Felix Trinidad Jr vs Roy Jones Jr: News and Video thread!

[Hex-One]

Check out Don Kings Tito/RJ video! It got me hyped for this fight!


http://www.donking.com/images/ArticleImages/64.jpg


http://www.donking.com/events/post24.htm#openvid


I will also be updating this thread as we get closer to the fight!:bears:

[steve_dave]

Roy :bears:

[Joe King]

Sweet!

[cupey alto]

I can't wait for Tito to knock his teeth out

[Rabid Kimba]

Go Tito, go!!!!

Man, I can't believe I'm actually cheering for a rican, lol.

:lol:

[LOK]

I just can not see any way in which Tito has ANY SHOT at not getting KO'd

[Hex-One]

Go Tito, go!!!!

Man, I can't believe I'm actually cheering for a rican, lol.

:lol::lol: :bears:

This fight is going to be hard to watch! Tito and RJ are 2 of my favorite fights of all-time. But I side with my countryman here. I just hope neither gets hurt.

[dsimon3387]

:lol: :bears:

This fight is going to be hard to watch! Tito and RJ are 2 of my favorite fights of all-time. But I side with my countryman here. I just hope neither gets hurt.

dsimon writes:

Which one? :dunno: :lol: :lol:

[Hex-One]

dsimon writes:

Which one? :dunno: :lol: :lol:

Felix Tito Trinidad Jr!:bears:

[James68]

Tito in his prime didn't belong in the same ring with Hopkins. Surely even a safety first Roy will win this one.

[Erratic]

War Trinidad!!! (he's probably getting dominated though)

[LOK]

thats what I'm sayin

and does Roy even need to be "safety first" againest a blow up fat welter?

Tito in his prime didn't belong in the same ring with Hopkins. Surely even a safety first Roy will win this one.

[Hex-One]

thats what I'm sayin

and does Roy even need to be "safety first" againest a blow up fat welter?

There are too many variables in this fight! We all know both fighters are past their best. We need to wait and see how Tito looks @170. Also how the layoff will effect Tito. Will 170 hurt RJ? Can Tito hurt RJ? Too many variables. We have to wait and see.

[LOK]

There are too many variables in this fight! We all know both fighters are past their best. We need to wait and see how Tito looks @170. Also how the layoff will effect Tito. Will 170 hurt RJ? Can Tito hurt RJ? Too many variables. We have to wait and see.

variables for sure..

but to me, Tito will NOT be a one punch KO guy at that weight

And 2) Tito will NOT be able to take Roy's shot at ALL!!

[Hex-One]

variables for sure..

but to me, Tito will NOT be a one punch KO guy at that weight

And 2) Tito will NOT be able to take Roy's shot at ALL!!

When has RJ become a 1 punch ko artist? Tito has proven to take a better shot at higher weights. Yes he got stopped @ 160 but it took a 12 round beat-down. RJ is the one with a suspect chin here. Tito's power is not proven @170 but we shall see.

[LOK]

Roy can hit!

the thing here is.. even as shot as Roy might be..

he is FASTER without a doubt.. Faster than Tito and faster than anyone Tito has ever fought

He hits harder than anyone Tito has ever fought

Roy has been hit by MUCH harder hitters and bigger guys than Tito



When has RJ become a 1 punch ko artist? Tito has proven to take a better shot at higher weights. Yes he got stopped @ 160 but it took a 12 round beat-down. RJ is the one with a suspect chin here. Tito's power is not proven @170 but we shall see.

[Rabid Kimba]

:lol: :bears:



:cheer:

[Hex-One]

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</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 20px; PADDING-TOP: 5px" vAlign=top bgColor=#ffffff>ROY JONES JR HAVING TROUBLE WITH WEIGHT? (http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article14576.html)
By G. Leon

</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 20px" vAlign=top bgColor=#ffffff>Last night former pound for pound king Roy Jones Jr informed Boxingtalk.com that he is having a tougher than expected time making weight for his eagerly anticipated clash with Puerto Rican legend Felix Trinidad, slated to take place at Madison Square Garden in less than two weeks. "It's been a bit tougher than I expected. I'm going to get there, but I ain't think it was going to be this hard," said Jones. Full exclusive interview with his Royness to follow first thing Monday morning, so stay tuned. Remember where you heard it first! (4:27 PM EST)


This is nothing new but interesting. If the fight goes tot he later rounds, it will be interesting to see how RJ is affected
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[valdosta]

When has RJ become a 1 punch ko artist?

When he fought at 160 and 168. This fight is at 170 but Trinidad will not take Roy's punches well.

[Xplosive]

When has RJ become a 1 punch ko artist? Tito has proven to take a better shot at higher weights. Yes he got stopped @ 160 but it took a 12 round beat-down. RJ is the one with a suspect chin here. Tito's power is not proven @170 but we shall see.

Roy was a bigger puncher at 160-168 than Tito was at any weight.

[ILLUMINATI]

I hate this fight...:shit: *even if Tito wins..99.5% that he won't win..but if he did win, so what? What is he going to do?? retire again? :dunno: If he could at least make 160 he could challenge Pavlik for the title...but he can't even make that weight...:doh:

[atomicdOGg34]

this isnt even gonna be close imo, roy should smoke him if he doesnt decide to carry him for the full 12

[Beyond the Grave]

This could be a good night for Roy Jones fans.Trinidad is the type of opponent that can make Roy look like his younger self again.

[Rubio MHS]

Jones had a shitload of trouble making weight against Tarver the first time, and he still did enough to win the fight. But, shit. No WAY Trinidad beats Antonio Tarver or anyone like that.

[Neil]

This is nothing new but interesting. If the fight goes tot he later rounds, it will be interesting to see how RJ is affected
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the later rounds? like round 2..?

[Rubio MHS]

I don't think it'll go that long.

[Hex-One]

Roy was a bigger puncher at 160-168 than Tito was at any weight. A argument can be made here. Roy's power is based on speed. I think Trinidad is the bigger puncher.

[IMDAZED]

A argument can be made here. Roy's power is based on speed. I think Trinidad is the bigger puncher.

False.

[Rubio MHS]

A argument can be made here. Roy's power is based on speed. I think Trinidad is the bigger puncher.That's stupid and wrong. Trinidad might have been a better puncher, pound-for-pound, but head-to-head, at 170, Roy Jones is faster, stronger, more accurate and simply better - in every single way. Trinidad's going D-O-W-N!

[Hex-One]

That's stupid and wrong. Trinidad might have been a better puncher, pound-for-pound, but head-to-head, at 170, Roy Jones is faster, stronger, more accurate and simply better - in every single way. Trinidad's going D-O-W-N! Well thats what I meant. You guys might as well stamp the "S" on Roy's chest and call him superman. You guys are talking as though Roy has never been KTFO. He's 39 years old now, He's not the Roy of old. :doh:

[Rubio MHS]

Well thats what I meant. You guys might as well stamp the "S" on Roy's chest and call him superman. You guys are talking as though Roy has never been KTFO. He's 39 years old now, He's not the Roy of old. :doh:Yeah, but Trinidad sucks, and he was never any good above 154. This fight's at 170, not pound-for-pound or prime-vs.-prime. Jones is going to win. Period.

[Erratic]

Roy might be drained @ 170. He hasn't been that low for a fight since 1996.

Other than that possibility, I see the chances for Tito being extremely slim.

Tito hasn't fought in nearly 3 years, and he looked terrible the last time out. Roy at least has been semi-active, and beating fringe contenders. Fringe light-heavyweight contenders, while Tito has never fought above 160 in his career.

Tito has always been vulnerable to a straight right hand. Back in his prime, he made the predominantly left-hand happy Oscar De La Hoya look very good with his straight right. Carr and Reid dropped him with it, Hopkins had a field day with it, hell even Cherifi landed a couple of nice rights, one that stopped Tito's attack when he had just dropped Cherifi. Roy's right hand is still very fast, and he's a bigger guy than anyone who has hit Tito with that punch before.

[LOK]

he's a bigger guy than anyone who has hit Tito with that punch before.

AND FASTER

[Hex-One]

Yeah, but Trinidad sucks, and he was never any good above 154. This fight's at 170, not pound-for-pound or prime-vs.-prime. Jones is going to win. Period.:nono: Why was he never good above 154? Becuause he lost to one of the greatest Middlweights of all-time Bernard Hopkins? Because he lost to a p4p fighter in Wright? Please explain!

[Hex-One]

Roy might be drained @ 170. He hasn't been that low for a fight since 1996.

Other than that possibility, I see the chances for Tito being extremely slim.

Tito hasn't fought in nearly 3 years, and he looked terrible the last time out. Roy at least has been semi-active, and beating fringe contenders. Fringe light-heavyweight contenders, while Tito has never fought above 160 in his career.

Tito has always been vulnerable to a straight right hand. Back in his prime, he made the predominantly left-hand happy Oscar De La Hoya look very good with his straight right. Carr and Reid dropped him with it, Hopkins had a field day with it, hell even Cherifi landed a couple of nice rights, one that stopped Tito's attack when he had just dropped Cherifi. Roy's right hand is still very fast, and he's a bigger guy than anyone who has hit Tito with that punch before. Good post! I can respect this! :bears:

[Rubio MHS]

:nono: Why was he never good above 154? Becuause he lost to one of the greatest Middlweights of all-time Bernard Hopkins? Because he lost to a p4p fighter in Wright? Please explain!Because he's only won three fights above 154:

William Joppy: Faded champion who looked like shit in every performance he had around the same time.
Hacine Cherfi: Tomato can who lost every meaningful fight he had except for that one time the judges stole one for him.
Ricardo Mayorga: Fading former welterweight champion. Shouldn't really count as a "middleweight" win for Trinifag.Now, how in your pathetic little mind does that add up to someone who can beat Roy Jones at 170?

[LOK]

Because he's only won three fights above 154:

William Joppy: Faded champion who looked like shit in every performance he had around the same time.
Hacine Cherfi: Tomato can who lost every meaningful fight he had except for that one time the judges stole one for him.
Ricardo Mayorga: Fading former welterweight champion. Shouldn't really count as a "middleweight" win for Trinifag.Now, how in your pathetic little mind does that add up to someone who can beat Roy Jones at 170?

:eeeek:

How does his opinion make him have a "Pathetic little mind" ? :eeeek:

[Joe King]

:eeeek:

How does his opinion make him have a "Pathetic little mind" ? :eeeek:

Because they don't share the same views?:dunno:

[Rubio MHS]

:eeeek:

How does his opinion make him have a "Pathetic little mind" ? :eeeek:He's stupid and closed-minded. His opinion is a result of that, not the cause of that, of course.

[LOK]

:lol:

I love this forum
Because they don't share the same views?:dunno:

[TKO]

Because he's only won three fights above 154:

William Joppy: Faded champion who looked like shit in every performance he had around the same time.
Hacine Cherfi: Tomato can who lost every meaningful fight he had except for that one time the judges stole one for him.
Ricardo Mayorga: Fading former welterweight champion. Shouldn't really count as a "middleweight" win for Trinifag.Now, how in your pathetic little mind does that add up to someone who can beat Roy Jones at 170?


Yeah and Roy has been so impressive lately, get of that soap box, Jones is SHOT.

[meetthefeebles]

Yeah and Roy has been so impressive lately, get of that soap box, Jones is SHOT.

They both are. Absolutely shot to pieces.

This fight is a total parcel of balls, it really is. And the result, whatever it is, will settle nothing, because both fighters are so past their respective primes that the result will be almost utterly meaningless. Even if Jones absolutely kills Tito, which I suppose is the most likely result of this 'fight', it means almost nothing, other than:

Completely shot RJJ> Completely shot Trinidad :doh:

When you think of how good 2007 was in terms of PRIME fighters fighting other PRIME fighters, current P4P fighters facing one another and guys trying to unify/clean out divisions, I think it kind of sad that this fight is even taking place. I mean, seriously, how much more $$$ can either of these guys need right now? :dunno:

I expect RJJ to win easily, because at least he is fighting near enough the weight he fought at during his prime, and I don't think Trinidad has enough power to trouble the main foundation of RJJ's demise: the weakening (dramatically) of his chin and the increased abilities of his opponents to find it.

But why people care is beyond me...

MTF

[LOK]

MTF my boy..

you are right that they are both shot.. but it's still exciting!!

I think Shot Roy still will look great and SODOMIZE shot Tito

They both are. Absolutely shot to pieces.

This fight is a total parcel of balls, it really is. And the result, whatever it is, will settle nothing, because both fighters are so past their respective primes that the result will be almost utterly meaningless. Even if Jones absolutely kills Tito, which I suppose is the most likely result of this 'fight', it means almost nothing, other than:

Completely shot RJJ> Completely shot Trinidad :doh:

When you think of how good 2007 was in terms of PRIME fighters fighting other PRIME fighters, current P4P fighters facing one another and guys trying to unify/clean out divisions, I think it kind of sad that this fight is even taking place. I mean, seriously, how much more $$$ can either of these guys need right now? :dunno:

I expect RJJ to win easily, because at least he is fighting near enough the weight he fought at during his prime, and I don't think Trinidad has enough power to trouble the main foundation of RJJ's demise: the weakening (dramatically) of his chin and the increased abilities of his opponents to find it.

But why people care is beyond me...

MTF

[TKO]

They both are. Absolutely shot to pieces.

This fight is a total parcel of balls, it really is. And the result, whatever it is, will settle nothing, because both fighters are so past their respective primes that the result will be almost utterly meaningless. Even if Jones absolutely kills Tito, which I suppose is the most likely result of this 'fight', it means almost nothing, other than:

Completely shot RJJ> Completely shot Trinidad :doh:

When you think of how good 2007 was in terms of PRIME fighters fighting other PRIME fighters, current P4P fighters facing one another and guys trying to unify/clean out divisions, I think it kind of sad that this fight is even taking place. I mean, seriously, how much more $$$ can either of these guys need right now? :dunno:

I expect RJJ to win easily, because at least he is fighting near enough the weight he fought at during his prime, and I don't think Trinidad has enough power to trouble the main foundation of RJJ's demise: the weakening (dramatically) of his chin and the increased abilities of his opponents to find it.

But why people care is beyond me...

MTF


You are totally right Tito has no business fighting Jones but I cant help being interested in this fight. Jones a likely winner but I'll be rooting for Tito.

[Andrew]

You are totally right Tito has no business fighting Jones but I cant help being interested in this fight. Jones a likely winner but I'll be rooting for Tito.

This fight has little to no relevance in the grand scheme of things, which makes it hard to get excited for imo. Not to mention nuthuggers like Hex will spew rubbish for weeks after the fight.

[meetthefeebles]

This fight has little to no relevance in the grand scheme of things, which makes it hard to get excited for imo. Not to mention nuthuggers like Hex will spew rubbish for weeks after the fight.

:lol: :clap:

[meetthefeebles]

MTF my boy..

you are right that they are both shot.. but it's still exciting!!

I think Shot Roy still will look great and SODOMIZE shot Tito

For once LOK, I agree with you... :eeeek: :lol:

[Erratic]

Yeah and Roy has been so impressive lately, get of that soap box, Jones is SHOT.

Roy's at least been semi-active and beating fringe contenders at light heavyweight. That's much better work of late than Trinidad, who's been out since May 2005, and never above 160.

[Hex-One]

http://www.primerahora.com/XStatic/primerahora/images/espanol/080109titont2.jpg

Trinidad: Roy can't keep promise!
By Karl Freitag
Ring legend Felix Trinidad isn't too concerned about the pledge of Roy Jones Jr. to knock him out. "It's a promise he will not be able to fulfill," said Tito today. "It's just one more fighter to say something like that. I don't care about what he's saying right now." Tito said he expects to stop Roy but will be ready to go twelve rounds. "I think that I am a better fighter and I will show him that on January 19th."
Wednesday, January 9 2008

[puerto rock]

^^^I love Tito but he is so delusional. I don't see how he comes up with this vision of beating Roy Jones after being HUMILIATED at 160 by Winky Wright and then retiring for 2 years and putting on lots of weight.


The only thing that can prevent Roy from KOing Tito would be his own fear of getting his own chin checked.

[Rubio MHS]

^^^I love Tito but he is so delusional. I don't see how he comes up with this vision of beating Roy Jones after being HUMILIATED at 160 by Winky Wright and then retiring for 2 years and putting on lots of weight.


The only thing that can prevent Roy from KOing Tito would be his own fear of getting his own chin checked.He's not delusional. You have to convince yourself that you're going to win, or you never will.

[Hex-One]

http://www.fightnews.com/trinidad_miranda.jpg

It is rare to see the always cool Felix Trinidad rattled at something his opponent said, but there was little question after today’s phone teleconference that he was not pleased with Roy Jones Jr.’s promise of a knockout and a prediction of a fourth round KO in their upcoming fight at Madison Square Gardens.

“It is a promise that will not be fulfilled.” Trinidad responded icily. Although Trinidad stated that he didn’t care what Jones said, there was little question that Trinidad took umbrage at all of Jones’ talk of dominance.

“At the press conference he said he was going to KO me in four rounds,” Trinidad said through his translator, Jose “Pepe” Ramos, “I said that would be impossible since I was going to knock him out in the second.”

With two fighters with some of the most dramatic knockouts of the decade to their credit promising knockout victory’s, it seems almost a certainty that their will be fireworks on January 19th. But many insiders feel that a slugfest might just benefit the smaller Trinidad, who has show trouble with boxers in the past, and who has never failed to capitalize when he stepped in the ring with an opponent whose chin was suspect.

“Every weakness he will bring into the fight, I will discover in the ring and take advantage of,” Trinidad commented, “He has trouble with punchers, and I can punch.”

For fans of the Puerto Rican superstar, it already appears that the fire that was missing in his last fight, a lopsided decision loss to Winky Wright, has resurfaced. He spoke with confidence and a renewed appreciation for the sport. When asked what prompted him to comeback he responded, “First I had to consider the fans, they were always calling on me to fight again wherever I went, then there was my promoter Don King, who was pursuing me and trying to get me to comeback. Finally there was myself.”

Although many insiders wonder if Trinidad’s renowned power would make the jump up to 170-pounds, he promises that fans will see the Trinidad of old, devastating punching power and all.

“I feel that I still have my punching power (at this weight), and that is something you never lose. People will see (on January 19th) that I still have the power.”

[ILLUMINATI]

http://www.fightnews.com/trinidad_miranda.jpg

It is rare to see the always cool Felix Trinidad rattled at something his opponent said, but there was little question after today’s phone teleconference that he was not pleased with Roy Jones Jr.’s promise of a knockout and a prediction of a fourth round KO in their upcoming fight at Madison Square Gardens.

“It is a promise that will not be fulfilled.” Trinidad responded icily. Although Trinidad stated that he didn’t care what Jones said, there was little question that Trinidad took umbrage at all of Jones’ talk of dominance.

“At the press conference he said he was going to KO me in four rounds,” Trinidad said through his translator, Jose “Pepe” Ramos, “I said that would be impossible since I was going to knock him out in the second.”

With two fighters with some of the most dramatic knockouts of the decade to their credit promising knockout victory’s, it seems almost a certainty that their will be fireworks on January 19th. But many insiders feel that a slugfest might just benefit the smaller Trinidad, who has show trouble with boxers in the past, and who has never failed to capitalize when he stepped in the ring with an opponent whose chin was suspect.

“Every weakness he will bring into the fight, I will discover in the ring and take advantage of,” Trinidad commented, “He has trouble with punchers, and I can punch.”

For fans of the Puerto Rican superstar, it already appears that the fire that was missing in his last fight, a lopsided decision loss to Winky Wright, has resurfaced. He spoke with confidence and a renewed appreciation for the sport. When asked what prompted him to comeback he responded, “First I had to consider the fans, they were always calling on me to fight again wherever I went, then there was my promoter Don King, who was pursuing me and trying to get me to comeback. Finally there was myself.”

Although many insiders wonder if Trinidad’s renowned power would make the jump up to 170-pounds, he promises that fans will see the Trinidad of old, devastating punching power and all.

“I feel that I still have my punching power (at this weight), and that is something you never lose. People will see (on January 19th) that I still have the power.”


:doh: it's not the "punching power" it's can you deliver it....Roy will not stand infront of Trinidad and let him land...the only punch that Trinidad could possibly hurt Jones will be with the left hook...Jones will see it coming and do whatever to avoid it..

[Hex-One]

:doh: it's not the "punching power" it's can you deliver it....Roy will not stand infront of Trinidad and let him land...the only punch that Trinidad could possibly hurt Jones will be with the left hook...Jones will see it coming and do whatever to avoid it.. If Tito gets KTFO it's his fault! He's the dumb ass that came out retirement. He better be ready. I hope he's not fucking around.

[ILLUMINATI]

If Tito gets KTFO it's his fault! He's the dumb ass that came out retirement. He better be ready. I hope he's not fucking around.

Of course he will be READY....best condition of his life...best training camp...all that bullshit...but it won't make a difference...he cannot win....IMHO...

[LOK]

Tito is going to be Laid the F out

[Hex-One]

Tito is going to be Laid the F out Fuck it! Let him get Flattened! He wanted this fight so lets see what happenes!

[LOK]

:lol:

I agree..

it's silly to think he'll be "in the best condition of his life"

he is about 30lbs north of that.. Nor is Roy in the best condition but Roy is going to Flatten Tito

Fuck it! Let him get Flattened! He wanted this fight so lets see what happenes!

[CleanYourClock]

If Tito gets KTFO it's his fault! He's the dumb ass that came out retirement. He better be ready. I hope he's not fucking around.

Very true .... If Tito had any sense , he would have set a fight with Pavlik.
I would actually give him a chance there ...

[LOK]

Pavlik would K him the F out!!

IMO right now.. he has ZERO chance with either.. but I almost give him more a chance with Roy.. but that is still no chance

Very true .... If Tito had any sense , he would have set a fight with Pavlik.
I would actually give him a chance there ...

[Hex-One]

Pavlik would K him the F out!!

IMO right now.. he has ZERO chance with either.. but I almost give him more a chance with Roy.. but that is still no chance:lol: Huh?

[LOK]

I'm sayin.. he has tito is gettin KO'd by Roy.. and he'd get KO'd by Pavlik..

:lol: Huh?

[CleanYourClock]

Pavlik would K him the F out!!

IMO right now.. he has ZERO chance with either.. but I almost give him more a chance with Roy.. but that is still no chance

My reasons for saying that is for Starters , Pavlik fights at 160 , not 170.
He is also slow and hittable.
Tito might see them coming and might be able to land a few of his own.

[Hex-One]

My reasons for saying that is for Starters , Pavlik fights at 160 , not 170.
He is also slow and hittable.
Tito might see them coming and might be able to land a few of his own. Exactly! Tito hits harder than Tylor and Pavlik was damn near out in round 2.

[atomicdOGg34]

Exactly! Tito hits harder than Tylor and Pavlik was damn near out in round 2.

tito hits harder than taylor??

uummm what? any proof of this?

[Tam Tam]

tito hits harder than taylor??

uummm what? any proof of this?
THre's no proof that anyone hits harder than anybody else. But Joppy did go to the ER after Trinidad hit him. He gave interviews post-Taylor.

[atomicdOGg34]

THre's no proof that anyone hits harder than anybody else. But Joppy did go to the ER after Trinidad hit him. He gave interviews post-Taylor.

could hook them up to some psi machine, like ivan drago :lol:

[*Z*]

THre's no proof that anyone hits harder than anybody else. But Joppy did go to the ER after Trinidad hit him. He gave interviews post-Taylor.

Plaster hand wraps will do that to a guy.

[Tam Tam]

Plaster hand wraps will do that to a guy.
That got old in '02.

[Hex-One]

That got old in '02.:lol: :bears:

[LOK]

I think we need to break out the "OMEGA SCOPE"

CHECK YO QQs

[*Z*]

That got old in '02.

It's never old.

[Method]

Check out Don Kings Tito/RJ video! It got me hyped for this fight! - Hex Dumb Dude, you'd be hyped to pick the corn out of Trinidad's bowel movements. You've been drooling over him since Houseofboxing.com days.

[Hex-One]

Dude, you'd be hyped to pick the corn out of Trinidad's bowel movements. You've been drooling over him since Houseofboxing.com days.You posted in houseofboxing? Damn that was back in the day!

[*Z*]

Was that before Boxing.com ?

[Method]

Yeah...I remember you back in the houseofboxing days, Hex. You were one proud Rican then too.

All good.

[Hex-One]

Yeah...I remember you back in the houseofboxing days, Hex. You were one proud Rican then too.

All good.:bears: Damn you have good memory! That was years ago. Them were the good old days:lol: