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StingerKarl
12-27-2007, 11:19 PM
As some of you good folk here may know, I am a member of security at a high end "Gentleman's Club" club here in Houston, the great Bayou City.
We had a Christmas party last week, and all was going just great.
Terrific food (prime rib, ham, turkey) and a free house bar all spelled for a grand time.
That is, until another jealous boyfriend showed up.
He approached one of our girls in the parking lot, "How are you supposed to love me when you are sucking some guy's cock? We had something special! How can you marry me when you are giving your pussy away for money?"
"I love you you! Come here! Comne here damn you girl, you are my soulmate!"
I approached the kid, about 6 ft, pretty good build and he had been drinking.
"Sir, you are going to have to leave, now!", I said.
He turned on me and drew his left arm back as if he was going to sweep me with his elbow when I pointed and yelled, "The cops!"
He turned to his right and looked back and provided me with the opening I needed.
I jumped up and grabbed his head in a headlock with my left arm and forced him down, he was struggling, and very strong.
I put my right forearm behindhis head and pushed down with all I had, but the kid was rising up, forcing me up.
He pushed me off, and I went down, but jumped back up immediately, but he grabbed me by the head and pulled me tight against his chest, very strong guy and bigger than I.
I did the foirst thing that came to my survival insticts, I bit him, hard as I could on the right pectoral muscle.
He screamed like a bitch after two seconds, released his grip and then I unloaded on him.
A lead right to the left side of his face landed with sickening impact, a follow up left hook to the nose and then he froze in mid air, a follow up right sent him to the pavement, blood was everywhere, on hy hands and clothes, all over the garage.
When he was down I kicked him in the face for good measure, and several minutes later when the police and EMS came, he said I tried to kill him with a knife, which was totally untrue.
I just gave my statment and was released at the scene to RTW, but I don't know what became of this punk as Ginger was fired that evening for mixing her personal life with her job as a dancer, a definite conflict of interst if I ever saw one.
I am a bit sore now, particularly in the lower back.
Come on dsimon, give us some similar bouncing stories.
Karl
Ropadope
12-27-2007, 11:26 PM
Is Ginger her real name?
StingerKarl
12-27-2007, 11:30 PM
Is Ginger her real name?
No bro, not even close.
It is her "Stage Name."
Ropadope
12-27-2007, 11:33 PM
No bro, not even close.
It is her "Stage Name."
I'm surprised you didn't have to fight both of them. Isn't that how those situations usually work? I pictured some crazy chick on your back clawing your eyes out for hurting the man that she loves.
Anthony
12-27-2007, 11:33 PM
I approached the kid, about 6 ft, pretty good build
:lol:
I jumped up and grabbed his head in a headlock
:lol:
I bit him He screamed like a bitch
:lol:
StingerKarl
12-27-2007, 11:35 PM
I'm surprised you didn't have to fight both of them. Isn't that how those situations usually work? I pictured some crazy chick on your back clawing your eyes out for hurting the man that she loves.
Sorry, I didn't include the part where he pulled her hair and threw her to the parking lot.
My mistake, bro.
She is a petite thing, maybe 5 feet and a hundred pounds, very cute little gal.
Ropadope
12-27-2007, 11:39 PM
Sorry, I didn't include the part where he pulled her hair and threw her to the parking lot.
My mistake, bro.
She is a petite thing, maybe 5 feet and a hundred pounds, very cute little gal.
Sounds like you have the makings of good pulp fiction. Would you have to change stage names to protect the innocent? :dunno:
Hanzy
12-27-2007, 11:39 PM
That kid is about 6 feet and pretty strong you said as he pushed you off fairly easily. Glad you handled him Stinger! :clap:
But Steve Dave is 6'3 and considerably bigger and has legitimate boxing experience so I think you'd need to be at your best to beat Steve Dave on the street, Stinger.:cool:
Hanzy
12-27-2007, 11:40 PM
Sorry, I didn't include the part where he pulled her hair and threw her to the parking lot.
My mistake, bro.
She is a petite thing, maybe 5 feet and a hundred pounds, very cute little gal.
Sometimes these little girls need to be put in their place, ya know? :lol:
StingerKarl
12-27-2007, 11:45 PM
That kid is about 6 feet and pretty strong you said as he pushed you off fairly easily. Glad you handled him Stinger! :clap:
But Steve Dave is 6'3 and considerably bigger and has legitimate boxing experience so I think you'd need to be at your best to beat Steve Dave on the street, Stinger.:cool:
I would hate to meet SteveDave on the street, Hanzy.
It is very painful and lasting when you are pushing 48 in life or death situations with guys 20 or more years younger and bigger than you.
But that is what I do, that is how the bills get paid, and I am not complaining.
Ropadope
12-27-2007, 11:50 PM
I would hate to meet SteveDave on the street, Hanzy.
It is very painful and lasting when you are pushing 48 in life or death situations with guys 20 or more years younger and bigger than you.
But that is what I do, that is how the bills get paid, and I am not complaining.
That's why you should write fiction, Karl. The hard bolied private eye is old, but the hard boiled nudie bar bouncer could be a good character. Cat-and-mouse games with jealous BFs and dangerous pervs. Karl, there's an audience for this!
Joe King
12-27-2007, 11:57 PM
That's why you should write fiction, Karl. The hard bolied private eye is old, but the hard boiled nudie bar bouncer could be a good character. Cat-and-mouse games with jealous BFs and dangerous pervs. Karl, there's an audience for this!
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
StingerKarl
12-27-2007, 11:59 PM
Thank you.
I would like to meet stevdave on the street, just not in a fight.
My right hand is numb as I type this from that altercation.
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 12:40 AM
Ginger is 6' tall :dunno: Are you a bouncer at the tranny club?
StingerKarl
12-28-2007, 01:03 AM
:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
You said you have enough money to buy this website, correct?
If that is indeed the case, what is the hold up on you flying to Houston from San Diego for a relatively minisucle round trip amount and proving yourself here at my club?
Just you and I will take a trip to the parking lot to get some fresh air, ok?
We will just take a walk, no one else involved since you challenged me.
Karl
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 01:07 AM
You said you have enough money to buy this website, correct?
If that is indeed the case, what is the hold up on you flying to Houston from San Diego for a relatively minisucle round trip amount and proving yourself here at my club?
Just you and I will take a trip to the parking lot to get some fresh air, ok?
We will just take a walk, no one else involved since you challenged me.
Karl
Don't be absurd Stinger.:nono: Why would our buddy Godfather fly out to meet you while he's got a wife and several children who need him?
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 01:08 AM
You said you have enough money to buy this website, correct?
If that is indeed the case, what is the hold up on you flying to Houston from San Diego for a relatively minisucle round trip amount and proving yourself here at my club?
Just you and I will take a trip to the parking lot to get some fresh air, ok?
We will just take a walk, no one else involved since you challenged me.
Karl
What is stopping you from going to his place? You have several jobs :dunno: And you are the one who challenged him :nono:
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 01:14 AM
You said you have enough money to buy this website, correct?
If that is indeed the case, what is the hold up on you flying to Houston from San Diego for a relatively minisucle round trip amount and proving yourself here at my club?
Just you and I will take a trip to the parking lot to get some fresh air, ok?
We will just take a walk, no one else involved since you challenged me.
Karl
You know what?
I think you are seriously retarded, I'm sure of that now.
:popcorn:
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 01:14 AM
Don't be absurd Stinger.:nono: Why would our buddy Godfather fly out to meet you while he's got a wife and several children who need him?
Godfather offered him a chance since he has been stalking him and begging him to come to Houston, but the lolipop guild folded :dunno: So now he just makes these offers because he knows nothing will happen and he will do nothing to make it happen.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 01:15 AM
Did i say i had enough money to buy this place? I dont even know how much it costs. :lol:
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 01:15 AM
BTW Karl, your fighting skills will not mean anything if you try that in a Culiacán cantina, you'd get smoked for sure.
:popcorn:
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 01:20 AM
Seriously Karl...
Why do keep challenging people online to a fight? Telling stories of your fighting prowess?
I don't get it.
Are you so hard up to prove your mettle?
:dunno:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 01:21 AM
Just so everyone is aware, Stinger made an accussation. He said that i stalk him from thread to thread. I told him that all he had to do was prove this, and i will fly out to houston, rent the gym, even pay Karl's hospital fees afterwards if he could prove it. He never once brought it up again. Karl had his chance to fight me. He folded like a lawnchair when I made that chance a close reality. He is a spotted old man that needs to jump in order to place a 6 foot tall man or woman in a headlock.
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 01:22 AM
:lol:
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 01:33 AM
This is why Godfather doesn't really want to go to Houston, can't blame him though......anyone who bounces for these chicks probably got the aids :dunno:
http://usofacomputers.com/texas/home.asp
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 01:35 AM
As some of you good folk here may know, I am a member of security at a high end "Gentleman's Club" club here in Houston, the great Bayou City.
We had a Christmas party last week, and all was going just great.
Terrific food (prime rib, ham, turkey) and a free house bar all spelled for a grand time.
That is, until another jealous boyfriend showed up.
He approached one of our girls in the parking lot, "How are you supposed to love me when you are sucking some guy's cock? We had something special! How can you marry me when you are giving your pussy away for money?"
"I love you you! Come here! Comne here damn you girl, you are my soulmate!"
I approached the kid, about 6 ft, pretty good build and he had been drinking.
"Sir, you are going to have to leave, now!", I said.
He turned on me and drew his left arm back as if he was going to sweep me with his elbow when I pointed and yelled, "The cops!"
He turned to his right and looked back and provided me with the opening I needed.
I jumped up and grabbed his head in a headlock with my left arm and forced him down, he was struggling, and very strong.
I put my right forearm behindhis head and pushed down with all I had, but the kid was rising up, forcing me up.
He pushed me off, and I went down, but jumped back up immediately, but he grabbed me by the head and pulled me tight against his chest, very strong guy and bigger than I.
I did the foirst thing that came to my survival insticts, I bit him, hard as I could on the right pectoral muscle.
He screamed like a bitch after two seconds, released his grip and then I unloaded on him.
A lead right to the left side of his face landed with sickening impact, a follow up left hook to the nose and then he froze in mid air, a follow up right sent him to the pavement, blood was everywhere, on hy hands and clothes, all over the garage.
When he was down I kicked him in the face for good measure, and several minutes later when the police and EMS came, he said I tried to kill him with a knife, which was totally untrue.
I just gave my statment and was released at the scene to RTW, but I don't know what became of this punk as Ginger was fired that evening for mixing her personal life with her job as a dancer, a definite conflict of interst if I ever saw one.
I am a bit sore now, particularly in the lower back.
Come on dsimon, give us some similar bouncing stories.
Karl
dsimon writes:
Jesus christ!:lol: Just glad he was the one on the pavement bro! Isn't it the worse feeling when you try to "be nice and put a hold on" and the next thing you know the guy is acting like you tried to poke his eye out? :lol:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 01:40 AM
dsimon writes:
Jesus christ!:lol: Just glad he was the one on the pavement bro! Isn't it the worse feeling when you try to "be nice and put a hold on" and the next thing you know the guy is acting like you tried to poke his eye out? :lol:Karl shouldnt have touched him. The guy was outside in the parking lot. And that was his girl. And refuse to believe that Karl gave him one good kick for good measure and the cops just let him go.
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 01:48 AM
Karl shouldnt have touched him. The guy was outside in the parking lot. And that was his girl. And refuse to believe that Karl gave him one good kick for good measure and the cops just let him go.
dsimon writes:
Good point but it depends on the state. Texas is pretty libral that way... generally speaking. For example you can pursue a man who has stolen your property and shoot him in the back in Texas ane be within the law. In some states the parking lot is considered part of the property and in any event if you can show that you acted out of a believe that immanent harm would come to another and that there was logical reason for it, you might have to post bail but you won't go to jail:lol:.
Besides drunk guys who want to recue strippers is a freakin occopational hazard GD. I wasn't a bouncer for a strip club, I worked at a couple of other type places) but my wife was a stripper and believe you me.... many of those strippers boyfriends would show up liquored up and in no mood for their significant other to be dancing on the pole.:lol: And when that happens guess who has to resuce the damsel in distress?
Anthony
12-28-2007, 01:49 AM
dsimon writes:
Good point but it depends on the state. Texas is pretty libral that way... generally speaking. For example you can pursue a man who has stolen your property and shoot him in the back in Texas ane be within the law. In some states the parking lot is considered part of the property and in any event if you can show that you acted out of a believe that immanent harm would come to another and that there was logical reason for it, you might have to post bail but you won't go to jail:lol:.
Besides drunk guys who want to recue strippers is a freakin occopational hazard GD. I wasn't a bouncer for a strip club, I worked at a couple of other type places) but my wife was a stripper and believe you me.... many of those strippers boyfriends would show up liquored up and in no mood for their significant other to be dancing on the pole.:lol: And when that happens guess who has to resuce the damsel in distress?Did you ever bite someone when you werent getting your ass kicked? :lol:
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 01:52 AM
Did you ever bite someone when you werent getting your ass kicked? :lol:
This is one thing I'll have to back Karl up.
You use anything to gain an advantage, street fights have no rules.
Rubio MHS
12-28-2007, 01:53 AM
Oh, yeah? Well I'm a bouncer from Germany. Last night, the Klitschko brothers were hitting on this girl, and she had this 5'2" boyfriend (my bigger brother). They tried picking on him, so I kicked both their asses. True story.
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 02:00 AM
This is one thing I'll have to back Karl up.
You use anything to gain an advantage, street fights have no rules.
Not if you are winning, if you are getting your ass kicked, I could see that happening at the last ditch effort.....but that isn't how the "story" was told :nono:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:00 AM
This is one thing I'll have to back Karl up.
You use anything to gain an advantage, street fights have no rules.Read my post again and carefully. You can bite sure. But thats usually one of the last things you do, and i would have to getting my ass handed to me in order to pull a move like that. LOL at Karl biting the man in his pec. Thats as high as he could reach. :lol:
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 02:01 AM
I stand corrected, Godfather.
:lol:
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 02:02 AM
Not if you are winning, if you are getting your ass kicked, I could see that happening at the last ditch effort.....but that isn't how the "story" was told :nono:
You have a point.
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 02:04 AM
So was Karl trying to suck his nipple? WTF was Karl doing that close to a guys chest with his mouth :laughing:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:12 AM
Interesting that Karl constantly talked about how strong this guy was, but apparently, Karl was able to bite him and this guy just released without punching the shit out of Karl's face. :doh: Just everyone think about that for a second. You have a supposed drunk guy, who is strong as shit. Pushing karl around, and then, Karl bites him. He just lets go? and karl got off three punches on this guy? Would you just let go? I would be punching, scratching, kicking, biting back.
I call bullshit.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:12 AM
So was Karl trying to suck his nipple? WTF was Karl doing that close to a guys chest with his mouth :laughing:Well Karl said that the guy held his bald little head tight to his chest.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 02:13 AM
There's lots of good material here for gay jokes but I'll refrain.:lol:
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 02:14 AM
Well Karl said that the guy held his bald little head tight to his chest.
Why did he hold his head to his chest? Did he give him a noogie? :lol:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:15 AM
Why did he hold his head to his chest? Did he give him a noogie? :lol:Karl is rabid and wild, and needed to be held under control.
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 02:16 AM
Interesting that Karl constantly talked about how strong this guy was, but apparently, Karl was able to bite him and this guy just released without punching the shit out of Karl's face. :doh: Just everyone think about that for a second. You have a supposed drunk guy, who is strong as shit. Pushing karl around, and then, Karl bites him. He just lets go? and karl got off three punches on this guy? Would you just let go? I would be punching, scratching, kicking, biting back.
I call bullshit.
Is everyone strong to Karl? Awhile ago a skinny kid was manhandling him and he couldn't believe how strong he was too :doh:
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 02:18 AM
Karl is rabid and wild, and needed to be held under control.
The "strong drunk guy" should have pulled out his last 10 hairs and seen who the real "screamer" is :lol:
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 02:22 AM
http://fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=508568&postcount=67
I think Karl only fights people who are 6' :lol: Well, at least this story he made the guy out to be tougher :clap:
Rabid Kimba
12-28-2007, 02:27 AM
Good observations, fellas.
:bears: :lol:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:34 AM
http://fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=508568&postcount=67
I think Karl only fights people who are 6' :lol: Well, at least this story he made the guy out to be tougher :clap:If a guy is 5-8 and up, karl just rounds that shit up to 6 feet. Thats tall enough for him. :lol:
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 02:39 AM
If a guy is 5-8 and up, karl just rounds that shit up to 6 feet. Thats tall enough for him. :lol:
I'm thinking next time the 6' guy will be a linebacker :bears:
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 02:39 AM
Did you ever bite someone when you werent getting your ass kicked? :lol:
dsimon writes:
Riley Hawkins was to those in the know probably the most naturally talented Karate fighter of the 70's and without a doubt one of the most viscious and fearsome. He was shaped like a bowling ball, with arms the size of Popeyes and gigantic legs.... he was so fast that by the time you felt the pain and saw the ground he was just bringing his ridge hand back.
Riley was also one of those guys who was quiet and never said a nasty thing to anyone... truth being he probably just needed to look at you but thats another story for another time:lol:. Anyhow one day my friends father told me this story (he was a student of Riley's). He was talking about wrestling with his son (my friend) and what not when Riley overheard about how his son had started to put the old man in a few wrestling holds Riley was reputed to have said.. without so much as a second of hesitation "I would have bit the kids balls off."
Good enough for Riley is good enough for the Stinger:dunno: :lol: certainly good enoug for me. :lol:
Or as the poet who doesn't know it would say GD:
I will avoid you if I can
But if per chance
I fight yew
I certainly will Bite yew!!:lol:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:52 AM
dsimon writes:
Riley Hawkins was to those in the know probably the most naturally talented Karate fighter of the 70's and without a doubt one of the most viscious and fearsome. He was shaped like a bowling ball, with arms the size of Popeyes and gigantic legs.... he was so fast that by the time you felt the pain and saw the ground he was just bringing his ridge hand back.
Riley was also one of those guys who was quiet and never said a nasty thing to anyone... truth being he probably just needed to look at you but thats another story for another time:lol:. Anyhow one day my friends father told me this story (he was a student of Riley's). He was talking about wrestling with his son (my friend) and what not when Riley overheard about how his son had started to put the old man in a few wrestling holds Riley was reputed to have said.. without so much as a second of hesitation "I would have bit the kids balls off."
Good enough for Riley is good enough for the Stinger:dunno: :lol: certainly good enoug for me. :lol:
Or as the poet who doesn't know it would say GD:
I will avoid you if I can
But if per chance
I fight yew
I certainly will Bite yew!!:lol:I wont get into specifics about my opinions on the form Karate. I will just say this. If you are beating someone's ass and you bit them, you are a bitch. Whats the point of biting someone if you are winning? I think Karl was just hungry. Now stay out of this thread Dsimon. You dont know how to have any damn fun. :lol:
Rubio MHS
12-28-2007, 03:03 AM
I think I understand why Stinger Karl likes Tony Galento so much. Galento was short, untalented, fat and stupid. I guess Karl identifies with him.
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 03:05 AM
I wont get into specifics about my opinions on the form Karate. I will just say this. If you are beating someone's ass and you bit them, you are a bitch. Whats the point of biting someone if you are winning? I think Karl was just hungry. Now stay out of this thread Dsimon. You dont know how to have any damn fun. :lol:
dsimon writes:
:lol: Lol winning. Ive won a lot of fights.... I brag about these fights because all the fights I have won are the fights I have avoided. :tease: Ok enough reformed bouncing wisdom for the night... I know when I am not wanted.:dunno:
Hey seriously, didn't Mike Weaver, the heavyweight, get his start when he got into a fistfight at a bar, KO'ed the guy and found out later that the guy was the Army Ammy heavyweight champion?
Tyler Durden
12-28-2007, 03:06 AM
I think I understand why Stinger Karl likes Tony Galento so much. Galento was short, untalented, fat and stupid. I guess Karl identifies with him.
You forgot bald.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 03:07 AM
He turned on me and drew his left arm back as if he was going to sweep me with his elbow when I pointed and yelled, "The cops!"
Did he make that classic turn with the sound?
Karl: The Cops!
Six Foot Monster: *turns around* HUH
Karl: *bites man's tit*
Six Foot Monster: Yeeeeaaaaaaaaaoooooouch!!!!!!
Anthony
12-28-2007, 03:09 AM
dsimon writes:
:lol: Lol winning. Ive won a lot of fights.... I brag about these fights because all the fights I have won are the fights I have avoided. Thats the difference between people who can actually fight and cant "D" Those who can, dont talk about it. Those who cant, cant shut up about it.
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 03:18 AM
Thats the difference between people who can actually fight and cant "D" Those who can, dont talk about it. Those who cant, cant shut up about it.
dsimon writes:
Absolutely true.:bears:
I can't argue with that statement. But the next time someone cuts me off here and I lose it I might have to vent to my fellow fightbeat brothers... if that makes me less of a fighter I will deal with it because it is better than kicking the dog. :lol:
I almost got into it with two UPS guys BTW. :flip: Noble you hear that?!! One of them was Chinese so I don't know if that counts.:dunno: :lol:
Rubio MHS
12-28-2007, 03:59 AM
Did he make that classic turn with the sound?
Karl: The Cops!
Six Foot Monster: *turns around* HUH
Karl: *bites man's tit*
Six Foot Monster: Yeeeeaaaaaaaaaoooooouch!!!!!!:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :bears: :cheer:
FourHooks
12-28-2007, 05:05 AM
I'm just gonna add a :lol: for goood measure
dymipepel
12-28-2007, 08:21 AM
Yet another Karl Classic!
:bears: :bears:
You bit him? Did you pull his hair and scratch him with your nails, too?
Must've been a hell of a catfight.
TFK
Orthodox Crusader
12-28-2007, 10:15 AM
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Dam Karl, glad things worked out ok..
I have been in and around similar situations and it can easily turn very ugly, bottles broken on heads etc.. .
I always prefer to hold someone, choke or whatever than strikes cuz I'm afraid if I'd strike I'd get in trouble but out here.. (TX) it's prolly ok..
All these haters here man... I'm just glad it worked out for you..
As some of you good folk here may know, I am a member of security at a high end "Gentleman's Club" club here in Houston, the great Bayou City.
We had a Christmas party last week, and all was going just great.
Terrific food (prime rib, ham, turkey) and a free house bar all spelled for a grand time.
That is, until another jealous boyfriend showed up.
He approached one of our girls in the parking lot, "How are you supposed to love me when you are sucking some guy's cock? We had something special! How can you marry me when you are giving your pussy away for money?"
"I love you you! Come here! Comne here damn you girl, you are my soulmate!"
I approached the kid, about 6 ft, pretty good build and he had been drinking.
"Sir, you are going to have to leave, now!", I said.
He turned on me and drew his left arm back as if he was going to sweep me with his elbow when I pointed and yelled, "The cops!"
He turned to his right and looked back and provided me with the opening I needed.
I jumped up and grabbed his head in a headlock with my left arm and forced him down, he was struggling, and very strong.
I put my right forearm behindhis head and pushed down with all I had, but the kid was rising up, forcing me up.
He pushed me off, and I went down, but jumped back up immediately, but he grabbed me by the head and pulled me tight against his chest, very strong guy and bigger than I.
I did the foirst thing that came to my survival insticts, I bit him, hard as I could on the right pectoral muscle.
He screamed like a bitch after two seconds, released his grip and then I unloaded on him.
A lead right to the left side of his face landed with sickening impact, a follow up left hook to the nose and then he froze in mid air, a follow up right sent him to the pavement, blood was everywhere, on hy hands and clothes, all over the garage.
When he was down I kicked him in the face for good measure, and several minutes later when the police and EMS came, he said I tried to kill him with a knife, which was totally untrue.
I just gave my statment and was released at the scene to RTW, but I don't know what became of this punk as Ginger was fired that evening for mixing her personal life with her job as a dancer, a definite conflict of interst if I ever saw one.
I am a bit sore now, particularly in the lower back.
Come on dsimon, give us some similar bouncing stories.
Karl
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slystaff
12-28-2007, 11:24 AM
As some of you good folk here may know, I am a member of security at a high end "Gentleman's Club" club here in Houston, the great Bayou City.
We had a Christmas party last week, and all was going just great.
Terrific food (prime rib, ham, turkey) and a free house bar all spelled for a grand time.
That is, until another jealous boyfriend showed up.
He approached one of our girls in the parking lot, "How are you supposed to love me when you are sucking some guy's cock? We had something special! How can you marry me when you are giving your pussy away for money?"
"I love you you! Come here! Comne here damn you girl, you are my soulmate!"
I approached the kid, about 6 ft, pretty good build and he had been drinking.
"Sir, you are going to have to leave, now!", I said.
He turned on me and drew his left arm back as if he was going to sweep me with his elbow when I pointed and yelled, "The cops!"
He turned to his right and looked back and provided me with the opening I needed.
I jumped up and grabbed his head in a headlock with my left arm and forced him down, he was struggling, and very strong.
I put my right forearm behindhis head and pushed down with all I had, but the kid was rising up, forcing me up.
He pushed me off, and I went down, but jumped back up immediately, but he grabbed me by the head and pulled me tight against his chest, very strong guy and bigger than I.
I did the foirst thing that came to my survival insticts, I bit him, hard as I could on the right pectoral muscle.
He screamed like a bitch after two seconds, released his grip and then I unloaded on him.
A lead right to the left side of his face landed with sickening impact, a follow up left hook to the nose and then he froze in mid air, a follow up right sent him to the pavement, blood was everywhere, on hy hands and clothes, all over the garage.
When he was down I kicked him in the face for good measure, and several minutes later when the police and EMS came, he said I tried to kill him with a knife, which was totally untrue.
I just gave my statment and was released at the scene to RTW, but I don't know what became of this punk as Ginger was fired that evening for mixing her personal life with her job as a dancer, a definite conflict of interst if I ever saw one.
I am a bit sore now, particularly in the lower back.
Come on dsimon, give us some similar bouncing stories.
KarlVery descriptive story! :lol:
I tend to hate security guards, they tend to look for any excuse to wield their power. Not saying that YOU were not justified, from what you said it seemed necessary, but in most cases I wish someone would do a drive by on one of these security guard's asses!
Sounds like Karl works at the Blue Oyster bar.
StingerKarl
12-28-2007, 11:52 AM
Envy my brother LOK, and jealousy is what it is.
The thing is this; when people live vicariously through the deeds of other people, their response is to type trash like they have been typing here.
Not only me, but when other folks here post up stories of their own boxing or fighting experiences, the jealousy comes through from other posters that are safely hidden behind their computers, and would never even dream about getting into a real fight in the ring or on the street.
Dsimon exposed everyone here as never being in a real street fight by telling me that people that "romanticize" street fighting have never been in a serious street fight, and most likely never will.
There is no code of ethics, no glory, no John Wayne "Pow!" when you hit someone and they go out cold, there is just a struggle for life and death and how far someone wants to take it.
I don't wear a uniform, or carry a badge or a gun, and dealing with jilted boyfriends (or even jilted girlfriends) is just a fact of life if you work at an "Exotic Dancing" establishment.
The jilted, or over possesive girlfriends are actually more volatile than the boyfriends are.
Most guys leave when asked when you tell them you are going to call the police who are close by, but the girls are a different story alltogether, they never leave and require the assistance of the cops as you really can't do anything unless you are being attacked, and it has to be an extreme attack.
I've been kicked, scratched, and punched several times by girlfriends, and have had to call the police and have them escorted from the property, but I will never file charges on them, though.
They most always are arrested for disorderly conduct or public intoxication, anyway.
The bad ones are the "dominant" side of the relationship, and I have run into a few of them that look like they could go a few rounds with George Foreman.
There most often is high drama night after night after closing time, it's just a part of the racket, but we hardly ever have any trouble at all from the customers.
There have been only two instances where the guy got a lap dance and didn't have any money to pay the girl and she threw an ashtray at him, and one other time where a guy got on the stage, that was it.
whiskey
12-28-2007, 11:55 AM
The bad ones are the "dominant" side of the relationship, and I have run into a few of them that look like they could go a few rounds with George Foreman.
Yeck!
Buddy Rydell
12-28-2007, 12:08 PM
As some of you good folk here may know, I am a member of security at a high end "Gentleman's Club" club here in Houston, the great Bayou City.
We had a Christmas party last week, and all was going just great.
Terrific food (prime rib, ham, turkey) and a free house bar all spelled for a grand time.
That is, until another jealous boyfriend showed up.
He approached one of our girls in the parking lot, "How are you supposed to love me when you are sucking some guy's cock? We had something special! How can you marry me when you are giving your pussy away for money?"
"I love you you! Come here! Comne here damn you girl, you are my soulmate!"
I approached the kid, about 6 ft, pretty good build and he had been drinking.
"Sir, you are going to have to leave, now!", I said.
He turned on me and drew his left arm back as if he was going to sweep me with his elbow when I pointed and yelled, "The cops!"
He turned to his right and looked back and provided me with the opening I needed.
I jumped up and grabbed his head in a headlock with my left arm and forced him down, he was struggling, and very strong.
I put my right forearm behindhis head and pushed down with all I had, but the kid was rising up, forcing me up.
He pushed me off, and I went down, but jumped back up immediately, but he grabbed me by the head and pulled me tight against his chest, very strong guy and bigger than I.
I did the foirst thing that came to my survival insticts, I bit him, hard as I could on the right pectoral muscle.
He screamed like a bitch after two seconds, released his grip and then I unloaded on him.
A lead right to the left side of his face landed with sickening impact, a follow up left hook to the nose and then he froze in mid air, a follow up right sent him to the pavement, blood was everywhere, on hy hands and clothes, all over the garage.
When he was down I kicked him in the face for good measure, and several minutes later when the police and EMS came, he said I tried to kill him with a knife, which was totally untrue.
I just gave my statment and was released at the scene to RTW, but I don't know what became of this punk as Ginger was fired that evening for mixing her personal life with her job as a dancer, a definite conflict of interst if I ever saw one.
I am a bit sore now, particularly in the lower back.
Come on dsimon, give us some similar bouncing stories.
Karl
Meh, I bounced at a club in Kingston for a short while. My shoulder had been dislocated earlier that week and I had to get this guy out of the club. I grabbed him and started heading for the door. The guy bit me on the side of my neck, and the other bouncer at the door just stood there and froze!
So I managed to get him out the door and got him to stop biting my neck by jamming my thumb in his eye. Shit happens.
Then I said, "Fuck this", quit, and never went back. It's not worth getting chump change AND getting chomped! Bouncing sucks!:lol:
dymipepel
12-28-2007, 12:09 PM
Karl, why do you have to do these two-bit gigs in low-class joints like River Oak?
It would seem that an accomplished boxing writer, outstanding amateur, sparring bag and Juan Diaz' paid mouthpiece, such as yourself, wouldn't have to resort to low-paying job of security guard at a nudie joint....:dunno:
Envy my brother LOK, and jealousy is what it is.
The thing is this; when people live vicariously through the deeds of other people, their response is to type trash like they have been typing here.
Not only me, but when other folks here post up stories of their own boxing or fighting experiences, the jealousy comes through from other posters that are safely hidden behind their computers, and would never even dream about getting into a real fight in the ring or on the street.
Dsimon exposed everyone here as never being in a real street fight by telling me that people that "romanticize" street fighting have never been in a serious street fight, and most likely never will.
More like Napoleon Complex on your part.
Who would be envious or jealous that someone gets into fights? That's retarded. But I guess you're too insecure and short to understand.
That's ok. You just keep telling us about your 'fights' and challenging people to travel cross country and fight over an E-Beef, if that's what makes you feel good about yourself.
TFK
Buddy Rydell
12-28-2007, 12:13 PM
Thank you.
I would like to meet stevdave on the street, just not in a fight.
My right hand is numb as I type this from that altercation.
Get it checked. It might be broken.:nono:
StingerKarl
12-28-2007, 12:23 PM
Karl, why do you have to do these two-bit gigs in low-class joints like River Oak?
It would seem that an accomplished boxing writer, outstanding amateur, sparring bag and Juan Diaz' paid mouthpiece, such as yourself, wouldn't have to resort to low-paying job of security guard at a nudie joint....:dunno:
The pay is really very good bro, and there are some fringe benefits as you can imagine.
I probably won't be there a whole lot longer anyway as the second hand smoke is starting to affect me.
Some nights there are private parties that go on all night, like tonight.
I come in at 10 and get to work until 6 AM.
Club closes at 2 AM, and then the folks do what they do with the girls, I don't get involved in that end, I just stay at the desk in the front letting whoever is supposed to come in and whoever is supposed to leave out and watch tv.
My hand is just numb and skinned up a lot, thanks for asking bro.
Arben
12-28-2007, 12:30 PM
You don't get wrist problems from this shit?
That's what I get for not knowing how to turn over a punch, I guess.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 12:32 PM
Stinger my man, there's something in your story that I don't get. I recall you saying a while back that you were practiced not only in boxing but also in Judo. I would figure that you should not have had any trouble grounding this intoxicated kid and keeping him down since Judo is entirely about takedowns. How did you lose your grip on him and let him up to his feet?
PetreTG
12-28-2007, 12:34 PM
True story ... I was in a fight once with a guy that decided to bite me when I had him in a headlock. We're going back about 20 years ago when biting was really considered a bitch move akin to pulling a guys hair (sorry Karl , not saying it wasn't necessary in your case)
I was pretty high strung back then and it was easy to really piss me off and when I was , it would get real ugly as turning my anger off was much harder than turning it on...
When the guy bit me , it had a maddening affect and I swear I went insane with anger , at which point I went from harmless pushing, punching and headlock type fighting to wanting to crush the guys skull in.
Not to dramatize this or anything , the fight ended with my buds pulling me off him , with me trying to knock all his teeth out with puches to his face while he was on the ground. Knocked two of his teeth out and broke his jaw , needed 12 stitches in my hand to close the gashes from his teeth that I tried to feed him for biting me , he ended up in the hospital and I ended up in jail.
Fortunately he started the fight and there were plenty of witnesses , so I got off with a suspended sentence for assault ... lucky it didn't turn into manslaughter.
IMO Karl is lucky the guy didn't react the same way.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 12:38 PM
Anybody notice that not a single fightbeat member has ever lost a fight? :lol:
Arben
12-28-2007, 12:46 PM
Yeah, two guys got into a fight during a pick up game of basketball, and knowing me, I always need a front row seat.
The tiny dude really laid it onto the big guy. It was like 5'5 165 against 6'2 210. Eventually, the tiny guy was over the big guy pounding him out, and I finally decided to break it up. I pull the little guy off him, and I see the big dude sit up, take one chomp that missed...It didn't register to me what he was doing. He takes another bite and gets him square into his right buttcheek. I make the stupid reaction to pull the little guy away, which only made things worse as the big guy was clamped in.
The little guy screams, the big guy gets up and starts talking shit. The little guy looks at me holding him back with puppy dog eyes like a kid wanting a new toy. So I step aside and gave him a look as if to say, "He deserves it now," and proceed to watch this little dude pummel and eventually KO this big dude right on center court.
One of only two very glorious moments I've seen in a street fight.
I've never seen such poise, skill, and ability to take a punch in a street fight.
The little dude is a friend, and he was trained in some sort of karate with a very respectable belt level before ankle and knee problems forced him to stop.
Arben
12-28-2007, 12:48 PM
Anybody notice that not a single fightbeat member has ever lost a fight? :lol:
I have.
No shame in that.
Trplsec
12-28-2007, 12:57 PM
You guys are unreal. Karl opens up and finally relays a story to us from his normal day to day life, and you bozos tease him about it. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
PetreTG
12-28-2007, 01:01 PM
Anybody notice that not a single fightbeat member has ever lost a fight? :lol:
I can certainly give you a few examples of "fights" I lost , that didn't have any biting involved in them.
StingerKarl
12-28-2007, 01:03 PM
Stinger my man, there's something in your story that I don't get. I recall you saying a while back that you were practiced not only in boxing but also in Judo. I would figure that you should not have had any trouble grounding this intoxicated kid and keeping him down since Judo is entirely about takedowns. How did you lose your grip on him and let him up to his feet?
It's one thing doing it in a controlled gym situation, another thing entirely on doing it when it is for real.
The kid was as strong as a damn bull, and big.
I did put him down and held him there for several minutes.
When you have the head you have control and I had him locked up pretty good eventually.
I know of plenty of guys, damn good tournament fighters who have been seriously fucked up in the street, one of them, black belt Jack Minshew was killed about 20 years or so in Galveston by a guy with a blade.
It is two different worlds, just like being a boxer in a streetfight is.
What's with you guys and headlocks? That's like the worst move to use in a fight.
TFK
osfan
12-28-2007, 01:06 PM
This one isnt bad, but I like Rabid's story better.
Trplsec
12-28-2007, 01:07 PM
What's with you guys and headlocks? That's like the worst move to use in a fight.
TFK
Well, sure it doesn't compare to the bite, but it's not bad.
Well, sure it doesn't compare to the bite, but it's not bad.
Biting is a sissy move, but using a headlock is just dumb, especially in a standing position. If you can't fight yourself out of a headlock, you shouldn't be getting into fights in the first place.
TFK
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 01:14 PM
dsimon writes:
I almost got into it with two UPS guys BTW. :flip: Noble you hear that?!! One of them was Chinese so I don't know if that counts.:dunno: :lol:
If you had just signed for the package in a timely manner they would have been on their way with no incident. :nono:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 01:16 PM
StingerKarl is a real American Hero and you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. :nono:
meetthefeebles
12-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Biting is a sissy move, but using a headlock is just dumb, especially in a standing position. If you can't fight yourself out of a headlock, you shouldn't be getting into fights in the first place.
TFK
Is it? In the street fights I've been unfortunate enough to get involved in, ANYTHING at all is fair game. Finesse and 'rules' count for shit- if I have to bite some guy(s) who is trying to kick the fuck out of me because it was the best option available to me at the time, then I would do it without qualm or hesitation.
I agree with everything else though- headlocks are the bastion of school children and people performing 'noogies'.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Anybody notice that not a single fightbeat member has ever lost a fight? :lol:I have had my ass kicked before and i have studied Martial arts since i was 5. Everyone gets their ass kicked one time or another. Its part of life. And i dont envy people who have been in street fights. Whats great about that? I hated every fight i was in except competitions. I dont fear the loud talkers. They cant do shit. And the sad part about all of this Karl is that even with all your stories and all your loud talking, the only thing that comes to my mind about you is that you bit some dude's boobie. :lol:
meetthefeebles
12-28-2007, 01:17 PM
I have.
No shame in that.
Ditto
And the sad part about all of this Karl is that even with all your stories and all your loud talking, the only thing that comes to my mind about you is that you bit some dude's boobie. :lol:
Post of the day.
TFK
meetthefeebles
12-28-2007, 01:19 PM
I have had my ass kicked before and i have studied Martial arts since i was 5. Everyone gets their ass kicked one time or another. Its part of life. And i dont envy people who have been in street fights. Whats great about that? I hated every fight i was in except competitions. I dont fear the loud talkers. They cant do shit. And the sad part about all of this Karl is that even with all your stories and all your loud talking, the only thing that comes to my mind about you is that you bit some dude's boobie. :lol:
100% Agreed
As my old man used to tell me:
"it's the quiet one's you have to be wary of..."
Arben
12-28-2007, 01:22 PM
I envy people who have never been in fights.
lb 4 lb
12-28-2007, 01:32 PM
Yeah, two guys got into a fight during a pick up game of basketball, and knowing me, I always need a front row seat.
The tiny dude really laid it onto the big guy. It was like 5'5 165 against 6'2 210. Eventually, the tiny guy was over the big guy pounding him out, and I finally decided to break it up. I pull the little guy off him, and I see the big dude sit up, take one chomp that missed...It didn't register to me what he was doing. He takes another bite and gets him square into his right buttcheek. I make the stupid reaction to pull the little guy away, which only made things worse as the big guy was clamped in.
The little guy screams, the big guy gets up and starts talking shit. The little guy looks at me holding him back with puppy dog eyes like a kid wanting a new toy. So I step aside and gave him a look as if to say, "He deserves it now," and proceed to watch this little dude pummel and eventually KO this big dude right on center court.
One of only two very glorious moments I've seen in a street fight.
I've never seen such poise, skill, and ability to take a punch in a street fight.
The little dude is a friend, and he was trained in some sort of karate with a very respectable belt level before ankle and knee problems forced him to stop.I'd like to hear the other one since you told this one so well.
lb 4 lb
12-28-2007, 01:33 PM
Biting is a sissy move, but using a headlock is just dumb, especially in a standing position. If you can't fight yourself out of a headlock, you shouldn't be getting into fights in the first place.
TFKAgreed, I would never put someone in a head lock because it exposes you to getting bit or having your balls pulled off.
lb 4 lb
12-28-2007, 01:35 PM
I envy people who have never been in fights.You shouldn't. Most of them are pussies who got punked or bitched their way out of them.
Would you rather be a girlyman?
PetreTG
12-28-2007, 01:39 PM
90% of fights end up in a head lock on the ground. Anyone that says differently has never been in a fight. Street fights are not boxing. Most fights start with harmless pushing back and forth and progress into neither wanting to give ground and finally they end up on the ground. The headlock/choke with or without punching usually comes next or kicking while on your back.
Anyone that cannot manuever in and out of a headlock/choke as well as apply some form of one effectively will get their ass handed to them 9 out of 10 times in a one on one street fight.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 01:40 PM
I also have no problems with biting. IF you are getting your ass kicked. But i will never start a fight biting. It would literally have to me my second to last resort. Last being a groin attack. I just cant believe that Karl bit this man in order to get out of a headlock. Thats crazy. But whatever.
lb 4 lb
12-28-2007, 01:47 PM
90% of fights end up in a head lock on the ground. Anyone that says differently has never been in a fight. Street fights are not boxing. Most fights start with harmless pushing back and forth and progress into neither wanting to give ground and finally they end up on the ground. The headlock/choke with or without punching usually comes next or kicking while on your back.
Anyone that cannot manuever in and out of a headlock/choke as well as apply some form of one effectively will get their ass handed to them 9 out of 10 times in a one on one street fight.I disagree with both of your statements. I've had fights where I didn't end up in headlocks and in the 3 latest fights only one of them ended up on the ground, (with me using the guys on rushing momentum to flip him over). I've also seen lots of fights that didn't go to the ground. Still I agree a lot do, but I wouldn't say it's 90%.
I also have no problems with biting. IF you are getting your ass kicked. But i will never start a fight biting. It would literally have to me my second to last resort. Last being a groin attack. I just cant believe that Karl bit this man in order to get out of a headlock. Thats crazy. But whatever.I would never bite someone, unless absolutely necessary. Who knows what kind of disease you could wind up with.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 01:52 PM
Well if world class fighters like Tyson and Golota will bite to get an edge then it can't be a really bad thing on the street when your health is at stake.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 01:53 PM
I have had my ass kicked before and i have studied Martial arts since i was 5. Everyone gets their ass kicked one time or another. Its part of life. And i dont envy people who have been in street fights. Whats great about that? I hated every fight i was in except competitions. I dont fear the loud talkers. They cant do shit. And the sad part about all of this Karl is that even with all your stories and all your loud talking, the only thing that comes to my mind about you is that you bit some dude's boobie. :lol:
Let's hear the stories about when you got your ass kicked.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 01:56 PM
You shouldn't. Most of them are pussies who got punked or bitched their way out of them.
Would you rather be a girlyman?
More like sensible people who don't feel a need to prove anything on the street. The people who get into streetfights are usually jealous boyfriends and drunks.:lol:
Real fighting is reserved in amateur or professional combat where most people are trained to fight as opposed to the street where beating up an average guy doesn't mean sh*t.
meetthefeebles
12-28-2007, 01:57 PM
I also have no problems with biting. IF you are getting your ass kicked. But i will never start a fight biting. It would literally have to me my second to last resort. Last being a groin attack. I just cant believe that Karl bit this man in order to get out of a headlock. Thats crazy. But whatever.
Really?
You obviously fight with considerable scruple...I would have no qualm in starting an attack in a street fight, especially if I'm outnumbered, by kneeing or hoofing someone in the groin. This is something that I was taught by numerous sensei when I was a child learning karate. :dunno:
meetthefeebles
12-28-2007, 01:58 PM
You shouldn't. Most of them are pussies who got punked or bitched their way out of them.
Would you rather be a girlyman?
:shit: Nonsense
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 01:58 PM
I disagree with both of your statements. I've had fights where I didn't end up in headlocks and in the 3 latest fights only one of them ended up on the ground, (with me using the guys on rushing momentum to flip him over). I've also seen lots of fights that didn't go to the ground. Still I agree a lot do, but I wouldn't say it's 90%.
I would never bite someone, unless absolutely necessary. Who knows what kind of disease you could wind up with.
You ever fought a world class wrestler or Jiu Jitsu fighter on the street?
60/40
12-28-2007, 02:03 PM
Hanzy, I have lost 2 fights in my life. One to my older brother and one to my step dad. I was very young and STUPID. I try my best not to fight, but if you have to. I dont care what you have to do to win, just win. I have pushed my fingers into a guys eye sockets, I have no problem giving someone a nut shot in the first hit of a fight. If there is a man standing in front of me with the intent to do harm to me, I will do whatever comes to my mind first. I guess thats the army in me to win at all costs. But to each there own.
Good Job Karl. If the guy had me in a headlock I would have bit the fucker too.:clap:
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 02:03 PM
dsimon writes;
Biting to try to chomp somoene is a lot different than biting to get loose from a hold. And you guys have to keep in mind the danger one is in when there is no one else around.... you could be on the ground and a car load of the other guy's friends could pull in. The guy could pull a blade and stick it in you while he has your head in his arm. Yu could be choked out and stomped to death if the guy is angry. So it is easy to second guess Karl but if you know the danger you are in you would do anything to get out of being held in a situation in a parking lot.
I never want anyone to get a hold on me if i have to fight and will prevent it at all costs. And keep in mind that as a bouncer you are initially giving a lot up to the guy because you are trying to restrain him, not take him out. Most guys I worked with when I was bouncing would try to get the guy's head controlled in some form or other. If your Ju Jitsu is really superb and yu know how to get to the guy's flank you can apply an arm hold... but you have to be really good and if you mess up yu can get caught with a punch as you play with the arm.
Regarding Hanzy's comment about Karl's Judo. Judo works well but it is initially tough to apply with a guy who has decent balance and is strong. It is why Antonio Geezac beat all the Japanese Judo guys in the 1964 Olympics and why the Gracies have a tough time with wrestlers. Any sort of sprawl or low positioning makes judo tough to apply. Before Judo became a seperate art from Ju Jutsu when a guy sprawled out one would work on his limbs and in Atemi Waza (hits) to set up the technique.
Judo is a great art to fight with but like all arts it has some weaknesses. One weakness is that when you are trying to get the guy controlled in the grapple he has a window of opportunity there. This is usually the time when Judo guys get sliced up with a knife when this happens. Once a Judo guy has the hands controlled and can enter (irimi) that is when flips, chokes, arm bars, etc can start to work for the judo guy.
meetthefeebles
12-28-2007, 02:06 PM
Hanzy, I have lost 2 fights in my life. One to my older brother and one to my step dad. I was very young and STUPID. I try my best not to fight, but if you have to. I dont care what you have to do to win, just win. I have pushed my fingers into a guys eye sockets, I have no problem giving someone a nut shot in the first hit of a fight. If there is a man standing in front of me with the intent to do harm to me, I will do whatever comes to my mind first. I guess thats the army in me to win at all costs. But to each there own.
Good Job Karl. If the guy had me in a headlock I would have bit the fucker too.:clap:
:bears:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:06 PM
Really?
You obviously fight with considerable scruple...I would have no qualm in starting an attack in a street fight, especially if I'm outnumbered, by kneeing or hoofing someone in the groin. This is something that I was taught by numerous sensei when I was a child learning karate. :dunno:Well im not going into my beef with Karate, but usually all martial arts in General teach a groin attack. Except TKD. But even tho they teach it, i really wouldnt use it first. If you start that shit in a street fight, then all of a sudden its an all out nut attack on both ends. Nah for me, i would try and keep it clean until it HAD to get nasty. But sometimes shit gets nasty so...
monkeystyle
12-28-2007, 02:08 PM
I've been bit 3 different times in fights. One motherfucker was bitting me so hard, he bit though a thick sweater I was wearing, I couldn't believe it.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:10 PM
Im sorry, but if the only way fighter (such as karl) can get out of a drunk man's front headlock is to bite, i question the man's skill. thats really all im saying. If he had to bite than fine. Im just suprised he had to.
monkeystyle
12-28-2007, 02:11 PM
How old is karl? Maybe he's not in his prime anymore, and had to do what he had to do?
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 02:11 PM
Hanzy, I have lost 2 fights in my life. One to my older brother and one to my step dad. I was very young and STUPID. I try my best not to fight, but if you have to. I dont care what you have to do to win, just win. I have pushed my fingers into a guys eye sockets, I have no problem giving someone a nut shot in the first hit of a fight. If there is a man standing in front of me with the intent to do harm to me, I will do whatever comes to my mind first. I guess thats the army in me to win at all costs. But to each there own.
Good Job Karl. If the guy had me in a headlock I would have bit the fucker too.:clap:
Agreed 60/40. You resort to whatever necessary to win. Although I think even if you had a machette, you couldn't beat steve dave. Steve also would've taken both your brother and your step dad at the same time.
Arben
12-28-2007, 02:13 PM
I'd like to hear the other one since you told this one so well.
One block over from me, there are lots of bars all along the avenue. Me and a friend used to sit out by there when we had nothing better to do.
So one night, a fight breaks out. It was 2 on 2. 2 guys were the same size, one was big and one was small. The "small" guy was a little bit smaller than me, the two "average" guys were bigger than me and the "biggest" guy was just plain huge.
It started with one average guy taking on the big guy, and the other average guy taking on the small guy. No clean punches were landed, and it was a pretty shitty fight overall, but there were four bars within fifty feet, so a very large crowd gathered. Eventually, people from another bar, a pizza place and a diner gathered around as well. There was probably about 200 people around.
Soon, the small guy started running and stumbling away from the average guy that he was paired up with. Everyone was rolling because he tripped over a garbage bag. Things slowed down and we thought the fight was over.
Then the two average sized dudes began to go at it and the fight spilled over into the middle of the street. Since the two average dudes were going at it (pretty shitty, but some action), the small guy was paired off with the big guy. Everyone was glued to the two of them and the crowd got pretty loud with anticipation.
The big guy comes up, misses with a jab but lands a right hand.
Down goes the little guy.
The crowd begins to scream and cheer.
The little guy gets up, and they're both squared up. Everyone is waiting for this guy to really get beaten up.
He unleashes a hard right hand just around the big dude's guard and drops him hard right in the middle of the street.
The crowd went fucking ballistic. It was so cool. They eventually stormed into the street and treated the guy like he just won the superbowl.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:15 PM
How old is karl? Maybe he's not in his prime anymore, and had to do what he had to do?he is 64 but is a young 64
meetthefeebles
12-28-2007, 02:19 PM
Im sorry, but if the only way fighter (such as karl) can get out of a drunk man's front headlock is to bite, i question the man's skill. thats really all im saying. If he had to bite than fine. Im just suprised he had to.
I'm with you on this: biting should not be any trained fighter' method of choice.
However, I was responding to the suggestion that biting is for sissies. Per se, I cannot agree with that.
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:28 PM
I'm with you on this: biting should not be any trained fighter' method of choice.
However, I was responding to the suggestion that biting is for sissies. Per se, I cannot agree with that.Yeah bitting aint for sissies. I bite my food every day.
90% of fights end up in a head lock on the ground.
Then I guess 90% of the people fighting have absolutely no clue what they're doing.
All I know is, I'm not gonna use a headlock in a fight, and anytime a headlock has been used against me, I've gotten out of it pretty easily.
TFK
HairysonFord
12-28-2007, 02:35 PM
Anybody who says they have only lost two fights in their life has either had very few fights or is a liar.
I've had hundreds of fights. Won most of them, but got my ass kicked too.
I come from a different generation. Because the second that someone starts fighting dirty - bite, groin kick, etc., - that puts the fight on a different level. It's no longer a fight, it is survival, and time for me to pull out my little derringer and shoot the sombitch. As long as they keep it clean, fight clean, they fight dirty, kill the bastard.
:old: :old:
Anthony
12-28-2007, 02:42 PM
I come from a different generation. Because the second that someone starts fighting dirty - bite, groin kick, etc., - that puts the fight on a different level. It's no longer a fight, it is survival, and time for me to pull out my little derringer and shoot the sombitch. As long as they keep it clean, fight clean, they fight dirty, kill the bastard.
:old: :old:Exactly. Its not even a fight anymore. Thats what I said. From then on you are just attacking nuts and biting, you might have kill someone. Its not a different Gen its just different fighting styles Im 26 and i think like you.
monkeystyle
12-28-2007, 02:49 PM
he is 64 but is a young 64
:eeeek:
Shit, I'd say he did pretty damn good then. Go ahead Grandpa!!! :clap:
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 02:52 PM
Then I guess 90% of the people fighting have absolutely no clue what they're doing.
All I know is, I'm not gonna use a headlock in a fight, and anytime a headlock has been used against me, I've gotten out of it pretty easily.
TFK
dsimon writes:
Thats about the average. Unfortunately it does not mean they can't hurt you. And there are guys who know what they are doing who fight to look like they do not know what they are doing.
HairysonFord
12-28-2007, 02:58 PM
Exactly. Its not even a fight anymore. Thats what I said. From then on you are just attacking nuts and biting, you might have kill someone. Its not a different Gen its just different fighting styles Im 26 and i think like you.
You have just destroyed one of my long held beliefs on your age group.
There is at least one of you with common sense! :bears:
biting is fine IMO.. in fact someone is trying to harm me.. anything goes..
one day I hope to meet up with Hanzy and i'll sodomize him
Trplsec
12-28-2007, 03:03 PM
Anybody who says they have only lost two fights in their life has either had very few fights or is a liar.
I've had hundreds of fights. Won most of them, but got my ass kicked too.
I come from a different generation. Because the second that someone starts fighting dirty - bite, groin kick, etc., - that puts the fight on a different level. It's no longer a fight, it is survival, and time for me to pull out my little derringer and shoot the sombitch. As long as they keep it clean, fight clean, they fight dirty, kill the bastard.
:old: :old:
I'm with you Hairy. I've had plenty of fights in my 43 years of existence. I've lost too many to count. I have two brothers who are within 2 year age-wise. We are all in the 6'4"-6'6" range and 215-230 lbs. Despite being siblings, we've had some brawls that would be PPV worthy complete with broken noses, broken jaw, split lips, knocked-out teeth and general pain and misery. I've never been in a fight that compares in violence to those with my bros.
The funny thing is that I've been involved in only one fight since I turned 30 and I felt ashamed afterwards that I let it go far enough to become physical, because it wasn't a life or death type situation.
I dont like to fight. I try to make people see that we can be calm about things and violence is not the way.
cuz if it goes that way.. I'll bite your f'n nuts off
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 03:17 PM
I'd like to get into more fights but I'm afraid of getting arrested. Then I might have to really bite somebodys nuts off, Shawshank style. :nono:
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:17 PM
biting is fine IMO.. in fact someone is trying to harm me.. anything goes..
one day I hope to meet up with Hanzy and i'll sodomize him
I think I have a picture of that. Hold on!
PetreTG
12-28-2007, 03:18 PM
dsimon writes:
Thats about the average. Unfortunately it does not mean they can't hurt you. And there are guys who know what they are doing who fight to look like they do not know what they are doing.
Indeed , head locks / chokes are the more common than kicks by a mile. Anyone that says they can get out of any choke hold easily hasn't been in any real fights. Street fights are not boxing . I've won as many fights back in the day with a choke as I've won with a punch. Hell it's a lot easier.
Most street fights have a lot more in common with wrestling than they'll ever have with boxing.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:19 PM
I'd like to get into more fights but I'm afraid of getting arrested. Then I might have to really bite somebodys nuts off, Shawshank style. :nono:
You wouldn't be hoping to get into more fights if you actually fought a real legitimate fighter just once, you sh*t talker.:tease:
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 03:20 PM
Anybody who says they have only lost two fights in their life has either had very few fights or is a liar.
I've had hundreds of fights. Won most of them, but got my ass kicked too.
I come from a different generation. Because the second that someone starts fighting dirty - bite, groin kick, etc., - that puts the fight on a different level. It's no longer a fight, it is survival, and time for me to pull out my little derringer and shoot the sombitch. As long as they keep it clean, fight clean, they fight dirty, kill the bastard.
:old: :old:
dsimon writes:
thats because you like to fight Hairy. I know guys like you and generally when I frequent a place that has guys like you around I let them run into each other and do what they like to do and stay out of the way. A guy like you may do something subtle like bump into me. What do I do in that situation? well knowing full well that a guy like you likes to fight and i don't I buy you a drink and apologize. I do anything else I can to avoid a fight, because I don't like to fight, clean or otherwise.
At this point 99% of you fight likers become my buddy which is fine by me. Sometimes you will even tell me "you know I was fixin to kick your ass" and I laugh and say I am glad I bought you a drink.
Now the way a guy like me thinks is:
At this point if I am dealing with the 1% that still wants to fight well guess what? I am about 250 pounds and a while not a muscle head, I look pretty imposing when I have to.... I am confidant in my abilites and project that so if you still want to fight me...... I am figuring that there are a couple of possabilites> You have something up your sleeve.... you are challenging a 250 pound guy who is confidant and who has tried very hard to apologize to you, do you want to kill me? what is the source of your absolute confidance? Or, you really are very good and recognize another guy who has something up his sleeve and really want to try your hand.
Now either way at that point you are a great danger to me. So at this point I feel like I have the right to take you out. In a court of law I would say so much: "Your honor, members of the jury, after pleading with this guy not to fight, after buying him a drink and apologiing to him, I figured that when he still wanted to do me harm, he had marked me as a victim and I couldn't let my friends and family down and be victimized in a confrontation where somoene had obviously set it up so they had the upper hand." I would then ask them to picture the aricle in the paper the next day as I was in a coma in the hospital because the guy had a knife he was planning on using all along, or the guy had some buddies who were outside and ready to stomp on my head, or the guy had a really good right hand that he had caught me with and my head had hit the ground really hard...
Then I ask them if under the circumstances they would not have hit the guy first and made sure he wasn't a threat anymore. Point being that some of us don't like to fight and look at fighting as an absolute last resort and are not willing to give somoene the chance to victimie us because we do not believe in biting, gouging, etc except as a last resort. Fuck that shit! once you antagonie me enough to fight you best bet I will make sure you can't lay a hand on me! Biting, gouging, breaking something on you... I don't care you ain't touching me, grabbing me, and if you do hit me My shot will be to take you out, not to knock you out. You may even KO me, but just know that if you do the shot I caught you with will break your Zyphoide process or smash your nose so hard that reconstructing your nose will be like putting Humpty Dumpty back together.
Just be aware you are better off fighting someone who wants a KO and frowns down on hitting to the groin.... not me I am desperate.
Most of the best martial artists that I know carry a piece for this same reason. If somoene is coming for them, they probably know the master's skill and mean to take them out. If I do lose my temper like i did against those two UPS guys then I take responsability for that and would rather take an ass whipping from them (it would have been in front of my family in this case) than fight. Knowing this I find/found a way to control my temper in this type of situation.
PetreTG
12-28-2007, 03:22 PM
I've yet to bite someone , but I do admit I grabbed a handful of this burnouts hair in highschool and punched him in the face after he tried to kick me.
If a guy ever tried to fish hook me , I'd bite their fingers off.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:22 PM
I dont like to fight. I try to make people see that we can be calm about things and violence is not the way.
cuz if it goes that way.. I'll bite your f'n nuts off
Me too! :clap: I'd stick my teeth into a man's penis right on the foreskin and rip it right off.:cool:
:eeeek:
Me too! :clap: I'd stick my teeth into a man's penis right on the foreskin and rip it right off.:cool:
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:24 PM
:eeeek:
You ever tried that LOK?
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:25 PM
If my son's life was on the line, I'd go so far as to eat another man's penis raw.
Trplsec
12-28-2007, 03:26 PM
If my son's life was on the line, I'd go so far as to eat another man's penis raw.
As if you need that kind of motivation. I'm thinking availability would be enough motivation for you.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:28 PM
As if you need that kind of motivation. I'm thinking availability would be enough motivation for you.
:crafty: I'd bite all your dicks off just for self pleasure! Especially LOK's 25 foot cock!
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 03:30 PM
Indeed , head locks / chokes are the more common than kicks by a mile. Anyone that says they can get out of any choke hold easily hasn't been in any real fights. Street fights are not boxing . I've won as many fights back in the day with a choke as I've won with a punch. Hell it's a lot easier.
Most street fights have a lot more in common with wrestling than they'll ever have with boxing.
dsimon writes:
Chokes are great. If you know how to use them they take very little force. One of the nice things about judo is that is developed set ups for chokes that did not involve breaking a guy's neck. In a lot of the older Ju Jutsu stuff the chokes are designed so that they use compression breaks as they choke out.
It scares me that a lot of these dangerous chokes, like the guillitine choke for example, are common knowledge on the streets.
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 03:31 PM
biting is fine IMO.. in fact someone is trying to harm me.. anything goes..
one day I hope to meet up with Hanzy and i'll sodomize him
dsimon writes:
And then, naturally buy him a curry.:lol:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 03:32 PM
You wouldn't be hoping to get into more fights if you actually fought a real legitimate fighter just once, you sh*t talker.:tease:
I would rip your nuts off so fast Hanzy!! I wouldn't even have to call Steve_Dave in for backup. :nono:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 03:34 PM
dsimon writes:
And then, naturally buy him a curry.:lol:
DSimon. You need to tell me what these UPS guys did to piss you off so badly. :dunno:
PetreTG
12-28-2007, 03:37 PM
dsimon writes:
Chokes are great. If you know how to use them they take very little force. One of the nice things about judo is that is developed set ups for chokes that did not involve breaking a guy's neck. In a lot of the older Ju Jutsu stuff the chokes are designed so that they use compression breaks as they choke out.
It scares me that a lot of these dangerous chokes, like the guillitine choke for example, are common knowledge on the streets.
True. Chokes are not the realm of kids play anymore , but on the same token , most fights are more chest pounding than anything. Being that , you aren't looking to kill or seriously hurt anyone as much as just trying to control them.
What I learned a long time ago was how to effectively get out of or prevent a choke or headlock through counter movement before .... or use of pressure points once in a headlock. The biggest key to fighting is keeping your wits about you ... than a properly placed thumb say , under the chin, is all it takes to get a guy to release even the deepest choke or headlock.
As for the guillotine ??? A guy has me in one of those and I deploy the Ole Monkey Grip maneuver on his balls ... no shame.
StingerKarl
12-28-2007, 03:38 PM
Thanks for that advice, dsimon.
I think that it may be more than coincidence these altercations are happening at closing gtime when the nightly take is probably being counted.
It's happened before, a couple of years ago from what I understand, everyone was robbed at gunpoint there by a few guys.
This gang was caught, however.
Going to keep even more aware of my surroundings from now on.
monkeystyle
12-28-2007, 03:40 PM
We're all too old to be street fighting anyways.. I don't have anything to prove anymore :old:
Trplsec
12-28-2007, 03:41 PM
We're all too old to be street fighting anyways.. I don't have anything to prove anymore :old:
Exactly.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:42 PM
I would rip your nuts off so fast Hanzy!! I wouldn't even have to call Steve_Dave in for backup. :nono:
You ain't got no real training you bitch. You just work a regular job and talk sh*t on a message board, pretending to be a badass. Now stop fronting and be real.:tease:
dsimon3387
12-28-2007, 03:44 PM
DSimon. You need to tell me what these UPS guys did to piss you off so badly. :dunno:
dsimon writes:
I was on Haight street and I pulled into an empty parking space. Just as I pull in a UPS truck blocks me in and I knew my wife was going to be only a minute, as she was buying a few burritos for dinner for me and the kids. I ask the guy nicely to move up a bit so we can get out in a minute and he tells me I have enough room to back out. I tell him all he has to do is move up a little bit and that it is dangerous for me to back out onto Haight street. He ignores me and goes in the store. I follow him in and find his supervisor (?) the Chinese guy coming out.
I am a bit pissed now and tell ask the Chinese guy to move and tell him his friend is being a dick. The Chinese guy says it is his responsability and proceeds to ignore my request. I curse both of them out and call the police. The wife and kids are in the car now. They, the UPS truck try to high tail it. I pursue them to get their license number and they try to get away, I run a stop sign but get the lisense plate number. I called it into UPS, and hope they give the guys shit. When I cursed out the two of them they had done more than enough to deserve it as I see it.:lol:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 03:44 PM
You ain't got no real training you bitch. You just work a regular job and talk sh*t on a message board, pretending to be a badass. Now stop fronting and be real.:tease:
I got a little trick up my sleeve Hanzy. It's called the "Keyboard Stomp". I would pull it out especially for you. :kick:
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:45 PM
We're all too old to be street fighting anyways.. I don't have anything to prove anymore :old:
When did you ever prove anything? If you really wanted to prove something, wouldn't you do it in a place where people can actually fight like say in a professional circuit?:laughing:
PetreTG
12-28-2007, 03:46 PM
We're all too old to be street fighting anyways.. I don't have anything to prove anymore :old:
I agree ... haven't been in a fight in atleast 10 years.
I'll use every trick in the book to defend myself now (as best I can under my current circumstances) but It takes a lot more for me to get pissed off these days.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:46 PM
I got a little trick up my sleeve Hanzy. It's called the "Keyboard Stomp". I would pull it out especially for you. :kick:
:lol: :blobbox:
60/40
12-28-2007, 03:48 PM
Agreed 60/40. You resort to whatever necessary to win. Although I think even if you had a machette, you couldn't beat steve dave. Steve also would've taken both your brother and your step dad at the same time.
:clap: Your probably right about that Hanzy. But do steve a favor and close your lips. His nuts are cold.
Man my older brother was 5 years older than me and I was only 15. Its a big difference now.:lol:
My step dad is a 20 year vet that was a 18Bravo SF Soldier. I dont think steve would want to mess with him even though he is old now. I wouldnt, he dont fight fair.:lol:
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:49 PM
:clap: Your probably right about that Hanzy. But do steve a favor and close your lips. His nuts are cold.
Man my older brother was 5 years older than me and I was only 15. Its a big difference now.:lol:
My step dad is a 20 year vet that was a 18Bravo SF Soldier. I dont think steve would want to mess with him even though he is old now. I wouldnt, he dont fight fair.:lol:
Steve don't fight fair neither. Plus your step dad is a fairy who only likes picking on undersized teens. Steve would rape him.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Might wanna change the title of this thread to "Official ego-stroking thread"
60/40
12-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Anybody who says they have only lost two fights in their life has either had very few fights or is a liar.
I've had hundreds of fights. Won most of them, but got my ass kicked too.
I come from a different generation. Because the second that someone starts fighting dirty - bite, groin kick, etc., - that puts the fight on a different level. It's no longer a fight, it is survival, and time for me to pull out my little derringer and shoot the sombitch. As long as they keep it clean, fight clean, they fight dirty, kill the bastard.
:old: :old:
But your from a different time Hairy. Back then kids fought ALL the time. Today, these little bastards will shoot you if you dont end it quick.
60/40
12-28-2007, 03:52 PM
biting is fine IMO.. in fact someone is trying to harm me.. anything goes..
one day I hope to meet up with Hanzy and i'll sodomize him
:bears::lol:
I'd like to box all you bitches that act tough..
I know Dismon and Karl are both good guys and relaly are tough guys.. but some of you little bitches are keyboard warriors that need to be whupped
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 03:54 PM
dsimon writes:
I was on Haight street and I pulled into an empty parking space. Just as I pull in a UPS truck blocks me in and I knew my wife was going to be only a minute, as she was buying a few burritos for dinner for me and the kids. I ask the guy nicely to move up a bit so we can get out in a minute and he tells me I have enough room to back out. I tell him all he has to do is move up a little bit and that it is dangerous for me to back out onto Haight street. He ignores me and goes in the store. I follow him in and find his supervisor (?) the Chinese guy coming out.
I am a bit pissed now and tell ask the Chinese guy to move and tell him his friend is being a dick. The Chinese guy says it is his responsability and proceeds to ignore my request. I curse both of them out and call the police. The wife and kids are in the car now. They, the UPS truck try to high tail it. I pursue them to get their license number and they try to get away, I run a stop sign but get the lisense plate number. I called it into UPS, and hope they give the guys shit. When I cursed out the two of them they had done more than enough to deserve it as I see it.:lol:
:lol: Yeah, that was kind of dickish. I would have moved for you DSimon. I've blocked plenty of people in out of neccesity but would always move if they asked.
Most supervisors there are like that by the way. Sorry to say but I doubt you got anywhere by calling it in to UPS, especially if it was actually a supervisor. All they care about is the clock. If these guys gained a minute in time by blocking you in, they did what they were trained to do.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:56 PM
The only guy who can actually fight on here is steve dave. Steve would rape anybody on here although a steve/Stinger fight would be a good one on the street. LOK is past his best otherwise he might have given steve a decent round or two before getting raped.
Noble and 60/40? Pussies! Steve would stick it up their butts.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 03:59 PM
I'd like to box all you bitches that act tough..
I know Dismon and Karl are both good guys and relaly are tough guys.. but some of you little bitches are keyboard warriors that need to be whupped
I'd double underhook your ass through the ground, LOK the Crock! :tease: 180lb wuss, I'd throw your white ass up over my head, press you 20 times like a bitch and throw you through the wall.:lol:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 04:00 PM
The only guy who can actually fight on here is steve dave. Steve would rape anybody on here although a steve/Stinger fight would be a good one on the street. LOK is past his best otherwise he might have given steve a decent round or two before getting raped.
Noble and 60/40? Pussies! Steve would stick it up their butts.
I would whisper a few words into steve_dave's ear and he would light you up like an old Christmas tree Hanzy.
I don't need fists with my stunning powers of manipulation. :nono:
you are sadly mistakin Hanzy..
I'm just getting into my prime, probably in the best shape of my life and as strong if not stronger than I have ever been.
I'd have my way with you and your boy toy steve gay at the same time
I'd double underhook your ass through the ground, LOK the Crock! :tease: 180lb wuss, I'd throw your white ass up over my head, press you 20 times like a bitch and throw you through the wall.:lol:
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 04:01 PM
I would whisper a few words into steve_dave's ear and he would light you up like an old Christmas tree Hanzy.
I don't need fists with my stunning powers of manipulation. :nono:
Steve would rape you and then he'd have sex with your corpse Noble till you've rotted away. Then he'd f*ck your skeleton.:clap:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Steve would rape you and then he'd have sex with your corpse Noble till you've rotted away. Then he'd f*ck your skeleton.:clap:
That would be pretty fucked up! :doh:
slystaff
12-28-2007, 04:03 PM
LOK can fight. Of that I have no doubt. His first Watermelon video showcased his movement. He couldn't handle my two fisted assault though...
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 04:03 PM
you are sadly mistakin Hanzy..
I'm just getting into my prime, probably in the best shape of my life and as strong if not stronger than I have ever been.
I'd have my way with you and your boy toy steve gay at the same time
:lol: Nobody would ever have their way with 300lbs of Punjab dynamite or the 6'3, 220lbs of Calgarian Killing Machine! :clap: And steve would have hot manly sex with you and then he'd leave you for me and I'd finish you off.:cool:
60/40
12-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Steve don't fight fair neither. Plus your step dad is a fairy who only likes picking on undersized teens. Steve would rape him.
You just say he doesn tfight fair because of how he treats you. I cant help it that steve holds your face in the pillow as he rams your colon and has your hands behind your back. You two need to talk about this if it is really bothering you that bad. Dont be scared Hanzy. If steve really loves you, he will listen.
LMAO!!!
You guys are fat asses Hanzy
I'm in better shape than anyone you have ever met.. I garuntee that and I'd knock you bitches out and then shoot cum on your faces!!!
:lol: Nobody would ever have their way with 300lbs of Punjab dynamite or the 6'3, 220lbs of Calgarian Killing Machine! :clap: And steve would have hot manly sex with you and then he'd leave you for me and I'd finish you off.:cool:
60/40
12-28-2007, 04:07 PM
The only guy who can actually fight on here is steve dave. Steve would rape anybody on here although a steve/Stinger fight would be a good one on the street. LOK is past his best otherwise he might have given steve a decent round or two before getting raped.
Noble and 60/40? Pussies! Steve would stick it up their butts.
Just because steve has done this to you, does not mean he does it to everyone. You are special to him Hanzy. :dunno:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 04:08 PM
You just say he doesn tfight fair because of how he treats you. I cant help it that steve holds your face in the pillow as he rams your colon and has your hands behind your back. You two need to talk about this if it is really bothering you that bad. Dont be scared Hanzy. If steve really loves you, he will listen.
steve_dave sometimes goes into drunken rages and takes it out on Hanzy. It's sad in a way but Hanzy always loves him in the morning.
Get yourself to a shelter Hanzy..........before it's too late.
60/40
12-28-2007, 04:09 PM
you are sadly mistakin Hanzy..
I'm just getting into my prime, probably in the best shape of my life and as strong if not stronger than I have ever been.
I'd have my way with you and your boy toy steve gay at the same time
:laughing: Your boy toy.
monkeystyle
12-28-2007, 04:09 PM
When did you ever prove anything? If you really wanted to prove something, wouldn't you do it in a place where people can actually fight like say in a professional circuit?:laughing:
Damn arabs... I mean like, you remember when you were younger and someone would be like "I bet you can't beat so and so up!" and you would go and fight because of that shit? Or if someone just says something stupid to you, and you would start some shit? that's the type of shit I'm talking about.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 04:10 PM
LMAO!!!
You guys are fat asses Hanzy
I'm in better shape than anyone you have ever met.. I garuntee that and I'd knock you bitches out and then shoot cum on your faces!!!
I'd pin you to the ground, put you in a choke and then see if you can box off your back then.:lol: Or better yet I'd grab both your legs, lift you in the air and slam you down on your skull and f*ck you in the ass.:cool:
monkeystyle
12-28-2007, 04:11 PM
I'd like to box all you bitches that act tough..
I know Dismon and Karl are both good guys and relaly are tough guys.. but some of you little bitches are keyboard warriors that need to be whupped
I might take you up on that offer, we're in the same area I think :crafty:
:lol:
I'd choke your fat ass out! you'd be gassed in a sec.. I don't need to "box" hanzy.. I'll beat you on the ground then I'll force Steve dave to have man sex with you until you scream
I'd pin you to the ground, put you in a choke and then see if you can box off your back then.:lol: Or better yet I'd grab both your legs, lift you in the air and slam you down on your skull and f*ck you in the ass.:cool:
60/40
12-28-2007, 04:12 PM
steve_dave sometimes goes into drunken rages and takes it out on Hanzy. It's sad in a way but Hanzy always loves him in the morning.
Get yourself to a shelter Hanzy..........before it's too late.
I think its already to late for him Noble. I think Steve has "fucked him stupid."
The funny thing is that it didnt take much fucking to get hanzy there. :lol:
60/40
12-28-2007, 04:14 PM
:lol:
I'd choke your fat ass out! you'd be gassed in a sec.. I don't need to "box" hanzy.. I'll beat you on the ground then I'll force Steve dave to have man sex with you until you scream
Lok, Hanzys ass is so streached out there would be NO screams.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 04:14 PM
When LOK went to a seminar, he saw Royce Gracie up close and chickened out of a fight when Royce said to him "Bring it on, no rules!" LOK wanted to box instead and knew Royce would stick it in LOK's ass if LOK wanted to fight for real.:lol: LOK only calls out non-fighters or bitches. Guys like him just talk sh*t on message boards acting like they own the place cause it's the only place where they can act tough.:laughing:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 04:15 PM
steve_dave where are you?
We want your thoughts on Hanzy insisting you fuck everybody up the ass. Do you think it's warranted. Is it part of your normal fighting strategy? :dunno:
60.. it's funny to me that Hanzy thinks cuz he is 5'2 and 400lbs that he is billy bad ass:lol:
Lok, Hanzys ass is so streached out there would be NO screams.
Hanzy
12-28-2007, 04:15 PM
:lol:
I'd choke your fat ass out! you'd be gassed in a sec.. I don't need to "box" hanzy.. I'll beat you on the ground then I'll force Steve dave to have man sex with you until you scream
You ain't got no wrestling or submission background LOK. You're just a boxer. Royce Gracie already proved that to you when he called you out to a no rules fight. And you didn't want none.:tease:
Nobleart
12-28-2007, 04:16 PM
LMAO!!!
You guys are fat asses Hanzy
I'm in better shape than anyone you have ever met.. I garuntee that and I'd knock you bitches out and then shoot cum on your faces!!!
Similar question for you LOK. Is this your normal finishing move?
you are an ignorant idiot Hanzy..
where I last trained was a full MMA gym.. not boxing
You ain't got no wrestling or submission background LOK. You're just a boxer. Royce Gracie already proved that to you when he called you out to a no rules fight. And you didn't want none.:tease:
ArturoGatti
12-28-2007, 04:17 PM
One block over from me, there are lots of bars all along the avenue. Me and a friend used to sit out by there when we had nothing better to do.
So one night, a fight breaks out. It was 2 on 2. 2 guys were the same size, one was big and one was small. The "small" guy was a little bit smaller than me, the two "average" guys were bigger than me and the "biggest" guy was just plain huge.
It started with one average guy taking on the big guy, and the other average guy taking on the small guy. No clean punches were landed, and it was a pretty shitty fight overall, but there were four bars within fifty feet, so a very large crowd gathered. Eventually, people from another bar, a pizza place and a diner gathered around as well. There was probably about 200 people around.
Soon, the small guy started running and stumbling away from the average guy that he was paired up with. Everyone was rolling because he tripped over a garbage bag. Things slowed down and we thought the fight was over.
Then the two average sized dudes began to go at it and the fight spilled over into the middle of the street. Since the two average dudes were going at it (pretty shitty, but some action), the small guy was paired off with the big guy. Everyone was glued to the two of them and the crowd got pretty loud with anticipation.
The big guy comes up, misses with a jab but lands a right hand.
Down goes the little guy.
The crowd begins to scream and cheer.
The little guy gets up, and they're both squared up. Everyone is waiting for this guy to really get beaten up.
He unleashes a hard right hand just around the big dude's guard and drops him hard right in the middle of the street.
The crowd went fucking ballistic. It was so cool. They eventually stormed into the street and treated the guy like he just won the superbowl.:lol: :bears: :laughing:
Mean Mr Mustard
12-28-2007, 04:18 PM
As some of you good folk here may know, I am a member of security at a high end "Gentleman's Club" club here in Houston, the great Bayou City.
We had a Christmas party last week, and all was going just great.
Terrific food (prime rib, ham, turkey) and a free house bar all spelled for a grand time.
That is, until this guy, mean Mean Mr Mustard showed up.
He approached one of our girls in the parking lot, "How are you supposed to love me when you are sucking Hanzy and Rabid Kimba's cocks? We had something special! How can you marry me when you are giving your pussy away for money? Oh forget it: IT'S OVER!"
I approached the kid, about 6'3", pretty good build, very handsom