I benched 250lb twice

[Kaliber44]

And am looking to do 300 once by the summer. I think it's easily doable. What do you think?

[LOK]

no doubt it is obtainable.. you want to add 50lbs on your bench by summer? I think you can for sure if you work hard.

And am looking to do 300 once by the summer. I think it's easily doable. What do you think?

[Kaliber44]

no doubt it is obtainable.. you want to add 50lbs on your bench by summer? I think you can for sure if you work hard.

yup i do believe it's obtainable since around 6 months ago i barelly did 200 a couple of times

[Buddy Rydell]

That's really good, Kaliber. How tall are you and what weight are you at right now? 300 isn't THAT far above 250. You could probably get 260 or a bit more if you can do 250 for 2.

[Kaliber44]

That's really good, Kaliber. How tall are you and what weight are you at right now? 300 isn't THAT far above 250. You could probably get 260 or a bit more if you can do 250 for 2.

Thanks! i'm 5'11 and 185 lbs

[Buddy Rydell]

Ah, ok. You'll definitely get it eventually, but make sure you don't go heavy all the time or you'll burn out.

[Kaliber44]

Ah, ok. You'll definitely get it eventually, but make sure you don't go heavy all the time or you'll burn out.

Well i usually do a sets of 8 reps at 205lbs
Plus usually 3 different sets of different chest excercises
I do have to say i don't do decline much, i mostly do regular ones and some incline but close to none decline? Should i do more decline?

[Buddy Rydell]

I wouldn't do a lot of decline, but it's a good idea to do a little just to strengthen those muscles. It's an exercise where you can do a lot of weight easily, so I wouldn't overdo it.

[FourHooks]

Do heavy close girp bench presses to build your tricep strength....Nothing gonna be worse than having to have your spotter lift 300 the last 2 inches because your tris arent strong enough to finish the rep

[Kaliber44]

Do heavy close girp bench presses to build your tricep strength....Nothing gonna be worse than having to have your spotter lift 300 the last 2 inches because your tris arent strong enough to finish the rep

:lol: True but i do workout my arms reguarly. As a matter of fact my arms are my most developed feature..

[FourHooks]

:lol: True but i do workout my arms reguarly. As a matter of fact my arms are my most developed feature..good...now shut up and do heavy close grip presses:lol:

[Kaliber44]

good...now shut up and do heavy close grip presses:lol:

:lol: I will speaking of people giving spots..last time i was the gym not too many people were there and i was doing cardio when this pretty big arabic guy was benching and he was gonna do 260 i think so he needs a spot so he gets this little mentally challanged fellow who was hanging around lifting 5 pound weights...i dont' wanna make fun of mentally challanged or anything but how stupid of that guy to put your life in the hands of a mentally challanged fellow!

[atomicdOGg34]

take some steroids, youll be lifting 350 by summer

[Kaliber44]

take some steroids, youll be lifting 350 by summer

:lol:

:nono:

[Tyler Durden]

Can you tell me the purpose of this :popcorn:

[Roll With The Punches]

kaliber is a powerful machine :clap:

[LOK]

if you get 250 twice now.. everytime.. you might get 300 right now on a good day. just keep at it, I'd add a 2 1/2 on each side of what you do for reps..

[Ugotabe Kidding]

How many times a week do you train bench-press? I'd like to know since I have been working out for quite a while but I get results very slowly and t me getting 50 lbs more before summer sounds just unbelievable

[Kaliber44]

How many times a week do you train bench-press? I'd like to know since I have been working out for quite a while but I get results very slowly and t me getting 50 lbs more before summer sounds just unbelievable

i do chest once a week..sometimes two but that's very rare

The day i do chest i do at least 4-5 different chest excercies..it takes me roughly hour hour and half...to me key is really pushing it so my chest kills after...and i think it's good to keep trying to do more weight each week..even if you can't do the full 8 reps for example do 4 or something with more weight just to get the body used to heavier weight

[Ugotabe Kidding]

i do chest once a week..sometimes two but that's very rare

The day i do chest i do at least 4-5 different chest excercies..it takes me roughly hour hour and half...to me key is really pushing it so my chest kills after...and i think it's good to keep trying to do more weight each week..even if you can't do the full 8 reps for example do 4 or something with more weight just to get the body used to heavier weight

So do you do five exercises, all 3x8 reps or something like that?

If so, I think that pretty much v´covers it if that is what brings you results. I don't train my chest nearly as much at one time, I have thought that is overtraining

[Kaliber44]

So do you do five exercises, all 3x8 reps or something like that?

If so, I think that pretty much v´covers it if that is what brings you results. I don't train my chest nearly as much at one time, I have thought that is overtraining

well even 4x8 ya and i think overtraining would be if i did chest again the next day or day after that but since i rest it for the rest of the week then i don't think it's overtraining at all..

[Ugotabe Kidding]

well even 4x8 ya and i think overtraining would be if i did chest again the next day or day after that but since i rest it for the rest of the week then i don't think it's overtraining at all..

Ok, thanks for all this so far. What other chest exercises do you do?

[Buddy Rydell]

I rarely use heavy weight in this, but I hopped on the bench yesterday and was repping with 225. The problem with bench press is that you can use so much more weight than any other exercise except squats and deadlifts. Thus there is the possibility of more injury. I actually felt a twinge in my shoulder, but it goes away as soon as I start doing pushups.

I'm not gonna tackle heavy benches until I can do 25 consecutive pushups with good speed. That way I'll know my shoulder is stable enough to handle the really heavy stuff!

[LOK]

how many pushups are you at Buddy?

I rarely use heavy weight in this, but I hopped on the bench yesterday and was repping with 225. The problem with bench press is that you can use so much more weight than any other exercise except squats and deadlifts. Thus there is the possibility of more injury. I actually felt a twinge in my shoulder, but it goes away as soon as I start doing pushups.

I'm not gonna tackle heavy benches until I can do 25 consecutive pushups with good speed. That way I'll know my shoulder is stable enough to handle the really heavy stuff!

[Buddy Rydell]

I'm doing the same thing with pushups that I do with chinups, which means 7 consecutive pushups at 6-7 times a day. I could do more, but I want to develop it gradually so that it is an everyday thing.

[LOK]

cool Buddy..

I do them as well.. I do a min of 100 pushups everyday.. which is really just 5 sets of 20 or I'll do 4 of 25

I want to get 100 straight, last I tryed I got 82

I'm doing the same thing with pushups that I do with chinups, which means 7 consecutive pushups at 6-7 times a day. I could do more, but I want to develop it gradually so that it is an everyday thing.

[Kaliber44]

cool Buddy..

I do them as well.. I do a min of 100 pushups everyday.. which is really just 5 sets of 20 or I'll do 4 of 25

I want to get 100 straight, last I tryed I got 82

do you do any weight lifting? If so wouldn't doing 100 pushups everyday interfere with your chest work outs? Since it needs to rest and all?

[Tyler Durden]

Pushups everyday for a short training regimine is alright, but the idea behind working out the same muscle everyday does you no good.

[LOK]

I do no weightlifting..

pushups are my chest workout

do you do any weight lifting? If so wouldn't doing 100 pushups everyday interfere with your chest work outs? Since it needs to rest and all?

[Buddy Rydell]

do you do any weight lifting? If so wouldn't doing 100 pushups everyday interfere with your chest work outs? Since it needs to rest and all?

You take thousands of steps everyday. Doesn't that interfere with your leg workout? Of course not, your body has gotten used to it over a period of time. Same goes for every other exercise, but you have to get the muscles accustomed to it.

[Buddy Rydell]

Pushups everyday for a short training regimine is alright, but the idea behind working out the same muscle everyday does you no good.

And walking works...:dunno:

[Tyler Durden]

You take thousands of steps everyday. Doesn't that interfere with your leg workout? Of course not, your body has gotten used to it over a period of time. Same goes for every other exercise, but you have to get the muscles accustomed to it.

Your legs muscles are equiped for repetitive movement, you don't walk until you can't walk no more do you :nono: If you did, you would need to rest.

[Tyler Durden]

And walking works...:dunno:

Surprised you didn't say you breathe don't you :rolleyes:

[LOK]

as Buddy knows I'm all about "grease the groove"

do something enough (without going to failure) and your body adapts.. I do this with Chinups, pushups, handstands, handstand pushups, hindu squats, and even running..

my running every day, 7 days a week but only a mile.. I'm really sold on this., the distance is not much but I run it fast, it's getting easier and easier.. it is now just part of my daily routine and my body is adapting

for "ME" this type of exercise is more practical and 'real world' than having wacked ass splits and gym routines that are all muscle specific and complicated, calisthenics really make you practically strong, handling your own bodyweight easily is very practical. I've known guys that are strong as hell in the weight room but can do chinups or pushups good.. I hope these guys never fall and need to pull themselves up to save their lives.. in the real world you need to move around in your own body all the time, to me it makes sense to do so effectivly and easily

I used to be a gym rat and a trainer.. and I realized that the only time I really needed or DID 500lb squats was in the gym. It is much more pracitical to be able to handle your own weight a lot and quickly IMO

[Tyler Durden]

Best case scenerio, you get burned out :dunno: Everyday is preposterous, can you explain to me the better benifit you would get than every other day?

[Tyler Durden]

for "ME" this type of exercise is more practical and 'real world' than having wacked ass splits and gym routines that are all muscle specific and complicated, calisthenics really make you practically strong, handling your own bodyweight easily is very practical. What "real world" do you need to be able to do 100 pushups? I've known guys that are strong as hell in the weight room but can do chinups or pushups good.. I hope these guys never fall and need to pull themselves up to save their lives..when on Earth would this come into play? in the real world you need to move around in your own body all the time, to me it makes sense to do so effectivly and easily In the real world you rarely need to move around that much that requires extraordinary exercise?

I used to be a gym rat and a trainer.. and I realized that the only time I really needed or DID 500lb squats was in the gym. It is much more pracitical to be able to handle your own weight a lot and quickly IMO Do more reps, less weight!



:dunno:

[LOK]

who me?

to me my mile a day thing is just as much about the "every day" thing as it is the "mile"
doing things everyday is good for you, especially a healthy habbit..
the grease the groove theory is do it all the time, very often..

1 mile a day is better than 1 mle every other day "IMO"

the distance is so short that the body can handle this as a daily task.. for me, it's easier to do something every day than it is every other.. it's just routine, they say after doing somthing every day for like 30 days, it becomes routine and it is just as easy or easier to do it than it is to not.

Best case scenerio, you get burned out :dunno: Everyday is preposterous, can you explain to me the better benifit you would get than every other day?

[Tyler Durden]

who me?

to me my mile a day thing is just as much about the "every day" thing as it is the "mile"
doing things everyday is good for you, especially a healthy habbit..
the grease the groove theory is do it all the time, very often..

1 mile a day is better than 1 mle every other day "IMO"

the distance is so short that the body can handle this as a daily task.. for me, it's easier to do something every day than it is every other.. it's just routine, they say after doing somthing every day for like 30 days, it becomes routine and it is just as easy or easier to do it than it is to not.

Every other day gets easier and easier, you have a better chance of getting burned out everyday because there will be more times you will feel like skipping opposed to every other, simple math :dunno: I bet you couldn't measurably prove it is better every day vs. three times a week :nono:

[Buddy Rydell]

Your legs muscles are equiped for repetitive movement, you don't walk until you can't walk no more do you :nono: If you did, you would need to rest.

You do walk until you can't walk anymore when you're first starting out and developing the leg muscles as a child. And yes, you rest afterwards. I believe it is possible to develop the arms in much the same way. One guy in NY did it and he walked down the Empire State Building stairs on his hands.

[LOK]

Every other day gets easier and easier, you have a better chance of getting burned out everyday because there will be more times you will feel like skipping opposed to every other, simple math :dunno: I bet you couldn't measurably prove it is better every day vs. three times a week :nono:

You are most certainly are right, I'm not trying to prove that though.. I just do what works for me, I think that doing it every day is cooler.. sure there are days you wont want to do it and that is what makes doing it better.. I'm the type that if I break my leg, I'm gonna find SOME WAY to do my mile

[Tyler Durden]

You do walk until you can't walk anymore when you're first starting out and developing the leg muscles as a child. And yes, you rest afterwards. I believe it is possible to develop the arms in much the same way. One guy in NY did it and he walked down the Empire State Building stairs on his hands.

WHAT??? We are going back to the womb to not concede a point :nono: Holy mackerol :laughing:

I bet that guy will have major problems with his arms later and I gaurantee he can't do that for a significant part of his life, arms are not designed to walk on....hence the different mass and center of gravity :rolleyes:

[Tyler Durden]

You are most certainly are right, I'm not trying to prove that though.. I just do what works for me, I think that doing it every day is cooler.. sure there are days you wont want to do it and that is what makes doing it better.. I'm the type that if I break my leg, I'm gonna find SOME WAY to do my mile

Alright, but I wouldn't recommend it to other people.

[Tyler Durden]

Am I the only one here who has heard your mucles tear when you workout and they need time to heal? I don't know why you guys want to act like this is something new or something you can not care about :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

WHAT??? We are going back to the womb to not concede a point :nono: Holy mackerol :laughing:

I bet that guy will have major problems with his arms later and I gaurantee he can't do that for a significant part of his life, arms are not designed to walk on....hence the different mass and center of gravity :rolleyes:

It would be more convincing if you knew how to spell mackerel. I don't mind conceding a point if I'm wrong, and you definitely have a point about the different centre of gravity, but the mass is not a point. The mass comes as a side effect of using the legs so much. You doubt it, then check out someone's legs who can't walk. Toothpicks.

[Buddy Rydell]

Am I the only one here who has heard your mucles tear when you workout and they need time to heal? I don't know why you guys want to act like this is something new or something you can not care about :dunno:

If it an intense workout, then yes they need to heal. If it is just regular calisthenics, then they are low-impact and they don't strain the muscles enough to tear down and require that period of healing. It's like jogging or walking; after awhile, you get used to it and it doesn't tax the muscles that much.

[Tyler Durden]

It would be more convincing if you knew how to spell mackerel. I don't mind conceding a point if I'm wrong, and you definitely have a point about the different centre of gravity, but the mass is not a point. The mass comes as a side effect of using the legs so much. You doubt it, then check out someone's legs who can't walk. Toothpicks.

You are pulling out all the stops, spell check and baby legs :laughing: Now go research someone who walks on their hands to see what kind of problems they have :slap: You are bringing up someone with small legs or no legs at all, brilliant! You are wrong if you don't think you need time to recuperate when you tear muscles, and you have yet to show me the benifit between working out three days a week on a mucle group, compared to everyday.

[Tyler Durden]

If it an intense workout, then yes they need to heal. If it is just regular calisthenics, then they are low-impact and they don't strain the muscles enough to tear down and require that period of healing. It's like jogging or walking; after awhile, you get used to it and it doesn't tax the muscles that much.

You are doing it everyday, bad idea. You will not be getting the rest you need when you start out, so again.....admittedly by you, it's a bad idea.

[Buddy Rydell]

You are pulling out all the stops, spell check and baby legs :laughing: Now go research someone who walks on their hands to see what kind of problems they have :slap: You are bringing up someone with small legs or no legs at all, brilliant! You are wrong if you don't think you need time to recuperate when you tear muscles, and you have yet to show me the benifit between working out three days a week on a mucle group, compared to everyday.

Dude, I'm just talking about what works and giving anecdotal evidence. You're the one who wants to argue. Whether you want to believe it or not, it's working for me right now. I do chins 5 days a week ad I've never been stronger. Don't take it from me; LOK posted article links that came from MILO, a strength-training magazine. Those guys know more than you or me on the subject. They set work records in it. :dunno:

If you read what I posted, I said if it is an intense workout, then you need to heal. Doing the chinups day in and day out without pushing as hard as I can is making it less intense. I don't need to argue because it's working for me. I do calisthenics everyday, but when I do HEAVY workouts like squatting 405 for reps and deadlifting 300 for 12, then I definitely need to recuperate. That's why I do squats and deadlifts once a week. Same with bench presses. I can bench 300, but I don't do that everyday. I bench heavy once a week, and usually I don't even go heavy.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I struggle to bench like 70lbs. By struggle i mean i probably can't bench it.

[Kaliber44]

I struggle to bench like 70lbs. By struggle i mean i probably can't bench it.

70lbs? I never knew we had a female poster here :lol:

[LOK]

Like Buddy said, if it is intense, or really if it is heavy weights.. you do need to rest.
I was a certified trainer for years so I do know a thing or two, your muscles have little micro-tears that have to heal but... bodyweight is different... now if you have not done any and you start doing mad pushups.. you'll be in trouble.. but you recover, the body can handle the body's weight IMO... and it's not just "IMO" look at all the armed services.. you think these guys dont know what they are doing? you know what the staple of their workout is?? DAILY running and pushups and other bodyweight stuff.. it's just not such an overload like pushing extra heavy weights in unatural manners...

I agree with you, I would not recommend this type of workout to anyone.. you have to be in shape somewhat first. Just as when I was a trainer at a gym, the NUMBER ONE reason people stop coming quickly is they over do it.. they have been sitting around getting fat and they get in the gym and see what they can bench.:doh: muscles have a hard time with that..

doing pushups daily and gradually increasing them is fine for the body

Am I the only one here who has heard your mucles tear when you workout and they need time to heal? I don't know why you guys want to act like this is something new or something you can not care about :dunno:

[Tyler Durden]

Dude, I'm just talking about what works and giving anecdotal evidence. You're the one who wants to argue. Whether you want to believe it or not, it's working for me right now. I do chins 5 days a week ad I've never been stronger. Don't take it from me; LOK posted article links that came from MILO, a strength-training magazine. Those guys know more than you or me on the subject. They set work records in it. :dunno:

If you read what I posted, I said if it is an intense workout, then you need to heal. Doing the chinups day in and day out without pushing as hard as I can is making it less intense. I don't need to argue because it's working for me. I do calisthenics everyday, but when I do HEAVY workouts like squatting 405 for reps and deadlifting 300 for 12, then I definitely need to recuperate. That's why I do squats and deadlifts once a week. Same with bench presses. I can bench 300, but I don't do that everyday. I bench heavy once a week, and usually I don't even go heavy.

I guess you don't see the irony in calisthenics in a weight lifting thread as I do. You don't want to lift heavyweights, then don't. I've never been a supporter of heavyweights and I think I even asked why people would want to in this thread. It's dumb for everyday people who are looking to get in shape and lose some weight to lift heavyweights, it's not needed....just like doing chinups and pushups everyday vs. three times a week. But now it's down to five days, so nevermind :dunno: You said everyday, and I took it as that. It's not worth the risk getting burned out, in which you will have a better chance by using simple math. It's like drinking a beer a day because it's supposed to be good for you, but it isn't worth the risk of becoming an alcoholic, get my drift?

[Tyler Durden]

Like Buddy said, if it is intense, or really if it is heavy weights.. you do need to rest.
I was a certified trainer for years so I do know a thing or two, your muscles have little micro-tears that have to heal but... bodyweight is different... now if you have not done any and you start doing mad pushups.. you'll be in trouble.. but you recover, the body can handle the body's weight IMO... and it's not just "IMO" look at all the armed services.. you think these guys dont know what they are doing? you know what the staple of their workout is?? DAILY running and pushups and other bodyweight stuff.. it's just not such an overload like pushing extra heavy weights in unatural manners...

I agree with you, I would not recommend this type of workout to anyone.. you have to be in shape somewhat first. Just as when I was a trainer at a gym, the NUMBER ONE reason people stop coming quickly is they over do it.. they have been sitting around getting fat and they get in the gym and see what they can bench.:doh: muscles have a hard time with that..

doing pushups daily and gradually increasing them is fine for the body

I know a thing or two myself as I have been reading about this stuff for 23 years as I am sure you have too given your age. It's a weak argument, so let's get past the flexing stage of who knows more than the other :lol:

You know what I am talking about, you go start doing a bunch of pushups daily, you will never have time to heal.......yes, I heard you say after some time you get used to it, fine.....but you are admitting you are not letting yourself heal at first :dunno: I know plenty of people in the services over the years, and they push you to get your mind right and get you obsessed with what you need to get done. they want you to get past the apin and deal with it. Making them puke is fucking dumb. They do not train any faster than someone who does what they are supposed to do if they take a day of rest at least every third day. They are way too sore, too long because they don't rest, silly....especially when you can get similar results with more rest. They don't train like the way you suggest year round either, which is another point I made, only if it's temporary or training for something. Boxers don't train the way they do in three months all year around either, same with bicycling, marathon runners, NFL, you name it.

Edit: I also see you are saying this is recommended for someone in very good shape, that's a bit different. I still don't see why you guys think this is a good idea. I know you can't make a bet and know for sure, but let's try. I say my workout will last longer than you guys will this year :dunno: :cheer: Let's do this :blobbox: How can we at least try to prove it?

[LOK]

I'm not pushing what I do on anyone Tyler, as I said before, I LIKE doing it every day..

and to be clear, I shouldn't say EVERYDAY really.. I do one day on the weekend as in yesterday, (saturday) I'll do 100 chins maybe some pushups, then today I'll do nothing but my one mile run, then mon-fri I'll do probably around 50 or so chins a day and 100 pushups a day.
the only thing I'm doing 7 days a week is the mile

i wont recommend excatly what I do for anyone, you gotta find what works for you. I wouldn't bet you on who will fail either, for now this has been working great for me and I can see doing it for the long haul, the mile I WILL do everyday for a year no matter what and I cant see changing my 100 chin days either.. but I wish you sucess as well..

I know a thing or two myself as I have been reading about this stuff for 23 years as I am sure you have too given your age. It's a weak argument, so let's get past the flexing stage of who knows more than the other :lol:

You know what I am talking about, you go start doing a bunch of pushups daily, you will never have time to heal.......yes, I heard you say after some time you get used to it, fine.....but you are admitting you are not letting yourself heal at first :dunno: I know plenty of people in the services over the years, and they push you to get your mind right and get you obsessed with what you need to get done. they want you to get past the apin and deal with it. Making them puke is fucking dumb. They do not train any faster than someone who does what they are supposed to do if they take a day of rest at least every third day. They are way too sore, too long because they don't rest, silly....especially when you can get similar results with more rest. They don't train like the way you suggest year round either, which is another point I made, only if it's temporary or training for something. Boxers don't train the way they do in three months all year around either, same with bicycling, marathon runners, NFL, you name it.

Edit: I also see you are saying this is recommended for someone in very good shape, that's a bit different. I still don't see why you guys think this is a good idea. I know you can't make a bet and know for sure, but let's try. I say my workout will last longer than you guys will this year :dunno: :cheer: Let's do this :blobbox: How can we at least try to prove it?

[LOK]

I don't even believe this

I struggle to bench like 70lbs. By struggle i mean i probably can't bench it.

[Buddy Rydell]

I guess you don't see the irony in calisthenics in a weight lifting thread as I do. You don't want to lift heavyweights, then don't. I've never been a supporter of heavyweights and I think I even asked why people would want to in this thread. It's dumb for everyday people who are looking to get in shape and lose some weight to lift heavyweights, it's not needed....just like doing chinups and pushups everyday vs. three times a week. But now it's down to five days, so nevermind :dunno: You said everyday, and I took it as that. It's not worth the risk getting burned out, in which you will have a better chance by using simple math. It's like drinking a beer a day because it's supposed to be good for you, but it isn't worth the risk of becoming an alcoholic, get my drift?

Irony? Calisthenics are a good warmup for your whole body. Since you want to be warmed up before lifting heavy weights, they seem like a good idea, and they also provide strength-building applications...at least the ones that you haven't previously done on a regular basis (and for me that would be chinups). As for whether I want to lift heavy weights or not, I figure that benching 300, squatting around 500, and deadlifting at least 400 is pretty heavy.

I could do the chinups everyday, and I do usually do one set before hitting the weights because it warms up all the muscles in the back and arms. The alcoholism reference is kinda sketchy at bast, and that's not an insult.

In plain English, if it works and it doesn't hurt you, why not give it a whirl? If you find it beneficial, use it. If not, don't. :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

I know a thing or two myself as I have been reading about this stuff for 23 years as I am sure you have too given your age. It's a weak argument, so let's get past the flexing stage of who knows more than the other :lol:

You know what I am talking about, you go start doing a bunch of pushups daily, you will never have time to heal.......yes, I heard you say after some time you get used to it, fine.....but you are admitting you are not letting yourself heal at first :dunno: I know plenty of people in the services over the years, and they push you to get your mind right and get you obsessed with what you need to get done. they want you to get past the apin and deal with it. Making them puke is fucking dumb. They do not train any faster than someone who does what they are supposed to do if they take a day of rest at least every third day. They are way too sore, too long because they don't rest, silly....especially when you can get similar results with more rest. They don't train like the way you suggest year round either, which is another point I made, only if it's temporary or training for something. Boxers don't train the way they do in three months all year around either, same with bicycling, marathon runners, NFL, you name it.

Edit: I also see you are saying this is recommended for someone in very good shape, that's a bit different. I still don't see why you guys think this is a good idea. I know you can't make a bet and know for sure, but let's try. I say my workout will last longer than you guys will this year :dunno: :cheer: Let's do this :blobbox: How can we at least try to prove it?

Define longer in this context. It could be the amount of time you work out, or the number of workouts this year...or something else. Duration isn't as important as say intensity to me. I love a challenge though, so I'll give anything a whirl. The majority of my workouts last less than an hour because I hit the gym on my lunch hour and I have to travel back and forth from the gym to the office, and the travel time varies depending on the traffic.

We could do the ol' three lift total (bench, squat, and deadlift)or we could see who does more chinups in one sitting. The end of the year will be December 31st, 2008. I'll do my one-rep max in each of the three major lifts that week, and I will also see how many chinups I can do consecutively. That could be one set of chinups or several. :dunno:

[LOK]

we can do the 3 lift thing.. like next year or something or in the summer but everyone has to have video of it so no one can BS.

I'll video doing chins or lifting or whatever, I know right now my bench would prolly for one rep be around 365 or so.. and that prolly wont go up as all I do is pushups

[Tyler Durden]

Irony? Calisthenics are a good warmup for your whole body. Since you want to be warmed up before lifting heavy weights, they seem like a good idea, and they also provide strength-building applications...at least the ones that you haven't previously done on a regular basis (and for me that would be chinups). As for whether I want to lift heavy weights or not, I figure that benching 300, squatting around 500, and deadlifting at least 400 is pretty heavy.

I could do the chinups everyday, and I do usually do one set before hitting the weights because it warms up all the muscles in the back and arms. The alcoholism reference is kinda sketchy at bast, and that's not an insult.

In plain English, if it works and it doesn't hurt you, why not give it a whirl? If you find it beneficial, use it. If not, don't. :dunno:

100 pushups a day and how ever many chinups you do a day is more than just ordinary warmup. I didn't see an alcohol reference :dunno: Oh, and you spelled "best" wrong :clap:

What I've been saying, it does hurt you when you keep training without no rest.....not sure why you can't get this rationale, I really can't wait until your next post of "you get used to it" again.

[Tyler Durden]

Define longer in this context. It could be the amount of time you work out, or the number of workouts this year...or something else. Duration isn't as important as say intensity to me. I love a challenge though, so I'll give anything a whirl. The majority of my workouts last less than an hour because I hit the gym on my lunch hour and I have to travel back and forth from the gym to the office, and the travel time varies depending on the traffic.

We could do the ol' three lift total (bench, squat, and deadlift)or we could see who does more chinups in one sitting. The end of the year will be December 31st, 2008. I'll do my one-rep max in each of the three major lifts that week, and I will also see how many chinups I can do consecutively. That could be one set of chinups or several. :dunno:

I don't do squats, at least not very far squats. I don't bench, but I do butterflies with dumbells laying down on a bench.....and like I said, I don't try to use heavy weights, especially working out at home. The only way I could show I was in shape on the chest, would be me doing butterflies so many reps. How many chinups do you do? What I am looking for is motivation, it worked last time for me. There should be something we can work out :dunno: It should be easy for either of us to prove we are exercising even if we are doing it different.

[Buddy Rydell]

100 pushups a day and how ever many chinups you do a day is more than just ordinary warmup. I didn't see an alcohol reference :dunno: Oh, and you spelled "best" wrong :clap:

What I've been saying, it does hurt you when you keep training without no rest.....not sure why you can't get this rationale, I really can't wait until your next post of "you get used to it" again.

You really see only what you want to see, don't you, Tyler? I never said I do 100 pushups a day. That's LOK. Are you starting to get confused about who is whom? :lol:

It's like drinking a beer a day because it's supposed to be good for you, but it isn't worth the risk of becoming an alcoholic, get my drift?

Now do you see the alcohol reference from your own post? :lol:

You seem to think that it hurts you if you "keep training without no rest". Well, I'm of the opinion that bodyweight training affects the body differently than training with free weights or nautilus-type machines. AND I'm of the opinion that daily calisthenics can supplement your training both as a warmup AND as a training adjunct. I guess we'll see if I'm right about how it works for me at the end of this year. :dunno:

Oh, I almost forgot....you get used to it! :lol: :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

I don't do squats, at least not very far squats. I don't bench, but I do butterflies with dumbells laying down on a bench.....and like I said, I don't try to use heavy weights, especially working out at home. The only way I could show I was in shape on the chest, would be me doing butterflies so many reps. How many chinups do you do? What I am looking for is motivation, it worked last time for me. There should be something we can work out :dunno: It should be easy for either of us to prove we are exercising even if we are doing it different.

I could make a video, I guess. I have a year to figure it out, and by that time I'll be squatting, deadlifting, and benching really heavy weight.

If you don't do squats, deadlifts, bench press, or chins, then that's kind of a wash. Why don't you do them? With your superior training knowledge and knowledge of rest periods, you should be right up there, no problem! :notallthere: :lol:

I'm just busting balls now, dude. I'm confident my training will prove me right! :tease:

[Buddy Rydell]

I guess in the final analysis, a person will know what works for them and what doesn't ONLY IF they try it out. For me, I started off with a couple of chins about 5 times a day, and now I am seeing significant improvement upon that. Eventually I may need to change the routine, but it works for now!

[LOK]

thats what I'm sayin Buddy, Tyler Turden acts like I'm saying bodyweight stuff is for everyone and I'm tryin to convert people, I'm just sayin it works for me

I guess in the final analysis, a person will know what works for them and what doesn't ONLY IF they try it out. For me, I started off with a couple of chins about 5 times a day, and now I am seeing significant improvement upon that. Eventually I may need to change the routine, but it works for now!

[Buddy Rydell]

thats what I'm sayin Buddy, Tyler Turden acts like I'm saying bodyweight stuff is for everyone and I'm tryin to convert people, I'm just sayin it works for me

Nah, Tyler just wants to make sure that we're not overtraining and risking injury. My guess is he hasn't tried to do the chinups and other bodyweight exercises with the frequency that we do them. If he did, he'd realize that the same rules don't seem to apply to the bodyweight exercises. They are, simply put, easier and less taxing on the body.

[Tyler Durden]

You really see only what you want to see, don't you, Tyler? I never said I do 100 pushups a day. That's LOK. Are you starting to get confused about who is whom? :lol:



Now do you see the alcohol reference from your own post?

You seem to think that it hurts you if you "keep training without no rest". Well, I'm of the opinion that bodyweight training affects the body differently than training with free weights or nautilus-type machines. AND I'm of the opinion that daily calisthenics can supplement your training both as a warmup AND as a training adjunct. I guess we'll see if I'm right about how it works for me at the end of this year.

Oh, I almost forgot....you get used to it! :lol: :lol:

Pushups for LOK, chinups for you. You are the one argueing about "you get used to it" so it might aswell be you doing it :dunno: You are into working out everyday, let's not get into semantics :nono:

I don't see why the alcoholism reference is kinda sketchy at "bast", maybe in the next post you will explain how that analogy troubles you :dunno:
Well, I'm of the opinion that bodyweight training affects the body differently than training with free weights or nautilus-type machines. AND I'm of the opinion that daily calisthenics can supplement your training both as a warmup AND as a training adjunct.

So am I :notallthere: I disagree however on doing it 7 days a week :doh:

[Tyler Durden]

I could make a video, I guess. I have a year to figure it out, and by that time I'll be squatting, deadlifting, and benching really heavy weight.

If you don't do squats, deadlifts, bench press, or chins, then that's kind of a wash. Why don't you do them? With your superior training knowledge and knowledge of rest periods, you should be right up there, no problem! :notallthere: :lol:

I'm just busting balls now, dude. I'm confident my training will prove me right! :tease:

Right up there? Yeah I could do benching and squats heavy, but it's dangerous doing it by yourself and like I said at least 4 times now.....what's the point? I prefer isonlation exercises for what I want to accomplish. I'm strong and anyone who lifts weights to anything fewer than 6 reps is Olympic weight lifting type of training :dunno: I don't go less than 6 reps I can do comfortably. Being a more rounded trainer yourself you should know why :rolleyes:

[Tyler Durden]

Nah, Tyler just wants to make sure that we're not overtraining and risking injury. My guess is he hasn't tried to do the chinups and other bodyweight exercises with the frequency that we do them. If he did, he'd realize that the same rules don't seem to apply to the bodyweight exercises. They are, simply put, easier and less taxing on the body.

Nah, Tyler is just saying what he has been saying since post one, you are more likely to get burned out and if you train every single day, you are not allowing your muscles rest. Of course you get used to it :rolleyes: But you do not get in quicker shape because of it, I argue it slows you down until you do. I also have said since post one, I do not believe you cannot significantly measure training being better doing it everyday (7 days a week) to someone who trains a little less. How this is being argued against is beyond me. People who use Atkins diet "works for them" and "they get used to it" but they usually fail, get much fatter and hurt their health, so "it works for me" and "get used to it" means :shit: and that's not any kind of argument. :warning:

[Tyler Durden]

I guess in the final analysis, a person will know what works for them and what doesn't ONLY IF they try it out. For me, I started off with a couple of chins about 5 times a day, and now I am seeing significant improvement upon that. Eventually I may need to change the routine, but it works for now!

A couple of chins, that's a little different than training everyday to fatigue as I was OBVIOUSLY insinuating. If you would have just said you start out slow, very slow like that, I wouldn't have argued with you unless it was 7 days a week :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

Right up there? Yeah I could do benching and squats heavy, but it's dangerous doing it by yourself and like I said at least 4 times now.....what's the point? I prefer isonlation exercises for what I want to accomplish. I'm strong and anyone who lifts weights to anything fewer than 6 reps is Olympic weight lifting type of training :dunno: I don't go less than 6 reps I can do comfortably. Being a more rounded trainer yourself you should know why :rolleyes:

Tsk tsk, and here I was sticking up for you and saying you were just watching out for us. Naughty naughty! :stir: :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

Tsk tsk, and here I was sticking up for you and saying you were just watching out for us. Naughty naughty! :stir: :lol:

Actually, I am looking out for the people who don't know any better :stir:

[Buddy Rydell]

A couple of chins, that's a little different than training everyday to fatigue as I was OBVIOUSLY insinuating. If you would have just said you start out slow, very slow like that, I wouldn't have argued with you unless it was 7 days a week :dunno:

:eeeek: :lol:

I guess you didn't read my posts in LOK's 100 chins thread. I started out very easy on this. Meh, no biggie. I just think you wanted to argue with someone. :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

:eeeek: :lol:

I guess you didn't read my posts in LOK's 100 chins thread. I started out very easy on this. Meh, no biggie. I just think you wanted to argue with someone. :lol:

No I didn't.

If you can't admit I succeded in at least that, you have problems :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

I just read that thread, at least the first page......I assumed you guys were working out every day so you could do 100 a day :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

No I didn't.

If you can't admit I succeded in at least that, you have problems :lol:

Succeeded in what?

[Tyler Durden]

Succeeded in what?

I just think you wanted to argue with someone. :lol:<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Buddy Rydell]

Oh that, yeah you definitely succeeded in getting me to argue. I don't mind. Nowadays I try to put a positive spin on it all. I thought you were just looking out for us by questioning the training methodology. I'd rather believe someone is looking out rather than being a dork! :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

Oh that, yeah you definitely succeeded in getting me to argue. I don't mind. Nowadays I try to put a positive spin on it all. I thought you were just looking out for us by questioning the training methodology. I'd rather believe someone is looking out rather than being a dork! :lol:

One can do both!

How can we accomplish this bet? respectively I would have to lift something a certain amout of reps that isn't too heavy to prove I am in shape, you do so many chinups and bench presses? I don't go to a gym, so this is my only motivation :dunno: I will go to a boxing gym later in the year when I am in real good shape, but I'm not bringing a camera unless it's a sanctioned fight :nono: Which I should later......so I guess that could be my main proof :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

Like I said, I bench, squat, and deadlift once a week. I do chins 5 days a week. I guess a good question would be physical dimensions. Right now I am 220lbs and I stand 5ft8.

Whether there is or isn't a bet, I'm gonna get pics of me doing a one-rep max in those three lifts as well as a vid or two to commemorate a year of solid training. I only get to train at lunch hour most days because my wife and homelife takes up the rest of my time.

How about a vid of # of consecutive chins? That way we can keep track of whose method is more effective? How about one-rep max in bench, squat, deadlift, and overhead press? I mention these because they are what I do weekly.

[Tyler Durden]

Like I said, I bench, squat, and deadlift once a week. I do chins 5 days a week. I guess a good question would be physical dimensions. Right now I am 220lbs and I stand 5ft8.

Whether there is or isn't a bet, I'm gonna get pics of me doing a one-rep max in those three lifts as well as a vid or two to commemorate a year of solid training. I only get to train at lunch hour most days because my wife and homelife takes up the rest of my time.

How about a vid of # of consecutive chins? That way we can keep track of whose method is more effective? How about one-rep max in bench, squat, deadlift, and overhead press? I mention these because they are what I do weekly.

I told you I don't go below 6 reps :dunno: And I only do isolation exercises......unless you are asking if thats the proof you want to show :dunno: There should be a required amount that proves a person is in shape, example: I would use 60 pound dumbells to do 6 reps on a horizontal butterfly on a bench :dunno: But the real test would be me in a ring, you HAVE to be in shape to just go 3 rounds, even if it amateur :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

We can make a bet on a set of 10 reps in the squat, bench, deadlift, and overhead power press. I should be overhead pressing at least 275 for 10 by that time. :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

We can make a bet on a set of 10 reps in the squat, bench, deadlift, and overhead power press. I should be overhead pressing at least 275 for 10 by that time. :lol:

Sounds good for you, I told you I only do isolation exercises, so let me know what would be acceptable to you, from me.

[Buddy Rydell]

Only isolation exercises, eh? What about chinups with a shoulder-width grip? Well, off to bed, I'll check in tomorrow!

[Tyler Durden]

Only isolation exercises, eh? What about chinups with a shoulder-width grip? Well, off to bed, I'll check in tomorrow!

How about exercises I use, then go from there :lol:

I have a routine I follow, and getting down in weight, I am not going to be lifting alot as I do not want to bulk up.

Example: 60 pound dumbells at least 6 reps horizontally. I know I won't go over that weight, or at least I shouldn't if I am going down in weight. That should be proof of being in shape for chest. I will post my exercises I do and you can choose some more from them.

[Tyler Durden]

I alternate each exercise for each muscle group twice a week.

Wednesday/Saturday<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Rope pull down for stomach, calisthenics for stomach
Cable curl, seated dumbell curl, curl with that thing under your arms, I forget it's name
Reverse curl for hamstrings
Standing calf raises/seated calf raises

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Thursday/Sunday<o:p></o:p>
Incline press, butterflies vertical, butterflies dumbell, decline press
leg curl with machine/gravity squat
Shoulder shrugs with machine
Lat pulldown, machine rows
Rope for triceps


*I don't use isolation exercises on my shoulders, i take care of that doing this :blobbox:

[Tyler Durden]

I just went ot ANOTHER level :blobbox: It's on, I am where I should be three weeks from now, fightbeat was with me on that one :lol:

1 down, 51 to go :blobbox:

[LOK]

i'll do a clip of when I can get a one armed chin

Like I said, I bench, squat, and deadlift once a week. I do chins 5 days a week. I guess a good question would be physical dimensions. Right now I am 220lbs and I stand 5ft8.

Whether there is or isn't a bet, I'm gonna get pics of me doing a one-rep max in those three lifts as well as a vid or two to commemorate a year of solid training. I only get to train at lunch hour most days because my wife and homelife takes up the rest of my time.

How about a vid of # of consecutive chins? That way we can keep track of whose method is more effective? How about one-rep max in bench, squat, deadlift, and overhead press? I mention these because they are what I do weekly.

[Buddy Rydell]

i'll do a clip of when I can get a one armed chin

That's a great goal for the end of the year. If I can get at least one of those, then I'd be on Cloud 9...or better yet, a set of them. :clap:

[LOK]

yeah, that is one of my goals for the year, as well as walking the length of a football field on my hands, doing 100 straight pushups (i'm almost there) and running a sub 5 min mile

That's a great goal for the end of the year. If I can get at least one of those, then I'd be on Cloud 9...or better yet, a set of them. :clap:

[Buddy Rydell]

I told you I don't go below 6 reps :dunno: And I only do isolation exercises......unless you are asking if thats the proof you want to show :dunno: There should be a required amount that proves a person is in shape, example: I would use 60 pound dumbells to do 6 reps on a horizontal butterfly on a bench :dunno: But the real test would be me in a ring, you HAVE to be in shape to just go 3 rounds, even if it amateur :dunno:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

[LOK]

http://i11.tinypic.com/8bf6hk5.gif

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol:

[Tyler Durden]

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I'd probably make it two whole days. The third day, something would snap off. :lol:


:dunno: I guess you pussed out.

[Tyler Durden]

Geez, I think I might be a bit overtrained...or maybe I'm just wiped out. I went downstairs and the chins were all of a sudden hard as hell. I think I might need to take a day off. :dunno:

Imagine that :slap:

[Buddy Rydell]

Oh HO, Tiny Turdy is getting a little frisky today. I'd love to make a bet with you, but since you seem to use only the little pink weights in your isolation exercises, I don't know what to tell you.

Just make sure you don't do pushups two days in a row, Tyler. We don't want you to strain your vaginal muscles. :eeeek: :lol:

[LOK]

lol

little terd boy and his pink little weights...


Oh HO, Tiny Turdy is getting a little frisky today. I'd love to make a bet with you, but since you seem to use only the little pink weights in your isolation exercises, I don't know what to tell you.

Just make sure you don't do pushups two days in a row, Tyler. We don't want you to strain your vaginal muscles. :eeeek: :lol:

[LOK]

Just make sure you don't do pushups two days in a row, Tyler. We don't want you to strain your vaginal muscles. :eeeek: :lol:

:laughing: :lol: :laughing:

this one really made me laugh out water:bears:

[Tyler Durden]

Oh HO, Tiny Turdy is getting a little frisky today. I'd love to make a bet with you, but since you seem to use only the little pink weights in your isolation exercises, I don't know what to tell you.

Just make sure you don't do pushups two days in a row, Tyler. We don't want you to strain your vaginal muscles. :eeeek: :lol:

Let's see you lift that weight talker :lol:

You are already crying about not having enough to carry on :old: and it's been a month?

I clearly stated I don't think it's a good idea to work the same muscles daily, but now I'm supposed to change? :notallthere: I also clearly stated it is of NO more benifit to do the same exercise 7 days vs. 5 days, but you want to brag about doing a bunch of sets daily? We CLEARLY disagree on exercise routines, why the fuck would I do what you do? The point of the bet was to see which routine will last longer and stay in shape.......I don't know how to make it any more clear without one of these :warning:

[Tyler Durden]

lol

little terd boy and his pink little weights...

:lol: I won't hold my breathe waiting to see you guys lifting the little weights, especially when you guys are using chick weights and sweat suits doing chinups :laughing:

[Tyler Durden]

lol

little terd boy and his pink little weights...

I never do more than 10 really..going to failure is not good (IMO)

:slap:

[Tyler Durden]

Originally Posted by Buddy Rydell
Geez, I think I might be a bit overtrained...or maybe I'm just wiped out. I went downstairs and the chins were all of a sudden hard as hell. I think I might need to take a day off. :dunno:


This is worth posting again, OWNED :bears:

[LOK]

lol.. ok terd burgler.. I'll make a clip at some point and you do the same.. then we can see what peope think..

maybe you'll lift your pink weights in your rainbow colored leotard:lol:

:lol: I won't hold my breathe waiting to see you guys lifting the little weights, especially when you guys are using chick weights and sweat suits doing chinups :laughing:

[Tyler Durden]

lol.. ok terd burgler.. I'll make a clip at some point and you do the same.. then we can see what peope think..

maybe you'll lift your pink weights in your rainbow colored leotard:lol:

Says the guy who admittedly wears spandex :doh:


I'd say.. if you are going to train in boxing.. and weight training.. the main thing is not to bulk up, as you said you wanna me lighter and leaner


Now hopefully you don't have another stroke and completely forget what the point is again:slap:

[LOK]

show me where I ever said I wear "spandex":lol:

Says the guy who admittedly wears spandex :doh:



Now hopefully you don't have another stroke and completely forget what the point is again:slap:

[Buddy Rydell]

Tiny Turdy, I could be wearing a rainbow jumpsuit with pink rubber dicks glued to it and still be more manly than you. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

If you want a challenge, do a basic compound lift that incorporates a number of muscle groups instead of doing nancy curls and butterflies.

As for asking why would you do the routine that I do? The answer is simple: you do it for awhile and maybe, if you're lucky, you'll come to be like your hero, Buddy Rydell, who is loved by women and feared by men the world over! :lol:

[LOK]

lol!!!:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

poor little turdy.. doing his gay butterflies with 20's:laughing:


Tiny Turdy, I could be wearing a rainbow jumpsuit with pink rubber dicks glued to it and still be more manly than you. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

If you want a challenge, do a basic compound lift that incorporates a number of muscle groups instead of doing nancy curls and butterflies.

As for asking why would you do the routine that I do? The answer is simple: you do it for awhile and maybe, if you're lucky, you'll come to be like your hero, Buddy Rydell, who is loved by women and feared by men the world over! :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

show me where I ever said I wear "spandex":lol:

When you do Yoga, don't play dumb :nono:

[Tyler Durden]

Tiny Turdy, I could be wearing a rainbow jumpsuit with pink rubber dicks glued to it and still be more manly than you. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

If you want a challenge, do a basic compound lift that incorporates a number of muscle groups instead of doing nancy curls and butterflies.

As for asking why would you do the routine that I do? The answer is simple: you do it for awhile and maybe, if you're lucky, you'll come to be like your hero, Buddy Rydell, who is loved by women and feared by men the world over! :lol:

You probably do wear that when you do dickups :laughing:

I know LOK's excuse for being brain dead, but it must be true what they say about midgets..... along with being inept to look over a crowd of people, they are also inept in comprehension too. This about my routine against yours, which will last longer.....which will yeild better results :dunno:

[Tyler Durden]

lol!!!:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

poor little turdy.. doing his gay butterflies with 20's:laughing:

20's is something you would do Mr. spandex..because you know how you "don't want to go to failure", although by the looks of your dickup thread, that is false :nono:

[LOK]

as I thought, you can't cuz I never said I wear that gay shit. .

I'm the guy that used to go in lifting in the gym in Jeans and boots and people would be wearing gay ass clothes.. I am totally againest it. I mostly do my running in sweatpants and boots and I do not do yoga:lol: I tried it about a year ago and it helped my back quite a bit but that was only a short class

mr "I only do isolation exercises" :laughing:

When you do Yoga, don't play dumb :nono:

[LOK]

lol

you are almost funny Turdy..:lol:

ok.. we'll see who keeps up longer and who is in better shape/stronger

You probably do wear that when you do dickups :laughing:

I know LOK's excuse for being brain dead, but it must be true what they say about midgets..... along with being inept to look over a crowd of people, they are also inept in comprehension too. This about my routine against yours, which will last longer.....which will yeild better results :dunno:

[LOK]

you are sadly mistaken son.. I wish we could go to the gym.. I can prolly bench what you squat gay boy:laughing:


20's is something you would do Mr. spandex..because you know how you "don't want to go to failure", although by the looks of your dickup thread, that is false :nono:

[Buddy Rydell]

You probably do wear that when you do dickups :laughing:

I know LOK's excuse for being brain dead, but it must be true what they say about midgets..... along with being inept to look over a crowd of people, they are also inept in comprehension too. This about my routine against yours, which will last longer.....which will yeild better results :dunno:

No doubt, if a person wants to lift fairyweights, then yours is undoubtedly the routine to emulate:lol: ...but what happens when the person wants to lift MORE than 60lbs ? :laughing:

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll never have to experience that. :clap:

[Buddy Rydell]

Tyler doesn't do squats. He prefers to do reverse toe raises on a hydraulic machine with extra padding on the bar. It's a wonderful isolation exercise. He can already do 5 whole lbs on it. :bears: :lol:

[LOK]

:lol:

I think Turd boy prolly avoids reverse toe raises, they are just too compond, he likes to work EACH toe seperatly and go to complete failure with 2oz weights on each toe


Tyler doesn't do squats. He prefers to do reverse toe raises on a hydraulic machine with extra padding on the bar. It's a wonderful isolation exercise. He can already do 5 whole lbs on it. :bears: :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

as I thought, you can't cuz I never said I wear that gay shit. .

I'm the guy that used to go in lifting in the gym in Jeans and boots and people would be wearing gay ass clothes.. I am totally againest it. I mostly do my running in sweatpants and boots and I do not do yoga:lol: I tried it about a year ago and it helped my back quite a bit but that was only a short class

mr "I only do isolation exercises" :laughing:

OK mofo, I hope the thread is still around. You did it, now you "say" you don't. You did and you wore spandex.....but don't anymore :rolleyes: don't be embarassed :doh: :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

lol

you are almost funny Turdy..:lol:

ok.. we'll see who keeps up longer and who is in better shape/stronger

Good, i only said it 6 times now :eeeek: Welcome aboard :clap:

[Tyler Durden]

you are sadly mistaken son.. I wish we could go to the gym.. I can prolly bench what you squat gay boy:laughing:

That was your quote brain dead :lol: Argue with yourself.

[Tyler Durden]

No doubt, if a person wants to lift fairyweights, then yours is undoubtedly the routine to emulate:lol: ...but what happens when the person wants to lift MORE than 60lbs ? :laughing:

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll never have to experience that. :clap:

The day you do over 60 pound dumbells, you can talk shit :dunno: But that won't change the fact I am not trying to bulk up even if you could muster that weight :dunno:Anyone who has ever boxed should know using over 60 pound dumbells is of no benifit. And unlike you, I am over 5'3", it's hard to stay @200 when you are taller than a woman :lol:

[LOK]

lol!

I have never wore spandex in my life.. and that's the truth

OK mofo, I hope the thread is still around. You did it, now you "say" you don't. You did and you wore spandex.....but don't anymore :rolleyes: don't be embarassed :doh: :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

The day you do over 60 pound dumbells, you can talk shit :dunno: But that won't change the fact I am not trying to bulk up even if you could muster that weight :dunno:Anyone who has ever boxed should know using over 60 pound dumbells is of no benifit. And unlike you, I am over 5'3", it's hard to stay @200 when you are taller than a woman :lol:

Dude, I can use 100lb dumbbells (In other words, you and your boyfriend). Hell, I could probably use 120s. I bench 300 no problem, and while I'm 5ft8, it's really not much for me to worry about because I would crush you in the ring or the weightroom. :lol:

Stick to the little girl weights and leave the manly weight-training discussion to your superiors. :cool: :lol:

[LOK]

I love when 60lb dbs is something to brag about:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I never knew until this thread that Turd on is such a panzy

Dude, I can use 100lb dumbbells (In other words, you and your boyfriend). Hell, I could probably use 120s. I bench 300 no problem, and while I'm 5ft8, it's really not much for me to worry about because I would crush you in the ring or the weightroom. :lol:

Stick to the little girl weights and leave the manly weight-training discussion to your superiors. :cool: :lol:

[LOK]

find it..

show me where I ever said I wear spandex:lol:

OK mofo, I hope the thread is still around. You did it, now you "say" you don't. You did and you wore spandex.....but don't anymore :rolleyes: don't be embarassed :doh: :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

Ah, deadlifting 315 for 10 easy. I should have no problem being at my all-time strongest by the time my son is born in late March/early April.

I might have a 500lb deadlift under my belt by that time. :clap:

[Tyler Durden]

Dude, I can use 100lb dumbbells (In other words, you and your boyfriend). Hell, I could probably use 120s. I bench 300 no problem, and while I'm 5ft8, it's really not much for me to worry about because I would crush you in the ring or the weightroom. :lol:

Stick to the little girl weights and leave the manly weight-training discussion to your superiors. :cool: :lol:

Waiting for you to post doing 120 butterflies 6 reps, and curling 120's 6 reps :clap: Talk is cheap midget.

Still won't change the fact you shouldn't lift heavyweight to box when you are going down in weight and not part of the lolipop guild.

[Tyler Durden]

I love when 60lb dbs is something to brag about:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I never knew until this thread that Turd on is such a panzy

Show me where I said I was bragging about it :dunno: I said that's where I stop and is proof you are at least in shape, but then again you get a free pass for obvious reasons :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

find it..

show me where I ever said I wear spandex:lol:

Oh, so you at least admit you do Yoga :laughing:

[Tyler Durden]

I might have a 500lb deadlift under my belt by that time. :clap:
Originally Posted by Buddy Rydell
Geez, I think I might be a bit overtrained...or maybe I'm just wiped out. I went downstairs and the chins were all of a sudden hard as hell. I think I might need to take a day off. :dunno:


:nono:

[Tyler Durden]

Neither one of you guys say you are lifting weights, and you are telling me you can use 120 dumbells right now :laughing:

Talk is cheap, REAL cheap. How gay is it to lie on the net :rolleyes:

[Tyler Durden]

find it..

show me where I ever said I wear spandex:lol:

Lucky for you, there isn't even a post about you doing Yoga I could find, at least you admitted it.....although you say you don't do it anymore :rolleyes: :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

Waiting for you to post doing 120 butterflies 6 reps, and curling 120's 6 reps :clap: Talk is cheap midget.

Still won't change the fact you shouldn't lift heavyweight to box when you are going down in weight and not part of the lolipop guild.

These lines were getting old when people were using them on StingerKarl. :lol:

I might decide to do the butterflies at the end of my workout, and I'll make a vid or a gif image of the weight and me using them for 6. That's not the hard part. The hard part is getting permission to film in the gym, and the hard part is also not disturbing other peoples' workouts with the videocamera and stuff.

But I'll get'er done sometime. Don't you worry, Tiny Turdy! Mighty Mouse will make a video for you! :lol:

With all this talk of being short and such, along with you using little sissy weights, I have to imagine you might be projecting. What's your height, Tiny? It better be a lot more than 5ft8 since you're talking so much. :eeeek: :lol:

You're probably an inch or two taller, and I bet it means the world to you. :laughing:

[Buddy Rydell]

Originally Posted by Buddy Rydell
Geez, I think I might be a bit overtrained...or maybe I'm just wiped out. I went downstairs and the chins were all of a sudden hard as hell. I think I might need to take a day off. :dunno:


:nono:

If you could post that quote for the record-setting 100th straight time, and make a few more lollipop guild jokes, I'm sure you'll really get me then. :lol:

Just make sure to focus on your workouts, Tiny. So far we've seen you post that you may or may not record yourself in the gym and in sparring. Whoa, way to put yourself out on a limb! :eeeek: :lol: :lol:

[LOK]

:lol:

I did, I admit that.. I took a yoga class last year and honestly it is ONE of the things that got me into bodyweight training, it is suprisingly hard.
I went there to try and get my back in better shape and it helped a LOT! But I noticed that on top of making my back feel better, I was suprised at how strong some people there were. And this is when I was still lifting a bit, and not 60lb dumbells:laughing:

Lucky for you, there isn't even a post about you doing Yoga I could find, at least you admitted it.....although you say you don't do it anymore :rolleyes: :lol:

[LOK]

Man Buddy, I wish I still had my heavy dumbells I sold before I moved..

You know.. when you are in the gym, there are people that THINK they are strong then there are people that are STRONG! when I worked at Golds none of us would brag about 60's or even use them unless it was in a progression up to the heavier stuff.

Like I think I told you, I have done nothing but bodyweight training and when I did go try to lift a few weeks back I was suprised at my strength.

If you could post that quote for the record-setting 100th straight time, and make a few more lollipop guild jokes, I'm sure you'll really get me then. :lol:

Just make sure to focus on your workouts, Tiny. So far we've seen you post that you may or may not record yourself in the gym and in sparring. Whoa, way to put yourself out on a limb! :eeeek: :lol: :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

Yeah, for me it's just logical progression. All my old lifts are getting back up to speed, and I'm doing stuff that I could NEVER do as a teen...like super-widegrip chins. I'm just slowly but surely regaining my form in everything.

But there's always someone out there who is much stronger. The world bench press and squat records are at 1,000+ lbs now, and the deadlift is also. Now THOSE are amazing lifts. The stuff I do is good, but looking at the big stuff puts it in perspective.:dunno:

[LOK]

I'm gonna send you a clip Buddy.. I have a new exercise that is awesome

I do my eliptical on my hands!


Yeah, for me it's just logical progression. All my old lifts are getting back up to speed, and I'm doing stuff that I could NEVER do as a teen...like super-widegrip chins. I'm just slowly but surely regaining my form in everything.

But there's always someone out there who is much stronger. The world bench press and squat records are at 1,000+ lbs now, and the deadlift is also. Now THOSE are amazing lifts. The stuff I do is good, but looking at the big stuff puts it in perspective.:dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

Neither one of you guys say you are lifting weights, and you are telling me you can use 120 dumbells right now :laughing:

Talk is cheap, REAL cheap. How gay is it to lie on the net :rolleyes:

Tiny Turdy, you've been reading this thread and the chinup thread, haven't you? I'm squatting 405 for 6-8 reps, deadlifting 315lbs for 10, and doing standing powerpresses with 185 for 15 reps. I guess you have a hard time believing 120lb dumbbells because you're not that strong. :doh: :dunno:

I'm not saying I'm doing 120lb flyes right now because I don't do flyes often, but I know I could get that easy before the year is out. I bench 300, dude. Do you really think I can't handle two 120lb dumbbells which combine to 240lbs total on the flat bench?

I get that you're weak, dude. You've explained it fairly clearly. Some of us just aren't. Sorry if that upsets you. :dunno: :lol:

[Irish98]

Perhaps it's because I'm a novice (and relatively weak) but it seems to me that 60 lb dumbbell flyes aren't exactly easy. I don't see too many people in the gym doing 120 lb dumbbell bench presses let alone 120 lb dumbbell flyes.

[Buddy Rydell]

Perhaps it's because I'm a novice (and relatively weak) but it seems to me that 60 lb dumbbell flyes aren't exactly easy. I don't see too many people in the gym doing 120 lb dumbbell bench presses let alone 120 lb dumbbell flyes.

Nothing wrong with that. From what I've seen, I'm one of the stronger guys at my gym during lunch hour, but I imagine there are many stronger who train at different times like in the evening.

My uncle, many years before he died, benched 500 before he hurt his back. I'm now, at age 35, around the same weight and height as most of my uncles were. They were all about this size or taller, and they were strong as hell. It runs in the family. :dunno:

[Irish98]

Nothing wrong with that. From what I've seen, I'm one of the stronger guys at my gym during lunch hour, but I imagine there are many stronger who train at different times like in the evening.

My uncle, many years before he died, benched 500 before he hurt his back. I'm now, at age 35, around the same weight and height as most of my uncles were. They were all about this size or taller, and they were strong as hell. It runs in the family. :dunno:

I'm sure you're just giving Tyler the business because he's doing the same to you.

I've been doing a lot of chinups and pushups for about two weeks now and I'm already seeing results, especially in my biceps and back. Hopefully, I can continue to get bigger as I stick with this new routine. I'm going to try varying my chinups (different grips, adding weights) to see if it helps even more.

Thanks to you and LOK for your contributions to this section of the board. It's been helpful.

[Buddy Rydell]

I'm sure you're just giving Tyler the business because he's doing the same to you.

I've been doing a lot of chinups and pushups for about two weeks now and I'm already seeing results, especially in my biceps and back. Hopefully, I can continue to get bigger as I stick with this new routine. I'm going to try varying my chinups (different grips, adding weights) to see if it helps even more.

Thanks to you and LOK for your contributions to this section of the board. It's been helpful.

Yeah, Tyler wants to play, so I give him a slap on the back of the head like the crosseyed stepchild he is. No harm done! :lol:

Glad to hear you're getting results, I-98. Lokster definitely comes up with some good stuff. And I do as well.

I guess it IS true: even a blind dog finds a bone sometimes...NOT THAT KIND OF BONE, TYLER! :lol: :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

Tiny Turdy, you've been reading this thread and the chinup thread, haven't you? I'm squatting 405 for 6-8 reps, deadlifting 315lbs for 10, and doing standing powerpresses with 185 for 15 reps. I guess you have a hard time believing 120lb dumbbells because you're not that strong. :doh: :dunno:

I'm not saying I'm doing 120lb flyes right now because I don't do flyes often, but I know I could get that easy before the year is out. I bench 300, dude. Do you really think I can't handle two 120lb dumbbells which combine to 240lbs total on the flat bench?

I get that you're weak, dude. You've explained it fairly clearly. Some of us just aren't. Sorry if that upsets you. :dunno: :lol:

240 pound BUTTERFLIES is alot on a flat bench. I would have to see it to believe it. I'm not sure you even know how to properly perform them, but we will see. If you are working out with heavy weights, then yes......you should be able to lift more than me. I thought you were not. If you have not been working out, there is no way in hell you can do 60's with dumbells right out the gate, HENCE the reason I said it would be proof I was in some kind of shape. I CLEARLY said I do not go over that because I cannot maintain 200 at my height lifting over that weight. You are illiterate if you think me saying that I will do 60's on butterflies is alot, because right now I bet I could do 50's, and I have NOT been working out:dunno: I can't do an extra 10 pounds each arm in a year? Pffffttttt. Talk is cheap, like I said :clap: Again, I am lifting weights for shape, NOT bulk "shortbus" :lol:


Oh, let me also add, .....benching you can lift alot more than butterflies, so no......I DON'T think you can do the same weight :rolleyes:

[Tyler Durden]

Perhaps it's because I'm a novice (and relatively weak) but it seems to me that 60 lb dumbbell flyes aren't exactly easy. I don't see too many people in the gym doing 120 lb dumbbell bench presses let alone 120 lb dumbbell flyes.

That's because if you don't workout, NO ONE ever starts out @ 60's , I don't give a fuck who you are. Buddy is a liar. The day you see someone go in the gym and start doing 60's, let Buddy know so you can prove me wrong and get it verified :rolleyes:

[Tyler Durden]

Yeah, Tyler wants to play, so I give him a slap on the back of the head like the crosseyed stepchild he is. No harm done! :lol:

Glad to hear you're getting results, I-98. Lokster definitely comes up with some good stuff. And I do as well.

I guess it IS true: even a blind dog finds a bone sometimes...NOT THAT KIND OF BONE, TYLER! :lol: :lol:

You couldn't reach the back of my head.

[Tyler Durden]

Anyone who is keeping score, Buddy says he can do ALOT more than 60's on curling and butterflies. There will be alot of going back and forth, but if you want to keep track of anything......pay CLOSE attention to his claims with no evidence. Right now he is just talking, nothing more. Lok is doing the same.

Proof and evidence, gotta love it :popcorn:

[Buddy Rydell]

240 pound BUTTERFLIES is alot on a flat bench. I would have to see it to believe it. I'm not sure you even know how to properly perform them, but we will see. If you are working out with heavy weights, then yes......you should be able to lift more than me. I thought you were not. If you have not been working out, there is no way in hell you can do 60's with dumbells right out the gate, HENCE the reason I said it would be proof I was in some kind of shape. I CLEARLY said I do not go over that because I cannot maintain 200 at my height lifting over that weight. You are illiterate if you think me saying that I will do 60's on butterflies is alot, because right now I bet I could do 50's, and I have NOT been working out I can't do an extra 10 pounds each arm in a year? Pffffttttt. Talk is cheap, like I said Again, I am lifting weights for shape, NOT bulk "shortbus"



Oh, let me also add, .....benching you can lift alot more than butterflies, so no......I DON'T think you can do the same weight

Untwist your panties, Tiny Turdy. You definitely have a hair or two stuck in them, and it's making you pissy. If you didn't know that I lift heavy weights, then you haven't been reading the threads in here, and it follows from there that you don't know what you're talking about. :lol:

I was curling 45s for sets of 10 when I was 20. That's 15 years ago. Heck, 10 years ago, I could dumbbell bench press 100s for 8, and I wasn't training specifically for that...I was supersetting with flyes to shape up after exams. :dunno:

I just think a grown man, if that is what you are (which would be surprising because you sound like a teenager measuring yourself against men and getting mad when you don't measure up), should be lifting more than a measly couple of 60lb dumbbells in chest exercises. And now you're saying you can't even do that. :lol:

Sounds like someone is upset for realizing that they are weak. Not everyone is cut out to be strong. Don't get mad about it, Turdy! You could still play pingpong, right?:dunno:

I'll still be plugging away at the heavy weights at the end of the year, and I'll be glad to show you. :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

That's because if you don't workout, NO ONE ever starts out @ 60's , I don't give a fuck who you are. Buddy is a liar. The day you see someone go in the gym and start doing 60's, let Buddy know so you can prove me wrong and get it verified :rolleyes:

Wow, such hostile angry language. Not everyone starts out a 98lb weakling like you, Turdy. I know guys who don't lift weights who are 6ft2 and 220lbs (One fellow at work does no weights, and he's a big big guy).

Granted they carry some bodyfat, but they could walk right in and use 60s no problem (though I suspect he'd warm up with lighter stuff first). Where did you grow up? With circus midgets? :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

You couldn't reach the back of my head.

No, I'd be patting the top of your head while you're bringing your mother a beer as she nibbles my balls! Are you sure you're not a teenage girl? That would explain the anger and inability to lift weights over 40lbs. :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

Anyone who is keeping score, Buddy says he can do ALOT more than 60's on curling and butterflies. There will be alot of going back and forth, but if you want to keep track of anything......pay CLOSE attention to his claims with no evidence. Right now he is just talking, nothing more. Lok is doing the same.

Proof and evidence, gotta love it :popcorn:

Seeing as how I can cheat curl 175, powerclean more than 205, and do 10 chinups at a bodyweight of 220lbs, it's not hard to believe. :dunno:

People should do what they say they can do. :dunno: :dunno:

[LOK]

let me say if we are talking purely "FLYS" then 60 is a lot

dumbell presses... it's not


flys are really for bodybuilders or bitches though

[Buddy Rydell]

let me say if we are talking purely "FLYS" then 60 is a lot

dumbell presses... it's not


flys are really for bodybuilders or bitches though

It's not that much weight if it is the only heavy chest exercise you do. He doesn't do anything else for chest apparently. It'd be more impressive if he did it after doing Incline Press, Bench Press, and Decline Press. You need complete chest development or else you may eventually get hurt. :dunno:

[LOK]

I have seen people get hurt doing flys..

IMO it is more of a finishing lift.. after some heavy pressing motions..

I mean.. doesn't turd boy Bench?

[Buddy Rydell]

Nope, he doesn't bench or do anything else for his chest apparently. Kinda dumb because you need complete chest development to protect against injury. But that's ok because he says I'm a liar. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

Untwist your panties, Tiny Turdy. You definitely have a hair or two stuck in them, and it's making you pissy. If you didn't know that I lift heavy weights, then you haven't been reading the threads in here, and it follows from there that you don't know what you're talking about. :lol:

I was curling 45s for sets of 10 when I was 20. That's 15 years ago. Heck, 10 years ago, I could dumbbell bench press 100s for 8, and I wasn't training specifically for that...I was supersetting with flyes to shape up after exams.

I just think a grown man, if that is what you are (which would be surprising because you sound like a teenager measuring yourself against men and getting mad when you don't measure up), should be lifting more than a measly couple of 60lb dumbbells in chest exercises. And now you're saying you can't even do that.

Sounds like someone is upset for realizing that they are weak. Not everyone is cut out to be strong. Don't get mad about it, Turdy! You could still play pingpong, right?

I'll still be plugging away at the heavy weights at the end of the year, and I'll be glad to show you. :dunno:

15 years ago you were in your prime, unless you age like a fine wine.....in which you must be going through your second child hood :doh: . 45's curling? I thought you were He-man :lol: What happened to the 120's :rolleyes: 100's on benching? Again, that's not butterflies now is it :nono: How many posts will it take until you see you are the one bragging about lifting weight, in which so far.......it is all talk, and two, when you were prime it wasn't alot :notallthere: I sound like a teenager, but I'm not the one who is talking about pink weights, nor bragging about how much I can lift more than you. You can post a video now doing WELL over 60 pound BUTTERFLIES correctly, then you can post curling well over 60 pound dumbells, NOW :laughing:

[Tyler Durden]

No, I'd be patting the top of your head while you're bringing your mother a beer as she nibbles my balls! Are you sure you're not a teenage girl? That would explain the anger and inability to lift weights over 40lbs. :lol:

I'm a teenage girl because you want to smack me? :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

Seeing as how I can cheat curl 175, powerclean more than 205, and do 10 chinups at a bodyweight of 220lbs, it's not hard to believe. :dunno:

People should do what they say they can do. :dunno: :dunno:

I can cheat curl 175, what are you bragging about :notallthere: What the hell does that have to do with what I said?

[Tyler Durden]

let me say if we are talking purely "FLYS" then 60 is a lot

dumbell presses... it's not


flys are really for bodybuilders or bitches though

That's what the hell I've been saying :notallthere:

And to stop further madness, no......I am not saying that's alot of weight. I am saying that's where I stop and that's proof I must be in fairly good shape. The MAJORITY of people cannot lift that right off the bat, this is a fact. Personally I have never seen anyone do that without working out, but I will concede I have not seen every person workout :dunno: If you guys think it's pussy, then fine......I am not in shape enough to do it easily 6 times, give me a month or two :dunno: I'm confident I can do 50's now, but I will try tomorrow :blobbox: Keep bringing me my motivation, I appreciate it :popcorn: Maybe you will get it in a few pages :rolleyes:

[Tyler Durden]

It's not that much weight if it is the only heavy chest exercise you do. He doesn't do anything else for chest apparently. It'd be more impressive if he did it after doing Incline Press, Bench Press, and Decline Press. You need complete chest development or else you may eventually get hurt. :dunno:

Why did you assume I didn't do other chest exercises :popcorn: I only said I don't do benchpresses, and I listed I do several chest exercises :dunno: I constantly alternate to keep my muscles shocked, alternate weekly, twice a week since you can't read.

[Tyler Durden]

I have seen people get hurt doing flys..

IMO it is more of a finishing lift.. after some heavy pressing motions..

I mean.. doesn't turd boy Bench?

Incline and decline only on the bench. I also do cable curls for chest, and in the summer I do flies in the water after a chest workout too......I also do vertical butterflies with my Smith Machine. Not all at once, but I mix it up. I do multiple exercises, multiple ways a week.......for each muscle group.

[Tyler Durden]

Nope, he doesn't bench or do anything else for his chest apparently. Kinda dumb because you need complete chest development to protect against injury. But that's ok because he says I'm a liar. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You are, no video of you doing 120's on butterflies 6 times, no video of you curling 120's 6 times. Until you do, you are a liar. Extraordinary "strength" requires extraordinary PROOF :warning:

[Tyler Durden]

Nope, he doesn't bench or do anything else for his chest apparently. Kinda dumb because you need complete chest development to protect against injury. But that's ok because he says I'm a liar. :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://fightbeat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=553829&postcount=85

More lies from the liar :bears:

[Tyler Durden]

flys are really for bodybuilders or bitches though

I like them because I think it has given me speed and maybe a little power with my hooks :dunno: if it doesn't and it's all in my head.....it's ok because I like the movement. Like I said, I don't try to go body builder type of weights like Buddy does :doh: You can't if you want to box Cruiser, correct? :dunno: :warning:

[Buddy Rydell]

15 years ago you were in your prime, unless you age like a fine wine.....in which you must be going through your second child hood :doh: . 45's curling? I thought you were He-man :lol: What happened to the 120's :rolleyes: 100's on benching? Again, that's not butterflies now is it :nono: How many posts will it take until you see you are the one bragging about lifting weight, in which so far.......it is all talk, and two, when you were prime it wasn't alot :notallthere: I sound like a teenager, but I'm not the one who is talking about pink weights, nor bragging about how much I can lift more than you. You can post a video now doing WELL over 60 pound BUTTERFLIES correctly, then you can post curling well over 60 pound dumbells, NOW :laughing:

15 years ago I was in my prime? Nope, I didn't stop growing heightwise til I was around 25. People in my family age slowly. As for the rest, read the posts. As far as prime goes for strength, different people have different primes. I doubt I've reached mine. Fred Hatfield was 45 when he squatted 1,013lbs.

As for posting videos and such, now you're spinning worse than IandI. First it was the end of 2008 and now you want to try and goad me into posting a video in January. Are you that desperate for something to jerk off to, Tiny? :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

I'm a teenage girl because you want to smack me? :lol:

WTF are you talking about? Do you have a self-persecution complex? :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

You are, no video of you doing 120's on butterflies 6 times, no video of you curling 120's 6 times. Until you do, you are a liar. Extraordinary "strength" requires extraordinary PROOF :warning:

Listen to this fucking horseshit. :laughing:

I'm a liar until I post videos on the net? Dude, you're fucked in the head. :lol: :lol:

I said I could get that no problem by the end of the year, which I will. Now you're just trying to be a buzzkill. Talk about desperate for attention. Get yourself some work ethic and stop whining about other peoples' strength. :lol: :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

15 years ago you were in your prime, unless you age like a fine wine.....in which you must be going through your second child hood :doh: . 45's curling? I thought you were He-man :lol: What happened to the 120's :rolleyes: 100's on benching? Again, that's not butterflies now is it :nono: How many posts will it take until you see you are the one bragging about lifting weight, in which so far.......it is all talk, and two, when you were prime it wasn't alot :notallthere: I sound like a teenager, but I'm not the one who is talking about pink weights, nor bragging about how much I can lift more than you. You can post a video now doing WELL over 60 pound BUTTERFLIES correctly, then you can post curling well over 60 pound dumbells, NOW :laughing:

Hilarious. You sound like a jealous bitch. You're talking about prime and such, when it is known that many people gain strength right into their 40s. Talking about what I was doing then as opposed to now. Dude, people gain strength over time, and I made that point in this thread if you had the brains to go back and look.

And frankly you DO sound like a teenager, daring me to post something now or you'll call me a liar? Big fucking deal. I lift weights for enjoyment and health, not to validate my lifts for you whenever you feel like whining about them.:lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

You are, no video of you doing 120's on butterflies 6 times, no video of you curling 120's 6 times. Until you do, you are a liar. Extraordinary "strength" requires extraordinary PROOF :warning:

WTF? Did you have a mental breakdown? I never said I curled 120lb dumbbells 6 times. :doh: :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

15 years ago I was in my prime? Nope, I didn't stop growing heightwise til I was around 25. People in my family age slowly. As for the rest, read the posts. As far as prime goes for strength, different people have different primes. I doubt I've reached mine. Fred Hatfield was 45 when he squatted 1,013lbs.

As for posting videos and such, now you're spinning worse than IandI. First it was the end of 2008 and now you want to try and goad me into posting a video in January. Are you that desperate for something to jerk off to, Tiny? :lol:

You never stopped growing? You NEVER started :laughing:

Let me get this staright, 40 is the new 20 :laughing: I guess getting :old: is pretty tough to deal with with some people :doh:

I'm not trying to goad you into anything, I exposed you as a fraud and an exaggerator. Lieing on the net is childish and serves no purpose, but to each his own :notallthere:

[Tyler Durden]

WTF are you talking about? Do you have a self-persecution complex? :lol:

I think you have an inferiority complex, as most midgets do........which would explain the lies you make on the net. This must be humiliating getting exposed like this.

[Tyler Durden]

Listen to this fucking horseshit. :laughing:

I'm a liar until I post videos on the net? Dude, you're fucked in the head. :lol:

I said I could get that no problem by the end of the year, which I will. Now you're just trying to be a buzzkill. Talk about desperate for attention. Get yourself some work ethic and stop whining about other peoples' strength. :lol: :dunno:

YOU were making fun of the weight I said I would lift and could do that EASILY because of how much you lift NOW. So you need to show me up right now or be a fraud :dunno: Anyone who claims to do something much, much better than another person needs to offer proof, or be exposed as a lying fraud, simple net rules :dunno: You make a claim, you HAVE to back it up :dunno: You said you are extraordinarily strong and that weight ain't shit, PROVE IT :laughing:

[Tyler Durden]

Hilarious. You sound like a jealous bitch. You're talking about prime and such, when it is known that many people gain strength right into their 40s. Talking about what I was doing then as opposed to now. Dude, people gain strength over time, and I made that point in this thread if you had the brains to go back and look.

And frankly you DO sound like a teenager, daring me to post something now or you'll call me a liar? Big fucking deal. I lift weights for enjoyment and health, not to validate my lifts for you whenever you feel like whining about them.:lol:

Nothing but talk then :lol: You the man :clap:

[Tyler Durden]

WTF? Did you have a mental breakdown? I never said I curled 120lb dumbbells 6 times. :doh: :lol:

So what can you do right now bigtime? Oh wait......whatever the number you make up, you won't prove it :laughing: Teenagers pull this crap, and you're mid thirties? Pppffftttt....Yeah, you sure are strong, freakishly strong :old: I bet you got the biggest cock on the net too :lol:

[Kaliber44]

:lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

You never stopped growing? You NEVER started :laughing:

Let me get this staright, 40 is the new 20 :laughing: I guess getting :old: is pretty tough to deal with with some people :doh:

I'm not trying to goad you into anything, I exposed you as a fraud and an exaggerator. Lieing on the net is childish and serves no purpose, but to each his own :notallthere:

Pathetic. You assume that because you are a weakling, everyone else is? Whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. I'm not outright calling you a liar because you might very well be a pansy who can barely muscle 60lb dumbbells. :dunno: :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

I think you have an inferiority complex, as most midgets do........which would explain the lies you make on the net. This must be humiliating getting exposed like this.

Why would I have an inferiority complex? I'm not the one screeching "You're a liar" and whining about only being able to do 60lb dumbbells. :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

YOU were making fun of the weight I said I would lift and could do that EASILY because of how much you lift NOW. So you need to show me up right now or be a fraud :dunno: Anyone who claims to do something much, much better than another person needs to offer proof, or be exposed as a lying fraud, simple net rules :dunno: You make a claim, you HAVE to back it up :dunno: You said you are extraordinarily strong and that weight ain't shit, PROVE IT :laughing:

Anyone who claims to do much better than another person needs to offer proof? So when you talk weights with a person at home, work, or wherever and they casually mention that they are stronger, or in this case MUCH stronger, then you demand proof right away? BULLSHIT! :lol:

Did I claim extraordinarily strong? What is strong for one person isn't strong for another. There is at least one guy at work who can squat and deadlift 600lbs. THAT would be extraordinarily strong to me. :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

So what can you do right now bigtime? Oh wait......whatever the number you make up, you won't prove it :laughing: Teenagers pull this crap, and you're mid thirties? Pppffftttt....Yeah, you sure are strong, freakishly strong :old: I bet you got the biggest cock on the net too :lol:

Apparently it's big compared to yours or you wouldn't be begging for proof. :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

Anyone who claims to do much bet