View Full Version : Who "might" be avoiding whom due to stylistic issues...
Double L
11-30-2007, 10:43 AM
For example, P. Williams is clearly the last man PBF would want to fight.
Likewise, RJJ would want to steer clear of Kessler.
Almost everyone at 122, you'd have to imagine, would prefer not to fight Caballero.
Der Tiger
11-30-2007, 11:09 AM
All your favorites are avoiding mine, due to stylistic issues.
How many ways can the same thread be rephrased?
Your point on caballero is well-taken however, too awkward for too little money
slystaff
11-30-2007, 11:13 AM
For example, P. Williams is clearly the last man PBF would want to fight.
Likewise, RJJ would want to steer clear of Kessler.
Almost everyone at 122, you'd have to imagine, would prefer not to fight Caballero.Agreed and no shame in that. Who would want to fight a lanky, volume punching southpaw with a dependable chin? :lol:
Father of Muzse
11-30-2007, 11:45 AM
For example, P. Williams is clearly the last man PBF would want to fight.
Likewise, RJJ would want to steer clear of Kessler.
Almost everyone at 122, you'd have to imagine, would prefer not to fight Caballero.
Roy Jones is almost 39 years old. If he were the same age as Kessler, Kessler would be a sparring partner.
Did you SEE Caballero's last fight? Why would anyone want to fight that guy? Goes to show how piss poor fundamentally Pounced On De Leon is to lose to a guy like that.
slystaff
11-30-2007, 12:12 PM
Roy Jones is almost 39 years old. If he were the same age as Kessler, Kessler would be a sparring partner.
Did you SEE Caballero's last fight? Why would anyone want to fight that guy? Goes to show how piss poor fundamentally Pounced On De Leon is to lose to a guy like that.FACT, not fiction!:bears:
royyjonesjrp4pno1
11-30-2007, 12:26 PM
Roy Jones is almost 39 years old. If he were the same age as Kessler, Kessler would be a sparring partner.
Did you SEE Caballero's last fight? Why would anyone want to fight that guy? Goes to show how piss poor fundamentally Pounced On De Leon is to lose to a guy like that.:lol: If Roy looks good beating Tito then Roy even has a shot at beating Kessler now.
I agree.. Kessler is not that good.. I mean not on Roy's level at ALL!!
:lol: If Roy looks good beating Tito then Roy even has a shot at beating Kessler now.
Floyd should prolly stay away from P Williams.... IMO
Double L
11-30-2007, 12:29 PM
some of you guys are dumb. Kessler's jab and straight right hand, and solid fundamentals, not to mention his counter-punching abilities, and quick on the trigger right hands are a night-mare for an improv guy like RJJ.
so fk all y'all. even a prime RJJ would have a lot of trouble with Kessler. RJJ was never the type like Sloppy to take the risks that Sloppy needed to take to win that fight.
Der Tiger
11-30-2007, 12:38 PM
Kessler would never have been a "sparring partner" for RJ
slystaff
11-30-2007, 12:51 PM
some of you guys are dumb. Kessler's jab and straight right hand, and solid fundamentals, not to mention his counter-punching abilities, and quick on the trigger right hands are a night-mare for an improv guy like RJJ.
so fk all y'all. even a prime RJJ would have a lot of trouble with Kessler. RJJ was never the type like Sloppy to take the risks that Sloppy needed to take to win that fight.As already mentioned, Kessler would have been a sparring partner. An easy night's work for RJJ. I'm guessing you've never seen a Prime RJJ fight? :dunno:
slystaff
11-30-2007, 12:53 PM
I can hear Jim Lampley now (re...Prime Jones vs Kessler)
"Too much speed, too much power also!!"
slystaff
11-30-2007, 12:54 PM
Kessler would never have been a "sparring partner" for RJKessler wouldn't have even beaten a 168lb James Toney let alone have a prayer against Mr Jones! :nono:
slystaff
11-30-2007, 12:55 PM
Floyd should prolly stay away from P Williams.... IMOYeah...I agree. No need to fight that guy!:lol:
In fact no one should fight Williams! :lol:
yeah.. everyone should stay away from Williams
Yeah...I agree. No need to fight that guy!:lol:
In fact no one should fight Williams! :lol:
royyjonesjrp4pno1
11-30-2007, 12:59 PM
Seriously i don't see how Kessler has a style that would give Roy any kind of problems. This is another rediculous thread from a guy who hates Roy Jones.
Kessler is a poor man's pavlik.
Roy in his prime would toy with and destroy Kessler
right now... ? Not sure..
even after Roy destroys Tito.. (And he WILL destroy Tito)
I dont think he should fight high energy guys cuz he's kinda getting slower and olders..
Tito will plod around and Roy will have his way with him though
Seriously i don't see how Kessler has a style that would give Roy any kind of problems. This is another rediculous thread from a guy who hates Roy Jones.
bigdawg
11-30-2007, 01:04 PM
some of you guys are dumb. Kessler's jab and straight right hand, and solid fundamentals, not to mention his counter-punching abilities, and quick on the trigger right hands are a night-mare for an improv guy like RJJ.
so fk all y'all. even a prime RJJ would have a lot of trouble with Kessler. RJJ was never the type like Sloppy to take the risks that Sloppy needed to take to win that fight.
And this is coming from the same dude that claimed that Julio Gonzalez would give Roy Jones trouble. I'll Holla 5000
Hex-One
11-30-2007, 01:04 PM
Roy Jones is almost 39 years old. If he were the same age as Kessler, Kessler would be a sparring partner.
Did you SEE Caballero's last fight? Why would anyone want to fight that guy? Goes to show how piss poor fundamentally Pounced On De Leon is to lose to a guy like that.:lol: :lol: :bears:
he did!
I think he gave Roy a sore hand from beating him so bad
And this is coming from the same dude that claimed that Julio Gonzalez would give Roy Jones trouble. I'll Holla 5000
bigdawg
11-30-2007, 01:07 PM
he did!
I think he gave Roy a sore hand from beating him so bad
Yes sir. He swore up and down about how Julio was Roy's worst nightmare stylistically. That couldn't have been farther from the truth.
And I agree why are so many people annointing Kessler. He fought an older slower Calzaghe and couldn't do shit with his hand speed. How would he have handled the great speed of Roy. I'll Holla 5000
slystaff
11-30-2007, 01:08 PM
Yes sir. He swore up and down about how Julio was Roy's worst nightmare stylistically. That couldn't have been farther from the truth.
And I agree why are so many people annointing Kessler. He fought an older slower Calzaghe and couldn't do shit with his hand speed. How would he have handled the great speed of Roy. I'll Holla 5000FACT, not fiction!:bears:
Hex-One
11-30-2007, 01:10 PM
PBF/Cotto
Just refer back to PBF/Castillo I. It's obvious he wants no part of Cotto and never will. I cant blame him. He's simply trying to preserve his record.
slystaff
11-30-2007, 01:12 PM
PBF/Cotto
Just refer back to PBF/Castillo I. It's obvious he wants no part of Cotto and never will. I cant blame him. He's simply trying to preserve his record.bwaaaahahahahaha!!
Cotto - Corley
:tease:
Mitchell Kane
11-30-2007, 01:15 PM
bwaaaahahahahaha!!
Cotto - Corley
:tease:
Good point, becasue Corley never reached Mayweather's chin. :rolleyes:
slystaff
11-30-2007, 01:19 PM
Good point, becasue Corley never reached Mayweather's chin. :rolleyes:Yo! Mayweather dominated Corley and was only shaken for an INSTANT before firing stright back and having Corley on the defensive and hurt. Cotto was in ALL SORTS OF TROUBLE!
Are you telling me that you can't see the difference?
jarhead
11-30-2007, 01:26 PM
Floyd will stay away from Williams, but if williams was smart he would get Cintron's belt and yell into every mic that he is the real WW champ. Go to every Floyd press conference, pretty much what Tarver did to get the fight with Roy. I don't like Tarver, but he embarassed Roy at the post fight after Ruiz. Williams needs to do the same to Floyd. Floyd is an ego-maniac. Being called a punk in front of his camp and cameras will get him in the ring.
Xplosive
11-30-2007, 01:43 PM
For example, P. Williams is clearly the last man PBF would want to fight.
Likewise, RJJ would want to steer clear of Kessler.
Almost everyone at 122, you'd have to imagine, would prefer not to fight Caballero.
Kessler isnt a style problem for Jones. He'd kick Roy's ass only because Roy is a shell of his past self. I like Kessler, but a prime Jones would fuck him up badly! Hell, a prime Toney would fuck Kessler up.
Father of Muzse
11-30-2007, 01:44 PM
Kessler would never have been a "sparring partner" for RJ
You're probably right. he wouldn't have travelled to Pensacola to take daily ass kickings.
Xplosive
11-30-2007, 01:46 PM
some of you guys are dumb. Kessler's jab and straight right hand, and solid fundamentals, not to mention his counter-punching abilities, and quick on the trigger right hands are a night-mare for an improv guy like RJJ.
so fk all y'all. even a prime RJJ would have a lot of trouble with Kessler. RJJ was never the type like Sloppy to take the risks that Sloppy needed to take to win that fight.
Kessler had trouble with Mundine for Christ sake! Calling Mundine a homeless man's RJ is an understatement. A prime Roy would wipe his ass with Mikkel. Shit I dont even think it would take a PRIME Roy. The pre-Ruiz Jones would whup Kessler's ass.
meetthefeebles
11-30-2007, 05:52 PM
IMO Kessler would hand RJJ a hefty beating if they fought tomorrow.
HOWEVER...at his 168 prime, before his big pal McClellan got crippled and he lost a bit of his killer edge, RJJ beats Kessler handily enough inside no more than 6 or 7 rounds.
To say that Kessler would have been a 'sparring partner' for RJJ, even a prime Roy, is somewhat far-fetched, though! :lol:
MTF
Erratic
11-30-2007, 06:10 PM
IMO Kessler would hand RJJ a hefty beating if they fought tomorrow.
HOWEVER...at his 168 prime, before his big pal McClellan got crippled and he lost a bit of his killer edge, RJJ beats Kessler handily enough inside no more than 6 or 7 rounds.
To say that Kessler would have been a 'sparring partner' for RJJ, even a prime Roy, is somewhat far-fetched, though! :lol:
MTF
Agreed with most, although I think Kessler might last longer, and I'm not really sure if Roy lost his killer instinct with the RJ alter-ego after the Benn-McClellan tragedy.
His first three fights after the tragedy were against Antoine Byrd, Vinny Pazienza and Tony Thornton, and he didn't look passive at all there. Then the next year, he fought Merqui Sosa, Eric Lucas, and Bryant Brannon. Barring the Lucas fight, he was pretty offensive, let his hands go, and wasn't passive in those fights either.
meetthefeebles
11-30-2007, 06:28 PM
Agreed with most, although I think Kessler might last longer, and I'm not really sure if Roy lost his killer instinct with the RJ alter-ego after the Benn-McClellan tragedy.
His first three fights after the tragedy were against Antoine Byrd, Vinny Pazienza and Tony Thornton, and he didn't look passive at all there. Then the next year, he fought Merqui Sosa, Eric Lucas, and Bryant Brannon. Barring the Lucas fight, he was pretty offensive, let his hands go, and wasn't passive in those fights either.
I remember thinking the same watching those fights you listed, but I read somewhere (and I will try and find it) where RJJ himself said that, after McClellan, he just couldn't let his power go 100% as he had in the past. I recall him saying that he would carry guys for 12, simply because he knew he could do so and win easily, rather than risk f*cking them up.
Not sure how true or otherwise this was- but I distinctly remember reading this and it sort of made sense as I read it...
Double L
11-30-2007, 06:41 PM
I remember thinking the same watching those fights you listed, but I read somewhere (and I will try and find it) where RJJ himself said that, after McClellan, he just couldn't let his power go 100% as he had in the past. I recall him saying that he would carry guys for 12, simply because he knew he could do so and win easily, rather than risk f*cking them up.
Not sure how true or otherwise this was- but I distinctly remember reading this and it sort of made sense as I read it...
RJJ will lie right through his teeth about anything to make him seem better than he is - that's the thing to know about him. The bottom line is, I'm sure he feels terrible for McClellan but he's still a pro athlete who's willing to do anything he can to win, and to make any excuse he can when he doesn't.
slystaff
11-30-2007, 06:42 PM
RJJ will lie right through his teeth about anything to make him seem better than he is - that's the thing to know about him. The bottom line is, I'm sure he feels terrible for McClellan but he's still a pro athlete who's willing to do anything he can to win, and to make any excuse he can when he doesn't.:lol: Know him personally do you?
meetthefeebles
11-30-2007, 06:50 PM
RJJ will lie right through his teeth about anything to make him seem better than he is - that's the thing to know about him. The bottom line is, I'm sure he feels terrible for McClellan but he's still a pro athlete who's willing to do anything he can to win, and to make any excuse he can when he doesn't.
I don't see any reason for him to have lied- at the time he was talking about, he was winning fights by a street anyway, knocking people out still etc.
I only said he lost a bit of his killer instinct. He was still knocking people out and/or winning with relative ease...
MTF
Double L
11-30-2007, 07:01 PM
:lol: Know him personally do you?
dude, have you or have you not heard him blame sub-par performances on not having been challenged enough? do you know what bull-shit that is? the guy thinks he's great even when he's not. he's full of shit. period. i don't need to know him personally to know that. he thinks and always has that he's much better than he is. that's just him.
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