolleyes:

2. He sucks...as an "elite fighter"

Either he's fucking elite or he's not. There is no such thing as a bad elite fighter.

Sorry, I was drunk when I posted that. He can obviously fight... he has a world title. I just mean that among the top middleweights, it will be proven over the next couple years that he's not as good.

[Orthodox Crusader]

Sorry, I was drunk when I posted that. He can obviously fight... he has a world title. I just mean that among the top middleweights, it will be proven over the next couple years that he's not as good.


Shit. Fighting the likes of Miranda and Jantuah, if he was as bad as is thought, he should have been beaten already. He hasn't been beaten.

PS.."not as good"...as who??

Guys that HAVE already lost?

Miranda?
Taylor?
Winky?

:dunno:

[ElTerriblee]

Sorry, I was drunk when I posted that. He can obviously fight... he has a world title. I just mean that among the top middleweights, it will be proven over the next couple years that he's not as good.

Who would that be Taylor, Wright and Pavlik? So at worst he´s No. 4 in the middleweight division? Based on resume and the fact that Winky is fighting at 170, he´d be #2.

Btw, Universum has a guy on their roster, who might be the best of the whole bunch. 25 year old Gennady Golovkin, who is 8-0 (8 KO´s). He was a world champion in 2003 and Olympic silver medalist in Athens. Another guy Taylor has to duck, he better move to 175 now, where nobody besides Dawson is any good or young. :lol: :lol:

http://www.boxing.de/typo3temp/pics/e4dc7e9dcf.jpg

Is that Pavlik on the ground? :tease:

http://www.boxing.de/typo3temp/pics/fb805d684f.jpg

If he stares Taylor down like that, he might quit at the staredown. :crafty:

[Orthodox Crusader]

Here is the link for the best bits of the Demers fight:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VV8vo6KE73A

In fairness to Arthur, if the Germans would just STFU saying things like"Dubbel Trubbel" and "Trippel Trubbel" everything would go a lot better.

Clearly Demers was shit, but as comeback opponents go he was par for the course. Arthur showed some power in there. Great finishing shot.:nono:

[steve_dave]

Shit. Fighting the likes of Miranda and Jantuah, if he was as bad as is thought, he should have been beaten already. He hasn't been beaten.

PS.."not as good"...as who??

Guys that HAVE already lost?

Miranda?
Taylor?
Winky?

:dunno:

Jantuah was a chinny 154 lber who easily went the distance with AA. The likes or Miranda? That guy is a nobody, like I've been saying.... Pavlik only proved that. AA wasn't good enough to do so.

[Orthodox Crusader]

Jantuah was a chinny 154 lber who easily went the distance with AA. The likes or Miranda? That guy is a nobody, like I've been saying.... Pavlik only proved that. AA wasn't good enough to do so.


Jantuah wasted Santos in 5 rounds........thats prime Winky Wright territory.

And please, if Jantuah is a chinny 154lb, what is Ouma? And Spinks?

We already know that AA has that Stevie Johsnton thing going on. He fights down to the level of his opposition?

Does Taylor? Or is he just that bad??

[steve_dave]

Jantuah wasted Santos in 5 rounds........thats prime Winky Wright territory.

And please, if Jantuah is a chinny 154lb, what is Ouma? And Spinks?

We already know that AA has that Stevie Johsnton thing going on. He fights down to the level of his opposition?

Does Taylor? Or is he just that bad??

Sorry, didn't know that was a Taylor thing.

The thing is... I'm too fucking objective to be dragged in to such a silly arguement. I just call them as I see 'em. Taylor, lately, isn't very good either. But he has fought Hopkins and Wright, both of whom would have out-pointed AA easily.