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TFK
12-21-2007, 11:16 AM
Petre, you can't start a thread, post only your opinions in it, and not allow others to post theres. Quit abusing your mod powers to push your agenda.

If you don't like what people have to say about Paul, then don't start topics about him.

TFK

Trplsec
12-21-2007, 11:36 AM
Petre, you can't start a thread, post only your opinions in it, and not allow others to post theres. Quit abusing your mod powers to push your agenda.

If you don't like what people have to say about Paul, then don't start topics about him.

TFK


You beat me to the punch on this one. Petre locks the thread so that he can spew Ron Paul BS without fear of anyone questioning or opposing his viewpoint.

Ridiculous.

PetreTG
12-21-2007, 11:37 AM
Petre, you can't start a thread, post only your opinions in it, and not allow others to post theres. Quit abusing your mod powers to push your agenda.

If you don't like what people have to say about Paul, then don't start topics about him.

TFK

Why am I not surprised you'd be the first to cry. :clap:

Feel free to bring up any issues in new threads you want to whine about. That thread I was hoping people would be mature enough to recognize as a daily updated informational one where you can view latest info on him and form your own opinion. That doesn't mean the bickering can't happen in other threads.

You're also free to start your own threads on oppossing candidates or on Paul if you so choose.

PetreTG
12-21-2007, 11:38 AM
You beat me to the punch on this one. Petre locks the thread so that he can spew Ron Paul BS without fear of anyone questioning or opposing his viewpoint.

Ridiculous.

I'm not giving my opinions in the thread ... I'm posting info .

monkeystyle
12-21-2007, 11:40 AM
I come here for the Petre threads :clap:

PetreTG
12-21-2007, 11:50 AM
If it means that much to everyone , I'll open it so you can bash away and chalk it up to being a failed experiment where the maturity level was simply too low to handle not being able to piss on and ruin one thread.

As I said ... any issue that came up in the INFORMATIONAL thread could be brought up in a new thread and I would not ignore it.

Trying to get a coherent daily update thread with all the clowning would be impossible and starting new threads on what is basically the same subject , RON PAUL , was already "complained about" in a manner when Nobleart made the thread on it , to which I was sympathetic .

Which is why I started that ONE thread.

So what's the concensus .... can we be given one thread without all the bickering that you can pick info from which to complain about in other threads ??? Or should I open it and let it dye off the board and go start my own blog ???

Majority rules.

I await your decision.

TFK
12-21-2007, 11:50 AM
Why am I not surprised you'd be the first to cry. :clap:

Feel free to bring up any issues in new threads you want to whine about. That thread I was hoping people would be mature enough to recognize as a daily updated informational one where you can view latest info on him and form your own opinion. That doesn't mean the bickering can't happen in other threads.

You're also free to start your own threads on oppossing candidates or on Paul if you so choose.

Petre, it's not crying, it's pointing out what a raging hypocrite you are.

You're always crying about the evil 'MSM' and how they only let you hear what they want you to hear, can't you see by creating a thread with your opinions, and not allowing any opposing opinions or debate, you're doing the same exact thing?

If people want to read about Ron Paul, they can check out his website. But if you want to discuss Ron Paul, we can do it here, but it has to be an open discussion.

Why doesn't it surprise you that I was the first to speak up? Because you know I don't stand for bullshit like this, I hate hypocrisy, and I despise abuse of mod powers.

Now I suggest you unlock the thread and open it for discussion immediately. Failure to do so would be an outright abuse of your Mod powers, and the posters at Fightbeat won't stand for that. Just ask Phonetap.

TFK

Trplsec
12-21-2007, 11:52 AM
I am curious. As a non-mod, do I have the ability to lock a thread and only update it when I want to?

If not, then I think Petre should be able to see the issue with this. If he can't, then he is a hypocrite as TFK describes.

TFK
12-21-2007, 11:53 AM
If it means that much to everyone , I'll open it so you can bash away and chalk it up to being a failed experiment where the maturity level was simply too low to handle not being able to piss on and ruin one thread.

As I said ... any issue that came up in the INFORMATIONAL thread could be brought up in a new thread and I would not ignore it.

Trying to get a coherent daily update thread with all the clowning would be impossible and starting new threads on what is basically the same subject , RON PAUL , was already "complained about" in a manner when Nobleart made the thread on it , to which I was sympathetic .

Which is why I started that ONE thread.

So what's the concensus .... can we be given one thread without all the bickering that you can pick info from which to complain about in other threads ??? Or should I open it and let it dye off the board and go start my own blog ???

Majority rules.

I await your decision.

Petre, if you want ONE Ron Paul thread, that's fine. We can keep all Ron Paul discussion in one thread, but for you to be the only one posting is ridiculous.

If you want a Ron Paul discussion, then by all means, start one. But if you just want to post Ron Paul articles and not allow anyone to comment on or debate them, then there are plenty of free internet message boards that are very easy to set up. I suggest you find one, and post about Ron Paul to your heart's content.

TFK

TFK
12-21-2007, 11:55 AM
The worst part of this all is, I'm not even against Ron Paul. There is a lot about him that I admire, and while I haven't chosen who I'm supporting yet, there is a chance I will choose Paul.

I just call BS when I see it.

This is a perfect example of Ron Paul's biggest weakness being his Tin Foil Hat Wearing following, who do nothing but make him look bad.

And that's a shame.

TFK

Trplsec
12-21-2007, 11:58 AM
I am curious. As a non-mod, do I have the ability to lock a thread and only update it when I want to?

If not, then I think Petre should be able to see the issue with this. If he can't, then he is a hypocrite as TFK describes.


Anyone?

TFK
12-21-2007, 12:01 PM
Anyone?

I'm guessing 'No'.

Just to add, this is not the first time Petre has pulled this shit. He did it awhile back with another Ron Paul thread, if I remember correctly. Add that to the disappearing threads of the past, and it doesn't look like Petre is a very good moderator.

Personally, I like Petre and I welcome and appreciate all the content he brings to the board, of which without it, Fightbeat wouldn't be nearly as entertaining or informative. That being said, I think it's crystal clear he has no business being a moderator.

TFK

Arben
12-21-2007, 12:05 PM
This is a DISCUSSION board, not an RSS Feed.

dsimon3387
12-21-2007, 12:31 PM
dsimon writes:

I see dymipepel lurking around... What do yu think D? I am with D. whatever he says! :cheer:

PetreTG
12-21-2007, 12:46 PM
I am curious. As a non-mod, do I have the ability to lock a thread and only update it when I want to?

If not, then I think Petre should be able to see the issue with this. If he can't, then he is a hypocrite as TFK describes.

I don't think you can lock a thread . What you can do is request a mod or admin to do it and update it in the same manner.

See you want to call me a hypocrite for posting an informational thread , but I'd have no problem doing the same for anyone else ... especially on an issue like the campaign's for president.

Trplsec
12-21-2007, 12:54 PM
I don't think you can lock a thread . What you can do is request a mod or admin to do it and update it in the same manner.

See you want to call me a hypocrite for posting an informational thread , but I'd have no problem doing the same for anyone else ... especially on an issue like the campaign's for president.


Petre, I am shocked that you don't see the issue here.

I have never once questioned you as a moderator. But if you honestly don't see the issue with this, I have my doubts about you.

PetreTG
12-21-2007, 12:59 PM
I'm guessing 'No'.

Just to add, this is not the first time Petre has pulled this shit. He did it awhile back with another Ron Paul thread, if I remember correctly. Add that to the disappearing threads of the past, and it doesn't look like Petre is a very good moderator.

Personally, I like Petre and I welcome and appreciate all the content he brings to the board, of which without it, Fightbeat wouldn't be nearly as entertaining or informative. That being said, I think it's crystal clear he has no business being a moderator.

TFK

Now I'm a bad mod ... :lol:

For the record I didn't do anything with another Ron Paul thread , you don't remember correctly and I have never deleted any thread I wasn't asked to or told to delete.

I've been the advocate of open discussion here , less controls and banning only in extreme cases .

The old addages of grass being greener and careful what you wish for come to mind .... but I wouldn't expect you to understand.

As for mod powers , seeing as how I barely use them except when someone gets really nasty yet still the accusations come ??? As far as I'm concerned , you guys can vote whoever you want to be a mod in my place and I can take my marbles and leave. Trust me ... I get no pleasure from being a mod.

PetreTG
12-21-2007, 01:01 PM
Petre, I am shocked that you don't see the issue here.

I have never once questioned you as a moderator. But if you honestly don't see the issue with this, I have my doubts about you.

Well so far it's only been the two of you really complaining but ...

EXPERIMENT FAILED - One thread is too much to ask.

The NAYS have it , the playground is open and the well will run dry.

Have at it kiddies ...

The mob RULES ! :clap:

Anthony
12-21-2007, 01:03 PM
What thread are we talking about here? I dont see anything locked.

PetreTG
12-21-2007, 01:06 PM
What thread are we talking about here? I dont see anything locked.
This one (http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22546) .... and I unlocked it .

However , years from now you'll hear about how I locked threads to control them and prevent opposition to my opinions.

Yeah .... that's me alright! The guy that debates with more people on this board than anyone most of the time.

:bears:

Anthony
12-21-2007, 01:08 PM
This one (http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22546) .... and I unlocked it .

However , years from now you'll hear about how I locked threads to control them and prevent opposition to my opinions.

Yeah .... that's me alright! The guy that debates with more people on this board than anyone most of the time.

:bears:Its cool. No big deal. Lets just move on. You locked it, people complained and you unlocked it. No controversy there.

toomuchsol
12-21-2007, 01:14 PM
You can relock your thread if I can have a "Ron Paul is a racist and accepts money from Neo-Nazis" thread that only I can post in.:warning:

Trplsec
12-21-2007, 01:23 PM
You can relock your thread if I can have a "Ron Paul is a racist and accepts money from Neo-Nazis" thread that only I can post in.:warning:

And therein lies the problem that Petre doesn't see.

CleanYourClock
12-21-2007, 01:24 PM
Petre , I don't know enough about Ron Paul either way to make any comments on him.
However I do know that you are always speaking "the control of power" and how its slowly getting taken away from the people.
You post about new laws , Police officers actions , etc.
Now you take it upon yourself to do the same type of thing.:nono:

TFK
12-21-2007, 04:00 PM
Now I'm a bad mod ... :lol:

For the record I didn't do anything with another Ron Paul thread , you don't remember correctly and I have never deleted any thread I wasn't asked to or told to delete.



My mistake. You didn't lock another Ron Paul thread, you stickied it. This one here.

http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18566&highlight=abuse

That was the example of you abusing your mod powers to push your Ron Paul agenda that I was thinking of.

And yes, you have deleted entire threads before. I still have your PM's with your explanation of why you did it, if you want me to post them.

And yes, I do agree with you....your experiment did fail.

The members of this board do not want opinions shoved down their throats without an opportinity to respond and to debate them. The members of this board will not allow you to do the same thing you criticize the 'MSM' for doing. It's clear, the members of this board are not your sheep.

And I don't see what the purpose of locking the thread was anyway. I have yet to see any discussion about Paul that was offensive, or spamming, or trolling, or anything other then people giving their opinions and telling their side of the story.

Now as far as you threatening to 'take you marbles and leave', that's even more pathetic then locking the thread. If it angers you that people don't want threads that they can't respond to, and that people don't want Mods who abuse their powers to push their own agenda, then your problems go much further then the 'Tin Foil Hat' issues you clearly have.

TFK

ArturoGatti
12-21-2007, 04:05 PM
dsimon writes:

I see dymipepel lurking around... What do yu think D? I am with D. whatever he says! :cheer::bears: :lol: :laughing:

60/40
12-21-2007, 04:14 PM
Petre, it's not crying, it's pointing out what a raging hypocrite you are.

You're always crying about the evil 'MSM' and how they only let you hear what they want you to hear, can't you see by creating a thread with your opinions, and not allowing any opposing opinions or debate, you're doing the same exact thing?

If people want to read about Ron Paul, they can check out his website. But if you want to discuss Ron Paul, we can do it here, but it has to be an open discussion.

Why doesn't it surprise you that I was the first to speak up? Because you know I don't stand for bullshit like this, I hate hypocrisy, and I despise abuse of mod powers.

Now I suggest you unlock the thread and open it for discussion immediately. Failure to do so would be an outright abuse of your Mod powers, and the posters at Fightbeat won't stand for that. Just ask Phonetap.

TFK

I am curious. As a non-mod, do I have the ability to lock a thread and only update it when I want to?

If not, then I think Petre should be able to see the issue with this. If he can't, then he is a hypocrite as TFK describes.
Two good Posts.:bears:

60/40
12-21-2007, 04:20 PM
Petre , I don't know enough about Ron Paul either way to make any comments on him.
However I do know that you are always speaking "the control of power" and how its slowly getting taken away from the people.
You post about new laws , Police officers actions , etc.
Now you take it upon yourself to do the same type of thing.:nono:
Exactly, Why bitch about the same thing you think is wrong with this country? We are just doing what you want us to do petre.

Arben
12-21-2007, 04:30 PM
The other Ron Paul thread in question here is one that Petre wanted to have stickied. It was open discussion though.

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 10:34 AM
My mistake. You didn't lock another Ron Paul thread, you stickied it. This one here.

http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18566&highlight=abuse

That was the example of you abusing your mod powers to push your Ron Paul agenda that I was thinking of.

And yes, you have deleted entire threads before. I still have your PM's with your explanation of why you did it, if you want me to post them.

And yes, I do agree with you....your experiment did fail.

The members of this board do not want opinions shoved down their throats without an opportinity to respond and to debate them. The members of this board will not allow you to do the same thing you criticize the 'MSM' for doing. It's clear, the members of this board are not your sheep.

And I don't see what the purpose of locking the thread was anyway. I have yet to see any discussion about Paul that was offensive, or spamming, or trolling, or anything other then people giving their opinions and telling their side of the story.

Now as far as you threatening to 'take you marbles and leave', that's even more pathetic then locking the thread. If it angers you that people don't want threads that they can't respond to, and that people don't want Mods who abuse their powers to push their own agenda, then your problems go much further then the 'Tin Foil Hat' issues you clearly have.

TFK
it was a poll that I didn't want to have to bump and was going to be gone most of the next few days. Votes wouldn't hold it up for people to see.

Pinning a poll is an abuse of mod powers ? ....

I swear , sometimes I think you MEN are really a bunch of women and I think I seriously need to think about whether or not I want to waste my time bickering with women .

One non opinion , informational thread was too much.

When I leave I nominate TFK for Mod .... let's see how well he does.

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 10:38 AM
Petre , I don't know enough about Ron Paul either way to make any comments on him.
However I do know that you are always speaking "the control of power" and how its slowly getting taken away from the people.
You post about new laws , Police officers actions , etc.
Now you take it upon yourself to do the same type of thing.:nono:
No one was preventing discussion of any kind ... that's what you all fail to see. Were I locking threads in general about Ron Paul to stop criticism you might have a point.

The thread was supposed be a well of knowledge on him and his campaign without me having to start multiple topics on new developements, that could be drawn on to create and debate any topic on him anyone so chose to which you can be sure I would have participated in .... one without getting convoluted and overun with questions and debate.

Unfortunately the maturity level around here couldn't handle not having the ability to piss in it.

TFK
12-22-2007, 11:04 AM
it was a poll that I didn't want to have to bump and was going to be gone most of the next few days. Votes wouldn't hold it up for people to see.

Pinning a poll is an abuse of mod powers ? ....

I swear , sometimes I think you MEN are really a bunch of women and I think I seriously need to think about whether or not I want to waste my time bickering with women .

One non opinion , informational thread was too much.

When I leave I nominate TFK for Mod .... let's see how well he does.

You don't see a problem in pinning a poll that pushes your political agenda? Why should a post about Ron Paul be stickied? Because he's the guy YOU support?

You want to post a poll...post it. If people care, it will stay on the front page. If they don't, and it gets buried, then it gets buried.

And the irony of you calling us 'women', when you're the one crying and threatening to leave just because we won't give you special treatment.

Petre, we already know you're a raging hypocrite who is doing the same thing you complain about all the time, but man, we're finding out what a sensitive crybaby you can be as well.

TFK

TFK
12-22-2007, 11:12 AM
No one was preventing discussion of any kind ... that's what you all fail to see. Were I locking threads in general about Ron Paul to stop criticism you might have a point.

The thread was supposed be a well of knowledge on him and his campaign without me having to start multiple topics on new developements, that could be drawn on to create and debate any topic on him anyone so chose to which you can be sure I would have participated in .... one without getting convoluted and overun with questions and debate.

Unfortunately the maturity level around here couldn't handle not having the ability to piss in it.

More crap.

Locking a topic IS preventing discussion.

And your reasoning for locking the topic is asinine. You could keep all of your Ron Paul pushing in one topic, even if that topic allowed debate and responses. And you've already given us an opportunity to read one sided Pro Ron Paul propaganda by posting the link to the Ron Paul website in your signature.

Unfortunately your maturity level can't handle not having the ability to push your agenda without debate or question.

TFK

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 11:45 AM
Keep believing what you want TFK . You're shaping up to be the biggest baby in this forum and quite honestly I'm disappointed in you.

TFK
12-22-2007, 11:50 AM
Keep believing what you want TFK . You're shaping up to be the biggest baby in this forum and quite honestly I'm disappointed in you.

You're disappointed in me because I called you out on your bullshit and abuse of mod powers.

Where is the support for what you tried to do? I haven't seen any.

Trust me, my tin foil hat wearing friend, you're the one who's been made to look bad in this whole exchange, not me.

TFK

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 12:54 PM
You're disappointed in me because I called you out on your bullshit and abuse of mod powers.

Where is the support for what you tried to do? I haven't seen any.

Trust me, my tin foil hat wearing friend, you're the one who's been made to look bad in this whole exchange, not me.

TFK

Keep telling yourself that if you like . I find it sad that supposed MEN around here couldn't handle that. It was going to be a coherent source for debate and I was going to leave my opinions out of it.

And like I said ... I'll be happy to pass the Mod "POWER" torch to you my closeted racist friend. I'm sure you'd do real well and last a long time. (I seriously have to laugh when I read about the power of being a mod ... this is the mentality of someone that has no power in real life)

And you can say what you want , but I seriously have to ask myself , why I want to bother dealing with this level of sissified maturity. Unlike your kicking, screaming and crying "BULLSHIT" thread because you can't piss in one thread ... I have to seriously reflect on why I'd want to deal with people like you.

r o o s t e r
12-22-2007, 01:05 PM
You can relock your thread if I can have a "Ron Paul is a racist and accepts money from Neo-Nazis" thread that only I can post in.:warning:

:lol:

TFK
12-22-2007, 03:09 PM
Keep telling yourself that if you like . I find it sad that supposed MEN around here couldn't handle that. It was going to be a coherent source for debate and I was going to leave my opinions out of it.

And like I said ... I'll be happy to pass the Mod "POWER" torch to you my closeted racist friend. I'm sure you'd do real well and last a long time. (I seriously have to laugh when I read about the power of being a mod ... this is the mentality of someone that has no power in real life)

And you can say what you want , but I seriously have to ask myself , why I want to bother dealing with this level of sissified maturity. Unlike your kicking, screaming and crying "BULLSHIT" thread because you can't piss in one thread ... I have to seriously reflect on why I'd want to deal with people like you.

Why is it whenever someone is getting verbally manhandled by me in an online debate, all of a sudden I become a 'racist'?

Weak, Petre.....very weak.

You've just gone from looking like an ass, to looking like a desperate ass.

I'm not looking to be a Mod, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing that up, but if I were a Mod, I would only use my Mod powers to delete threads that were spam, like we see in the Tech Support Forum, and nothing else.

I sure as hell wouldn't use my powers to push any personal agendas I have.

Once again, I'll state, I have yet to see anyone on this board support your stance. That, combined with the sudden "You're a racist" and "You have no power in real life" nonsense you're suddenly spewing...well that speaks volumes.

Spin it anyway you like, my Tin Foil Hat wearing friend, but that's just the way it is.

TFK

Trplsec
12-22-2007, 03:17 PM
Keep telling yourself that if you like . I find it sad that supposed MEN around here couldn't handle that. It was going to be a coherent source for debate and I was going to leave my opinions out of it.

And like I said ... I'll be happy to pass the Mod "POWER" torch to you my closeted racist friend. I'm sure you'd do real well and last a long time. (I seriously have to laugh when I read about the power of being a mod ... this is the mentality of someone that has no power in real life)

And you can say what you want , but I seriously have to ask myself , why I want to bother dealing with this level of sissified maturity. Unlike your kicking, screaming and crying "BULLSHIT" thread because you can't piss in one thread ... I have to seriously reflect on why I'd want to deal with people like you.


Petre, you are seriously misguided on this one. There is nothing sissified about wanting a free and open discussion of all topics. The real baby in this situation is the guy that locked a thread in order to avoid people providing their feedback.

It seems to me that you are having real trouble dealing with opposing views about the status and standing of Ron Paul. Unfortunately the sharing of differing viewpoints, regardless of bias, is what keeps discussions interesting.

The reason you don't want to 'deal with people like us' is because you realize that you can't run roughshod over this group or this forum. Your opinion is just one of many. It is no better or worse than anyone else's. And it certainly doesn't deserve to be posted in a locked thread standing above retort.

Deal with it.

Trplsec
12-22-2007, 03:21 PM
Why is it whenever someone is getting verbally manhandled by me in an online debate, all of a sudden I become a 'racist'?

Weak, Petre.....very weak.

You've just gone from looking like an ass, to looking like a desperate ass.

I'm not looking to be a Mod, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing that up, but if I were a Mod, I would only use my Mod powers to delete threads that were spam, like we see in the Tech Support Forum, and nothing else.

I sure as hell wouldn't use my powers to push any personal agendas I have.

Once again, I'll state, I have yet to see anyone on this board support your stance. That, combined with the sudden "You're a racist" and "You have no power in real life" nonsense you're suddenly spewing...well that speaks volumes.

Spin it anyway you like, my Tin Foil Hat wearing friend, but that's just the way it is.

TFK

Amazing. I never thought Petre would resort to that thin last line of defense. He pulled the racist card in a discussion with TFK. Wow.

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 04:01 PM
Why is it whenever someone is getting verbally manhandled by me in an online debate, all of a sudden I become a 'racist'?

Weak, Petre.....very weak.

You've just gone from looking like an ass, to looking like a desperate ass.

I'm not looking to be a Mod, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing that up, but if I were a Mod, I would only use my Mod powers to delete threads that were spam, like we see in the Tech Support Forum, and nothing else.

I sure as hell wouldn't use my powers to push any personal agendas I have.

Once again, I'll state, I have yet to see anyone on this board support your stance. That, combined with the sudden "You're a racist" and "You have no power in real life" nonsense you're suddenly spewing...well that speaks volumes.

Spin it anyway you like, my Tin Foil Hat wearing friend, but that's just the way it is.

TFK

Hey buddy ... You sure aren't verbally manhandling anyone , in my mind you're acting like a girl.

I wear a tinfoil hat and you wear a white sheet.

That's no secret to anyone that's been around for a while. It's half the reason you were banned from that other board. :clap:

The difference between you and me is I stand up for what I believe in ... you hide your beliefs and call others names picking at straws while carrying one of the biggest rafters in your own eye. Just cause you have shut your mouth on that particular flaw in your character doesn't mean the leopard has changed it spots.

What ... did you think everyone forgot ?

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 04:04 PM
Amazing. I never thought Petre would resort to that thin last line of defense. He pulled the racist card in a discussion with TFK. Wow.
Hey ... it's a good quality for a Mod ! :clap:

He keeps bringing up tinfoil hats .... I can bring up his white sheet.

Or should I just let everyone else be a hypocrite while accusing me of being one ?

Like I said ... I'll support TFK as the new Mod and step away. He'd make a better one than me and he's obviously fit to judge.

Let's see how well he'd wield THE POWER! :lol:

TFK
12-22-2007, 04:21 PM
Hey buddy ... You sure aren't verbally manhandling anyone , in my mind you're acting like a girl.

I wear a tinfoil hat and you wear a white sheet.

That's no secret to anyone that's been around for a while. It's half the reason you were banned from that other board. :clap:

The difference between you and me is I stand up for what I believe in ... you hide your beliefs and call others names picking at straws while carrying one of the biggest rafters in your own eye. Just cause you have shut your mouth on that particular flaw in your character doesn't mean the leopard has changed it spots.

What ... did you think everyone forgot ?

Once again, as always, if you, or anyone else, can find anything I've ever said that is racist, on this, or any other board, feel free tp post it. But until you can, realize that you're just coming off as a desperate fool. And I've never been banned from any board for anything close to racism. You might want to check your facts before you embarass yourself again.

And I don't stand up for what I believe in? Me calling you out on your hypocrisy and abuse of Mod powers, that's standing up for what I believe in. You claim to be against censorship and all of the evil doings of the MSM, but then you try to do the same things you claim to be against.

You want to know the difference between you and me? You can call me a racist if you want, but you'll never be able to back that claim up. I call you a hypocrite, and all I need to do is point to this thread to back it up. I call you a Tin Foil Hat wearing fool, and I can point to countless conspiracy threads to back it up. I speak the truth, and all you can do is spit out baseless accusations in a sad attempt to distract from your hypocrisy being exposed.

This has been your lowest moment Petre. For your own sake, you should just admit you were wrong for locking the topic, apologize for making a baseless racism accusation, and move along, and hope this thing blows over, before you become an even bigger laughingstock then InI.

TFK

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 04:37 PM
Once again, as always, if you, or anyone else, can find anything I've ever said that is racist, on this, or any other board, feel free tp post it. But until you can, realize that you're just coming off as a desperate fool. And I've never been banned from any board for anything close to racism. You might want to check your facts before you embarass yourself again.

And I don't stand up for what I believe in? Me calling you out on your hypocrisy and abuse of Mod powers, that's standing up for what I believe in. You claim to be against censorship and all of the evil doings of the MSM, but then you try to do the same things you claim to be against.

You want to know the difference between you and me? You can call me a racist if you want, but you'll never be able to back that claim up. I call you a hypocrite, and all I need to do is point to this thread to back it up. I call you a Tin Foil Hat wearing fool, and I can point to countless conspiracy threads to back it up. I speak the truth, and all you can do is spit out baseless accusations in a sad attempt to distract from your hypocrisy being exposed.

This has been your lowest moment Petre. For your own sake, you should just admit you were wrong for locking the topic, apologize for making a baseless racism accusation, and move along, and hope this thing blows over, before you become an even bigger laughingstock then InI.

TFK

So if I stop talking about it ... how long before my tinfoil hat goes on the shelf. You should have a good Idea ... how long did it take to put that white sheet away ? :lol:

TFK
12-22-2007, 04:52 PM
So if I stop talking about it ... how long before my tinfoil hat goes on the shelf. You should have a good Idea ... how long did it take to put that white sheet away ? :lol:

Do you realize how retarded you look Petre?

Obviously not.

What a shame.

TFK

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 04:53 PM
Do you realize how retarded you look Petre?

Obviously not.

What a shame.

TFK
I'd imagine pretty retarded with that tinfoil you keep telling me I'm wearing .

What's wrong ... don't like your own medicine ?

TFK
12-22-2007, 05:03 PM
I'd imagine pretty retarded with that tinfoil you keep telling me I'm wearing .

What's wrong ... don't like your own medicine ?

What medicine? All you're doing is taking a bad situation and making it worse on yourself.

You looked bad when you created and locked the thread.

You looked worse when you complained about being called out on it.

And you hit rock bottom when you had to resort to claims of racism that nobody has ever been able to back up since they began.

Like I said, you want to claim I'm racist, back it up with some evidence. You want me to back up my claims of you being a Tin Foil Hat wearing conspiracy kook? I'm sure I can find a ton of posts to back me up on that, with little effort at all.

Seriously Petre, how much deeper are you gonna dig your hole?

TFK

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 05:36 PM
The white sheet medicine ... it's the antidote to you're tinfoil hat problem ... see .... you say tinfoil (11 times in this thread alone) , I say whitesheet.

And that board you have no idea you know the one that you never said anything " that is racist, on this, or any other board, feel free tp post it."

They're so sick of your ass they thought I was you posing this question and banned me in under 5 minutes ....:lol:

MAXBOXING.COM

Thurston Howell Posted Today, 09:51 AM

Why was that really nice guy known at fightbeat as TFK banned again ?
I can't remember ... huh.gif
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Big Germ Posted Today, 09:53 AM
As far as I know for being a racist dickhead.
-----------------

That was quick!

:lol:

Now ... should I gather some troops and have them come over and tell you why you're a sheet in the closet racist dickhead ?

I'll wear my best tinfoil hat just for the occassion. :cool:

TFK
12-22-2007, 05:48 PM
The white sheet medicine ... it's the antidote to you're tinfoil hat problem ... see .... you say tinfoil (11 times in this thread alone) , I say whitesheet.

And that board you have no idea you know the one that you never said anything " that is racist, on this, or any other board, feel free tp post it."

They're so sick of your ass they thought I was you posing this question and banned me in under 5 minutes ....:lol:

MAXBOXING.COM

Thurston Howell Posted Today, 09:51 AM

Why was that really nice guy known at fightbeat as TFK banned again ?
I can't remember ... huh.gif
============================
Big Germ Posted Today, 09:53 AM
As far as I know for being a racist dickhead.
-----------------

That was quick!

:lol:

Now ... should I gather some troops and have them come over and tell you why you're a sheet in the closet racist dickhead ?

I'll wear my best tinfoil hat just for the occassion. :cool:

I was banned from Max because I made a comment about Kitty, and Dobie cried about it. It had nothing to do with race.

Just like here, whenever I was verbally manhandling someone in an online debate, suddenly, I was a racist. And just like here, whenever I called someone out to prove it, nobody could. And, like here, Max has it's share of members who cry racism, but are too ignorant to realize that it is they who are the racists, not me.

We've been through this a million times, I'm shocked you would attempt it when everyone else has failed.

Besides, I don't even remember a 'Big Germ' when I posted there, so I don't know who he is to even speak on the subject. But if he, or any other member of Max wants to debate me on the topic, I'm not hard to find.

So therein is the difference. I can call you a Tin Foil Hat wearing kook, and I can back it up with your own words. You can call me a racist, and that's where it ends, because you can't provide a single bit of evidence to back up your claim.

Jesus Petre, I figured you'd be smart enough to learn from the mistakes of others, but I guess not.

TFK

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 05:59 PM
I was banned from Max because I made a comment about Kitty, and Dobie cried about it. It had nothing to do with race.

Just like here, whenever I was verbally manhandling someone in an online debate, suddenly, I was a racist. And just like here, whenever I called someone out to prove it, nobody could. And, like here, Max has it's share of members who cry racism, but are too ignorant to realize that it is they who are the racists, not me.

We've been through this a million times, I'm shocked you would attempt it when everyone else has failed.

Besides, I don't even remember a 'Big Germ' when I posted there, so I don't know who he is to even speak on the subject. But if he, or any other member of Max wants to debate me on the topic, I'm not hard to find.

So therein is the difference. I can call you a Tin Foil Hat wearing kook, and I can back it up with your own words. You can call me a racist, and that's where it ends, because you can't provide a single bit of evidence to back up your claim.

Jesus Petre, I figured you'd be smart enough to learn from the mistakes of others, but I guess not.

TFK
I bet there's a bunch that have a different version of those events as well as a different view of your history there.

Then of course there's history here which unfortunately is all wiped out but I know more than a few that used to frequent here that would also have a few words on it.

Having said that ....

I acquiece because quite honestly , this is beneath me. You may continue to call me any names you like for as long as you like.

As for me ... I submit , TFK is not a racist anymore. :clap:

TFK
12-22-2007, 06:03 PM
I bet there's a bunch that have a different version of those events as well as a different view of your history there.

Then of course there's history here which unfortunately is all wiped out but I know more than a few that used to frequent here that would also have a few words on it.

Having said that ....

I acquiece because quite honestly , this is beneath me. You may continue to call me any names you like for as long as you like.

As for me ... I submit , TFK is not a racist anymore. :clap:


You make an accusation, I ask for proof, and suddenly this is beneath you.

I think that says it all.


TFK

PetreTG
12-22-2007, 06:04 PM
You make an accusation, I ask for proof, and suddenly this is beneath you.

I think that says it all.


TFK

You should be the head of the ethics commity around here ! :clap:

http://libertyunbound.com/archive/2004_07/chambers-kkk.jpg

:lol:

TFK
12-22-2007, 06:09 PM
You should be the head of the ethics commity around here ! :clap:

http://libertyunbound.com/archive/2004_07/chambers-kkk.jpg

:lol:


I ask for proof, and you give me cartoons.

You, like everyone else who has tried this nonsense, have failed.


Look at what you've become, Petre. It's sad. Really.

I'm sure you'll reply with another cartoon, or a joke, or another claim that this is below you, or another accusation.....but what you won't reply with, is an example of me being a racist.

Because you can't.

TFK

Trplsec
12-23-2007, 02:33 AM
This thread went into the ridiculous fast as greased owl shit.


Petre resorting to posting opinions from another forum and TFK actually defending himself. Wow.


Sad.

TFK
12-23-2007, 12:07 PM
This thread went into the ridiculous fast as greased owl shit.


Petre resorting to posting opinions from another forum and TFK actually defending himself. Wow.


Sad.


Yup, all that mess, the trouble of him creating an account on Max, etc, just to take the attention away from the fact that he got called out for being a hypocrite, and then cried like a baby about it.

It was a sad, sad day for Petre.

TFK

PetreTG
12-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Shit happens when a racist tries to tell someone how to be moderate. :clap:

TFK
12-23-2007, 03:36 PM
Only an aging, paranoid, conspiracy believing nutjob would think so.

TFK

Andrew
12-24-2007, 03:31 AM
lol pathetic petre.

PetreTG
12-24-2007, 11:15 AM
What's even funnier is the Email I got ... I was reinstated at MaxBoxing (The Admin who did it apologized to me as did Eaner who runs the show there).... I WAS banned because they thought I was TFK who as I am told was banned for the exact reasons I stated .... a history of bad racial attitude.

The funniest thing is , the admin over their changed my very nicely put title to the thread ....

Why was that really nice guy known at Fightbeat as TFK banned again?

to

Why was that RACIST PEDOPHILE known at Fightbeat as TFK banned again?

:laughing:

This was done by a MOD there.

Why did I go there ? Because when I try to have a civil conversation with a prick who is name calling me names that do not even pertain to the arguement at hand , and tolerate it repeatedly while still trying to support my case , and he continues and further expands his criticsm to telling me how to moderate / be moderate with power ... the gloves come off and we must examine the person telling me how to be and also play by his rules.

In this case it's a guy who's been banned from another board (Where most all the members here left to go to) for being a racists and general jackass.

The KNOWN prick denies being banned on another board for that and challenges me for proof knowing full well his past transgressions here have all been deleted.

But there's plenty of memories of this nice guy at the other forum , where he's refered to as a racist dickhead , a worthless piece of shit , racist against people with a brain, I heasrd he hatyes peopl.e that are a different collor. (sic) and the one for all the forum to see basically summing it in a nutshell ... racist pedophile.

Now I don't believe all that per se .... but what does that tell me ? .... I've got a prick here calling me names , crying like a girl cause he couldn't take a shit in one informational thread that could have been used for all the ammo he'd have liked , telling me I'm a bad moderator and basically how I could be a good one but shouldn't be while consistently calling names that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic (as I fail to see why over 10 times the tinfoil hat reference was made in a thread complaining about a closed thread ... because there was no reason for it.)

Sorry ... I have to point out who's saying these things and give him a taste of his own medicine.

Trplsec
12-24-2007, 11:24 AM
What's even funnier is the Email I got ... I was reinstated at MaxBoxing (The Admin who did it apologized to me as did Eaner who runs the show there).... I WAS banned because they thought I was TFK who as I am told was banned for the exact reasons I stated .... a history of bad racial attitude.

The funniest thing is , the admin over their changed my very nicely put title to the thread ....

Why was that really nice guy known at Fightbeat as TFK banned again?

to

Why was that RACIST PEDOPHILE known at Fightbeat as TFK banned again?

:laughing:

This was done by a MOD there.

Why did I go there ? Because when I try to have a civil conversation with a prick who is name calling me names that do not even pertain to the arguement at hand , and tolerate it repeatedly while still trying to support my case , and he continues and further expands his criticsm to telling me how to moderate / be moderate with power ... the gloves come off and we must examine the person telling me how to be and also play by his rules.

In this case it's a guy who's been banned from another board (Where most all the members here left to go to) for being a racists and general jackass.

The KNOWN prick denies being banned on another board for that and challenges me for proof knowing full well his past transgressions here have all been deleted.

But there's plenty of memories of this nice guy at the other forum , where he's refered to as a racist dickhead , a worthless piece of shit , racist against people with a brain, I heasrd he hatyes peopl.e that are a different collor. (sic) and the one for all the forum to see basically summing it in a nutshell ... racist pedophile.

Now I don't believe all that per se .... but what does that tell me ? .... I've got a prick here calling me names , crying like a girl cause he couldn't take a shit in one informational thread that could have been used for all the ammo he'd have liked , telling me I'm a bad moderator and basically how I could be a good one but shouldn't be while consistently calling names that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic (as I fail to see why over 10 times the tinfoil hat reference was made in a thread complaining about a closed thread ... because there was no reason for it.)

Sorry ... I have to point out who's saying these things and give him a taste of his own medicine.


Petre, get over it. He called you a bad moderator because you used a tool only available to mods to lock a thread regarding your favorite candidate.

I'm with you on the idea that saying "abusing mod powers" gives way too much credit to moderating a freaking boxing forum. However, I agree that you should not be allowed to post a thread and not have it open for discussion.

Regarding the racist pedophile shit, I would just can that if I were you. The one thing I know with absolute certainty is that it easy to get labeled a racist if you express your opinions in a forum like this. Hell, I said Don Imus shouldn't have been fired, and Tap basically called me a racist. It's just too easy a term to throw around. And the easy usage is irresponsible.

You have always been better than that.

PetreTG
12-24-2007, 11:35 AM
Petre, get over it. He called you a bad moderator because you used a tool only available to mods to lock a thread regarding your favorite candidate.

I'm with you on the idea that saying "abusing mod powers" gives way too much credit to moderating a freaking boxing forum. However, I agree that you should not be allowed to post a thread and not have it open for discussion.

Regarding the racist pedophile shit, I would just can that if I were you. The one thing I know with absolute certainty is that it easy to get labeled a racist if you express your opinions in a forum like this. Hell, I said Don Imus shouldn't have been fired, and Tap basically called me a racist. It's just too easy a term to throw around. And the easy usage is irresponsible.

You have always been better than that.
You might notice I never had a problem with your arguement. I respect your point of view even if I don't agree with it and with your "vote" I opened the thread.

I made the thread and tried that experiment hoping to be surprised but expecting it to fail. I posted in the MOD forum I was going to do it.

As for using the term racist with TFK ... his history to anyone that's been around long enough is well known. Still I don't oftern go there. But as I stated above ... time and again the name calling was being done even though I'd already given in almost immediately. The tinfoil hat nonsense he kept spewing had far less to do with any current discussion then my racist slant on him. Why ... because anyone that can express those types of views has no business telling anyone how to be anything resembling moderation or decency. They need to fix themselves first.

I am done though , and I DO Apologize to anyone I've offended.

What this has taught me is that I'll be dealing with TFK much differently from now on.

TFK
12-24-2007, 11:54 AM
Do I have a history of people calling me a racist?

Yes.

Do I also have a history of asking those same people to point out any racist comments by me, and not a single person being able to do so?

Yes.

Like I said, to you, or anyone from Max, or to anyone from here who wants to call me a racist, all you have to do is back up your claim.

Not a single one of you has been able to do so.

People are quick to throw out racism claims, even when there is no racism at hand. It's an easy crutch when, as Petre showed, you're on the losing end of a debate. What better way to take the heat off of yourself, then by labeling someone else as a racist? Of course, as Petre found out, it doesn't work. He tried it, and he made a fool out of himself.

The funny part is, there is a lot of racist remarks made on this board by several other members, yet they rarely get called on it. But I get called a racist in spite of not taking part in that nonsense.

Also, I must be a pretty lousy white sumpremecist, considering I married a woman who isn't white.

Once again, I have yet to see anyone defend Petre here, in regards to his abuse of Mod powers, or his claims of racism. That speaks volumes.

As for Max, I got banned because Dobie didn't like me, because I made comments about his girl's disgusting tattoos. I also didn't kowtow to the 'clique' that runs the place, and anyone that's posted there can tell you, if you don't fall in line with King Dobie and Queen Kitty, you're quickly labeled a troublemaker, a troll...and yes, a racist. So of course you're gonna here Max members tell a different story, that's because they know their place, and know what having a differing opinion from the clique means.

So we can wind this thread down with a quick recap. Petre abused his mod powers...again... and got called out on it. He cried like a baby about it, and got called out on it. He made baseless claims of racism that he was unable to back up, and got called out on it. And he made a complete and utter fool of himself, and more then likely lost whatever dignity and respect he may have had in the eyes of the members of the forum in the process.

TFK

TFK
12-24-2007, 12:17 PM
Holy crap. I just read Petre's thread on Max. Dude, you are beyond pathetic.

Going over there and begging for help? From a bunch of people who probably weren't even members when I was a member? All because you got called out for abusing mod powers.

Unbelievably pathetic.

And this is my favorite...

Unfortunately , the other board crash and burns every few months and all the archives are lost or I'd have plenty of evidence there .

Like what? Plenty of evidence?

How sad is it that you've become a babbling, paranoid, bitter old man who's life must be so unsatisfying that he has to live in a fantasy world of holograms and New World Orders? How sad is it you have to go to another board to beg people for help in a fight you're losing badly? How sad is it that you have to claim you have 'plenty of evidence' of my 'racism' when everyone knows you don't have shit?

You know what, Petre, you might as well make Max your home and leave here. You fit right in over there.

TFK

PetreTG
12-24-2007, 01:03 PM
Typical TFK ... not an ounce of humility ... plenty of anger, hatred and name calling.

You might ask yourself , why so many people have felt this way about you, because maybe , just maybe , it's because of the things you've said.

If it were just one person , you might have a point. But it's not one ... it's many.

Either way , I'm done. You got your way 2 days ago about the closed thread , you can wipe your ass in it all day long.

Finally , you can be sure , no matter how many names you call me , I won't call you a racist again unless I hear it again myself. It's been a LONG time since I personally thought you said anything racial and everyone deserves a second chance.

TFK
12-24-2007, 02:12 PM
Typical TFK ... not an ounce of humility ... plenty of anger, hatred and name calling.

You might ask yourself , why so many people have felt this way about you, because maybe , just maybe , it's because of the things you've said.

If it were just one person , you might have a point. But it's not one ... it's many.

Either way , I'm done. You got your way 2 days ago about the closed thread , you can wipe your ass in it all day long.

Finally , you can be sure , no matter how many names you call me , I won't call you a racist again unless I hear it again myself. It's been a LONG time since I personally thought you said anything racial and everyone deserves a second chance.

It's been a long time since you heard me say anything racist? And what was it that I said?

And if you know anything about Max, you'd know why there are people commenting about me who weren't even members when I was posting there. They know their place, and they tow the company line.

And like the sheep you are, you swallow it whole.

TFK

60/40
12-26-2007, 01:45 PM
You might notice I never had a problem with your arguement. I respect your point of view even if I don't agree with it and with your "vote" I opened the thread.

I made the thread and tried that experiment hoping to be surprised but expecting it to fail. I posted in the MOD forum I was going to do it.

As for using the term racist with TFK ... his history to anyone that's been around long enough is well known. Still I don't oftern go there. But as I stated above ... time and again the name calling was being done even though I'd already given in almost immediately. The tinfoil hat nonsense he kept spewing had far less to do with any current discussion then my racist slant on him. Why ... because anyone that can express those types of views has no business telling anyone how to be anything resembling moderation or decency. They need to fix themselves first.

I am done though , and I DO Apologize to anyone I've offended.

What this has taught me is that I'll be dealing with TFK much differently from now on.
I have heard this for the last few years, but I have never seen anyone bring the proof to the table. If you have proof that TFK is a racist, show us. Post the links to the comments he made or SHUT THE FUCK UP about it. I would not have thought you would jump on this bandwagon Petre. Im dissapointed. I thought Higher of you than that.:doh:

Trplsec
12-26-2007, 02:52 PM
I have heard this for the last few years, but I have never seen anyone bring the proof to the table. If you have proof that TFK is a racist, show us. Post the links to the comments he made or SHUT THE FUCK UP about it. I would not have thought you would jump on this bandwagon Petre. Im dissapointed. I thought Higher of you than that.:doh:


And, let me add, that posting the thoughts from posters on another website ARE absolutely NOT proof that someone is racist.

Petre is acting like he found the smoking gun because he has people on another forum calling TFK a racist.

60/40
12-26-2007, 04:15 PM
And, let me add, that posting the thoughts from posters on another website ARE absolutely NOT proof that someone is racist.

Petre is acting like he found the smoking gun because he has people on another forum calling TFK a racist.
Exactly. This was a total bitch move on petres part.

ILLUMINATI
12-26-2007, 05:00 PM
I been reading the same thing for years...TFK is a RACIST...but never seen any evidence posted.....:dunno:

I posted at Maxboxing..and was around the same time TFK was there.....read Maxboxing elites.....call him racist..asshole...KKK member #1..etc..etc...but could not find any post of him being a racist...:dunno:


TFK = Racist....:dunno: haven't seen it...

TFK = Hopeless MMA nuthugger....YES...

Anthony
12-26-2007, 05:09 PM
I have never seen TFK make a racist remark.

Arben
12-26-2007, 05:35 PM
We're beating a dead horse now.

TFK
12-26-2007, 06:01 PM
Look guys, I appreciate the support, but there's no need for this to go on any further. Petre knows he was wrong on all counts. He'll just never admit it.

It's said, it's done, it's over.

And as far as the racism accusations, all you have to do is look at when they come. They always seem to pop up from a poster who is on the losing end of a debate with me, and usually in a discussion that has absolutely nothing to do with race.

So it is what it is.

TFK

Black Market Baby
12-26-2007, 06:15 PM
I read the first page and a half before realizing where this was going.

This is seriously ridiculous.

First, If Petre can lock or sticky threads about people he supports then I suggest each candidate be given the same chance. This of course will clutter the board. So I would have to propose that a politics forum be started, which will end up dying and being a waste of bandwidth that will be extremely less visited than TAAA. Therefore, no locking or stickying of your threads because of some "failed social experiment".

Second, this is a discussion board. Everyone here has the same ability to visit the same sites Petre can go to, there is really no reason to sticky very many things, except rules, temporary contests, etc. Polls and personal threads should not be protected as such, if it dies...it dies. If you get called out or "owned", then deal with it and stop crying.

Third, and lastly, I am quite surprised that Petre pulled the racist card.