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Xplosive
01-06-2008, 01:49 AM
Maybe.:doh:

Joe King
01-06-2008, 01:52 AM
Who cares? 147 is where it's at.

Kaliber44
01-06-2008, 01:53 AM
Maybe.:doh:

How is that bandwagon working out for you? :lol:

Xplosive
01-06-2008, 01:58 AM
How is that bandwagon working out for you? :lol:

I'm still a fan and believer in Paulie. I honestly think ring rust played a role in his struggle tonight. He clearly wasnt as sharp as he was vs Ndou.

I still think that at his best he can provide problems for Hatton, and Witter.

valdosta
01-06-2008, 02:06 AM
Sure he can. It's not like Witter looks dynamic everytime he is in the ring either.

Rubio MHS
01-06-2008, 02:33 AM
I'm wondering if the jr. welterweight division, in its 87-year history, has ever been so lame.

Kaliber44
01-06-2008, 02:34 AM
I'm wondering if the jr. welterweight division, in its 87-year history, has ever been so lame.

go look it up. it's not like you have a life or anything :lol:

Rubio MHS
01-06-2008, 02:39 AM
go look it up. it's not like you have a life or anything :lol:We're both hanging out with a bunch of guys, talking about boxing on a Saturday night. I'm going through a divorce. What's your excuse for being a loser?

Kaliber44
01-06-2008, 02:48 AM
We're both hanging out with a bunch of guys, talking about boxing on a Saturday night. I'm going through a divorce. What's your excuse for being a loser?

i have the flu fuck you :lol:

Rubio MHS
01-06-2008, 03:00 AM
i have the flu fuck you :lol:You caught an STD from a transsexual hooker? Damn, you sure are Polish.

Attraction
01-06-2008, 08:05 AM
come on, in all seriousness paulie isnt on witters level and after seeing hatton ko'd by a counter hook, youd have to favour witter who would be landing counters all night.

TKO
01-06-2008, 10:32 AM
You sound like a broken record, there is no basis to state that Witter or that bum Paulie would beat Ricky. Hatton has one defeat to the best guy around at the moment.

The fatman takes both of these guys out with ease.

Antwuan Maxx
01-06-2008, 10:38 AM
You sound like a broken record, there is no basis to state that Witter or that bum Paulie would beat Ricky. Hatton has one defeat to the best guy around at the moment.

The fatman takes both of these guys out with ease.


When was the last time Fatton took out anyone with ease who wasn't shot?:dunno:

TKO
01-06-2008, 10:45 AM
When was the last time Fatton took out anyone with ease who wasn't shot?:dunno:


Nobody said Kostya or Castillo was shot until they fought hatton.

Witter or Paulie would not have won against Kostya and Castillo would give both a good fight.

Antwuan Maxx
01-06-2008, 10:59 AM
Nobody said Kostya or Castillo was shot until they fought hatton.

Tszyu, no. Castillo, yes. I picked Fatton to stop him for that very reason, I felt he was shot after his lackluster performances against Rolando Reyes and Ngoudjo. Seemed to me going into that fight that the wars with Chico took a lot out of him, which proved correct.

Witter or Paulie would not have won against Kostya and Castillo would give both a good fight.

I don't think Witter or Paulie would have won against Tszyu, but I do think they could have beat that shell of what once was Jose Luis Castillo who Fatton fought. And as I said, I didn't consider Tszyu shot. Nor did I look at that fight as Hatton "taking him out with ease." What I saw was a dead even fight going into the 9th round, with the turning point in the bout coming via a deliberate Fatton left hook to balls (:kick: ), after being dropped with a borderline shot to the midsection (:dunno: ), that the obviously biased hometown ref (:cheer: ) didn't care to acknowledge as a legit shot or a foul (:doh: ).

TKO
01-06-2008, 11:03 AM
Come on dude hatton beat Kostya when no one game him a chance and you admit that Paulie or Witter would have not won that fight.

I didnt think Castill was shot even though he was awfull against Ngoudjo.

I think Hatton V's Paulie/Witter will be good fights but the Fatman is clear favorite in both.

joemul
01-06-2008, 11:06 AM
Tszyu, no. Castillo, yes. I picked Fatton to stop him for that very reason, I felt he was shot after his lackluster performances against Rolando Reyes and Ngoudjo. Seemed to me going into that fight that the wars with Chico took a lot out of him, which proved correct.



I don't think Witter or Paulie would have won against Tszyu, but I do think they could have beat that shell of what once was Jose Luis Castillo who Fatton fought. And as I said, I didn't consider Tszyu shot. Nor did I look at that fight as Hatton "taking him out with ease." What I saw was a dead even fight going into the 9th round, with the turning point in the bout coming via a deliberate Fatton left hook to balls (:kick: ), after being dropped with a borderline shot to the midsection (:dunno: ), that the obviously biased hometown ref (:cheer: ) didn't care to acknowledge as a legit shot or a foul (:doh: ).

Do you not see the irony of using the word 'biased' in this post??:doh:

Antwuan Maxx
01-06-2008, 11:12 AM
Come on dude hatton beat Kostya when no one game him a chance and you admit that Paulie or Witter would have not won that fight.

Listen man, Hatton-Tszyu was a sloppy, clinch and foul filled fight with little to no replay value. Hatton beat Tszyu...unimpressively in my eyes, with a little bit of help from the hometown ref.


I didnt think Castill was shot even though he was awfull against Ngoudjo.

I did and many others did too.

Max Kellerman after the end of Hatton-Castillo : "Those who suggested Castillo was a shot fighter going into this fight, appear to have been right..."

I think Hatton V's Paulie/Witter will be good fights but the Fatman is clear favorite in both.

Clear favorite? Cool. But to suggest he beats them with "ease" is silly to me.


Do you not see the irony of using the word 'biased' in this post??:doh:

About as ironic as the location of the poster posting this. :rolleyes:

TKO
01-06-2008, 11:17 AM
Dont give me that home bollox refs/judges in the states are the most biased in the accross the globe.

Fact of the matter is Hatton beat Kostya who was the #1 at the time. This makes Hatton the #1. Witter/Paulie have done nothing on that level.

Witter wants hatton so he can afford some crab meat and Paulie is calling him out just like any young pup would to the top guy.

Antwuan Maxx
01-06-2008, 11:25 AM
Dont give me that home bollox refs/judges in the states are the most biased in the accross the globe.

How more biased can you get than letting a hometown fighter get away with loading up and shooting a blatant foul to the balls?


Fact of the matter is Hatton beat Kostya who was the #1 at the time. This makes Hatton the #1. Witter/Paulie have done nothing on that level.

We're not talking about accomplishments. We're talking about a potential fight between Fatton and Malignaggi/Witter. And I've seen nothing from Hatton since 2004 that he takes anyone out with "ease."

Witter wants hatton so he can afford some crab meat and Paulie is calling him out just like any young pup would to the top guy.

Cool.

TKO
01-06-2008, 11:29 AM
How more biased can you get than letting a hometown fighter get away with loading up and shooting a blatant foul to the balls?




We're not talking about accomplishments We're talking about a potential fight between Fatton and Malignaggi/Witter. And I've seen nothing from Hatton since 2004 that he takes anyone out with "ease."



Cool.

How do you know that, this is boxing and shit happens you gotta deal with it.

Money mayweather gave hatton all the forearm he could chew on but Im not complaining as Hatton lost to the better guy. Respect where it is due.

I guess we will have to wait on see how these fights turn out.

Antwuan Maxx
01-06-2008, 11:36 AM
How do you know that, this is boxing and shit happens you gotta deal with it.

Are you honestly questioning whether or not Hatton intentionally fouled Tszyu in the 9th round? :eek:

Money mayweather gave hatton all the forearm he could chew on but Im not complaining as Hatton lost to the better guy. Respect where it is due.

Forearm to throat or hook to the balls? Yeah, fair trade. Karma's a biotch, huh.

I guess we will have to wait on see how these fights turn out.

Yup.

TKO
01-06-2008, 11:38 AM
Are you honestly questioning whether or not Hatton intentionally fouled Tszyu in the 9th round? :eek:



Forearm to throat or hook to the balls? Yeah, fair trade. Karma's a biotch, huh.



Yup.

No I honestly cant remember but this is boxing not table tennis.

Antwuan Maxx
01-06-2008, 11:44 AM
No I honestly cant remember but this is boxing not table tennis.

3:00 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XX695yh9FU

But yeah, it's not a tickling contest, is it? :nono: Especially when check hooks are allowed.

Octopus
01-06-2008, 01:48 PM
Dont give me that home bollox refs/judges in the states are the most biased in the accross the globe.
.


Wow,you must have never seen any fights from Germany and Italy I take it??:lol:

TKO
01-06-2008, 02:04 PM
Wow,you must have never seen any fights from Germany and Italy I take it??:lol:


oh i have but most major fights take place in yankland.

Rubio MHS
01-06-2008, 05:07 PM
Dont give me that home bollox refs/judges in the states are the most biased in the accross the globe.That's stupid. I could tell you some stories about fights in Africa, Asia and Germany that would make Dave Parris blush.

ArturoGatti
01-06-2008, 05:13 PM
I'm still a fan and believer in Paulie. I honestly think ring rust played a role in his struggle tonight. He clearly wasnt as sharp as he was vs Ndou.

I still think that at his best he can provide problems for Hatton, and Witter.:lol:

typical Floyd, RJJ fan.

royyjonesjrp4pno1
01-06-2008, 07:08 PM
I don't care how rusty you are you still throw your right hand. I don't think i can remember a fighter who threw so few right hand punches.

puerto rock
01-06-2008, 11:39 PM
^^^Thats what ring rust does. It gets you out of your game and takes your sharpness off. I still think Paulie is a very good fighter and at his absolute best, he can outbox Ricky Hatton or Junior Witter.

TKO
01-07-2008, 04:12 AM
That's stupid. I could tell you some stories about fights in Africa, Asia and Germany that would make Dave Parris blush.

How many major fights take place in these countries...:notallthere:

royyjonesjrp4pno1
01-07-2008, 08:18 AM
^^^Thats what ring rust does. It gets you out of your game and takes your sharpness off. I still think Paulie is a very good fighter and at his absolute best, he can outbox Ricky Hatton or Junior Witter.How many Paulie fights have you seen bro. He never lets his right go. I know his hand is busted up but you still gotta throw it in double digits every round.

Mitchell Kane
01-07-2008, 01:44 PM
I don't care how rusty you are you still throw your right hand. I don't think i can remember a fighter who threw so few right hand punches.

Yeah, he's never had a very good right hand...a lot of times he appears to be pushing it. Malignaggi's offense is so overwhelmingly based on his left jab - which is a very sharp punch, early.

Explosivo
01-07-2008, 09:43 PM
I agree that Paulie would have a chance to win a close decision against Witter.

But what would/will probably happen is that at some point, WItter would hurt Paulie en route to a clear decision win.

I don't think Witter would KO him though.