UFC fights don't have the same rewatchable value as boxing does.

[slystaff]

You could watch Tito-Vargas, Chico-Castillo 1, Hagler-Hearns...blah blah blah...numerous times.

I've never seen ONE MMA fight that you would want to look at a second time other than just the KO highlight.

Discuss.:cool:

[Tam Tam]

You could watch Tito-Vargas, Chico-Castillo 1, Hagler-Hearns...blah blah blah...numerous times.

I've never seen ONE MMA fight that you would want to look at a second time other than just the KO highlight.

Discuss.:cool:
Trolling.

[slystaff]

Trolling.

how so? It's a matter for discussion...

[ILLUMINATI]

I'm not a fan of mma..but anything with Fedor Emelianenko i enjoy...even when he dominates(almost always) it looks great...artistic...

[Matchup_Analyzer]

What was better between the Mayweather-DLH card and the Rampage-Liddell card?

:dunno:

[Bob N Weave]

I agree for the most part.
But, It depends which fights you are watching. I can watch the Crocop/Fedor fight many times over. As well as many other action packed fights with lots of striking. Fights that end up on the ground that mainly end up as grappling matches can get boring and not worth watching again.

Then again not all boxing matches are worth watching again. "Spinks/Taylor" :shit:

[ArturoGatti]

I agree for the most part.
But, It depends which fights you are watching. I can watch the Crocop/Fedor fight many times over. As well as many other action packed fights with lots of striking. Fights that end up on the ground that mainly end up as grappling matches can get boring and not worth watching again.

Then again not all boxing matches are worth watching again. "Spinks/Taylor" :shit:Karo Parisyan/Diego Sanchez is a good one.

[ILLUMINATI]

What was better between the Mayweather-DLH card and the Rampage-Liddell card?

:dunno:

Mayweather vs. DLH....easy...

[valdosta]

I think overall MMA losses in this spot. A great boxing match is better and easier to rewatch than any MMA fights IMO. MMA has other advantages, that is not 1 of them though.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Mayweather vs. DLH....easy...

Yeah I heard the UFC fights ended too quick or weren't competitve.

I did see the Mayweather-DLH card and I can honestly say it was not very good at all, the best fight on that card was Bautista-Medina.

[slystaff]

Mayweather vs. DLH....easy...

Me too. Not even close..

[Tam Tam]

Anyone who can honestly say they'd sooner re-watch the Mayweather-De La Hoya card, obviously isn't a fan of BOTH sports, which kind of ruins this thread. Because if you even have a passing interest in MMA, you would pick this weekends card over that over-hyped, under fought, "super-fight".

[Mitchell Kane]

Nick Diaz-Takanori Gomi is re-watchable.

Overall, that entire card was much better than UFC 71, IMO.

[Baron]

Nick Diaz-Takanori Gomi is re-watchable.

Overall, that entire card was much better than UFC 71, IMO.Agreed, that was a hell of a card. (If you're alluding to Pride: Second Coming)

[Baron]

BTW, concerning the Gomi Diaz fight, does anybody know why the result was overturned?

[Mitchell Kane]

BTW, concerning the Gomi Diaz fight, does anybody know why the result was overturned?

Marijuana.

[Baron]

Marijuana.Thanks.

[Trplsec]

Agree with the title of the thread... I think the nuances of boxing make it somewhat rewatchable while in MMA it seems the results are the most important thing.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Anyone who can honestly say they'd sooner re-watch the Mayweather-De La Hoya card, obviously isn't a fan of BOTH sports, which kind of ruins this thread. Because if you even have a passing interest in MMA, you would pick this weekends card over that over-hyped, under fought, "super-fight".

Which card was better to watch with a group of friends, I saw Mayweather-DLH with some friends from here and we chatted through the undercard, I mean we only really started giving our immediate attention when things got heated during Bautista-Medina, but between the KD's and when either was hurt, it just didn't grab our attention that much, the actual Main event we were on the edge of our seat for no reason, it was failure
I didn't hear too many good things about the Rampage-Liddell card as a whole, I heard the PPV lasted about half the time it was supposed to go, I heard there was an early stoppage in a couple of the fights and a decision among the rest. So just going by these 2 cards one Boxing and one MMA, which was better to watch with some fellas?

[Tam Tam]

Which card was better to watch with a group of friends, I saw Mayweather-DLH with some friends from here and we chatted through the undercard, I mean we only really started giving our immediate attention when things got heated during Bautista-Medina, but between the KD's and when either was hurt, it just didn't grab our attention that much, the actual Main event we were on the edge of our seat for no reason, it was failure
I didn't hear too many good things about the Rampage-Liddell card as a whole, I heard the PPV lasted about half the time it was supposed to go, I heard there was an early stoppage in a couple of the fights and a decision among the rest. So just going by these 2 cards one Boxing and one MMA, which was better to watch with some fellas?
I watched the De La Hoya v Mayweather fight @ an absolutely packed bar down here...and I paid hardly any attention to any of the fights, bar the main event. And that was only because I had money riding on it. Andrew and I were talking about the football most of the time and the spectacular form of the Tigers. :bears:

That fight never excited me one bit. From the time it was signed, to the day of the fight. Nothing.

[slystaff]

Anyone who can honestly say they'd sooner re-watch the Mayweather-De La Hoya card, obviously isn't a fan of BOTH sports, which kind of ruins this thread. Because if you even have a passing interest in MMA, you would pick this weekends card over that over-hyped, under fought, "super-fight".

Just shut up! You're little more than an internet troll, a mere extension of guys like Rubio and for such a person I find you to be far too opinionated.


If you prefer to REwatch guys grappling on the floor, sudden knockouts and ground and pound over a fascinating tactical struggle between two highly skilled boxers...then that's your affair...but don't try to assert that yours s the only correct stance.

[slystaff]

Agree with the title of the thread... I think the nuances of boxing make it somewhat rewatchable while in MMA it seems the results are the most important thing.

EXACTLY!! Very well articulated! :clap:

[whiskey]

Also agreed with the thread title. I'm certainly more of a boxing fan than an MMA guy, but i'm not one of the haters. If you want to argue about the direction of both sports, the value of their PPV's or any other subject between the two it's a separate argument.

I have enjoyed a lot of MMA fights. One could even argue that they hype surrounding the "next big match" in UFC rivals boxing in terms of hype and anticipation.

However in pure terms of rewatchability, it's not as good as boxing. That's certainly one area the sweet science has an edge.

I've got to know some big MMA fans (and yes the numbers are growing), but not one of them has any kind of collection. Yeah i know the sport doesn't have the history and so on, but we're talking huge fans that don't have a single fight recorded. Even when they order a PPV event they don't bother. When i was 15 years old I recorded fights on the old HVS and watched them multiple times.

MMA makes for some great highlights (boxing even moreso IMO) but great boxing matches are timeless.

[Tam Tam]

Just shut up! You're little more than an internet troll, a mere extension of guys like Rubio and for such a person I find you to be far too opinionated.
Uh uh uh, I already pulled that card on you, Venus. Nice try though.


If you prefer to REwatch guys grappling on the floor, sudden knockouts and ground and pound over a fascinating tactical struggle between two highly skilled boxers...then that's your affair...but don't try to assert that yours s the only correct stance.
You call it "fascinating". I call it boring, predictable and completely uninspiring. It was the biggest bomb of a 'superfight', since...well...for a long time.

[Double L]

You could watch Tito-Vargas, Chico-Castillo 1, Hagler-Hearns...blah blah blah...numerous times.

I've never seen ONE MMA fight that you would want to look at a second time other than just the KO highlight.

Discuss.:cool:

good point. and i agree. and i was thinking the same thing actually, as i comtemplated whether or not to record saturday's show. i recorded it just to be safe, but once it was over i realized i'd never watch it again.

[Tam Tam]

good point. and i agree. and i was thinking the same thing actually, as i comtemplated whether or not to record saturday's show. i recorded it just to be safe, but once it was over i realized i'd never watch it again.
Remember now, you're asking boxing fans what they think. Do this on an MMA board and watch the response turn 180. I'm amazed at the ignorance in general of both camps.

[slystaff]

Also agreed with the thread title. I'm certainly more of a boxing fan than an MMA guy, but i'm not one of the haters. If you want to argue about the direction of both sports, the value of their PPV's or any other subject between the two it's a separate argument.

I have enjoyed a lot of MMA fights. One could even argue that they hype surrounding the "next big match" in UFC rivals boxing in terms of hype and anticipation.

However in pure terms of rewatchability, it's not as good as boxing. That's certainly one area the sweet science has an edge.

I've got to know some big MMA fans (and yes the numbers are growing), but not one of them has any kind of collection. Yeah i know the sport doesn't have the history and so on, but we're talking huge fans that don't have a single fight recorded. Even when they order a PPV event they don't bother. When i was 15 years old I recorded fights on the old HVS and watched them multiple times.

MMA makes for some great highlights (boxing even moreso IMO) but great boxing matches are timeless.

Flawless! :clap:

[whiskey]

Remember now, you're asking boxing fans what they think. Do this on an MMA board and watch the response turn 180. I'm amazed at the ignorance in general of both camps.

I've already addressed that in my post. Naturally if you bring it up in an MMA forum you'll get different responses. People will often take it as simply being antagonistic and will autmatically take the opposite side.

I still stand by what I posted.

[Tam Tam]

I've already addressed that in my post. Naturally if you bring it up in an MMA forum you'll get different responses. People will often take it as simply being antagonistic and will autmatically take the opposite side.

I still stand by what I posted.
I'm sure you do, Sour Mash, but that antagonistic side is about 75% of those that chime in here. Venus and RJ being the most obvious.

[whiskey]

I'm sure you do, Sour Mash, but that antagonistic side is about 75% of those that chime in here. Venus and RJ being the most obvious.

Maybe so, but the crux of my post is nonethless true and you know it.:bears:

[Tam Tam]

Maybe so, but the crux of my post is nonethless true and you know it.:bears:
Well, no. A topic like this has no 'truth', only an individual's version of the truth. I do agree that you're generally an honest bottle of grog and that keeps you held reasonably high in my estimations, but at the end of the day...even the most honest of opinions, is still an opinion.

[whiskey]

Well, no. A topic like this has no 'truth', only an individual's version of the truth. I do agree that you're generally an honest bottle of grog and that keeps you held reasonably high in my estimations, but at the end of the day...even the most honest of opinions, is still an opinion.

True enough. It's not something than can be measured. However i have brought up the some facts about MMA fans and Boxing fans in terms of fights they "own" and watch. You seem to want to play devil's advocate in this one moreso than offering your own opinion, because it will be in agreement with the topic.

[slystaff]

Well, no. A topic like this has no 'truth', only an individual's version of the truth. I do agree that you're generally an honest bottle of grog and that keeps you held reasonably high in my estimations, but at the end of the day...even the most honest of opinions, is still an opinion.

Dude, no one cares about your estimations.

[Tam Tam]

True enough. It's not something than can be measured. However i have brought up the some facts about MMA fans and Boxing fans in terms of fights they "own" and watch. You seem to want to play devil's advocate in this one moreso than offering your own opinion, because it will be in agreement with the topic.
Ok, you've baited me out. I have an extensive MMA collection and I would venture to say most true MMA do as well. I've got Abdu Dabi tapes, old backyard shooto crap, RINGS tourneys from years ago, every Pride..on VHS :lol: ...a tonne of doco's, EVERY filmed K-1 tourney up to 2005, some old american style kickboxing events, local fight cards and so on.

I also have about 10,000 boxing fights laying about my house and my folks house. I'm a fight fan. Thats what they do.

[Tam Tam]

Dude, no one cares about your estimations.
Then stop replying to me, Venus. 86.6 proof and I hold a nice, firm, tight, co-existence @ Fightbeat. My estimation is everything to him. For you? Thats your right to downplay the importance of my estimation. Don't pretend you speak for every cretin on this site though. Your head isn't so large.

[whiskey]

Ok, you've baited me out. I have an extensive MMA collection and I would venture to say most true MMA do as well. I've got Abdu Dabi tapes, old backyard shooto crap, RINGS tourneys from years ago, every Pride..on VHS :lol: ...a tonne of doco's, EVERY filmed K-1 tourney up to 2005, some old american style kickboxing events, local fight cards and so on.

I also have about 10,000 boxing fights laying about my house and my folks house. I'm a fight fan. Thats what they do.

I don't doubt that you do. Point is that boxing still has more rewatchability and you know it.

Just fucking admit it! :warning:

[Tam Tam]

I don't doubt that you do. Point is that boxing still has more rewatchability and you know it.

Just fucking admit it! :warning:
I won't conceed that. I will however conceed that boxing has a better chance of a fight occuring that has high re-watchability, simply because of the sheer weight of numbers in play. There's more boxing going on. Simple as that.

As for what is more re-watchable? Again, that is purely subjective. Its like asking someone if they would rather re-watch Saw or The Godfather. They're completely different genre's, sold in the same shop.

[Tyler Durden]

14.

1. Was Mayweather-Castillo I a just decision?
2. What happened to Zeljko Mavrovic?
3. What would've happened if Ike Ibeabuchi hadn't gone to jail?
4. Is Mike Tyson the greatest heavyweight of all time?
5. Which fighters are gay?
6.Why does ____ have a beef with _____ ?
7. If Vitali Klitschko had been given one more round, would he have stopped <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">Lennox</st1:place> Lewis?
8. Are there too many weight divisions?
9. Are there too many sanctioning bodies?
10. Should Richard Steele have stopped Chavez-Taylor I?
11. Who is your favorite fighter?/ Who is your favorite fighter to watch?
12. Which fighter do you wish would lose or get KO?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
13. Do you think Floyd will really retire?<o:p></o:p>
14. UFC/MMA is better than boxing, boxing is better than UFC/MMA.<o:p></o:p>
15. 10 ounce gloves. Good or worst thing to ever happen to boxing?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>

[Tam Tam]

1. Was Mayweather-Castillo I a just decision?
2. What happened to Zeljko Mavrovic?
3. What would've happened if Ike Ibeabuchi hadn't gone to jail?
4. Is Mike Tyson the greatest heavyweight of all time?
5. Which fighters are gay?
6.Why does ____ have a beef with _____ ?
7. If Vitali Klitschko had been given one more round, would he have stopped <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">Lennox</st1:place> Lewis?
8. Are there too many weight divisions?
9. Are there too many sanctioning bodies?
10. Should Richard Steele have stopped Chavez-Taylor I?
11. Who is your favorite fighter?/ Who is your favorite fighter to watch?
12. Which fighter do you wish would lose or get KO?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
13. Do you think Floyd will really retire?<o:p></o:p>
14. UFC/MMA is better than boxing, boxing is better than UFC/MMA.<o:p></o:p>
15. 10 ounce gloves. Good or worst thing to ever happen to boxing?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>

16. Antonio Tarver: Eyes open or closed?

[Tyler Durden]

16. Antonio Tarver: Eyes open or closed?

:nono: that hasn't been done in a year....

[Tam Tam]

:nono: that hasn't been done in a year....
:nono: liar!

[Tyler Durden]

:nono: liar!

2 years then.....

16. Fighters with weak chins, name them.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

The MMA fight i can watch over and over is Lidell-White. Fast paced 1 round war.

I can't think of any other MMA fights ive watched again intentionally.

[LOK]

Anyone who can honestly say they'd sooner re-watch the Mayweather-De La Hoya card, obviously isn't a fan of BOTH sports, which kind of ruins this thread. Because if you even have a passing interest in MMA, you would pick this weekends card over that over-hyped, under fought, "super-fight".

I can not believe any BOXING fan would not like the Mayweather-DLH fight.. IMO it was better than I thought it would be.

people act like they should have been slugging! lol

Floyd does not fight like that..

I dont get when people only want to see unskilled guys swinging away with no defense.. Floyd and DLH was a very good fight!

[*Z*]

You all can argue this shit all day. The fact of the matter is rewatchability is a matter of opinion.

Think what you want about "Wrestling matches" and "boring ground and pound" but there is as much skill involved in MMA as there is in boxing. If you know what you're seeing, you can appreciate it. If you're not a fan, that is your opinion, it's not fact.

[Baron]

You all can argue this shit all day. The fact of the matter is rewatchability is a matter of opinion.

Think what you want about "Wrestling matches" and "boring ground and pound" but there is as much skill involved in MMA as there is in boxing. If you know what you're seeing, you can appreciate it. If you're not a fan, that is your opinion, it's not fact.This post makes a lot of sense. Who hacked into *Z*'s account? :tease:

[*Z*]

This post makes a lot of sense. Who hacked into *Z*'s account? :tease:

Shhh, don't tell him. :lol:

[Hanzy]

Ok, you've baited me out. I have an extensive MMA collection and I would venture to say most true MMA do as well. I've got Abdu Dabi tapes, old backyard shooto crap, RINGS tourneys from years ago, every Pride..on VHS :lol: ...a tonne of doco's, EVERY filmed K-1 tourney up to 2005, some old american style kickboxing events, local fight cards and so on.

I also have about 10,000 boxing fights laying about my house and my folks house. I'm a fight fan. Thats what they do.

And despite all this accumulated knowledge from having watched years and years and years of MMA fights, you believed Tim Sylvia was an elite striker! Poor guy!

[phonetap]

You could watch Tito-Vargas, Chico-Castillo 1, Hagler-Hearns...blah blah blah...numerous times.

I've never seen ONE MMA fight that you would want to look at a second time other than just the KO highlight.

Discuss.:cool:

you are correct on this sly. mma will never generate the suspense & drama that a truly great boxing fight can. in boxing (i.e chico/castillo) you can have a fighter who's been dropped and severely hurt, get up, beat the count and courageously come back. in mma, once a guy is hurt severely the fight is over...

[jarhead]

I will never understand the need for a fan to bash another sport in an effort to boost their sport up. Both are unique individuals. I love both. Boxing will always be my first love, but I still enjoy MMA as well. Open your eyes. You may just see something you like.:popcorn:

[IHATEJONES]

Boxing is definitely more rewatchable. Not just the classic fights that everybody knows about and remembers. Holyfield-Dokes wasn't a war, but I could that fight over and over. With boxing, even if the fight isn't action-packed, you can study the technique of the fighters. With MMA, you have guys trying to do stuff that they're not even good at. When you have two wrestlers fight, when they're not of the floor dry-humping, they're gonna be on their feet displaying laughable boxing technique. I'm probably more technically sound as a boxer than Liddell or Rampage, so what would be the point of watching those guys throwing punches if I already know the result of the fight?

[phonetap]

I will never understand the need for a fan to bash another sport in an effort to boost their sport up. Both are unique individuals. I love both. Boxing will always be my first love, but I still enjoy MMA as well. Open your eyes. You may just see something you like.:popcorn:

there is much truth in this. however there is one big difference, real boxing fans who dislike mma don't fake that they are fans of mma. far too often these mma lovers pretend they are boxing fans to shield themselves from the hate label. they ramble on about how they are boxing fans and that's total bullshit. if you were truly a fan of boxing, they'd want it to prosper but no, they want boxing to die in order to elevate mma. that is NOT a fan...

[Father of Muzse]

I'm not a fan of MMA. I've always thought of it as a hybrid between wrestling and boxing.

As far as rewatching MMA matches, it's not high on my list...

"However"

The KO's are far more brutal and commonplace. Highlights of MMA fights are more rewatchable than those of boxing.

[Erratic]

Boxing is definitely more rewatchable. Not just the classic fights that everybody knows about and remembers. Holyfield-Dokes wasn't a war, but I could that fight over and over.


I thought it was a war. :dunno:

That's one of my favorite Holyfield fights, my favorite fight of his in which he wins.


You call it "fascinating". I call it boring, predictable and completely uninspiring. It was the biggest bomb of a 'superfight', since...well...for a long time.

I disagree.

De La Hoya's "superfight" with Hopkins was worse.

[*Z*]

I will never understand the need for a fan to bash another sport in an effort to boost their sport up. Both are unique individuals. I love both. Boxing will always be my first love, but I still enjoy MMA as well. Open your eyes. You may just see something you like.:popcorn:

Best post of this thread.

[MassaCure]

there is much truth in this. however there is one big difference, real boxing fans who dislike mma don't fake that they are fans of mma. far too often these mma lovers pretend they are boxing fans to shield themselves from the hate label. they ramble on about how they are boxing fans and that's total bullshit. if you were truly a fan of boxing, they'd want it to prosper but no, they want boxing to die in order to elevate mma. that is NOT a fan...

yeah how can you say your a boxing fan, and in the same breath say your sport is gonna die, and is dieing

[MassaCure]

there are some mma fights i rewatch, rampage fights have a rewatchable value because he slams people, v.silva fights for his knees, some nog fights for submissions, but fighters like tito who just ground and pound, they have very little rewatchable value to them, no one wants to watch a whole fight of humping and grinding, with no one really trying to end the fight

[mikE]

yeah how can you say your a boxing fan, and in the same breath say your sport is gonna die, and is dieing

Those people bug me because I think they are wrong, but that is not the point he was trying to make. It's not necessarily contradictory to be a fan of something and say it is going to die and/or is dying. It is contradictory to say you are a fan of something and then say you hope it dies which was his point.

[jarhead]

there is much truth in this. however there is one big difference, real boxing fans who dislike mma don't fake that they are fans of mma. far too often these mma lovers pretend they are boxing fans to shield themselves from the hate label. they ramble on about how they are boxing fans and that's total bullshit. if you were truly a fan of boxing, they'd want it to prosper but no, they want boxing to die in order to elevate mma. that is NOT a fan...

absolutley. I used to watch the pride fights on Fox Sports quite a bit. The dumbasses that hosted it tried very hard to be like Brian Kelly on ESPN. But the guy who fights also(bald headed white dude name escapes me) would constantly start off like this, "I love boxing, BUT boxing is on the way out and MMA is on the way in and up." He constantly felt the need to put boxing down. You would never hear Brian Kelly be unprofessional like that. That's why I thought less of Floyd when he did it. Boxing doesn't need to stoop to that level.

Father of Muze is right, it is a hybrid sport. The fighters are good at allot of things, but not great at any one aspect. I seem to always hear, boxers wouldn't stand a chance in the octagon, they are one-dimensional. But no one brings up the fact if a MMA guy gets in a boxing ring he gets trounced by guys like Leonard Dorin or Kevin McBride.:nono: let alone great boxers.

[cpa5oh]

RE-watchability? Shit, 9/10's of the boxing on tv and ppv isn't worth watching the first time let alone a second.

[TFK]

you are correct on this sly. mma will never generate the suspense & drama that a truly great boxing fight can. in boxing (i.e chico/castillo) you can have a fighter who's been dropped and severely hurt, get up, beat the count and courageously come back. in mma, once a guy is hurt severely the fight is over...

Spoken like someone who's never watched MMA.

Had you watched Jardine\Alexander on Saturday, you would've seen just that. You obviously never saw Arlovski\Sylvia 2.

It seems the people that hate MMA the most are the ones who truly don't know much about it.

TFK

[TFK]

When you have two wrestlers fight, when they're not of the floor dry-humping, they're gonna be on their feet displaying laughable boxing technique. I'm probably more technically sound as a boxer than Liddell or Rampage, so what would be the point of watching those guys throwing punches if I already know the result of the fight?

This is a common thought among people who don't know anything about MMA. Sure, in a straight up boxing match, the stand up you see in MMA is technically incorrect, but if you used a traditional boxing stance in MMA, you'd get taken down so fast your head would spin.

MMA stand up is not the same as boxing. MMA stand up defends against take downs, kicks, punches, elbows, etc. It's like comparing someone swinging a baseball bat to someone swinging a tennis racket.

I don't care who the boxer is, if he went into an MMA fight thinking he can fight in a traditional boxing stance, he's gonna find himself a beaten man sooner rather then later.

TFK

[cpa5oh]

Spoken like someone who's never watched MMA.

Had you watched Jardine\Alexander on Saturday, you would've seen just that. You obviously never saw Arlovski\Sylvia 2.

It seems the people that hate MMA the most are the ones who truly don't know much about it.

TFK

Nor did he see Hughes vs. Trigg II, Tyson Griffin's last fight, Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin...there is infinitely more drama in MMA events than there is in boxing events.

[MassaCure]

Those people bug me because I think they are wrong, but that is not the point he was trying to make. It's not necessarily contradictory to be a fan of something and say it is going to die and/or is dying. It is contradictory to say you are a fan of something and then say you hope it dies which was his point.

yeah but when rogan was saying it he was rubbing it in

[mikE]

yeah but when rogan was saying it he was rubbing it in

You're right. Rogan was being a shill. I didn't realize you were speaking about him from that interview.

Rogan is a kickass commentator, imo, but he was acting as a mouthpiece in that interview.

[MassaCure]

You're right. Rogan was being a shill. I didn't realize you were speaking about him from that interview.

Rogan is a kickass commentator, imo, but he was acting as a mouthpiece in that interview.

i think so too, by the way is this big mike? or some other mike?

[LOK]

I love MMA.. I just hate when the go on and on about Chucks stand up and how he is "the greatest striker in MMA history" and you watch it and he is like a bar room brawler:lol:

[mikE]

i think so too, by the way is this big mike? or some other mike?

just mikE...since cbs and beebe days

[MassaCure]

just mikE...since cbs and beebe days

i dont think i know u

[valdosta]

I think I am starting to hate MMA fanatics, very annoying.

[Mr Kumbaya]

I think I am starting to hate MMA fanatics, very annoying.
They're no worse than Boxing fanatics....BoxingFanatics are even worse still.

[LOK]

just mikE...since cbs and beebe days

mike, you are a sexy ho

[Tyler Durden]

mike, you are a sexy ho

Let's not scare the newcomers :nono:

[mikE]

Let's not scare the newcomers :nono:

no probs...he's right

[Tyler Durden]

no probs...he's right

Just don't give him your number through PM. He had a stroke and he wonders through here looking for his mom. One night you might find him on your door step :nono:

[Kenny]

You could watch Tito-Vargas, Chico-Castillo 1, Hagler-Hearns...blah blah blah...numerous times.

I've never seen ONE MMA fight that you would want to look at a second time other than just the KO highlight.

Discuss.:cool:

I agree, but to be fair, I can't remember the last boxing worth rewatching.

[Azazel]

I disagree, I feel it,s easier to rewatch an MMA fight when you already know the results than it is to watch a boxing fight when you know the winner. First of all, it's usually end sooners and the blank moment ( when nothing happens ) are easier to spot and FF.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I agree, but to be fair, I can't remember the last boxing worth rewatching.You don't think that Miranda-Pvlik is re-watchable

[*Z*]

You don't think that Miranda-Pvlik is re-watchable

It is very rewatchable.

[bjk111]

I have watched UFC 1-5 about 1000 times over the years.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I have watched UFC 1-5 about 1000 times over the years.You must love the UFC now then. Guys back then were skilless bar brawlers with made up records. Now the fighters are well rounded and actually have skills.

[KaukipRrr]

You don't think that Miranda-Pvlik is re-watchable

I thought it was a bit sloppy, but they had the right idea.

[Erratic]

You could watch Tito-Vargas, Chico-Castillo 1, Hagler-Hearns...blah blah blah...numerous times.

I've never seen ONE MMA fight that you would want to look at a second time other than just the KO highlight.

Discuss.:cool:

That's because you, as well as myself, are bigger boxing fans and find it more pleasing to watch.

Someone who's a bigger fan of MMA will find more rewatchability value in a great MMA fight than a great boxing match like Trinidad-Vargas (which I've probably watched more than any other fight ever).

[slystaff]

That's because you, as well as myself, are bigger boxing fans and find it more pleasing to watch.

Someone who's a bigger fan of MMA will find more rewatchability value in a great MMA fight than a great boxing match like Trinidad-Vargas (which I've probably watched more than any other fight ever).

Not true. Most of my friends are MMA fans...and they Do NOT rewatch fights. They enjoy the event and the result..but they have no desire to watch it again.

This makes sense...because MMA fights are usually alot of posing, grappling and missing until someone gets fucked up! It doesn't tend to have the back and forth theatre that the great boxing fights have.

That much is clear.

Has nothing to do with what sport you prefer...

[LOK]

That's because you, as well as myself, are bigger boxing fans and find it more pleasing to watch.

Someone who's a bigger fan of MMA will find more rewatchability value in a great MMA fight than a great boxing match like Trinidad-Vargas (which I've probably watched more than any other fight ever).

I agree here,

I have a friend into MMA who is just as into it as I am boxing..

he tapes everything, re-watches them all many times... get's real hyped before a fight..

[Hanzy]

I agree here,

I have a friend into MMA who is just as into it as I am boxing..

he tapes everything, re-watches them all many times... get's real hyped before a fight..

Could you take him, LOK? Does he have mma skills? Could your boxing skills handle his mma skills?:clap:

[LOK]

Could you take him, LOK? Does he have mma skills? Could your boxing skills handle his mma skills?:clap:

we have talked about it..

he has a very solid Ju-jitsu game.. but no boxing skills..

I have a little ground skills but overall yes, I'd dominate

[slystaff]

Could you take him, LOK? Does he have mma skills? Could your boxing skills handle his mma skills?:clap:

I could take LOK. His Andre Agassi looking ass can only handle watermelons!!

[Hanzy]

we have talked about it..

he has a very solid Ju-jitsu game.. but no boxing skills..

I have a little ground skills but overall yes, I'd dominate

Are you good at defending takedowns LOK? What if he gets you in a full mount? How would you escape? Can you deliver a deadly knockout punch off your back LOK?

[Ugotabe Kidding]

Could you take him, LOK? Does he have mma skills? Could your boxing skills handle his mma skills?:clap:

On other words, can he hindu-pushup

[slystaff]

Are you good at defending takedowns LOK? What if he gets you in a full mount? How would you escape? Can you deliver a deadly knockout punch off your back LOK?

LOK is your hero, isn't he Hanz?

It must be difficult for you since Sikhs are not known for their muscle mass, athleticism, or sporting endeavour...so you have to look to other races for your sporting idols...:tease:

[Hanzy]

LOK is your hero, isn't he Hanz?

It must be difficult for you since Sikhs are not known for their muscle mass, athleticism, or sporting endeavour...so you have to look to other races for your sporting idols...:tease:

Correct. We've had a few athletes and bodybuilders here and there but Sikhs, as a whole, prefer farming as opposed to athletics.

[TFK]

Not true. Most of my friends are MMA fans...and they Do NOT rewatch fights. They enjoy the event and the result..but they have no desire to watch it again.

This makes sense...because MMA fights are usually alot of posing, grappling and missing until someone gets fucked up! It doesn't tend to have the back and forth theatre that the great boxing fights have.

That much is clear.

Has nothing to do with what sport you prefer...

I've rewatched plenty of MMA fights.

because MMA fights are usually alot of posing, grappling and missing until someone gets fucked up!

You have no clue.

TFK

[mikE]

Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed that it is easier to watch an mma fight for the first time when I know who wins than watch a boxing match when I know the outcome.

Which contradicts that I am more likely to rewatch a boxing match than an mma fight, but I'd say I can rewatch either if the fight is good enough.

[LOK]

Are you good at defending takedowns LOK? What if he gets you in a full mount? How would you escape? Can you deliver a deadly knockout punch off your back LOK?

I can defend a take down and I can punch at all times.. on your back you dont have your punching power behind it but you can get out and dominate..

I wont be mounted anyway.. I'm not down like that