How can Tito win?

[Double L]

What scenario(s) can you envision in which Tito defeats RJJ?

[CleanYourClock]

He connects with a hard punch . That is all.

[whiskey]

He connects with a hard punch . That is all.

Pretty much. I think his only chance of that is to get Roy against the ropes. Jones will often go there on his own nowadays without even being pressed there. Trinidad will have to take the opportunity when it's there.

[slystaff]

What scenario(s) can you envision in which Tito defeats RJJ?

Lucky left hook while Jones has his hands down and clowning. :dunno:

[michaelmeyers]

all he has to do is show up to the fight. he's fighting a worthless bum of a fighter so he should be ok.

[slystaff]

If this fight is even slightly competitive for even a 30 second period in the fight, Jones would have proven himself to be beyond shot.

Stylistically this should be as a big a mismatch as any major fight in history.

Not only is Jones far more talented, but he's also SIGNIFICANTLY bigger.

[LOK]

If this fight is even slightly competitive for even a 30 second period in the fight, Jones would have proven himself to be beyond shot.

Stylistically this should be as a big a mismatch as any major fight in history.

Not only is Jones far more talented, but he's also SIGNIFICANTLY bigger.

no doubt..

Tito should have ZERO advantage in this fight

[Erratic]

Maybe Roy will be really weakened by fighting at a weight lower than he's been at since 1996.

[Double L]

what if tito uses distance and his left hand and makes rjj lead?

[Joe King]

This is a very good question

[dymipepel]

what if tito uses distance and his left hand and makes rjj lead?

What if Tito becomes a Pernell Whitaker in that fight?

[dymipepel]

what if tito uses distance and his left hand and makes rjj lead?

What if a second coming of Fanman descends upon the ring in the middle of the fight?

[CleanYourClock]

What if a second coming of Fanman descends upon the ring in the middle of the fight?

Then John Ruiz jumps in the ring and KO's Jones and then start chasing Tito ... :warning:

[monkeystyle]

There's only one way for Cheato to win :nono:

[dymipepel]

There's only one way for Cheato to win :nono:

Are you saying Roy's corner should be all over Tito's dressing room looking for tell-tale signs of Plaster of Paris?

[slystaff]

what if tito uses distance and his left hand and makes rjj lead?Amusing!

[slystaff]

Tito is toast! After this fight he shall be known as Titoast!

[dymipepel]

What if Tito starts slippin'n'slidin', bobbin'n'weavin' and then uses his patented shoulder roll?
Furthemore, what if Tito takes a page out of Willie Pep's book and decides to win a round without landing a punch?
These pressing questions are just as valid as Double L's.....

[monkeystyle]

Are you saying Roy's corner should be all over Tito's dressing room looking for tell-tale signs of Plaster of Paris?

Damn skippy.

There's the GIF of Cheato's left hook floating around here, and I don't know how anyone can look at the and not see that it look's like his hand weighed 25lbs.

[V10]

What if Tito starts slippin'n'slidin', bobbin'n'weavin' and then uses his patented shoulder roll?
Furthemore, what if Tito takes a page out of Willie Pep's book and decides to win a round without landing a punch?
These pressing questions are just as valid as Double L's.....
:lol: :laughing: :lol: :laughing:

[Rubio MHS]

What scenario(s) can you envision in which Tito defeats RJJ?Maybe a lightning strike. In his prime, Jones would have been able to dodge it, but he's slower now. Ron Paul has a better chance of getting the Republican nomination than Trinidad has of beating Roy Jones at 175.

[michaelmeyers]

What if Tito becomes a Pernell Whitaker in that fight?
That's possible. I mean Zab Judah looks like Sugar Ray Robinson during the first 30 seconds of all of his fights.

[Hex-One]

What if Tito starts slippin'n'slidin', bobbin'n'weavin' and then uses his patented shoulder roll?
Furthemore, what if Tito takes a page out of Willie Pep's book and decides to win a round without landing a punch?
These pressing questions are just as valid as Double L's.....:lol:

[Double L]

i think the size difference more than anything will be the biggest factor in favor of RJJ. but i think once again people are under-estimating Tito's ability to out-fox RJJ in spots. the only question is whether or not Tito can hurt RJJ.

[slystaff]

i think the size difference more than anything will be the biggest factor in favor of RJJ. but i think once again people are under-estimating Tito's ability to out-fox RJJ in spots. the only question is whether or not Tito can hurt RJJ.:lol: .....not possible.

[Double L]

:lol: .....not possible.

b.s. he's out-foxed every guy he's ever fought in spots with the possible exception of wright who managed to win every round without taking a single chance.

[Rubio MHS]

b.s. he's out-foxed every guy he's ever fought in spots with the possible exception of wright who managed to win every round without taking a single chance.Trinidad didn't outfox Oscar de la Hoya, unless you count buying off the judges. He sure as hell didn't outfox Bernard Hopkins.

[whiskey]

Trinidad out-foxing Roy?

I think we can put that up there in the realm of possiblity of Cory Spinks overpowering Kelly Pavlik and Manny Pacquiao outboxing Floyd Mayweather.

[CleanYourClock]

I don't really see Tito giving Roy any more problems then Hanshaw did ...
Actually , at this point in time , could Tito even beat a Hanshaw or a fighter like him ?
I mean if Tito was fighting Hanshaw , I wouldn't exactly bet my house on him . Actually I wouldn't bet anything.

[Double L]

Trinidad didn't outfox Oscar de la Hoya, unless you count buying off the judges. He sure as hell didn't outfox Bernard Hopkins.

he did in spots. in both cases. and that's my point. odh especially was lexperiencing more and more trouble fending off tito's well timed pressure.

also, whereas hopkins had no trouble dealing with tito's power, and ko'd him, he was certainly fooled in spots by tito's offense, and taken off guard.

[Rubio MHS]

The only way Trinidad can win is if Double L picks Jones.

[Double L]

Trinidad out-foxing Roy?

I think we can put that up there in the realm of possiblity of Cory Spinks overpowering Kelly Pavlik and Manny Pacquiao outboxing Floyd Mayweather.

don't misunderstand. out-foxing is something tito might expect to do once or twice a round in order to land a shot RJJ doesn't expect. that's what i mean by out-fox - tito's ability to land big shots that RJJ doesn't expect.

[whiskey]

don't misunderstand. out-foxing is something tito might expect to do once or twice a round in order to land a shot RJJ doesn't expect. that's what i mean by out-fox - tito's ability to land big shots that RJJ doesn't expect.

I think it's more likely Roy gets caught by shot because of doing something stupid moreso than Trinidad being able to outsmart Roy in a spot to land a heavy enough shot.

If Jones goes to the ropes Trinidad should unleash all his fury as that's the only chance i see him having.

[Double L]

I think it's more likely Roy gets caught by shot because of doing something stupid moreso than Trinidad being able to outsmart Roy in a spot to land a heavy enough shot.

If Jones goes to the ropes Trinidad should unleash all his fury as that's the only chance i see him having.

nah. i think rjj is safe against the ropes. that's why he goes there. he reduces his area of threat by 270 degrees. can rest. and can cover every possible vulnerability.

it'll be in the middle of the ring of, on a counter when rjj is snoozin or showin off that tito could surprise him and short circuit him the way he did Reid.

[Rubio MHS]

don't misunderstand. out-foxing is something tito might expect to do once or twice a round in order to land a shot RJJ doesn't expect. that's what i mean by out-fox - tito's ability to land big shots that RJJ doesn't expect.Again, where does Tito's ability to land big shots at 175 come from? Your ass?

[*Z*]

Again, where does Tito's ability to land big shots at 175 come from? Your ass?

I think it's more the fact that Jones was KO'd by no power Glen Johnson. Surely Tito hits as hard as Johnson does.

[Rubio MHS]

I think it's more the fact that Jones was KO'd by no power Glen Johnson. Surely Tito hits as hard as Johnson does.Based. On. What? Trinidad's only had five fights above 154, and he lost two of them. Sure, he knocked out three chinless/defenseless wonders at 160, but that doesn't translate into him having any power at 170.

[Mitchell Kane]

I think it's more the fact that Jones was KO'd by no power Glen Johnson. Surely Tito hits as hard as Johnson does.

The safe guess is Trinidad isn't crowding Jones and getting off (let alone landing) anywhere near the amount of punches Johnson did against Jones.

[puerto rock]

Sorry guys, but Tito has little chance here. The only reason I say "little" is simply because Roy ain't what he used to be, and even then I'd a picked Jones over Trinidad.

In reality this one should NOT be competitive. Roy should blow him outta there no later than the middle rounds. If he decisions Tito, I will not be impressed.

Tito's only chance is to land a lucky shot with Roy on the ropes acting like a dumb ass.

[Anthony]

Tito is using his father as a trainer. That shows you were his intelligence level is these days. Fuck him for that. Jones beats his ass. Trinidad will only throw punches at an open target. And the fact that RJJ claims that he will trade with tito clearly tells me jones will be moving around the whole fight.

[Rubio MHS]

Seriously. Did even a prime Trinidad have the power to knock out Roy Jones at 170?:dunno:

[Anthony]

Seriously. Did even a prime Trinidad have the power to knock out Roy Jones at 170?:dunno:prime tito and 170 dont mix.

[Rubio MHS]

prime tito and 170 dont mix.Current Tito and 170 don't mix.

[His_Royness]

If Tito can land a temple shot just like Johnson did that will do it - you don't have to be a good puncher when u hit him there. But that's a big if.

[Hex-One]

Damn that will suck it Tito gets blown out quick:doh: I hope he wins even though I say that with a heavy heart. RJ is also a favorite of mine. I wish this fight never been signed.

[Joe King]

Tito can win by betting on Roy

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Tito probably can't win but Don King can't win on this fight for sure $15,000 for ringside seats. What the hell is he thinking.

[whiskey]

Tito can win by betting on Roy

:lol:

[IMDAZED]

nah. i think rjj is safe against the ropes. that's why he goes there. he reduces his area of threat by 270 degrees. can rest. and can cover every possible vulnerability.

it'll be in the middle of the ring of, on a counter when rjj is snoozin or showin off that tito could surprise him and short circuit him the way he did Reid.

I'm with you on this. I think the center of the ring is where Jones is most vulnerable, and when he's coming forward. Tito comes inside on Roy and he'll get a full dose of what he got against Hopkins, except from a guy who hits much harder--particularly to the body.

Really hard to say how Tito can win because we don't know what he brings to the table at this point. It's the only X-factor. Everything else points to Jones flattening him in six.

[jaws1216]

I'm with you on this. I think the center of the ring is where Jones is most vulnerable, and when he's coming forward. Tito comes inside on Roy and he'll get a full dose of what he got against Hopkins, except from a guy who hits much harder--particularly to the body.

Really hard to say how Tito can win because we don't know what he brings to the table at this point. It's the only X-factor. Everything else points to Jones flattening him in six.

wait, the legendary Bouhairie has returned?

:bears:

[slystaff]

I'm with you on this. I think the center of the ring is where Jones is most vulnerable, and when he's coming forward. Tito comes inside on Roy and he'll get a full dose of what he got against Hopkins, except from a guy who hits much harder--particularly to the body.

Really hard to say how Tito can win because we don't know what he brings to the table at this point. It's the only X-factor. Everything else points to Jones flattening him in six.Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Jones' TWO KO losses attributed to punches landed when he was against the ropes?

[IMDAZED]

wait, the legendary Bouhairie has returned?

:bears:

Jaws, what's the deal, man?

[jaws1216]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Jones' TWO KO losses attributed to punches landed when he was against the ropes?

you're wrong.

Tarver was him getting caught trying to pull the same fundamentally unsound move that worked before, except he finally got timed.

Johnson was a case of him just getting beaten on for several rounds until he got caught with something heavy.

Both times he was backing up, but ropes werent an issue either time

[jaws1216]

Jaws, what's the deal, man?

not much hows things in the big city?

[IMDAZED]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Jones' TWO KO losses attributed to punches landed when he was against the ropes?

Jones wasn't really against the ropes in both instances - they just happened to be there lol. He was backing up both times, with his hands down. Against Tarver he threw a left hook while going back, chin straight out in the air. That happens ANYWHERE, and you're going down. Tarver stepped into his punch and found an unprotected grill. Against Johnson, pretty much the same thing, except he wasn't throwing a punch.

Jones was never a bad fighter with his back against the ropes, in fact he was one of the best--except he was too defensive at times. As he's gotten older, he's greatly improved there. He showed flashes of it against Tarver in the third fight. Against Badi and Hanshaw (I know, lesser talent), he looked like James Toney out there. Why? Because he's far more active there. It's where he works. In the center of the ring, he simply does not have the legs or reflexes to do the kind of damage he did in his younger years. One mistimed leaping left hook and he'll be kissing canvas. Unfortunately, he still tries to do that. Except now, he's wisely mixing it in with a far more refined game. He may get caught, he may not.

[slystaff]

Jaws, what's the deal, man?So You are the Kenneth Bouhairie that I see interviewing people and such!

[IMDAZED]

not much hows things in the big city?

Everything is good man, I can't complain.

FightBeat=undisputed king of message boards--at least in terms of fistic knowledge. Every time I get out...

[IMDAZED]

So You are the Kenneth Bouhairie that I see interviewing people and such!

Come on, man I thought u knew lol. Almost as big a Roy fan as you. I'd love to hear what Jake's heard on his end but I hear Roy is in ridiculous shape, man. I have a funny feeling we may see a Jones-Calzaghe/Hopkins superfight next fall.

[jaws1216]

its always nice to regain a 5th or 6th member:lol:

[slystaff]

Come on, man I thought u knew lol. Almost as big a Roy fan as you. I'd love to hear what Jake's heard on his end but I hear Roy is in ridiculous shape, man. I have a funny feeling we may see a Jones-Calzaghe/Hopkins superfight next fall.I Hope so. I want Roy to destroy Tito in this one. Tito doesn't deserve to be in the same ring as Roy Jones after his embarrasing perfromance last time out. Jones-Calzaghe or Jones-Hopkins 2 would be of interest certainly.

Tito should have come back and challenged Junior Middleweights or something. I can't believe the audacity of him and his team to think they can beat roy after being shut out by Winky!:doh:

[IMDAZED]

I Hope so. I want Roy to destroy Tito in this one. Tito doesn't deserve to be in the same ring as Roy Jones after his embarrasing perfromance last time out. Jones-Calzaghe or Jones-Hopkins 2 would be of interest certainly.

Tito should have come back and challenged Junior Middleweights or something. I can't believe the audacity of him and his team to think they can beat roy after being shut out by Winky!:doh:

Jones began losing weight right after the Hanshaw fight - I think people will be surprised how lean he is on January 19th. Whether that affects him or not remains to be seen.

[ILLUMINATI]

How can Tito win?



:dunno:I don't know..maybe landing a good solid punch early in the fight..that hurts/drops JOnes...but unlikely..

[Xplosive]

i think the size difference more than anything will be the biggest factor in favor of RJJ. but i think once again people are under-estimating Tito's ability to out-fox RJJ in spots. the only question is whether or not Tito can hurt RJJ.

Tito outbox Roy?:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

You've reached an all time low.

[uppercutz1]

Tito probably can't win but Don King can't win on this fight for sure $15,000 for ringside seats. What the hell is he thinking.


It appears that all of the $15,000 ringside seats have been sold.

[Joe King]

Tito outbox Roy?:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

You've reached an all time low.

Yeah, that is ridiculous. I mean we as RJJ fans aren't even arguing about Tito being able to KO Jones because of the way he's been put to sleep before.

However, you manage to take it to another level and say that "Tito may out fox Roy"????:eeeek: :eeeek: :eeeek:

[mexican wedding shirt]

Double seems to reach an all time low every week. So really, he is always at that low level.

No tito is not going to be outboxing Roy. The only people Tito can outbox are people like Thiam.

[Pascals Wager]

He connects with a hard punch . That is all.

That's it. The proverbial "punchers chance"

[Hex-One]

I would like to see Tito try to pump out his jab and let Roy come to him. :bears: Hey you never know.

[Rubio MHS]

I would like to see Tito try to pump out his jab and let Roy come to him. :bears: Hey you never know.Jones never comes straight at anyone. He uses angles and goes in and out. Tito's going to be bleeding from his anus by the time the night is over.

[Hex-One]

Jones never comes straight at anyone. He uses angles and goes in and out. Tito's going to be bleeding from his anus by the time the night is over.

Brutal Description!:eek:

[LEGENDARY]

Brutal Description!:eek:

Roy's sexuality is completely off TOPIC! :nono:

[Rubio MHS]

Double seems to reach an all time low every week. So really, he is always at that low level.I've always wondered whether or not Double L is a sock puppet. He can't really be this stupid, can he?

[puerto rock]

I don't even want to watch this to be honest. I know exactly what will happen.

The only question is how long it will take Roy to ice Tito.

[atomicdOGg34]

jones said at the knicks workout that tito will go down in 4

thatd be great but well see, jones has the tendancy to get ahead then coast to an easy UD as we all know

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

It appears that all of the $15,000 ringside seats have been sold.Damn. I was kinda expecting to be fans in the bleeches and nobody sat ringside. I guess DK knows more about Titos fans then i do.

[Rubio MHS]

jones said at the knicks workout that tito will go down in 4

thatd be great but well see, jones has the tendancy to get ahead then coast to an easy UD as we all knowTrinidad had a reputation of being chinny when he was still at 147. At 170, his chin will be shit.

[atomicdOGg34]

Trinidad had a reputation of being chinny when he was still at 147. At 170, his chin will be shit.

true, plus jones has always been a pretty good puncher for an undersized lt heavy, plus his speed

i can see tito getting lit up with 1 good counter shot, a check hook as tito comes in

[slystaff]

Jones is just going to play with him and knock him out whenever he chooses. What was Tito and his team thinking when they took this fight? :doh:

[atomicdOGg34]

Jones is just going to play with him and knock him out whenever he chooses. What was Tito and his team thinking when they took this fight? :doh:

$$$$$$$$$

[Joe King]

Jones is just going to play with him and knock him out whenever he chooses. What was Tito and his team thinking when they took this fight? :doh:

This.

http://espn.starwave.com/media/boxing/2004/0925/photo/a_jones2_ft.jpg


It's clear that Tito hasn't fallen out of love with his power. I think this time unlike the Winky Wrong fight, he gets put to sleep.

[LATIN KING]

Only chance I see if he gets Roy on the ropes somehow. Usually Roy stays on the ropes for a while making him miss and clowning a little.

Any other scenario Roy would be too fast.

[Rubio MHS]

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[LEGENDARY]

Only chance I see if he gets Roy on the ropes somehow. Usually Roy stays on the ropes for a while making him miss and clowning a little.

Any other scenario Roy would be too fast.

This is how.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q195/shadowsfalll/j9ones_devwmv.gif

[puerto rock]

I'm down here in Puerto Rico for the holidays. The general feeling here is that Tito is going to get KTFO. He's living off past glory here and with Cotto becoming the island's new star, Tito seems to not be coping well with it. I think the odds are against him even down here.


Regardless of weight issues, being past primed, layoffs, etc.. Roy Jones is just BETTER than Tito Trinidad. He's a better fighter. Always has been and always will be. Tito only has a puncher's chance simply because Roy isn't quite what he was. But even still, at this point I still feel that Roy is too fast, too strong, too powerful, and too skilled. Tito won't see Roy's punches and because of his pride, he'll take a huge beating.


I don't even think I'll be watching this fight. Tito is gonna get whacked badly and its going to be sad to see. The only good thing for Tito here is the career high 20 plus million he'll earn for being the sacrificial lamb.

Wish this fight was never signed.

[LEGENDARY]

I'm down here in Puerto Rico for the holidays. The general feeling here is that Tito is going to get KTFO. He's living off past glory here and with Cotto becoming the island's new star, Tito seems to not be coping well with it. I think the odds are against him even down here.


Regardless of weight issues, being past primed, layoffs, etc.. Roy Jones is just BETTER than Tito Trinidad. He's a better fighter. Always has been and always will be. Tito only has a puncher's chance simply because Roy isn't quite what he was. But even still, at this point I still feel that Roy is too fast, too strong, too powerful, and too skilled. Tito won't see Roy's punches and because of his pride, he'll take a huge beating.


I don't even think I'll be watching this fight. Tito is gonna get whacked badly and its going to be sad to see. The only good thing for Tito here is the career high 20 plus million he'll earn for being the sacrificial lamb.

Wish this fight was never signed.

Rock, so the rumours of him being in great shape and looking great in sparring are all lies? My cousin live in PR and my uncle in Guayama and they hear he's looking and responding great?

Whats up?

[Rubio MHS]

Rock, so the rumours of him being in great shape and looking great in sparring are all lies? My cousin live in PR and my uncle in Guayama and they hear he's looking and responding great?

Whats up?Yeah, he's looking pretty good for an old, chinny, one-dimensional welterweight about to take one one of the greatest light heavyweights of all time.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I'm down here in Puerto Rico for the holidays. The general feeling here is that Tito is going to get KTFO. He's living off past glory here and with Cotto becoming the island's new star, Tito seems to not be coping well with it. I think the odds are against him even down here.


Regardless of weight issues, being past primed, layoffs, etc.. Roy Jones is just BETTER than Tito Trinidad. He's a better fighter. Always has been and always will be. Tito only has a puncher's chance simply because Roy isn't quite what he was. But even still, at this point I still feel that Roy is too fast, too strong, too powerful, and too skilled. Tito won't see Roy's punches and because of his pride, he'll take a huge beating.


I don't even think I'll be watching this fight. Tito is gonna get whacked badly and its going to be sad to see. The only good thing for Tito here is the career high 20 plus million he'll earn for being the sacrificial lamb.

Wish this fight was never signed.
That is a great post.

I agree with the first part. It is obvious that Tito is fighting because of Cottos popularity. To me that is a bad reason to fight. The worst reason since Fernando Vargas is fighting for Pride.

[Joe King]

I'll get my ass kicked for 20 million. That's a good enough reason for me.:slap:

[uppercutz1]

Anyone know the official purse guarantees for this fight? (not including PPV upside).

[puerto rock]

Rock, so the rumours of him being in great shape and looking great in sparring are all lies? My cousin live in PR and my uncle in Guayama and they hear he's looking and responding great?

Whats up?

Tito doesn't look bad from what I hear. I've seen some pictures and he looks alright. Not nearly as cut or as lean as when he was even for the Mayorga fight.

But all that aside, few people if any give him a chance. Most believe that not only will he lose, but that it will be the worst loss of his career.

[atomicdOGg34]

This is how.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q195/shadowsfalll/j9ones_devwmv.gif

LMAO

when did tito become a large, southpaw, lt heavy?

so hes basically hoping he hits roy with something and then roy slips and breaks his ankle and cant continue?

[Trplsec]

This is how.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q195/shadowsfalll/j9ones_devwmv.gif


That video answers the question "How can Tito have one bright moment on the way to getting his ass kicked"

The thread asked "How can Tito win?"

Focus Legendary. Focus

[Neil]

20 mill? wow can't beat that. great payday for less than 3 minutes of work.

[LEGENDARY]

That video answers the question "How can Tito have one bright moment on the way to getting his ass kicked"

The thread asked "How can Tito win?"

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I did focus on how Tarver KHTFO and how a guy with over 10 losses KHTFO also i did Focus who didn't focus was RJJ because he was on his back. OK Champ!:flip:
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[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Anyone know the official purse guarantees for this fight? (not including PPV upside).Tito 10 Roy 5 is what i heard.

[Joe King]

Tito 10 Roy 5 is what i heard.

WTF???????

Roy settled for less?:eeeek:

[Hex-One]

WTF???????

Roy settled for less?:eeeek: What did you expect. Tito is the star here. RJ is a great fighter but Tito puts the butts on the seats.

[Antwuan Maxx]

I think Tito has a better chance than most. Seems to me Roy never truly recovered from his first KO loss and is clearly effected by pressure. He looked shaky as hell whenever Ajamu and Hanshaw both pressured him against the ropes, and there were times when I thought both were on the verge of KHTFO. I say if...no, when Tito catches him in a similar predicament , Roy goes to sleep...again.

:cool:

[Hex-One]

I think Tito has a better chance than most. Seems to me Roy never truly recovered from his first KO loss and is clearly effected by pressure. He looked shaky as hell whenever Ajamu and Hanshaw both pressured him against the ropes, and there were times when I thought both were on the verge of KHTFO. I say if...no, when Tito catches him in a similar predicament , Roy goes to sleep...again.

:cool: I agree! Alot of people are giving Tito ZERO shot! It's funny because I still remember when Tito had no shot against Fernando Vargas, David Reid, William Joppy ect... People always seem to give Tito's opponent the edge. Tito's 2 loses came in the hands of P4P fighters at the time of the lose. RJ is far from his best aand that includes Tito but at this time I feel Tito has more in the tank! We shall see...

[LEGENDARY]

I agree! Alot of people are giving Tito ZERO shot! It's funny because I still remember when Tito had no shot against Fernando Vargas, David Reid, William Joppy ect... People always seem to give Tito's opponent the edge. Tito's 2 loses came in the hands of P4P fighters at the time of the lose. RJ is far from his best aand that includes Tito but at this time I feel Tito has more in the tank! We shall see...ape

I talked to my uncle Jose last night and he was very serious in saying people are underestimating Tito's will to comeback this time. He told me that he is in great shape and is not worried at all about this fight because Tito is coming to win and also that he has a 3 -4 fight deal with King.

We shall see.:popcorn:

[Rubio MHS]

Trinidad was a solid favorite against Vargas, Reid and Joppy. Fighting Roy Jones is different.

[LEGENDARY]

Trinidad was a solid favorite against Vargas, Reid and Joppy. Fighting Roy Jones is different.

I understand he is RJJ @ 39 by fight night and is a real shell of himself that cant take any kind of punch now..This will be a good fight.

[mexican wedding shirt]

WTF???????

Roy settled for less?:eeeek:

:lol:

That made you a little sore didn't it Joe?

[Rubio MHS]

I understand he is RJJ @ 39 by fight night and is a real shell of himself that cant take any kind of punch now..This will be a good fight.That's stupid. Jones was knocked out twice, against light heavyweights. Trinidad's a fat jr. middleweight at best. He has nowhere near the punch of a light heavyweight.

[atomicdOGg34]

That's stupid. Jones was knocked out twice, against light heavyweights. Trinidad's a fat jr. middleweight at best. He has nowhere near the punch of a light heavyweight.

agreed

this will be EASY for RJ

[LEGENDARY]

That's stupid. Jones was knocked out twice, against light heavyweights. Trinidad's a fat jr. middleweight at best. He has nowhere near the punch of a light heavyweight.

So Glen Johnson hit's harder then Tito? he is tougher? A man that was Brutalized in 8 rounds by B-hop??


YES????........................NO.

[Barristan]

So Glen Johnson hit's harder then Tito? he is tougher? A man that was Brutalized in 8 rounds by B-hop??


YES????........................NO.
JOhnson didnt go down against Hops, Tito did. The ref stopped the fight. Also I think Glen IS tougher than Tito as I'm pretty sure Tito couldnt take Tarvers punches off his head for 24 rounds without going to sleep.

[Orthodox Crusader]

If Tito can pay Joe Cortez the same money Oscar came up with for Flid, then, yeah, he can win.

[LEGENDARY]

JOhnson didnt go down against Hops, Tito did. The ref stopped the fight. Also I think Glen IS tougher than Tito as I'm pretty sure Tito couldnt take Tarvers punches off his head for 24 rounds without going to sleep.

OK so the ref stopped it cause he was doing a great job??? Tito was still fighting @ 8 rounds yes?
So glen is comparable to trinidad???????????? 2 losses to 11+???:doh:

[LEGENDARY]

Im just saying Tito will be a live dog in this one Jones @ 39 and very i mean very scared to get chin checked makes him one. It's Jones that has lost so much to make Tito a live dog not that Tito has gotten better but Jones has lost that much.

[Hex-One]

There is no doubt Jones has thought about a possible ko loss. When you get ko'd like RJ has you never fully recover. RJ fully understands 1 shot can end matters.

[Rubio MHS]

So Glen Johnson hit's harder then Tito? he is tougher? A man that was Brutalized in 8 rounds by B-hop??


YES????........................NO.Hopkins gave Trinidad a lot more respect than he deserved, kind of the way Hagler respected Duran's power. Still, Hopkins easily beat him. Since then, Johnson had convincingly proven his chin above 160. Trinidad has not done this. He won't be able to take Jones's power, and he'll be knocked out in four rounds.

[LOK]

I agree with those saying Tito will not be a big puncher at the higher weight. I think Tito was a HUGE puncher at welter, maybe jr middle.. but tito can NOT hit like a Glen or Tarver, they are just bigger guys. I really dont see Tito going past 4

[Hex-One]

I agree with those saying Tito will not be a big puncher at the higher weight. I think Tito was a HUGE puncher at welter, maybe jr middle.. but tito can NOT hit like a Glen or Tarver, they are just bigger guys. I really dont see Tito going past 4 So far Tito has brought his power with him, We will see if he takes it to 170! I hear Tito is now lifting alot of weights! It will be interesting...

[ILLUMINATI]

So far Tito has brought his power with him, We will see if he takes it to 170! I hear Tito is now lifting alot of weights! It will be interesting...

so he is going to slower than usual...:doh:

[Hex-One]

so he is going to slower than usual...:doh: That left hook is pretty damn fast!:lol:

[ArturoGatti]

If this fight is even slightly competitive for even a 30 second period in the fight, Jones would have proven himself to be beyond shot.

Stylistically this should be as a big a mismatch as any major fight in history.

Not only is Jones far more talented, but he's also SIGNIFICANTLY bigger.you make it sound like this is some sort of superfight or something. :rolleyes:

It's about as meaningfull as the Larry Holmes/BNutterbean fight from a few years ago.

[REEDsART]

Tito has Absolutely ZERO Chance of Beating Roy Jones...ZERO...

To BEAT Roy Jones, it Takes a Combination of SIZE, TIMING, POWER & AGGRESSION...

Tito DOESN'T Have the SIZE, the LAYOFF will UNDENIABLY Affect his TIMING, his POWER is UNproven Past 160lbs & he'll Pay DEARLY for Being Aggressive Against Roy...

Roy Jones is THE FASTEST, STRONGEST, HARDEST Punching, Most ATHLETIC Fighter Tito will have EVER Fought...

Tito "Won" @ the Negotiating Table, but it's ALL DOWNHILL from there...

6 Rounds MAX...6 1-Sided Rounds...

& AFTER the Fact, All the Tito Fans Giving him a Chance to BEAT Roy will Do a 180, just as Hatton's Fans did after Floyd WAXED his Ass...

REED:cool:

[Joe King]

How much are they getting for the fight? I don't believe 20 milion for Tito. No way.

[Hex-One]

Tito has Absolutely ZERO Chance of Beating Roy Jones...ZERO...

To BEAT Roy Jones, it Takes a Combination of SIZE, TIMING, POWER & AGGRESSION...

Tito DOESN'T Have the SIZE, the LAYOFF will UNDENIABLY Affect his TIMING, his POWER is UNproven Past 160lbs & he'll Pay DEARLY for Being Aggressive Against Roy...

Roy Jones is THE FASTEST, STRONGEST, HARDEST Punching, Most ATHLETIC Fighter Tito will have EVER Fought...

Tito "Won" @ the Negotiating Table, but it's ALL DOWNHILL from there...

6 Rounds MAX...6 1-Sided Rounds...

& AFTER the Fact, All the Tito Fans Giving him a Chance to BEAT Roy will Do a 180, just as Hatton's Fans did after Floyd WAXED his Ass...

REED:cool: You fool! :lol: Anyone has a chance! 1 punch can end matters!

[REEDsART]

You fool! :lol: Anyone has a chance! 1 punch can end matters!Dream On, Tito Lover...

Did Tito Land Even ONE Punch of Note vs. Winky???...


REED:lol:

[Hex-One]

Dream On, Tito Lover...

Did Tito Land Even ONE Punch of Note vs. Winky???...


REED:lol: Its ok, at least Tito lost by P4P fighters at that time. Unlike Mr Jones. He got flattened by fighters who were not considered P4P Top ten.:laughing:

[REEDsART]

Its ok, at least Tito lost by P4P fighters at that time. Unlike Mr Jones. He got flattened by fighters who were not considered P4P Top ten.:laughing:Yeah, Tito Got FLATTENED by a Guy Roy Jones Beat w/1 Hand:laughing: :laughing: :rolleyes: ...

Quit while U're BEHIND, Cause Surely U DON'T Wanna Get into a Roy vs Tito Debate:nono: ...Roy SHITS on Tito's Career & U KNOW It...

The WORST Part is, AFTER Roy WAXES him, U'll B Here Making EXCUSES, just like U Did after Floyd Beat Hatton...

U SPECIALIZE in HATING on Fighters, then when they SHIT on your Hate, U Make Excuses...


REED:rolleyes:

[Hex-One]

Yeah, Tito Got FLATTENED by a Guy Roy Jones Beat w/1 Hand:laughing: :laughing: :rolleyes: ...

Quit while U're BEHIND, Cause Surely U DON'T Wanna Get into a Roy vs Tito Debate:nono: ...Roy SHITS on Tito's Career & U KNOW It...

The WORST Part is, AFTER Roy WAXES him, U'll B Here Making EXCUSES, just like U Did after Floyd Beat Hatton...

U SPECIALIZE in HATING on Fighters, then when they SHIT on your Hate, U Make Excuses...


REED:rolleyes:

RJ is one of my favorite fighters but to say Tito has no chance is just fucking stupid. If Tito manages to beat RJ your dumb ass will dissapear for months.

[Neil]

RJ is one of my favorite fighters but to say Tito has no chance is just fucking stupid. If Tito manages to beat RJ your dumb ass will dissapear for months.

if trinidad beats jones hell will hath frozen over. hanshaw would whip trinidads ass

[REEDsART]

RJ is one of my favorite fighters but to say Tito has no chance is just fucking stupid. If Tito manages to beat RJ your dumb ass will dissapear for months.To Say that Tito DOES have a Chance is just WISHFULassTHINKING...Pure UNadulterated NUTHUGGERY...

If it was Anybody BUT your Beloved Tito, U'd RECOGNIZE this MISMATCH for what it Is...But Since U Got your Face BURIED in Tito's Anus, it PAINS U to Acknowledge the Truth:rolleyes: ...

But Don't Worry...AFTER Roy Waxes him, REED WON'T Even Brag about it...

REED is even Willing to Sig Bet U...Roy STOPS Tito in 6 Rounds or LESS...& in those 6 Rounds, Tito Wins NO MORE than ONEfuckingROUND...

So If Tito BEATS Roy, Makes it PAST the 6th Round OR Wins even TWO Rounds, YOU Win the Bet...That's how CONFIDENT REED is about this Shit...

Where's YOUR Nuts @???...


REED:dunno:

[Double L]

To Say that Tito DOES have a Chance is just WISHFULassTHINKING...Pure UNadulterated NUTHUGGERY...

If it was Anybody BUT your Beloved Tito, U'd RECOGNIZE this MISMATCH for what it Is...But Since U Got your Face BURIED in Tito's Anus, it PAINS U to Acknowledge the Truth:rolleyes: ...

But Don't Worry...AFTER Roy Waxes him, REED WON'T Even Brag about it...

REED is even Willing to Sig Bet U...Roy STOPS Tito in 6 Rounds or LESS...& in those 6 Rounds, Tito Wins NO MORE than ONEfuckingROUND...

So If Tito BEATS Roy, Makes it PAST the 6th Round OR Wins even TWO Rounds, YOU Win the Bet...That's how CONFIDENT REED is about this Shit...

Where's YOUR Nuts @???...


REED:dunno:

wow REED - you're really setting RJJ up to fail.

[cupey alto]

Tito is going to clown this punk and you guys will be amazed. First round will be slow with Roy and Tito just testing each other. Once Tito warms up he'll test the inside to try and hurt Roy. Then he'll start using his jab and cutting up Roy. Around the 6th round Roy will be busted up and Tito will land and body shot that sends Roy to the ground. A brave Roy gets up only to take another beating.

this fight will be stopped and Tito will reign supreme in the division for a day and then drop down to 168lbs and beat the stuffing out of Calzaghe.

Cupey

[Erratic]

Dream On, Tito Lover...

Did Tito Land Even ONE Punch of Note vs. Winky???...


REED:lol:

Yes, I think it landed on Winky's protective cup.

[Erratic]

I'd like to see Trinidad pull it off, but I highly doubt it.

Roy's not the same fighter he was, but at least he's been semi-active and beating fringe contenders. Fringe light heavyweight contenders.

Trinidad's never fought above 160, hasn't fought since May 2005 (where he lost 12-0), and has always been a sucker for a straight right hand.

Roy's straight right is still very fast, and coming from a larger man that Tito is used to being hit by.

[Joe King]

Tito is going to clown this punk and you guys will be amazed. First round will be slow with Roy and Tito just testing each other. Once Tito warms up he'll test the inside to try and hurt Roy. Then he'll start using his jab and cutting up Roy. Around the 6th round Roy will be busted up and Tito will land and body shot that sends Roy to the ground. A brave Roy gets up only to take another beating.

this fight will be stopped and Tito will reign supreme in the division for a day and then drop down to 168lbs and beat the stuffing out of Calzaghe.

Cupey

:eeeek: :eeeek: :eeeek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :notallthere: :shit:

[ArturoGatti]

:eeeek: :eeeek: :eeeek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :notallthere: :shit:it's a well known fact that Cupey has a drug problem.

[Rubio MHS]

wow REED - you're really setting RJJ up to fail.You mean, his argument that Jones is going to win is so good that you're going to pick him? Jones is doomed, indeed. :doh:

[dsimon3387]

You mean, his argument that Jones is going to win is so good that you're going to pick him? Jones is doomed, indeed. :doh:

dsimon writes:

even a Double L pick has its limits. I can't believe this thread has gone on so long. If Tito wins this fight then look for Joe King to be right and judgement day will happen next.

[Hex-One]

it's a well known fact that Cupey has a drug problem.:lol:

[uppercutz1]

Tito 10 Roy 5 is what i heard.


I'd be surpised if Roy only agreed to take a third of the pot unless perhaps he's getting an unusually bigger chunk of PPV upside.

[Rubio MHS]

I'd be surpised if Roy only agreed to take a third of the pot unless perhaps he's getting an unusually bigger chunk of PPV upside.That does sound suspicious. Heck, $15 million in the pot's suspicious to start with. That's almost as much money was guaranteed for Mayweather-Hatton.

[IronDanLaw]

By KO.

I can't see him outboxing RJJ.