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Explosivo
08-28-2007, 01:28 AM
I just rewatched the Hanshaw fight....and even in the 12th round, Jones was still sick fast and seemed to have fine stamina.

He did lay on the ropes waaay too much, and does catch more shots now than he used to.

Hanshaw is a good fighter, and I think that Jones dominated him like few at that weight would.

Trinidad will only stand a chance because of Roy's tendency to lay on the ropes and get hit.

But he will make Trinidad look like he is moving in slow motion.......no matter if Tito lands the big shot or not.

This fight will be a mismatch.

Haymaker
08-28-2007, 01:31 AM
I just rewatched the Hanshaw fight....and even in the 12th round, Jones was still sick fast and seemed to have fine stamina.

He did lay on the ropes waaay too much, and does catch more shots now than he used to.

Hanshaw is a good fighter, and I think that Jones dominated him like few at that weight would.

Trinidad will only stand a chance because of Roy's tendency to lay on the ropes and get hit.

But he will make Trinidad look like he is moving in slow motion.......no matter if Tito lands the big shot or not.

This fight will be a mismatch.

Don't be surprised if the Tito - Jones fight goes down almost exactly as his fight with Hanshaw

Xplosive
08-28-2007, 01:51 AM
Enough left to beat Tito like a hebrew slave. But not enough left to beat a guy like Dawson, Calzaghe, Johnson, or Kessler.

LOK
08-28-2007, 01:53 AM
no doubt it's a mismatch..

it's actually a better fight now that it would have been a while back.

Roy is just 1000 times faster than Tito and is bigger, he will be the one to KO Tito not the other way around

dsimon3387
08-28-2007, 01:56 AM
no doubt it's a mismatch..

it's actually a better fight now that it would have been a while back.

Roy is just 1000 times faster than Tito and is bigger, he will be the one to KO Tito not the other way around

dsimon writes:

Yeah I can't imagine Tito ever touching Roy up. Roy might well give Tito the works, it would not suprise me at all.

Breeze
08-28-2007, 02:00 AM
I agree that its a mismatch. I just don't see one advantage Trinidad has, especially since he's moving up in weight.

Haymaker
08-28-2007, 02:59 AM
I agree that its a mismatch. I just don't see one advantage Trinidad has, especially since he's moving up in weight.

He's actually moving DOWN in weight :lol:

lb 4 lb
08-28-2007, 11:13 AM
I saw highlights of the Hanshaw fight and was pretty surprised at how well

Roy looked. I don't give Tito a shot in hell. Roy could destroy him in 1 rd if he

really put forth the effort. I can't get over how horrible Tito looked against

Wright. People like to make it seem like a style thing, but to me it was more

like Tito just put up no effort.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 11:25 AM
Keep all of these posts. I don't want to hear BS when Tito beats Roy like a tribal drum.

Cupey

Hex-One
08-28-2007, 11:26 AM
I saw highlights of the Hanshaw fight and was pretty surprised at how well

Roy looked. I don't give Tito a shot in hell. Roy could destroy him in 1 rd if he

really put forth the effort. I can't get over how horrible Tito looked against Wright. People like to make it seem like a style thing, but to me it was more

like Tito just put up no effort. Thats the biggest mistake everyone is making here. IF the Tito of old shows up for the fight alot of you will be very surprised on the outcome.

Double L
08-28-2007, 11:27 AM
I just rewatched the Hanshaw fight....and even in the 12th round, Jones was still sick fast and seemed to have fine stamina.

He did lay on the ropes waaay too much, and does catch more shots now than he used to.

Hanshaw is a good fighter, and I think that Jones dominated him like few at that weight would.

Trinidad will only stand a chance because of Roy's tendency to lay on the ropes and get hit.

But he will make Trinidad look like he is moving in slow motion.......no matter if Tito lands the big shot or not.

This fight will be a mismatch.

watch your step. remember. if RJJ's not shot, then it means he wasn't the superhuman wrecking machine that so many claim he was 5-10 years ago. remember. the story here is that by the time he faced tarver he was shot. and that just a few years prior he would've wiped his ass with tarver (and anyone else for that matter).

so we can go ahead and talk about his chances against trinidad and praise him for his display of vintage RJJ against Hanshaw. but don't deviate from the company line - RJJ is shot. and has been ever since the tarver fight.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 11:28 AM
Thats the biggest mistake everyone is making here. IF the Tito of old shows up for the fight alot of you will be very surprised on the outcome.

It won't be Tito of old. It will be an old Tito :lol:

IMDAZED
08-28-2007, 12:18 PM
watch your step. remember. if RJJ's not shot, then it means he wasn't the superhuman wrecking machine that so many claim he was 5-10 years ago. remember. the story here is that by the time he faced tarver he was shot. and that just a few years prior he would've wiped his ass with tarver (and anyone else for that matter).

so we can go ahead and talk about his chances against trinidad and praise him for his display of vintage RJJ against Hanshaw. but don't deviate from the company line - RJJ is shot. and has been ever since the tarver fight.

Double, Double, Double. Your logic is quite flawed.

If RJJ's not shot, then it means he wasn't the superhuman wrecking machine that so many claim he was 5-10 years ago.

For the sake of argument, I'll counter by saying that since Jones WAS a superhuman wrecking machine, his fall from that level left him as just a good fighter, and not shot. He had a lot farther to fall ;)

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 12:20 PM
I think the time off helped Roy get the rest his body needed. He was shot before he left. Now I say he's slipped a lot from his prime, but not shot. Bad legs, still very fast hands.

Cupey

joony
08-28-2007, 12:36 PM
I think the time off helped Roy get the rest his body needed. He was shot before he left. Now I say he's slipped a lot from his prime, but not shot. Bad legs, still very fast hands.

Cupey

fast hands, shitty coordination, diminished reflexes, no legs, no chin, and no power. yea he's not shot. :lol:

Rock on
08-28-2007, 12:37 PM
Enough left to beat Tito like a hebrew slave. But not enough left to beat a guy like Dawson, Calzaghe, Johnson, or Kessler.

:laughing:

CleanYourClock
08-28-2007, 01:39 PM
I think Hanshaw is a bit underrated. He was undefeated and obviously a very tough guy who never stopped trying.
He wanted to batter Jones how Johnson did and tryed his hardest to do so. Jones isn't the Jones of old but perhaps he is not as bad off as some people are making him out to be.

Jones should be rematching Johnson , then Tarver ...

The thing about Jones that makes me not really give a shit is that he stated in that interview that he knew his next fight would be his last and for some reason he thought he should stay light , then the Trinidad opportunity came along.
IMO thats just stupid on his part to think he has resolved everything by fighting Trinidad and the retiring. :rolleyes:

He should attempt to avenge his losses , consolidate the Lt. Heavy division , then retire.

IMDAZED
08-28-2007, 01:43 PM
I think Hanshaw is a bit underrated. He was undefeated and obviously a very tough guy who never stopped trying.
He wanted to batter Jones how Johnson did and tryed his hardest to do so. Jones isn't the Jones of old but perhaps he is not as bad off as some people are making him out to be.

Jones should be rematching Johnson , then Tarver ...

The thing about Jones that makes me not really give a shit is that he stated in that interview that he knew his next fight would be his last and for some reason he thought he should stay light , then the Trinidad opportunity came along.
IMO thats just stupid on his part to think he has resolved everything by fighting Trinidad and the retiring. :rolleyes:

He should attempt to avenge his losses , consolidate the Lt. Heavy division , then retire.

Should he beat Tito (convincgly), Jones will fight again.

Jake
08-28-2007, 01:45 PM
Double, Double, Double. Your logic is quite flawed.

If RJJ's not shot, then it means he wasn't the superhuman wrecking machine that so many claim he was 5-10 years ago.

For the sake of argument, I'll counter by saying that since Jones WAS a superhuman wrecking machine, his fall from that level left him as just a good fighter, and not shot. He had a lot farther to fall ;)
but the problem is that everyone dismissed the tarver trilogy as roy being weight-drained (first fight) and shot (2nd and 3rd fights), as well as the johnson debacle.

of course, Doub takes it to the extreme :lol: ... but I will agree with the theory that you don't go from shot to shades of old self. Once you're shot, you're shot. That's it.

If anything, it just outlines the abuse of the term.

Father of Muzse
08-28-2007, 01:47 PM
but the problem is that everyone dismissed the tarver trilogy as roy being weight-drained (first fight) and shot (2nd and 3rd fights), as well as the johnson debacle.

of course, Doub takes it to the extreme :lol: ... but I will agree with the theory that you don't go from shot to shades of old self. Once you're shot, you're shot. That's it.

If anything, it just outlines the abuse of the term.

And your post proves your point...

I've been saying you're shot for YEARS.

Jake
08-28-2007, 01:50 PM
I think Hanshaw is a bit underrated. He was undefeated and obviously a very tough guy who never stopped trying.
He wanted to batter Jones how Johnson did and tryed his hardest to do so. Jones isn't the Jones of old but perhaps he is not as bad off as some people are making him out to be.

Jones should be rematching Johnson , then Tarver ...

The thing about Jones that makes me not really give a shit is that he stated in that interview that he knew his next fight would be his last and for some reason he thought he should stay light , then the Trinidad opportunity came along.
IMO thats just stupid on his part to think he has resolved everything by fighting Trinidad and the retiring. :rolleyes:

He should attempt to avenge his losses , consolidate the Lt. Heavy division , then retire.Oddly enough, I agree with everything except your first and last sentence :lol:

Hanshaw's not a complete bum or anything, but he's a seriously limited fighter who had an undefeated record. That was Roy's motivation for fighting him. Much like a prospect claiming all he faced on the way up was fighters with winning records. It sounds good - until you find that the guys they beat were shitty clubfighters, or worse opponents for shitty clubfighters. So in that sense, I think Hanshaw is rated just about right. At best, he might one day become a top 10 contender.

I kind of agree with the last sentence, except for the consolidating the LWH division part. I'd be content with his sticking around just long enough to avenge his loss to Johnson - or even attempt it. I don't see him beating any of the present titlists - including Woods, who he still owns scoreboard over.

Jake
08-28-2007, 01:51 PM
And your post proves your point...

I've been saying you're shot for YEARS.
and I've never since claimed to be unshot. :lol:

CleanYourClock
08-28-2007, 01:51 PM
but the problem is that everyone dismissed the tarver trilogy as roy being weight-drained (first fight) and shot (2nd and 3rd fights), as well as the johnson debacle.

of course, Doub takes it to the extreme :lol: ... but I will agree with the theory that you don't go from shot to shades of old self. Once you're shot, you're shot. That's it.

If anything, it just outlines the abuse of the term.

I think Jones hit more of a mental stumbling block then he was actually shot in the above mentioned fights.

I do believe he might of had some weight issues in the first Tarver fight.
The second Tarver fight , he looked fine and then got caught.

Before & After in the Johnson and 3rd Tarver fight , I think he had mental issues with himself more so then being physically shot.
Who knows if he has overcome them.
I think he may have partially overcome them but , after those 3 losses - 2 by KO , there will always be something in his mind and he will never be the same even if he was still young and fresh.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 01:52 PM
Oddly enough, I agree with everything except your first and last sentence :lol:

Hanshaw's not a complete bum or anything, but he's a seriously limited fighter who had an undefeated record. That was Roy's motivation for fighting him. Much like a prospect claiming all he faced on the way up was fighters with winning records. It sounds good - until you find that the guys they beat were shitty clubfighters, or worse opponents for shitty clubfighters. So in that sense, I think Hanshaw is rated just about right. At best, he might one day become a top 10 contender.

I kind of agree with the last sentence, except for the consolidating the LWH division part. I'd be content with his sticking around just long enough to avenge his loss to Johnson - or even attempt it. I don't see him beating any of the present titlists - including Woods, who he still owns scoreboard over.

In other words, Hanshaw is your typical Roy Jones opponent.

http://www.sallys-place.com/food/columns/lydecker/tomato_lydecker.jpg

CleanYourClock
08-28-2007, 01:56 PM
In other words, Hanshaw is your typical Roy Jones opponent.

http://www.sallys-place.com/food/columns/lydecker/tomato_lydecker.jpg

I'm not sticking up for Hanshaw or anything but , I bet Hanshaw Vs Johnson would be a good fight.

jarhead
08-28-2007, 02:15 PM
Oddly enough, I agree with everything except your first and last sentence :lol:

Hanshaw's not a complete bum or anything, but he's a seriously limited fighter who had an undefeated record. That was Roy's motivation for fighting him. Much like a prospect claiming all he faced on the way up was fighters with winning records. It sounds good - until you find that the guys they beat were shitty clubfighters, or worse opponents for shitty clubfighters. So in that sense, I think Hanshaw is rated just about right. At best, he might one day become a top 10 contender.

I kind of agree with the last sentence, except for the consolidating the LWH division part. I'd be content with his sticking around just long enough to avenge his loss to Johnson - or even attempt it. I don't see him beating any of the present titlists - including Woods, who he still owns scoreboard over.

Jones should be fighting Johnson. Its simple. But I think Roy has lost his confidence and is fighting guys that he sure he can beat.

Do you really think Woods would beat Roy now, Jake? :eeeek: I always thought if there was a title Roy should go after it would be Woods' title.

Jake
08-28-2007, 02:27 PM
I think Jones hit more of a mental stumbling block then he was actually shot in the above mentioned fights.

I do believe he might of had some weight issues in the first Tarver fight.
The second Tarver fight , he looked fine and then got caught.

Before & After in the Johnson and 3rd Tarver fight , I think he had mental issues with himself more so then being physically shot.
Who knows if he has overcome them.
I think he may have partially overcome them but , after those 3 losses - 2 by KO , there will always be something in his mind and he will never be the same even if he was still young and fresh.
I don't disagree with you at all. I don't think Roy is shot. No, he's clearly not the fighter he once was, but not quite shot, either.

The Johnson fight, Muzse and I have always contended that Roy took it too soon after being knocked out by Tarver, just for the sake of accomodating HBO's schedule. I'm not saying Roy would've beat him with, say another month or two to train, but rarely does any major fighter come back that soon after a knockout these days. Especially Roy, who spent the better part of the decade spacing out his fights every 5-6 months - and those for fights where he won, with a lot of room to spare.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 02:33 PM
The Johnson fight was a bad choice for Roy. Wrong style for a guy who was shot. But people need to give Roy credit for taking that chance.

C

IMDAZED
08-28-2007, 02:36 PM
but the problem is that everyone dismissed the tarver trilogy as roy being weight-drained (first fight) and shot (2nd and 3rd fights), as well as the johnson debacle.

of course, Doub takes it to the extreme :lol: ... but I will agree with the theory that you don't go from shot to shades of old self. Once you're shot, you're shot. That's it.

If anything, it just outlines the abuse of the term.

I think a motivated Tarver always troubles him, in 1998 or 2003. Just my thoughts. Johnson...not so much. I thought Jones was slipping as far back as 2001, when Derrick Harmon landed 59% of his power shots against him. Truth be told, he looked pretty crappy against Eric Harding a few months before that.

Sure he looked great against Julio Gonzalez some months later but that guy was as slow as a walrus. In fact, I think Jones' great victory over Ruiz masked how far he REALLY slipped. He looked incredibly slower and easier to hit against Johnny Boy. Only difference was, Ruiz was a slow HEAVYweight - making Jones look super fast, once again. Jones fall from grace wasn't a crash landing, it was a gradual descent. It just came to light in that one fight against Tarver.

Jake - watching the Hanshaw bout, the question is though...is he SHOT? He looked ok but something is terribly off. I have the sneaky suspicion that Roy spent more time ont he ropes not just because he can't use his legs anymore, but because his reflexes won't allow him to slip out the way of punches in the middle of the ring. In short, Roy Jones Jr. can get KTFO at any point in time by anybody at this point. He's also capable of pulling off the upset too IMO.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 02:41 PM
I think a motivated Tarver always troubles him, in 1998 or 2003. Just my thoughts. Johnson...not so much. I thought Jones was slipping as far back as 2001, when Derrick Harmon landed 59% of his power shots against him. Truth be told, he looked pretty crappy against Eric Harding a few months before that.

Sure he looked great against Julio Gonzalez some months later but that guy was as slow as a walrus. In fact, I think Jones' great victory over Ruiz masked how far he REALLY slipped. He looked incredibly slower and easier to hit against Johnny Boy. Only difference was, Ruiz was a slow HEAVYweight - making Jones look super fast, once again. Jones fall from grace wasn't a crash landing, it was a gradual descent. It just came to light in that one fight against Tarver.

Jake - watching the Hanshaw bout, the question is though...is he SHOT? He looked ok but something is terribly off. I have the sneaky suspicion that Roy spent more time ont he ropes not just because he can't use his legs anymore, but because his reflexes won't allow him to slip out the way of punches in the middle of the ring. In short, Roy Jones Jr. can get KTFO at any point in time by anybody at this point. He's also capable of pulling off the upset too IMO.

Here is the recipe for Tito to beat Roy

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IMDAZED
08-28-2007, 02:45 PM
Here is the recipe for Tito to beat Roy

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I repeat: You had BETTER be at the fight on Jan. 26th. And don't give me that "I was looking for Tito's mouthpiece underneath the canvas" excuse when I have problems finding you afterwards.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 02:46 PM
I repeat: You had BETTER be at the fight on Jan. 26th. And don't give me that "I was looking for Tito's mouthpiece underneath the canvas" excuse when I have problems finding you afterwards.

Of course I'll be there. Who's going to drive you, Jake, Reed, and Xplosive to visit Roy in the hospital.

I can't wait to see the expression on your face when Roy checks out :lol:

C

jaws1216
08-28-2007, 02:46 PM
I think a motivated Tarver always troubles him, in 1998 or 2003. Just my thoughts. Johnson...not so much. I thought Jones was slipping as far back as 2001, when Derrick Harmon landed 59% of his power shots against him. Truth be told, he looked pretty crappy against Eric Harding a few months before that.

Sure he looked great against Julio Gonzalez some months later but that guy was as slow as a walrus. In fact, I think Jones' great victory over Ruiz masked how far he REALLY slipped. He looked incredibly slower and easier to hit against Johnny Boy. Only difference was, Ruiz was a slow HEAVYweight - making Jones look super fast, once again. Jones fall from grace wasn't a crash landing, it was a gradual descent. It just came to light in that one fight against Tarver.

Jake - watching the Hanshaw bout, the question is though...is he SHOT? He looked ok but something is terribly off. I have the sneaky suspicion that Roy spent more time ont he ropes not just because he can't use his legs anymore, but because his reflexes won't allow him to slip out the way of punches in the middle of the ring. In short, Roy Jones Jr. can get KTFO at any point in time by anybody at this point. He's also capable of pulling off the upset too IMO.

I'm gonna take this opportunity not only to agree with you, but to point out something my brother posted on Planet Roy before the first Tarver fight, and got crucified for...

"My official prediction, Tarver TKO 2."

As horrible to watch as Tarver is, he's got the right tools to give Roy problems, whenever they should fight.

I really Hope Roy tries to rematch Johnson, so he can get beaten into submission again

REEDsART
08-28-2007, 02:49 PM
MORE than Enough to Beat Tito Rather EASILY...


REED:cool:

IMDAZED
08-28-2007, 02:52 PM
I'm gonna take this opportunity not only to agree with you, but to point out something my brother posted on Planet Roy before the first Tarver fight, and got crucified for...

"My official prediction, Tarver TKO 2."

As horrible to watch as Tarver is, he's got the right tools to give Roy problems, whenever they should fight.

I really Hope Roy tries to rematch Johnson, so he can get beaten into submission again

You may not believe me, but I picked Tarver to beat Jones the first time too. In fact, I was pretty impressed by Roy in that bout. I never expected himt o dig deep like that. But I knew he was gonna get his ass handed to him in the rematch. In fact, it took me months to watch the second bout - I couldn't watch it live.

It's funny watching Roy now. As big a fan as I was, I really have begun appreciating what he did for how long he did it. Truly amazing.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 03:08 PM
You may not believe me, but I picked Tarver to beat Jones the first time too. In fact, I was pretty impressed by Roy in that bout. I never expected himt o dig deep like that. But I knew he was gonna get his ass handed to him in the rematch. In fact, it took me months to watch the second bout - I couldn't watch it live.

It's funny watching Roy now. As big a fan as I was, I really have begun appreciating what he did for how long he did it. Truly amazing.

Yeah, hanging around in the weakest division fighting police officers and school teachers for as long as he did was quite astonishing.

IMDAZED
08-28-2007, 03:10 PM
Yeah, hanging around in the weakest division fighting police officers and school teachers for as long as he did was quite astonishing.

The schtick is getting tired, CUPEY. Who has Tito beaten since he left 154? Part-time car washer William Joppy? Or full-time pinata Ricardo Mayorga?

REEDsART
08-28-2007, 03:14 PM
The schtick is getting tired, CUPEY. Who has Tito beaten since he left 154? Part-time car washer William Joppy? Or full-time pinata Ricardo Mayorga?The "Schtick" was TIRED 5 Years Ago,but Point TAKEN...


REED:rolleyes:

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 03:19 PM
The schtick is getting tired, CUPEY. Who has Tito beaten since he left 154? Part-time car washer William Joppy? Or full-time pinata Ricardo Mayorga?

Truth always hurts son.

Tito beat the former WBC light middleweight title, WBC and WBA Welterweight Champion, the Former WBC Middleweight Champion, and the former EBU middleweight Champion.

What can you say about Roy after being KO'd twice? Not much right. :rolleyes:

IMDAZED
08-28-2007, 03:21 PM
Truth always hurts son.

Tito beat the former WBC light middleweight title, WBC and WBA Welterweight Champion, the Former WBC Middleweight Champion, and the former EBU middleweight Champion also known as the Punching Pinata.

Fixed.

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 03:24 PM
Fixed.

thanks :lol::lol:

jarhead
08-28-2007, 03:30 PM
Truth always hurts son.

Tito beat the former WBC light middleweight title, WBC and WBA Welterweight Champion, the Former WBC Middleweight Champion, and the former EBU middleweight Champion.

What can you say about Roy after being KO'd twice? Not much right. :rolleyes:

Don't have time to do the whole boxrec thing:lol: but weren't the wins you just posted for tito before he got KTFO by Hop and manhandled/dominated by Wright?

cupey alto
08-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Don't have time to do the whole boxrec thing:lol: but weren't the wins you just posted for tito before he got KTFO by Hop and manhandled/dominated by Wright?

correct. Now follow the thread an you will see I'm replying to IMDAZED's question about who Tito beat after leaving 154lbs.

Any more questions? No? Bye bye

Erratic
08-28-2007, 05:13 PM
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Here's the recipe for Roy to beat Tito.

Straight right hand. Move to the side. Straight right hand. Move to the side.

Repeat x 300

Erratic
08-28-2007, 05:13 PM
Enough left to beat Tito like a hebrew slave. But not enough left to beat a guy like Dawson, Calzaghe, Johnson, or Kessler.

Agreed.

Hex-One
08-28-2007, 05:15 PM
Here's the recipe for Roy to beat Tito.

Straight right hand. Move to the side. Straight right hand. Move to the side.

Repeat x 300:lol:

Breeze
08-28-2007, 06:01 PM
He's actually moving DOWN in weight :lol:

:lol:

Pascals Wager
08-28-2007, 07:40 PM
I just rewatched the Hanshaw fight....and even in the 12th round, Jones was still sick fast and seemed to have fine stamina.

He did lay on the ropes waaay too much, and does catch more shots now than he used to.

Hanshaw is a good fighter, and I think that Jones dominated him like few at that weight would.

Trinidad will only stand a chance because of Roy's tendency to lay on the ropes and get hit.

But he will make Trinidad look like he is moving in slow motion.......no matter if Tito lands the big shot or not.

This fight will be a mismatch.


RJJ has a lot more left than people think.
Tito is toast.

jarhead
08-28-2007, 08:04 PM
RJJ has a lot more left than people think.
Tito is toast.

I agree, but for different reasons. Roy doesn't have much left to continue fighting legit LTHW's. But a blown up retired welterweight is a good fight for him at this stage. Roy puts a beating on Tito, not because Roy has so much left, but because Tito is in the same boat.

Jake
08-28-2007, 08:25 PM
I repeat: You had BETTER be at the fight on Jan. 26th. And don't give me that "I was looking for Tito's mouthpiece underneath the canvas" excuse when I have problems finding you afterwards.
supposedly they're bumping up the date to January 19.