Why didn't any other country land on the moon?

[I and I]

Just curious.:stir:

Wouldn't the russians who were the most capable in the 60's and 70's have at least attempted it, and want to also be able to claim they landed on the moon, and plant their flag on the moon also?

:popcorn:

[Rabid Kimba]

Because the Ruskies were too drunk on vodka...and America is baddass...that's why.

[Tyler Durden]

Because they got beat.

[D MAN]

Because all other countries are too weak and technologically disadvantaged to compete with US, so fuck off.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Just curious.:stir:

Wouldn't the russians who were the most capable in the 60's and 70's have at least attempted it, and want to also be able to claim they landed on the moon, and plant their flag on the moon also?

:popcorn:'They' did land on the moon.
USSR's Luna space programme flights 16, 20 and 24 achieved unmanned moon landings for return of samples between 1970-76.

[slystaff]

They didn't have Playstation 3, Blu Ray, Plasma Tvs, Advanced computer systems and gadgets in the 60s....yet somehow they managed to land a craft on the moon which is 400,000 miles away and then return and get through the inferno of re-entry wihtout any casualties. Negotiated past the Van Allen belts with consumate ease, didn't see any meteor impacts on the atmosphereless moon when they were up there, didn't freeze to death on the night side or boil to death on the day side...no other country tried to do it and get moon rocks. Quite the feat, America (60s version) is the GREATEST! :bears:

[Nobleart]

Because no other country was willing to spend billions and billions of dollars on what was essentially a vanity project.

[TFK]

Because of the beautiful, but savage Moon people.


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TFK

[LOK]

no one has landed on the moon

[monkeystyle]

It's because of what they found there :nono:

Seriously though, I do remember someone saying we haven't been back because of what was there. I'm pretty sure it was Phil Schneider.

[slystaff]

It's because of what they found there :nono:

Seriously though, I do remember someone saying we haven't been back because of what was there. I'm pretty sure it was Phil Schneider.What did they find there?

[Joe King]

because it was filmed in a basement and yes I'd say it to buzz aldrin's old ass face.

[Nobleart]

because it was filmed in a basement and yes I'd say it to buzz aldrin's old ass face.


Then you'd be an idiot and would deserve to get his ass kicked by Buzz.

[slystaff]

Then you'd be an idiot and would deserve to get his ass kicked by Buzz.:lol:

Landed on the moon! :laughing: In the 60s? :laughing: Considering the radiation, the heat from the sun on a surface not protected by an atmosphere. No meteor bombardment all the time they were there? No stars visible in the shots?

[Hanzy]

Moon landing was staged.

[Hanzy]

Where's that video where Armstrong was getting off the shuttle and about to deliver his "one giant leap" statement when a studio light came crashing down! :lol:
Moon landing was a complete farce. It was filmed in a studio.

[Nobleart]

:lol:

Landed on the moon! :laughing: In the 60s? :laughing: Considering the radiation, the heat from the sun on a surface not protected by an atmosphere. No meteor bombardment all the time they were there? No stars visible in the shots?


You're another idiot then. Figures the two guys who think the Earth and everything on it was created in 7 days, 6 to 20 thousand years ago are the same ones who think we couldn't have used rocket technology (invented around the WW2 era) and physics to get a man to the moon and back.

Jesus was a magic man but the entire NASA team was full of liars and chalatans. GTFOH!!!!

.............and if Octopus comes on here chanting about 8 track tapes I think I'm going to blow my brains out in frustration at how dumb society has become as a whole.

[Nobleart]

Moon landing was staged.


I'm disappointed in you Hanzy. :nono:

[LOK]

there are several facts that have not been disputed about the moon landing.. they simply can not be explained.. when people push for awnsers people liek Buzz have to punch people.. :rolleyes:

[CleanYourClock]

there are several facts that have not been disputed about the moon landing.. they simply can not be explained.. when people push for awnsers people liek Buzz have to punch people.. :rolleyes:

I was under the assuption that EVERYTHING brought fourth by the conspiracy theorist was logically explained already ?

[Nobleart]

there are several facts that have not been disputed about the moon landing.. they simply can not be explained.. when people push for awnsers people liek Buzz have to punch people.. :rolleyes:


Everything the kooks have come up with has been explained ad nauseum. It's not my fault you guys have selective intelligence.

The whole worlds caught Petreitis and we're all going mad.

[Nobleart]

there are several facts that have not been disputed about the moon landing.. they simply can not be explained.. when people push for awnsers people liek Buzz have to punch people.. :rolleyes:


If I had risked my life as often as that guy did and some snot-nosed home-schooled cunt came up to me mouthing off and calling me a fraud, I'd be disappointed in myself if I didn't haul off and pound him also.

[LOK]

bs:shit:

Everything the kooks have come up with has been explained ad nauseum. It's not my fault you guys have selective intelligence.

The whole worlds caught Petreitis and we're all going mad.

[LOK]

it has not..

some like to say "it's been explained" or get mad and punch people

let's see someone here prove it..

I was under the assuption that EVERYTHING brought fourth by the conspiracy theorist was logically explained already ?

[Nobleart]

bs:shit:


Hey LOK, would you have believed it if they rode a big black cock to the moon, instead of a rocket ship?


Wait............don't answer that. :doh:

[Nobleart]

it has not..

some like to say "it's been explained" or get mad and punch people

let's see someone here prove it..


Lets see you prove you didn't go out on a boat and catch a big cock with a fishing pole.

Don't deny it, I've seen the pictures. :nono:

[CleanYourClock]

Everything the kooks have come up with has been explained ad nauseum. It's not my fault you guys have selective intelligence.

The whole worlds caught Petreitis and we're all going mad.

It's funny cause all other coountries that were monitoring our missions at the time never disputed if we made it to the moon or not.
They still don't dispute it ..
The only people who think we never made is a few choice citizens ... :lol:

You would think the Russian goverment would have talked shit if they even had the slightest doubt .. You would have thought they would have picked apart our broadcast if they seen anything out of line.
You know damm well that they studied the shit out of ot as well.

[Azazel]

It's funny cause all other coountries that were monitoring our missions at the time never disputed if we made it to the moon or not.
They still don't dispute it ..
The only people who think we never made is a few choice citizens ... :lol:

You would think the Russian goverment would have talked shit if they even had the slightest doubt .. You would have thought they would have picked apart our broadcast if they seen anything out of line.
You know damm well that they studied the shit out of ot as well.
USSR did called it an hoax

[Nobleart]

It's funny cause all other coountries that were monitoring our missions at the time never disputed if we made it to the moon or not.
They still don't dispute it ..
The only people who think we never made is a few choice citizens ... :lol:

You would think the Russian goverment would have talked shit if they even had the slightest doubt .. You would have thought they would have picked apart our broadcast if they seen anything out of line.
You know damm well that they studied the shit out of ot as well.


They're all in cahoots with us.

Russia gave us those nifty space-suits they used on their fake space-walk and Japan gave NASA the CGI technology to pull off the hoax.

[Nobleart]

USSR did called it an hoax


When was this? 35 years later, after their own space program was bankrupted out of existence?

[D MAN]

Conspiracy theorists are simply atheists at heart suffering from insecurity. They cannot fathom that they themselves are in fact animals living on a planet, unregulated by any higher power. There is nobody watching over their shoulder, nobody to hold their hand, they can die at any time, and history and nature won't care about them and their pathetic unguided lives. So in response they create this imaginative reality in their minds, that the government (a minority group of other people) have a supernatural ability to hold power over their individual lives, and the power to fool the intelligent public, create and perpetrate myths of gigantic proportion, in essence being a God to them. It makes them feel better. :lol:

[CleanYourClock]

Conspiracy theorists are simply atheists at heart suffering from insecurity. They cannot fathom that they themselves are in fact animals living on a planet, unregulated by any higher power. There is nobody watching over their shoulder, nobody to hold their hand, they can die at any time, and history and nature won't care about them and their pathetic unguided lives. So in response they create this imaginative reality in their minds, that the government (a minority group of other people) have a supernatural ability to hold power over their individual lives, and the power to fool the intelligent public, create and perpetrate myths of gigantic proportion, in essence being a God to them. It makes them feel better. :lol:

:lol: :bears: :bears:

[Buddy Rydell]

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

[slystaff]

Oftentimes over history TRUTH has often been labelled as "Conspiracy theory" so that the sheep continue believing what their masters want them to believe....

Fortunately....not all of us blindly accept things without proving it to ourselves after weighing the evidence...

[Nobleart]

Oftentimes over history TRUTH has often been labelled as "Conspiracy theory" so that the sheep continue believing what their masters want them to believe....

Fortunately....not all of us blindly accept things without proving it to ourselves after weighing the evidence...


:lol::lol::lol:

Oh, the irony!

:laughing::laughing:

[Nobleart]

Were all the moon landings faked, or just the first one?

[Buddy Rydell]

Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy website has a lot of interesting information in it. Perhaps it might prove illuminating to open minds.

[LOK]

:lol::lol::lol:

Oh, the irony!

:laughing::laughing:

I was just about to say somthing like this..


:doh: :lol:

[Hanzy]

I'm disappointed in you Hanzy. :nono:

I like conspiracies.:clap:

[Hanzy]

Faking a moon landing is the easiest f*cking thing ever. Go watch Superman II and look how real it all seems when the 3 SuperCriminals are devastating those astronauts on the moon. Great job! :clap: Lights, Camera tricks, special effects.....that's all it takes.:cool:

[LOK]

thank you!

it's funny some think we could go to the moon but we couldn't fake it:lol: the russians knew it was fake

Faking a moon landing is the easiest f*cking thing ever. Go watch Superman II and look how real it all seems when the 3 SuperCriminals are devastating those astronauts on the moon. Great job! :clap: Lights, Camera tricks, special effects.....that's all it takes.:cool:

[Nobleart]

Faking a moon landing is the easiest f*cking thing ever. Go watch Superman II and look how real it all seems when the 3 SuperCriminals are devastating those astronauts on the moon. Great job! :clap: Lights, Camera tricks, special effects.....that's all it takes.:cool:


:lol:

[Cheo Malanga]

my only question is, how do you maneuver a space ship in vacum.

[I and I]

In todays lingo "conspiracy " is just a phrase thrown on beliefs in order to marginalize them.

Conspiracy only means 2 or more people conspiring to do something.

[LOK]

and my question would be what is a "vacum"?:lol:

my only question is, how do you maneuver a space ship in vacum.

[Nobleart]

I was just about to say somthing like this..


:doh: :lol:


Yeah, and he's on your side.

So have you reconsidered yet LOKie baby? :lol:

[Arben]

Faking a moon landing is the easiest f*cking thing ever. Go watch Superman II and look how real it all seems when the 3 SuperCriminals are devastating those astronauts on the moon. Great job! :clap: Lights, Camera tricks, special effects.....that's all it takes.:cool:
:lol:

[LOK]

reconsidered what?

Yeah, and he's on your side.

So have you reconsidered yet LOKie baby? :lol:

[Nobleart]

and my question would be what is a "vacum"?:lol:


:nono:


http://www.bargainbrands.co.uk/images/hoover_vacuum_cleaner_dust_manager.jpg

[Nobleart]

my only question is, how do you maneuver a space ship in vacum.


So you're of the idea that all space exploration is a hoax?

[Nobleart]

reconsidered what?


Heads or Tails?

[Cheo Malanga]

So you're of the idea that all space exploration is a hoax?

at the very least it defies the laws of aerodynamics.

[slystaff]

Landing on the Moon requires far more scientific advances than anything else we see today. So in the era of black and white television you telling me they put a man on the moon?


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[FourHooks]

They didn't have Playstation 3, Blu Ray, Plasma Tvs, Advanced computer systems and gadgets in the 60s....yet somehow they managed to land a craft on the moon which is 400,000 miles away and then return and get through the inferno of re-entry wihtout any casualties. Negotiated past the Van Allen belts with consumate ease, didn't see any meteor impacts on the atmosphereless moon when they were up there, didn't freeze to death on the night side or boil to death on the day side...no other country tried to do it and get moon rocks. Quite the feat, America (60s version) is the GREATEST! :bears:and then they turned water into wine and parted a HUGE body of water, all while saving all of earths animals on a wooden raft

its all makes sense now:bears:

[Nobleart]

In space, no one can hear you think.

[Nobleart]

Landing on the Moon requires far more scientific advances than anything else we see today. So in the era of black and white television you telling me they put a man on the moon?


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


What makes you say that?

I don't understand how satellite television works, but I don't think little people are play-acting inside the box in my livingroom.

[CleanYourClock]

at the very least it defies the laws of aerodynamics.

?? Aerodynamics only come into play within the Atmosphere ..

[slystaff]

The temperature on the moon varies from -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius), at night, to 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius) during the day.

Man those guys in the 60s sure knew how to make those damned spacesuits didn't they? :clap:

[Cheo Malanga]

?? Aerodynamics only come into play within the Atmosphere ..

not only aerodynamics, but many other things. how can you move if there's no friction?

[CleanYourClock]

The temperature on the moon varies from -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius), at night, to 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius) during the day.

Man those guys in the 60s sure knew how to make those damned spacesuits didn't they? :clap:

Even if they did fake it , doesn't your stupid ass understand that they would have also seen this temperature issue and would have a solution ready - even if the solution itself was fake ?

You make no sense ..

[Buddy Rydell]

at the very least it defies the laws of aerodynamics.

There's no air in space. :doh:

[Nobleart]

not only aerodynamics, but many other things. how can you move if there's no friction?


WTF!!!

Do you not believe in meteors, or comets or asteroids either? How about the planets that are zipping through space around the sun?

I mean, it should be against the laws of aerodynamics.

:lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

WTF!!!

Do you not believe in meteors, or comets or asteroids either? How about the planets that are zipping through space around the sun?

I mean, it should be against the laws of aerodynamics.

:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[CleanYourClock]

not only aerodynamics, but many other things. how can you move if there's no friction?

How do comets and asteroids etc move ??

[Nobleart]

The temperature on the moon varies from -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius), at night, to 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius) during the day.

Man those guys in the 60s sure knew how to make those damned spacesuits didn't they? :clap:


Is deep sea diving fake to, because there's some fucked up conditions when it comes to that to?

There's people in this world much smarter then you Sly, that figure shit like this out...............someday, maybe you'll be able to accept this.

[LOK]

what's funny is if you have seen these suits in person (I have) they look ridiculous.. I think tin foil would offer more protection

The temperature on the moon varies from -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius), at night, to 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius) during the day.

Man those guys in the 60s sure knew how to make those damned spacesuits didn't they? :clap:

[Mean Mr Mustard]

How do comets and asteroids etc move ??
http://www.oldsoftware.com/softimg7/atari2.jpg

[CleanYourClock]

what's funny is if you have seen these suits in person (I have) they look ridiculous.. I think tin foil would offer more protection

And this is exactly why you are here on this board talking about Sodomy ..

[LOK]

http://www.oldsoftware.com/softimg7/atari2.jpg

:bears:

[Nobleart]

what's funny is if you have seen these suits in person (I have) they look ridiculous.. I think tin foil would offer more protection


You've outsmarted the NASA folks LOK. Pat yourself on the back.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

:bears:Probably only beaten by the original and best:
http://www.deckerd26354.net/Projects/ArcadeGames/Images/SpaceInvaders.png

[Cheo Malanga]

WTF!!!

Do you not believe in meteors, or comets or asteroids either? How about the planets that are zipping through space around the sun?

I mean, it should be against the laws of aerodynamics.

:lol:

sure, if there is something that sets you in motion, and there's no friction to stop you you'll never stop. i am not saying movement is impossible in space, but change of directions? the ability to navigate?

[Hanzy]

Hey LOK, didn't the 'fightbeat buddy' land on the moon once? :laughing: I'm sure there was a pic somewhere.

[Hanzy]

Wouldn't it be awesome if the entire world blew up? :clap:

[CleanYourClock]

sure, if there is something that sets you in motion, and there's no friction to stop you you'll never stop. i am not saying movement is impossible in space, but change of directions? the ability to navigate?

So then all missions into space , even those not performed by the US were faked ?
All the navigated attachments onto Mere and the new space station are/were faked ?

[Nobleart]

sure, if there is something that sets you in motion, and there's no friction to stop you you'll never stop. i am not saying movement is impossible in space, but change of directions? the ability to navigate?


So the Voyager spacecrafts are fake to...................along the pictures they've sent back from the various planets and moons...................even the ones that turned out spectacularly differant then anyone expected them to be?

Throw in the unmanned lunar and Mars flights other countries besides the U.S. have been involved in for the past decade or more.

The whole idea of space travel is a hoax upon the people of the World in order to give us hope and forget about what a shitty rock we live on already?

[LOK]

dam.. fightbeat buddy never really took off..

he was in DC and never really went anywhere.

I think he did show up on the moon, didn't you do that one? do you have the pic?:lol:

Hey LOK, didn't the 'fightbeat buddy' land on the moon once? :laughing: I'm sure there was a pic somewhere.

[Nobleart]

So then all missions into space , even those not performed by the US were faked ?
All the navigated attachments onto Mere and the new space station are/were faked ?


Actually, we're all asleep in coffin like containers right now. Life as we know it is one giant hologram of lies.

[Hanzy]

dam.. fightbeat buddy never really took off..

he was in DC and never really went anywhere.

I think he did show up on the moon, didn't you do that one? do you have the pic?:lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/kowarrior/fightbeatbuddymoon2.jpg

[D MAN]

Landing on the Moon requires far more scientific advances than anything else we see today. So in the era of black and white television you telling me they put a man on the moon?


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

A black and white television requires as much or more scientific advances than sending a rocket out of the atmosphere.

[Hanzy]

Nobleart, you talk too much. You seem to have a whole lot of knowledge but everything you type is just stuff from articles and books. You haven't been out there and seen anything for yourself.
You haven't been out in space. You don't know sh*t other than what you read in some fool's book.
As for me, I've been out there in a shuttle and I can tell you for sure that we never left the earth.:cool:

[slystaff]

Is deep sea diving fake to, because there's some fucked up conditions when it comes to that to?

There's people in this world much smarter then you Sly, that figure shit like this out...............someday, maybe you'll be able to accept this.:lol:

So are you saying that if you put a man into one of those '60s design spacesuits and immerse him in BOILING water and the rest of the air above the water being STEAM (Excess of 100 degrees c)...he'd be just fine and dandy like Armstrong was and sharing philisophiocal thoughts? :lol:

If that's the case...I'd like to voluntare you for such a test!

[Cheo Malanga]

i'm not saying they are fake. i simply do not know enough to make assertion for or against it. i just like to question shit.

[D MAN]

The temperature on the moon varies from -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius), at night, to 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius) during the day.

Man those guys in the 60s sure knew how to make those damned spacesuits didn't they? :clap:

That is the surface temperature of the moon dust. Their is no significant atmosphere. There are 3 modes of heat transfer; conduction, convection, and radiation. Without atmosphere conduction and convection is eliminated. That leaves the only significant mode of heat transfer on the moon as radiation. They wear white space suits to reflect solar radiation. Body heat is likely sufficient to heat the air inside the suit.

[Nobleart]

A black and white television requires as much or more scientific advances than sending a rocket out of the atmosphere.


Yeah, and that's not even considering the fact.............we did indeed have color television during that time period. :lol:


Apparently however, the astronauts were not able to watch a VHS version of "Throw Mama From The Train", so therefore Jet Propulsion was deemed non-existent at the time. :dunno:

[slystaff]

A black and white television requires as much or more scientific advances than sending a rocket out of the atmosphere.Sending it out of the atmosphere is ONE HUNDRETH of the problem of going to the moon and landing.....

[D MAN]

sure, if there is something that sets you in motion, and there's no friction to stop you you'll never stop. i am not saying movement is impossible in space, but change of directions? the ability to navigate?

Navigation is done with compressed gasses. The release of gas generates an opposing force equal to the momentum of the gas. Think of it like a rock in space, being blown into 2 pieces by a bomb. Will the pieces of the rock not fly apart, simply because there is no significant atmosphere ?

[slystaff]

That is the surface temperature of the moon dust. Their is no significant atmosphere. There are 3 modes of heat transfer; conduction, convection, and radiation. Without atmosphere conduction and convection is eliminated. That leaves the only significant mode of heat transfer on the moon as radiation. They wear white space suits to reflect solar radiation. Body heat is likely sufficient to heat the air inside the suit.:lol:

if that's the case, they should be able to land on the SUNNY surface of MERCURY as long as they have WHITE SPACESUITS!!!!!!!!!!!:bears:

[Nobleart]

Nobleart, you talk too much. You seem to have a whole lot of knowledge but everything you type is just stuff from articles and books. You haven't been out there and seen anything for yourself.
You haven't been out in space. You don't know sh*t other than what you read in some fool's book.
As for me, I've been out there in a shuttle and I can tell you for sure that we never left the earth.:cool:


If only I had your street smarts Hanzy. :bears:

[CleanYourClock]

:lol:

So are you saying that if you put a man into one of those '60s design spacesuits and immerse him in BOILING water and the rest of the air above the water being STEAM (Excess of 100 degrees c)...he'd be just fine and dandy like Armstrong was and sharing philisophiocal thoughts? :lol:

If that's the case...I'd like to voluntare you for such a test!

Sly , isn't there a large area where the temp is somewhat normal ?
You know , the area where the sun can be seen but , its not heating the ground from direct sunlight ??
You know , like dusk here on earth ?

[Hanzy]

You remember when Superman and Nuclear Man duked it out on the moon? That was some badass sh*t right there! :clap:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/358/superman42xo.png

[D MAN]

Sending it out of the atmosphere is ONE HUNDRETH of the problem of going to the moon and landing.....

Your correct. Just like going to the store and buying a black and white television is one hundreth of the process involved in transforming it from the earth elements into an electronic device on your living room table.

Space travel was capable at least 10 years if not more prior to it occuring. The issue was making it safe enough that human loss would be highly unlikely.

[Nobleart]

:lol:

So are you saying that if you put a man into one of those '60s design spacesuits and immerse him in BOILING water and the rest of the air above the water being STEAM (Excess of 100 degrees c)...he'd be just fine and dandy like Armstrong was and sharing philisophiocal thoughts? :lol:

If that's the case...I'd like to voluntare you for such a test!


Goddamn, you're on the internet right fucking now sending messages at the speed of light. You have any idea how complicated that shit is.

Just because you can't bring yourself to comprehend it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You of all people should be on board with this thought process.

[D MAN]

Sly , isn't there a large area where the temp is somewhat normal ?
You know , the area where the sun can be seen but , its not heating the ground from direct sunlight ??
You know , like dusk here on earth ?

CYC this argument is moot. Like I explained, the surface temperature doesn't matter, since heat conduction is impossible without atmosphere. As long as the space suit shoe soles can withstand 130 degrees celsius without melting, it is fine. I think the technology for this exists.

[CleanYourClock]

CYC this argument is moot. Like I explained, the surface temperature doesn't matter, since heat conduction is impossible without atmosphere. As long as the space suit shoe soles can withstand 130 degrees celsius without melting, it is fine. I think the technology for this exists.

:doh: I see what you are saying. The moon itself may heat but , since there is no air or atmosphere , that heat does not transfer up any higher then the ground itself ..

[Nobleart]

Your correct. Just like going to the store and buying a black and white television is one hundreth of the process involved in transforming it from the earth elements into an electronic device on your living room table.

Space travel was capable at least 10 years if not more prior to it occuring. The issue was making it safe enough that human loss would be highly unlikely.


It's also one of the reasons we've slowed our progress into space. It's still very dangerous as evidenced by several tragic accidents along the way..................and we've grown too squeamish to accept the losses.

We can lose hundreds and thousands in war, but we're no longer willing to take chances to explore our boundaries in space.............despite having plenty of willing participants.

[D MAN]

:lol:

if that's the case, they should be able to land on the SUNNY surface of MERCURY as long as they have WHITE SPACESUITS!!!!!!!!!!!:bears:

I agree

Mercury is very difficult to navigate to, because of the strong gravitational pull from the sun.

[60/40]

my only question is, how do you maneuver a space ship in vacum.
How do probes navigate space now?:doh:

[D MAN]

:doh: I see what you are saying. The moon itself may heat but , since there is no air or atmosphere , that heat does not transfer up any higher then the ground itself ..

Exactly. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the space suits were designed to take advantage of the heat from the surface to heat the inside of the suit. Putting a stove heating element on low, and standing on it with well insulated boots would be a rough equivalent to standing on the moon.

[slystaff]

I agree

Mercury is very difficult to navigate to, because of the strong gravitational pull from the sun.I'm not talking about the difficulty in reaching Mercury, I'm talking about the fact that Mercury is very similar to the moon only MUCH hotter during daylight. If having minimal or no atmosphere cuts out two forms of heat...and teh white suits repel the rest...I'm sarcastically saying that men should be able to walk around on the surface of Mercury wearing 60s designed spacesuits.

[slystaff]

Exactly. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the space suits were designed to take advantage of the heat from the surface to heat the inside of the suit. Putting a stove heating element on low, and standing on it with well insulated boots would be a rough equivalent to standing on the moon.Nonsense. How about landing on mercury?

[D MAN]

It's also one of the reasons we've slowed our progress into space. It's still very dangerous as evidenced by several tragic accidents along the way..................and we've grown too squeamish to accept the losses.

We can lose hundreds and thousands in war, but we're no longer willing to take chances to explore our boundaries in space.............despite having plenty of willing participants.

Yep it's very political. Space travel was in addition to advancing scientific and meteorological knowledge used as a political tool especially during the cold war to prove a dominance in military aero-space. Russia and the US both had space programs (the US was called STAR WARS I believe) that involved co-ordination between satellite equipement and nuclear launch stations.

[slystaff]

:doh: I see what you are saying. The moon itself may heat but , since there is no air or atmosphere , that heat does not transfer up any higher then the ground itself ..CYC...please don't believe that nonsense. If that were the case you can bask in the vacuum just around the sun where thereis no air....as long as you have a '60s designed spacesuit!! :lol: Gullible.

[D MAN]

I'm not talking about the difficulty in reaching Mercury, I'm talking about the fact that Mercury is very similar to the moon only MUCH hotter during daylight. If having minimal or no atmosphere cuts out two forms of heat...and teh white suits repel the rest...I'm sarcastically saying that men should be able to walk around on the surface of Mercury wearing 60s designed spacesuits.

Yes, honestly, they probably could.

[TFK]

Buzz Aldrin should do this to all non believers.


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TFK

[Nobleart]

I'm not talking about the difficulty in reaching Mercury, I'm talking about the fact that Mercury is very similar to the moon only MUCH hotter during daylight. If having minimal or no atmosphere cuts out two forms of heat...and teh white suits repel the rest...I'm sarcastically saying that men should be able to walk around on the surface of Mercury wearing 60s designed spacesuits.


Sure Sly. We should be able to walk on the sun to, right? I mean, it's nearly the exact same thing.

[slystaff]

Yes, honestly, they probably could.Oh come on! Don't be silly now. :nono:

[CleanYourClock]

I'm not talking about the difficulty in reaching Mercury, I'm talking about the fact that Mercury is very similar to the moon only MUCH hotter during daylight. If having minimal or no atmosphere cuts out two forms of heat...and teh white suits repel the rest...I'm sarcastically saying that men should be able to walk around on the surface of Mercury wearing 60s designed spacesuits.

That is really a stupid comparison given the fact that Mercury is SO MUCH closer to the sun ...
If you are going to say that , you might as well go the next step and ask why they can't stand on the surface of the sun itself.

[Nobleart]

That is really a stupid comparison given the fact that Mercury is SO MUCH closer to the sun ...
If you are going to say that , you might as well go the next step and ask why they can't stand on the surface of the sun itself.


Fuck, we need to get together and go over our material before we type it out. :lol:

[slystaff]

Sure Sly. We should be able to walk on the sun to, right? I mean, it's nearly the exact same thing.

Big difference between the "surface" of the sun and two planets with a solid atmosphere-less surface.

If The 120 degree heat on Moon is ONLY on the very surface (which is so easy to refute...that I wont right now because it's not a challenge)...then standing on the 350 degree surface of mercury should be ok as long as your have footwear that can stand that temperature. After that you should be good to go! :clap: :lol:

[D MAN]

CYC...please don't believe that nonsense. If that were the case you can bask in the vacuum just around the sun where thereis no air....as long as you have a '60s designed spacesuit!! :lol: Gullible.

Sly, everything is on a sliding scale. Yes, to a certain point a 60's space suit would protect you from the suns radiation. As you get closer, it would begin to get more and more uncomfortable, and at a certain point the non-perfectly reflecting suit would heat up to the point of burning your skin or killing you from overheating. 130 degree moon surface temperature is a long way off from the intense solar radiation recieved basking next to the sun.

[slystaff]

That is really a stupid comparison given the fact that Mercury is SO MUCH closer to the sun ...
If you are going to say that , you might as well go the next step and ask why they can't stand on the surface of the sun itself.It's not stupid. Proximity to the sun is not the issue here that I'm addressing...the issue is whether or not the heat is just on the surface (ground) alone or not. It can't be just on the ground...for how did the object heat up in the first place? Think about that?

[CleanYourClock]

CYC...please don't believe that nonsense. If that were the case you can bask in the vacuum just around the sun where thereis no air....as long as you have a '60s designed spacesuit!! :lol: Gullible.

Not true because the sun is the actual source , not a secondary source that is also be cooled at the same time.
You say no air but , you also aren't aknowledging the other types of gases that are there and are being heated ..

[Nobleart]

Big difference between the "surface" of the sun and two planets with a solid atmosphere-less surface.

If The 120 degree heat on Moon is ONLY on the very surface (which is so easy to refute...that I wont right now because it's not a challenge)...then standing on the 350 degree surface of mercury should be ok as long as your have footwear that can stand that temperature. After that you should be good to go! :clap: :lol:

Slystaff, I don't know enough about Mercury to know if it's going to be the same or not. They designed the suits for the Moon.........not Mercury.

[CleanYourClock]

It's not stupid. Proximity to the sun is not the issue here that I'm addressing...the issue is whether or not the heat is just on the surface (ground) alone or not. It can't be just on the ground...for how did the object heat up in the first place? Think about that?

Proximity is the issue though because the closer you get , I'm sure many factors change and are no-longer relative ..
Also it does change from place to place. The moon has Zero atmosphere.
That is not true for other places ..

[D MAN]

It's not stupid. Proximity to the sun is not the issue here that I'm addressing...the issue is whether or not the heat is just on the surface (ground) alone or not. It can't be just on the ground...for how did the object heat up in the first place? Think about that?

Are you pretending, or do you really not understand ? I don't blame you if you don't .. but you should honestly consider taking some physics courses, they will teach you alot about how things work, and what you learn can be applied to many different situations.

Answer: radiation

[slystaff]

Slystaff, I don't know enough about Mercury to know if it's going to be the same or not. They designed the suits for the Moon.........not Mercury.The point is...it's the heat of the direct rays of the sun which is heating the surface of the moon. Therefore the suits are at the mercy of those same rays and then whoever's inside them. So....can a person be comfortable in those suits and be emersed in boiling hot water with an atmosphere of 100 + degree steam? That's what I'd like to know.

And conversely...would those suits prevent a man from freezing in minus 200 degree temperatures?

I'd like to know what material those space suits are made out of?

Unobtainium? :dunno:

[slystaff]

Are you pretending, or do you really not understand ? I don't blame you if you don't .. but you should honestly consider taking some physics courses, they will teach you alot about how things work, and what you learn can be applied to many different situations.

Answer: radiationI understand radiation....it's the reason why it gets colder the higher in altitude you get....but i don't think YOU understand the point I'm making...

[Nobleart]

Are you pretending, or do you really not understand ? I don't blame you if you don't .. but you should honestly consider taking some physics courses, they will teach you alot about how things work, and what you learn can be applied to many different situations.

Answer: radiation


Slystaff's not much for book readin' or learnin'. All those mysterious "pages" made from trees are tools of the devil.

[CleanYourClock]

The point is...it's the heat of the direct rays of the sun which is heating the surface of the moon. Therefore the suits are at the mercy of those same rays and then whoever's inside them. So....can a person be comfortable in those suits and be emersed in boiling hot water with an atmosphere of 100 + degree steam? That's what I'd like to know.

And conversely...would those suits prevent a man from freezing in minus 200 degree temperatures?

I'd like to know what matrial those space suits are made out of?

Unobtainium? :dunno:

Staff , doesn't Mercury have an atmosphere ?
Doesn't that change everything ?

[Nobleart]

The point is...it's the heat of the direct rays of the sun which is heating the surface of the moon. Therefore the suits are at the mercy of those same rays and then whoever's inside them. So....can a person be comfortable in those suits and be emersed in boiling hot water with an atmosphere of 100 + degree steam? That's what I'd like to know.

And conversely...would those suits prevent a man from freezing in minus 200 degree temperatures?

I'd like to know what material those space suits are made out of?

Unobtainium? :dunno:


What does boiling hot water have to do with anything?

[slystaff]

What does boiling hot water have to do with anything?Haven't you been paying attention?

The moon in the daylight is one hot motherfucker! Hotter than boiling water and steam!

So if a an has to survive it, those suits have to be able to protect from such temperatures, n'est ce pas?

[60/40]

The temperature on the moon varies from -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius), at night, to 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius) during the day.

Man those guys in the 60s sure knew how to make those damned spacesuits didn't they? :clap:
You must not know much about the moon sly. The north pole of the moon stays a constant moderate temp. Sunlight all the time. Not to hot, not to cold.

[Trplsec]

Boy, we can tell which posters have never toured the NASA Space Center in Florida. The suits are water-cooled (heated).

But, the suits themselves are one of the bigger marvels of space travel. They basically do it all: shield against ultraviolet radiation, micrometeroids and particle radiation.

It's not like NASA just threw a jacket on these guys and sent them into space. They actually gave it some thought. :lol:

[D MAN]

I understand radiation....it's the reason why it gets colder the higher in altitude you get....but i don't think YOU understand the point I'm making...

Oh boy.. I don't know where to start. I'm really not trying to be condescending, but seriously consider taking some physics courses. I enjoyed it alot in my schooling.

The reason it gets colder as you climb higher in elevation is the thinning atmosphere holds less heat. The radiant heat actually increases as you climb altitude, the reason why it is so easy to sunburn when skiing for example.

[D MAN]

The point is...it's the heat of the direct rays of the sun which is heating the surface of the moon. Therefore the suits are at the mercy of those same rays and then whoever's inside them. So....can a person be comfortable in those suits and be emersed in boiling hot water with an atmosphere of 100 + degree steam? That's what I'd like to know.

And conversely...would those suits prevent a man from freezing in minus 200 degree temperatures?

I'd like to know what material those space suits are made out of?

Unobtainium? :dunno:

If theres no atmosphere, then theres no valid comparison between boiling water and being on the moon. As far as your questions go the anser is no and no, the suit will likely not protect you from being boiled alive, or from being plunged into the antarctic. The rate of thermal loss to the atmosphere would be too great.

[CleanYourClock]

You must not know much about the moon sly. The north pole of the moon stays a constant moderate temp. Sunlight all the time. Not to hot, not to cold.

Thats it , Staff won't be back in this thread anymore .. :lol:

[slystaff]

Thats it , Staff won't be back in this thread anymore .. :lol:I'm here, and that is interesting information if I can verify....

[slystaff]

I'm playing devil's advocate on this issue to be honest...because truthfully I'm agnostic about the entire Moon landing. But I want to challenge people to consider everythig and not just accept it blindly

[dymipepel]

I understand radiation....it's the reason why it gets colder the higher in altitude you get


:lol: :lol: :laughing:

[CleanYourClock]

I'm playing devil's advocate on this issue to be honest...because truthfully I'm agnostic about the entire Moon landing. But I want to challenge people to consider everythig and not just accept it blindly

I don't think people do ...

Also , I'm not saying you in particular but , it seems a certain type of people love to believe our government is not capable of certain things like that but they love to believe they are capable of doing such things when when describing certain types of conspiracy theories like secret aircraft that behave like alien flying saucers etc etc..

IMO the two contradict each other ..

[dymipepel]

Gentlemen, do you know why water near freezing temperature is so cold?
It's because of radiation.

[CleanYourClock]

Gentlemen, do you know why water near freezing temperature is so cold?
It's because of radiation.

Really ? So what if I had some near freezing water incased in a 100 ft thick lead box ?

[dymipepel]

Really ? So what if I had some near freezing water incased in a 100 ft thick lead box ?

Well, it's simple. The radiation wouldn't be able to get through the lead, and the water would become hotter and hotter, until it eventually reached the boiling point and evaporated.
Don't believe me? Try this experiment:
Get a lead container, pour some cold water in it, and close the container. Now radiation can't get to the water, and water will become hotter and hotter, until it eventually starts to boil.
That's how I make my tea every morning. Pour some cold water in a lead container and wait until it starts to boil.

[dymipepel]

Are there any laws requiring horses to graduate from junior-high school with at least rudimentary knowledge of physics?

[CleanYourClock]

Well, it's simple. The radiation wouldn't be able to get through the lead, and the water would become hotter and hotter, until it eventually reached the boiling point and evaporated.
Don't believe me? Try this experiment:
Get a lead container, pour some cold water in it, and close the container. Now radiation can't get to the water, and water will become hotter and hotter, until it eventually starts to boil.
That's how I make my tea every morning. Pour some cold water in a lead container and wait until it starts to boil.

:lol:

[60/40]

I'm playing devil's advocate on this issue to be honest...because truthfully I'm agnostic about the entire Moon landing. But I want to challenge people to consider everythig and not just accept it blindly
:clap: I understand and apreeciate your honesty Sly.
The "Sea Of Tranquility" where we landed is in the northern himisphere on the moon. It is a moderate temp all the time. Check out space.com and you could learn alot about it if you are interested.
but once again, thanks for being honest. Its hard to find here sometimes.

[Azazel]

Oh boy.. I don't know where to start. I'm really not trying to be condescending, but seriously consider taking some physics courses. I enjoyed it alot in my schooling.

The reason it gets colder as you climb higher in elevation is the thinning atmosphere holds less heat. The radiant heat actually increases as you climb altitude, the reason why it is so easy to sunburn when skiing for example.
I highly doubt any of us took many physic classes above high school level, and even if you did ( I did some btw ), it won't help you at all in confirming or infirming moon landing, unless, maybe, you did your whole degree in it. Plus, Moon does have some kind of atmosphere

[Buddy Rydell]

Are there any laws requiring horses to graduate from junior-high school with at least rudimentary knowledge of physics?

:laughing:

[Buddy Rydell]

I highly doubt any of you took some physic classes above high school level, and even if you did ( I did some btw ), it won't help you at all in confirming or infirming moon landing.

Confirming or infirming? :eek:

There must a word in French that is similar, but we don't use infirm except to say sick or ailing. You wanted to say disprove, I think.

[Azazel]

Confirming or infirming? :eek:

There must a word in French that is similar, but we don't use infirm except to say sick or ailing. You wanted to say disprove, I think.
No, I really meant infirming:nono:

[Buddy Rydell]

No, I really meant infirming:nono:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infirming
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infirm

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. :dunno: Infirm is not a verb, it is an adjective. You must have a different word in mind, or you are just screwing it up completely. :dunno:

[60/40]

No, I really meant infirming:nono:

Infirm = to invalidate.

You used it correctly.

[Azazel]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infirming
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infirm

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. :dunno: Infirm is not a verb, it is an adjective. You must have a different word in mind, or you are just screwing it up completely. :dunno:
:lol: I was only joking, I fucked up the first time ( you guessed right, a french translation that doesnt work in english ), my other post was a joke.

[Azazel]

Infirm = to invalidate.

You used it correctly.
Ah, so Buddy Rydell gives bad english lesson. Id say its enough proof to infirm his claim to be an english teacher:blobbox: :blobbox:

[Rabid Kimba]

because it was filmed in a basement and yes I'd say it to buzz aldrin's old ass face.

Just like Christ getting his ass kicked, it was all made up bullshit.

:popcorn:

[Rabid Kimba]

You're another idiot then. Figures the two guys who think the Earth and everything on it was created in 7 days, 6 to 20 thousand years ago are the same ones who think we couldn't have used rocket technology (invented around the WW2 era) and physics to get a man to the moon and back.

Jesus was a magic man but the entire NASA team was full of liars and chalatans. GTFOH!!!!

.............and if Octopus comes on here chanting about 8 track tapes I think I'm going to blow my brains out in frustration at how dumb society has become as a whole.

:lol: :bears:

[Orthodox Crusader]

They didn't have Playstation 3, Blu Ray, Plasma Tvs, Advanced computer systems and gadgets in the 60s....yet somehow they managed to land a craft on the moon which is 400,000 miles away and then return and get through the inferno of re-entry wihtout any casualties. Negotiated past the Van Allen belts with consumate ease, didn't see any meteor impacts on the atmosphereless moon when they were up there, didn't freeze to death on the night side or boil to death on the day side...no other country tried to do it and get moon rocks. Quite the feat, America (60s version) is the GREATEST! :bears:

I think you mean Van Halen.

[Rabid Kimba]

Oftentimes over history TRUTH has often been labelled as "Conspiracy theory" so that the sheep continue believing what their masters want them to believe....

Fortunately....not all of us blindly accept things without proving it to ourselves after weighing the evidence...

Oh boy, comments such as these coming from a religious zealot who bases his entire beliefs on a stupidass fucken' retarded book written by ancient imbeciles long ago, lol.

:lol:

[Rabid Kimba]

:lol::lol::lol:

Oh, the irony!

:laughing::laughing:

I know, I know.

:doh: :lol:

[Rabid Kimba]

...

[Orthodox Crusader]

Besides....Blue Ray and PS3, that shit was the resposnibility of the Japs, not NASA. But the Japs wuz running around Nagasaki and Hiroshima in loincloth, so PS3 was kinda not a priority. In the absence of PS3, the Moon seemed like a good idea for the rest of us humans.

[Bug Eyed Earl]

Did this whole thread just happen?

Jesus.

[Rabid Kimba]

:lol:

So are you saying that if you put a man into one of those '60s design spacesuits and immerse him in BOILING water and the rest of the air above the water being STEAM (Excess of 100 degrees c)...he'd be just fine and dandy like Armstrong was and sharing philisophiocal thoughts? :lol:

If that's the case...I'd like to voluntare you for such a test!

If Jesus did it, so can Armstrong.

:popcorn:

[Orthodox Crusader]

You cannot possibly be this retarded.

The Japs had color TV, but were perfecting a flat screen version to save money on transporting it to the US. Hence the delay.

[Rabid Kimba]

I'm not talking about the difficulty in reaching Mercury, I'm talking about the fact that Mercury is very similar to the moon only MUCH hotter during daylight. If having minimal or no atmosphere cuts out two forms of heat...and teh white suits repel the rest...I'm sarcastically saying that men should be able to walk around on the surface of Mercury wearing 60s designed spacesuits.


...and this all information you learned from scientists, not the Bible.

:popcorn:

[Orthodox Crusader]

"Hotter during daylight". I better remember that one.

[Rabid Kimba]

I'm playing devil's advocate on this issue to be honest...because truthfully I'm agnostic about the entire Moon landing. But I want to challenge people to consider everythig and not just accept it blindly

You mean like the Bible?

:popcorn:

[Ropadope]

Well, it's simple. The radiation wouldn't be able to get through the lead, and the water would become hotter and hotter, until it eventually reached the boiling point and evaporated.
Don't believe me? Try this experiment:
Get a lead container, pour some cold water in it, and close the container. Now radiation can't get to the water, and water will become hotter and hotter, until it eventually starts to boil.
That's how I make my tea every morning. Pour some cold water in a lead container and wait until it starts to boil.

You drink from a lead container?

[Rabid Kimba]

The Japs had color TV, but were perfecting a flat screen version to save money on transporting it to the US. Hence the delay.

A Mexican invented the color television, look it up.

:popcorn:

[Nobleart]

A Mexican invented the color television, look it up.

:popcorn:


Yeah, but they sold it to the white man for a fruit stand. :nono:

[Orthodox Crusader]

Yeah, but they sold it to the white man for a fruit stand. :nono:


And a job picking his strawberries. Any wonder Vargas had a shit trainer. Fucker was only good for strawberry pickin. But, ummmm, he didn't half pick some beauties.

[Rabid Kimba]

Yeah, but they sold it to the white man for a fruit stand. :nono:

:lol:

[LOK]

i love this forum

:laughing:

[Nobleart]

i love this forum

:laughing:


:bears:

[D MAN]

I highly doubt any of us took many physic classes above high school level, and even if you did ( I did some btw ), it won't help you at all in confirming or infirming moon landing, unless, maybe, you did your whole degree in it. Plus, Moon does have some kind of atmosphere

I have alot of physics post high school.

Yes the moon does have some atmosphere. You need to understand, like I said.. everything is on a scale.. the atmosphere of the moon is infinitesimal compared to that of the earth.. atmosphere exists in space.. it is merely the particulate matter that is surrounding the object being related to// and varies from dense to highly sparse. A denser atmosphere creates a higher rate of heat transfer. Wind chill, for example, is in effect a pseudo-dense atmosphere.. since there is greater particle interaction between the air and objects in it's path. Being on the moon, with a sparse atmosphere.. is like having a negative wind-chill, if you can imagine that. Objects in it's atmosphere are very immune to the surrounding temperature, whether it is hot or cold.

[LOK]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY..

but did Mexicans invent color TV?

I have alot of physics post high school.

Yes the moon does have some atmosphere. You need to understand, like I said.. everything is on a scale.. the atmosphere of the moon is infinitesimal compared to that of the earth.. atmosphere exists in space.. it is merely the particulate matter that is surrounding the object being related to// and varies from dense to highly sparse. A denser atmosphere creates a higher rate of heat transfer. Wind chill, for example, is in effect a pseudo-dense atmosphere.. since there is greater particle interaction between the air and objects in it's path. Being on the moon, with a sparse atmosphere.. is like having a negative wind-chill, if you can imagine that. Objects in it's atmosphere are very immune to the surrounding temperature, whether it is hot or cold.

[60/40]

Ah, so Buddy Rydell gives bad english lesson. Id say its enough proof to infirm his claim to be an english teacher:blobbox: :blobbox:
To be honest I had never heard the word before, but it is in the dictionary that way.:dunno:

[Rabid Kimba]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY..

but did Mexicans invent color TV?

From the Museum of Broadcast Communications:

http://www.museum.tv/museumsection.php


"In 1934 Guillermo Gonzalez Camarena built his own monochromatic camera; by 1939, Gonzalez Camarena had developed a Trichromatic system, and in 1940 he obtained the first patent for color television in the world."

http://www.opcionlatina.com/images/tv.gif

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/M/htmlM/mexico/mexico.htm

:popcorn:

[James68]

According to DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, the most important film of its kind since Oliver Stone's JFK - or since Rob Reiner's This is Spinal Tap, at any rate - images of Neil Armstrong's walk on the moon on July 20, 1969 were shown to the world through the lens of master film-maker Stanley Kubrick and were staged on the same Borehamwood, U.K., soundstage where Kubrick made his landmark film, 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Don't believe it? Consider the evidence. Still images taken of the American flag on the moon showed it waving this way and that, but, as Dark Side of the Moon points out, there is no wind on the moon.

The moon is affected by extreme temperature changes, which are exacerbated by its lack of atmosphere. The camera supposedly used to take the lunar stills, a Hasselblad 500, would not operate at temperature extremes that cause chemical changes in film emulsion. Mechanical parts expand and lenses loosen in extreme heat. Exposure meters fail and film shatters like glass in extreme cold.

X-rays from the sun would fog the film, and ultra-violet rays would distort the colours - yet the colours in the Moon landing pictures are perfect.

Gravity on the moon is one-sixth that of the Earth, which means that an astronaut who would weigh 140 kilograms in his space suit on the ground would weigh only about 30 kilos on the moon. And yet the depth of the astronauts' footprints in the sand on the moon suggest they weighed much more than that.

None of the photos taken on the Moon showed evidence of a flash. You would have seen a flash, experts in Dark Side of the Moon insist, because the astronaut taking the photograph would have been reflected in the visor of the other astronaut.

The rest of the article here:

http://www.orwelltoday.com/moonhoaxdoc.shtml

[meetthefeebles]

I'm drunk, so excuse me, but...

...are people seriously suggesting that the moon landings were BS?

Seriously?

[Nobleart]

According to DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, the most important film of its kind since Oliver Stone's JFK - or since Rob Reiner's This is Spinal Tap, at any rate - images of Neil Armstrong's walk on the moon on July 20, 1969 were shown to the world through the lens of master film-maker Stanley Kubrick and were staged on the same Borehamwood, U.K., soundstage where Kubrick made his landmark film, 2001: A Space Odyssey.



:lol:


This bait will go untouched by me.

[Rabid Kimba]

I'm drunk, so excuse me, but...

...are people seriously suggesting that the moon landings were BS?

Seriously?

If people believe wholeheartedly in the Bible, they can sure believe the moon landings were staged.

Just like some idiots here think humans rode ontop dinosaurs 6000 years ago.

:lol:

[Nobleart]

If people believe wholeheartedly in the Bible, they can sure believe the moon landings were staged.

Just like some idiots here think humans rode ontop dinosaurs 6000 years ago.

:lol:


WTF??? 6000 years ago? The dinosaur was going strong right up until the great Steroid scandal of 1988. :nono:


http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/sauropods/japanscreens/images/cap007.jpg

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/sauropods/japanscreens/images/cap009.jpg

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/sauropods/japanscreens/images/cap010.jpg

[r o o s t e r]

Oftentimes over history TRUTH has often been labelled as "Conspiracy theory" so that the sheep continue believing what their masters want them to believe...

has this really happened often? what examples?

[Orthodox Crusader]

If people believe wholeheartedly in the Bible, they can sure believe the moon landings were staged.

Just like some idiots here think humans rode ontop dinosaurs 6000 years ago.

:lol:


The flip side is:- if the Moon Landings WERE staged, how did the DUMB ASS YANKS come up with the idea FIRST

Surely, Communism would have given the Soviets the edge in making these kind of smart decisions.

Or maybe the COmmies didn;t want to lie to anyone.

[slystaff]

has this really happened often? what examples?You serious?

[Tyler Durden]

They didn't have Playstation 3, Blu Ray, Plasma Tvs, Advanced computer systems and gadgets in the 60s....yet somehow they managed to land a craft on the moon which is 400,000 miles away and then return and get through the inferno of re-entry wihtout any casualties. Negotiated past the Van Allen belts with consumate ease, didn't see any meteor impacts on the atmosphereless moon when they were up there, didn't freeze to death on the night side or boil to death on the day side...no other country tried to do it and get moon rocks. Quite the feat, America (60s version) is the GREATEST! :bears:

Yeah, like they went into orbit with the same scenerio you just laid out:rolleyes: , it just plain never happened :clap: :notallthere:

[atomicdOGg34]

anyone who thinks the moon landing was staged is an idiot, what proof do you have to support that stance?

none

[Tyler Durden]

anyone who thinks the moon landing was staged is an idiot, what proof do you have to support that stance?

none

You can't go into outerspace with that kind of technology, besides......you would boil or freeze :doh:

[atomicdOGg34]

You can't go into outerspace with that kind of technology, besides......you would boil or freeze :doh:

national geographic had an excellent documentary on the moonlanding, debunking all the conspiracy theories, from the "waving flag" to the no stars

its great, you should check it out

[Tyler Durden]

national geographic had an excellent documentary on the moonlanding, debunking all the conspiracy theories, from the "waving flag" to the no stars

its great, you should check it out

I was making fun of someone that just said that, he should :nono:

[atomicdOGg34]

I was making fun of someone that just said that, he should :nono:

oh....

well then, you nevermind what i said but everyone else should watch it

[Nobleart]

You can't go into outerspace with that kind of technology, besides......you would boil or freeze :doh:


:lol:


Sly says a General Electric toaster oven won't protect you in the vacuum of space.

[Joe King]

anyone who thinks the moon landing was staged is an idiot, what proof do you have to support that stance?

none

Just like those who think that God doesn't exist, and they have no proof either.

[Rabid Kimba]

Just like those who think that God doesn't exist, and they have no proof either.

You keep living like a good little sheep with the rest of your flock...I'll keep on trucking with my fellow lions in an orgy of lionesses pride fucking.

:lol:

[I and I]

Since sound don't travel in space, how were the sound waves making it to the astronauts microphones?

:popcorn:

And when they were driving the space mobile :lol: whenever the thing would hit a bump it wouldn't bounce, yet the astronauts would just barely skip and they would get relatively high and long hang time.

[Nobleart]

Since sound don't travel in space, how were the sound waves making it to the astronauts microphones?

:popcorn:

And when they were driving the space mobile :lol: whenever the thing would hit a bump it wouldn't bounce, yet the astronauts would just barely skip and they would get relatively high and long hang time.


You must be happy I and I. You and the zeolots are on the same side on this issue. :clap:

[I and I]

You must be happy I and I. You and the zeolots are on the same side on this issue. :clap:

God says sound doesn't travel in space. :lol: But Santa said it does.

[Trplsec]

Since sound don't travel in space, how were the sound waves making it to the astronauts microphones?

:popcorn:

And when they were driving the space mobile :lol: whenever the thing would hit a bump it wouldn't bounce, yet the astronauts would just barely skip and they would get relatively high and long hang time.


What a moron. The microphones are INSIDE their helmets not 'in space'.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh god, dolts debating science. Next up: quadriplegics discuss playing cornerback using inside technique.

[Anthony]

You keep living like a good little sheep with the rest of your flock...I'll keep on trucking with my fellow lions in an orgy of lionesses pride fucking.

:lol:you are home playing with dolls man. You aint doing shit with your life. :lol:

[I and I]

What a moron. The microphones are INSIDE their helmets not 'in space'.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh god, dolts debating science. Next up: quadriplegics discuss playing cornerback using inside technique.

So being enclosed means you aren't affected by something like the inability for sound waves to travel?

[I and I]

While Trplsec is busy googling info on soundwaves in space, I am going to go to sleep. :popcorn:

[Trplsec]

While Trplsec is busy googling info on soundwaves in space, I am going to go to sleep. :popcorn:


Googling shit. You're an idiot and I'm not explaining how sound waves travel to you.

You made yet another Hall of Shame comment now live with it or back it up.


Response moron???????

[Rabid Kimba]

you are home playing with dolls man. You aint doing shit with your life. :lol:

I'm also drinking lots of beer.

:lol:

[Rabid Kimba]

What a moron. The microphones are INSIDE their helmets not 'in space'.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh god, dolts debating science. Next up: quadriplegics discuss playing cornerback using inside technique.

Yeah, what an idiot.

:lol:

Radio waves does travel through space.

:popcorn:

[Trplsec]

Googling shit. You're an idiot and I'm not explaining how sound waves travel to you.

You made yet another Hall of Shame comment now live with it or back it up.


Response moron???????


Come on dude. You're still online. Step up and explain....

[I and I]

Googling shit. You're an idiot and I'm not explaining how sound waves travel to you.

You made yet another Hall of Shame comment now live with it or back it up.


Response moron???????

What comment did I make, I asked a question. I was liberating a question from my mind. :lol:

YOU are the one that made a comment. How did sound waves travel to the microphones? Please tell us how sound waves travelled inside the suit. :popcorn:

[Trplsec]

What comment did I make, I asked a question. I was liberating a question from my mind. :lol:

YOU are the one that made a comment. How did sound waves travel to the microphones? Please tell us how sound waves travelled inside the suit. :popcorn:

You said:


Since sound don't travel in space,


Do you stand by that?????

:lol: :lol: I love picking on tards..

[I and I]

Yeah, what an idiot.

:lol:

Radio waves does travel through space.

:popcorn:

I didn't say or ask anything about how it was transmitted to earth. :doh:

I asked how soundwaves travelled to the microphones that the astronauts were using.

[Nobleart]

You said:



Do you stand by that?????

:lol: :lol: I love picking on tards..



He's stringing you along Trplsec. Go to bed, it's late. :nono:

[Trplsec]

You said:



Do you stand by that?????

:lol: :lol: I love picking on tards..


Come on little guy, you claimed that "since sound don't travel in space, how can sound make it to their microphones?"

Are sticking by that?

[I and I]

You said:



Do you stand by that?????

:lol: :lol: I love picking on tards..

If you stand by your explanation that soundwaves were picked up because of the mic's being inside the suit.

[Anthony]

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/Communications/2-why-does-it-take-so-long.html

[I and I]

What a moron. The microphones are INSIDE their helmets not 'in space'.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh god, dolts debating science. Next up: quadriplegics discuss playing cornerback using inside technique.

Will trplsec run like a little bitch from his explanation of how soundwaves were able to travel to the mics that the astronauts were talking into?

[Trplsec]

If you stand by your explanation that soundwaves were picked up because of the mic's being inside the suit.


Absolutely. SImply put, the suits are pressurized and therefore there are molecules for the sound to vibrate and hence get picked up by the microphones.

[I and I]

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/Communications/2-why-does-it-take-so-long.html

Hey Godfather.

:popcorn:

SOUND WAVES

[Anthony]

If you stand by your explanation that soundwaves were picked up because of the mic's being inside the suit.You asked how where they talking. They were talking through Radio waves which travel through space.

[Anthony]

Hey Godfather.

:popcorn:

SOUND WAVESYeah no shit. Sound through Radio waves. You asked how were they talking.

[Trplsec]

Absolutely. SImply put, the suits are pressurized and therefore there are molecules for the sound to vibrate and hence get picked up by the microphones.


Damn, I and I owned yet again..


I feel like I could be arrested for owning another human being so much. If only I could get him to call me 'master'.

[Trplsec]

You asked how where they talking. They were talking through Radio waves which travel through space.

Actually he was asking how the sound makies it TO the microphone for transmitting. I just explained that to him.

[Trplsec]

Oh no.. Little I and I has yet another BS statement shot down..


OUCH!!!!:warning:

[Anthony]

Actually he was asking how the sound makies it TO the microphone for transmitting. I just explained that to him.Ok im confused. So he is asking how they speak in their suits?

[I and I]

Yeah no shit. Sound through Radio waves. You asked how were they talking.



I never asked anything that is related to radio waves.

[Anthony]

I never asked anything that is related to radio waves.So you asked how they make sound in their suits right? Please say yes

[Nobleart]

:doh:


He was fuckin' with you guys.

[Rabid Kimba]

Damn I and I. Are you just teasing us? Or are you just this retarded?

[Trplsec]

Ok im confused. So he is asking how they speak in their suits?


Yes, if sound doesn't travel in space then how did the sound make it to their microphones..

He really needs to stick to Santa and black boxes. This is difficult to watch.

[Anthony]

Yes, if sound doesn't travel in space then how did the sound make it to their microphones..

He really needs to stick to Santa and black boxes. This is difficult to watch.I thought he was talking about from the Ship to the Microphones. :lol:

[I and I]

Trplsec NEVER explained how sound can travel in space yet somehow he owned me?

CYC????:laughing: :laughing:

He also never explained how pressurizing a suit would make the soundwaves travel like they do on earth.

[I and I]

:doh:


He was fuckin' with you guys.

Messing with people on a message board after banging a capitalist chick. :lol: gotta love it.

[Trplsec]

I thought he was talking about from the Ship to the Microphones. :lol:


:lol: Yeah, now if there were two naked dudes in space screaming at each other, then no, they couldn't hear it.

However, NASA, in their infinite wisdom thought it would be best to put them in pressurized suits for many major reasons with sound being one of the minor ones.

:laughing:

[Trplsec]

Trplsec NEVER explained how sound can travel in space yet somehow he owned me?

CYC????:laughing: :laughing:

He also never explained how pressurizing a suit would make the soundwaves travel like they do on earth.


Ummm. Yes I did.. Scroll back....


Retard 0 Trplsec 135

[I and I]

Since sound don't travel in space, how were the sound waves making it to the astronauts microphones?

:popcorn:

And when they were driving the space mobile :lol: whenever the thing would hit a bump it wouldn't bounce, yet the astronauts would just barely skip and they would get relatively high and long hang time.

Apparently Trplsec can't read well. You see, that symbol after the sentence is a question mark, meaning it's a question, not a statement.

The beginning of the sentence before the comma is a statement, which you haven't challenged yet.

Trplsec is one dumb bitch who doesn't read his own articles, or read his own history books on the korean war, and doesn't read the posts he is supposedly responding to and owning people on. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Go Trplsec :cheer:

[Anthony]

Apparently Trplsec can't read well. You see, that symbol after the sentence is a question mark, meaning it's a question, not a statement.

The beginning of the sentence before the comma is a statement, which you haven't challenged yet.

Trplsec is one dumb bitch who doesn't read his own articles, or read his own history books on the korean war, and doesn't read the posts he is supposedly responding to and owning people on. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Go Trplsec :cheer:The sound wasnt traveling in space. It was Traveling in their Suits.

[Trplsec]

Apparently Trplsec can't read well. You see, that symbol after the sentence is a question mark, meaning it's a question, not a statement.

The beginning of the sentence before the comma is a statement, which you haven't challenged yet.

Trplsec is one dumb bitch who doesn't read his own articles, or read his own history books on the korean war, and doesn't read the posts he is supposedly responding to and owning people on. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Go Trplsec :cheer:


OH OK.. So you just did know and were hoping we could explain it to you.:rolleyes:

Happy to help. Hope this gives you a better understanding..

Another twist move by the master of stupidity.

[I and I]

The sound wasnt traveling in space. It was Traveling in their Suits.

I know that, I was asking how it travelled in their suits, what affect the suit pressure would have on sound waves since it was in an environment where sound can't travel.

Apprently Trplsec thought I was claiming that sound can't travel in a pressurized suit in space. :lol:

[I and I]

OH OK.. So you just did know and were hoping we could explain it to you.:rolleyes:

Happy to help. Hope this gives you a better understanding..

Another twist move by the master of stupidity.

The twist was when you tried to twist it around to be a statement instead of a question.

When are you going to tell us how sound can travel in space? :lol:

[Anthony]

travel in a pressurized suit in space. :lol:You were

[I and I]

You were


What is that?

[Trplsec]

The twist was when you tried to twist it around to be a statement instead of a question.

When are you going to tell us how sound can travel in space? :lol:


Nice try.. But I never said sound traveled in space.


I explained, because you were too retarded to already know, how sound traveled to the astronauts microphones.

I still find it amazing that a 20 something college student in the US did not understand how the sound could make it to the microphone..

Seriously, is it me or does that seem extremely moronic? Our education system must be shitty and we have living, breathing proof right here on FightBeat...


:doh: :doh: :doh:

[Tyler Durden]

What a moron. The microphones are INSIDE their helmets not 'in space'.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh god, dolts debating science. Next up: quadriplegics discuss playing cornerback using inside technique.

:lol:

[Tyler Durden]

So what is going on about waves and such? They just didn't have the techmology back then, they'd burn up and freeze :dunno: You can't make a microwave oven go in outer space can you? :nono:

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[Orthodox Crusader]

What a moron. The microphones are INSIDE their helmets not 'in space'.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh god, dolts debating science. Next up: quadriplegics discuss playing cornerback using inside technique.

http://www.ncpad.org/get/images/home/physicalactivity/competitive/football(american)/football1.jpg

[I and I]

Nice try.. But I never said sound traveled in space.


I explained, because you were too retarded to already know, how sound traveled to the astronauts microphones.

I still find it amazing that a 20 something college student in the US did not understand how the sound could make it to the microphone..

Seriously, is it me or does that seem extremely moronic? Our education system must be shitty and we have living, breathing proof right here on FightBeat...


:doh: :doh: :doh:

So you aren't going to challenge me on my comment that sound can't travel in space? You kept repeating and commenting on that part also:dunno:

Trplsecs education didn't get past the the commas and periods and what they are used for. :lol: What a dumbass.

[ILLUMINATI]

:dunno:

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1717/iandiidiotra5.gif

[Trplsec]

Originally Posted by Trplsec
Nice try.. But I never said sound traveled in space.


I explained, because you were too retarded to already know, how sound traveled to the astronauts microphones.

I still find it amazing that a 20 something college student in the US did not understand how the sound could make it to the microphone..

Seriously, is it me or does that seem extremely moronic? Our education system must be shitty and we have living, breathing proof right here on FightBeat...


:doh: :doh: :doh:

[D MAN]

:dunno:

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1717/iandiidiotra5.gif

But how does sound travel on earth ?

Are you trying to say that sound travels faster in space than on earth?

[Anthony]

But how does sound travel on earth ?

Are you trying to say that sound travels faster in space than on earth?Radio waves travel faster in Space than Earth. Sound Doesnt Travel in Space

[Nobleart]

I can't believe you guys are still arguing this. :dunno:

[Trplsec]

I can't believe you guys are still arguing this. :dunno:


Just stay out of this unless you want some bitch.

[D MAN]

Radio waves travel faster in Space than Earth. Sound Doesnt Travel in Space

Prove it.

[Anthony]

Prove it.I can only go by what the experts say.

[Tyler Durden]

I can only go by what the experts say.

Sheep.

[Buddy Rydell]

Sure Sly. We should be able to walk on the sun to, right? I mean, it's nearly the exact same thing. :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

Ah, so Buddy Rydell gives bad english lesson. Id say its enough proof to infirm his claim to be an english teacher:blobbox: :blobbox:

Wrong, I'm just reading back through this thread now because I didn't know that outer space actually isn't the vacuum that people believe it is. Now I come across this.

Infirm is not a verb according to the Webster's dictionary people, and they would know better than you or me.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infirm

[Buddy Rydell]

I have alot of physics post high school.

Yes the moon does have some atmosphere. You need to understand, like I said.. everything is on a scale.. the atmosphere of the moon is infinitesimal compared to that of the earth.. atmosphere exists in space.. it is merely the particulate matter that is surrounding the object being related to// and varies from dense to highly sparse. A denser atmosphere creates a higher rate of heat transfer. Wind chill, for example, is in effect a pseudo-dense atmosphere.. since there is greater particle interaction between the air and objects in it's path. Being on the moon, with a sparse atmosphere.. is like having a negative wind-chill, if you can imagine that. Objects in it's atmosphere are very immune to the surrounding temperature, whether it is hot or cold.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_030922.html

Yep, this I didn't know. Atmosphere exists out in space, but it is much much thinner. :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

Double post.

[Buddy Rydell]

Since sound don't travel in space, how were the sound waves making it to the astronauts microphones?

:popcorn:

And when they were driving the space mobile :lol: whenever the thing would hit a bump it wouldn't bounce, yet the astronauts would just barely skip and they would get relatively high and long hang time.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_030922.html

Sound travels in space.

[Buddy Rydell]

The twist was when you tried to twist it around to be a statement instead of a question.

When are you going to tell us how sound can travel in space? :lol:

"Sound can travel through space, because space is not the total vacuum it's often made out to be. Atoms of gas give the universe a ubiquitous atmosphere of sorts, albeit a very thin one."

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_030922.html