BJ Penn looks good

[atomicdOGg34]

saw spikes coverage of the upcoming UFC event with penn going against stevenson

im glad BJ decided to stay at 155 and man he looks like hes really working hard, he looks like hes in great shape

[TFK]

He should win pretty easily on Saturday.

TFK

[ArturoGatti]

He should win pretty easily on Saturday.

TFKI agree, Stevenson is an alright fighter, but BJ is in another league. Hopefully he fights SHerk next, and then moves up to ww to set up the superfight against GSP.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Penn is hilarious. Jens Pulver said on TUF 5 this isn't the BJ Penn show. Well it should have been. He is funny as shit. Hope he beats the shit out of Stevenson.

[FourHooks]

Joe has a better shot than most people are giving him....He is a beast at 155...

Penn is my favorite fighter of all time (aside from MAYBE GSP), but he is not unbeatable

[jarhead]

Penn is as close to "unbeatable" at 155 as anyone in any division right now. Stevenson is a live and great opponent at 155 for Penn, but I see this ending in the first round due to a submission. At worst 2nd round. An "in shape" Penn at 155 is so much farther than anyone else at 155 its stupid.

[Hut*Hut]

I saw the count down program last and it looks like he's been training hard. He and his trainer are certainly making all the right noises about being rejuvenated and the Pulver fight having 'reawoken a giant' etc. He seems mad confident....totally serene and cocky. But he still doesn't look as muscuar and cut as he did earlier in his career, if that means anything. Still looks fairly pudgy to me actually.:dunno:

[ArturoGatti]

Joe has a better shot than most people are giving him....He is a beast at 155...

Penn is my favorite fighter of all time (aside from MAYBE GSP), but he is not unbeatablea beast who got his ass kicked by Josh Neer? :dunno:

or was that at 170?

[Buddy Rydell]

a beast who got his ass kicked by Josh Neer? :dunno:

or was that at 170?

170

[valdosta]

Penn is as close to "unbeatable" at 155 as anyone in any division right now. Stevenson is a live and great opponent at 155 for Penn, but I see this ending in the first round due to a submission. At worst 2nd round. An "in shape" Penn at 155 is so much farther than anyone else at 155 its stupid.

Sherk's style may give Penn some issues.

[Buddy Rydell]

Sherk's style may give Penn some issues.

Val, from what I hear, you have a good ability to assess strengths and weaknesses. Sherk is a smaller, weaker version of Hughes. How do you see him creating problems for Penn?

[valdosta]

Val, from what I hear, you have a good ability to assess strengths and weaknesses. Sherk is a smaller, weaker version of Hughes. How do you see him creating problems for Penn?

Sherk also has better stand up than Hughes and has short limbs. So, if Sherk takes Penn down he can go through his typical lay and pray tactics. He's hard to catch in a sub. Also, Penn is still not a 5 round fighter. he can train as hard as he wants forever but some people just have better stamina than others. Penn's stamina in a 5 round fight will always be a liability.

[valdosta]

Val, from what I hear, you have a good ability to assess strengths and weaknesses. Sherk is a smaller, weaker version of Hughes. How do you see him creating problems for Penn?

BTW- I just had good information on the Griffin-Shogun fight. My analyzing skills are nothing special. I knew Shogun's excuses before the fight though. :lol:

[Azazel]

a beast who got his ass kicked by Josh Neer? :dunno:

or was that at 170?
Only fight I've seen of stevenson and he looked like utter shit, he was so bad, every time he tried to kick, he found himself on his ass due to his terrible balance and striking "skills", not an elite fighter as far as I'm concerned.

[Joe King]

You guys called it!

Penn by TKO2!

Maui Boy Kendall Grove got KTFO again. I don't think he should represent Maui anymore.

[ArturoGatti]

You guys called it!

Penn by TKO2!

Maui Boy Kendall Grove got KTFO again. I don't think he should represent Maui anymore.that was a great ppv. I was really happy for Werdum beating Gonzaga, and for Marcus Davis winning again.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

You guys called it!

Penn by TKO2!

Maui Boy Kendall Grove got KTFO again. I don't think he should represent Maui anymore.It was pretty simple to call. BJ Penn is great. That dude he was fighting is another UFC hypejob.

[atomicdOGg34]

no one at 155 has a shot against penn

[jarhead]

Valdosta-

We see Penn/Sherk almost opposite. Sherk would want this fight on the ground. And Penn would show Sherk a whole other world in ground fighting. Sherk is way out of his league in this fight. Penn by submission in round 2

Penn looked great. I would love to see Penn wipe his ass with the LW division. Something intrigues me about a Roger Huerta matchup, and I don't even think much of Roger Huerta:dunno: :lol:

[ArturoGatti]

Valdosta-

We see Penn/Sherk almost opposite. Sherk would want this fight on the ground. And Penn would show Sherk a whole other world in ground fighting. Sherk is way out of his league in this fight. Penn by submission in round 2

Penn looked great. I would love to see Penn wipe his ass with the LW division. Something intrigues me about a Roger Huerta matchup, and I don't even think much of Roger Huerta:dunno: :lol:if Penn beats Sherk, he should move up to 170 for the superfight with gsp (if gsp beats serra). Even if Serra wins again, he and Penn should fight, as their first fight was very close (or so I've heard).

[valdosta]

Valdosta-

We see Penn/Sherk almost opposite. Sherk would want this fight on the ground. And Penn would show Sherk a whole other world in ground fighting. Sherk is way out of his league in this fight. Penn by submission in round 2

Penn looked great. I would love to see Penn wipe his ass with the LW division. Something intrigues me about a Roger Huerta matchup, and I don't even think much of Roger Huerta:dunno: :lol:

Sherk and his stubby ass limbs will be hard to submit. if Penn didn't end the fight in the first couple of rounds he would have issues IMO.

[TFK]

The lightweight division is so stacked right now, there should be at least 1 marquee lightweight fight on every card.

I want to see Penn against Frankie Edgar or Tyson Griffin.

TFK

[ArturoGatti]

The lightweight division is so stacked right now, there should be at least 1 marquee lightweight fight on every card.

I want to see Penn against Frankie Edgar or Tyson Griffin.

TFKGriffin, Edgar, Guida, Herta, Thomas, Florian and a few others are all GOOD, but Penn and Sherk are head and shoulders above the rest, imho. Hopefully the winner moves up and goes after the ww title.

[jarhead]

Griffin, Edgar, Guida, Herta, Thomas, Florian and a few others are all GOOD, but Penn and Sherk are head and shoulders above the rest, imho. Hopefully the winner moves up and goes after the ww title.

I agree to an extent. Penn at WW just seems lazy to me. I would much rather him stay at LW and fight Griffin, Guida, Huerta, and all the rest.

But Val, I agree Sherk isn't an easy submission and the conditioning that guy has is awesome. You may be right, but I just see Penn in a different league. But i could be biased about it and not even realize it:lol:

[atomicdOGg34]

well going by their best common opponent...

sherk got HANDLED by GSP, beatdown style

penn fought him evenly on short notice

[valdosta]

Which means nothing. Pierre beat Sherk all around. Pretty much better in every area. Pierre beat Penn by taking him to the ground and laying on him. Same thing Sherk would try to do. Oh, and those were 3 round fights. Instead of winning 2-1 GSP would have beaten Penn 4-1 in a 5 round match.

[atomicdOGg34]

Which means nothing. Pierre beat Sherk all around. Pretty much better in every area. Pierre beat Penn by taking him to the ground and laying on him. Same thing Sherk would try to do. Oh, and those were 3 round fights. Instead of winning 2-1 GSP would have beaten Penn 4-1 in a 5 round match.

GSP is MUCH larger than sherk

[FourHooks]

I agree with Val....

Sherks style is a good one for hanging tough with BJ

[ArturoGatti]

I agree with Val....

Sherks style is a good one for hanging tough with BJ:lol:

okay there, new kid on the block.

[*Z*]

Nobody has even mentioned that Sherk was on roids before. Let's see how he matches up with BJ off the juice. It could be a whole different guy.

[ArturoGatti]

Nobody has even mentioned that Sherk was on roids before. Let's see how he matches up with BJ off the juice. It could be a whole different guy.maybe bj takes steroids as well, it's just that it all goes to his head.

[FourHooks]

:lol:

okay there, new kid on the block.woulda been better if I woulda said he had "the right stuff" for "hanging tough":lol:

[FourHooks]

maybe bj takes steroids as well, it's just that it all goes to his head.hgh???

[TFK]

There's a lot of great fighters at 155, but I think Eddie Alvarez can beat them all.

He's gonna be a monster for EliteXC, starting Friday night.

TFK

[valdosta]

There's a lot of great fighters at 155, but I think Eddie Alvarez can beat them all.

He's gonna be a monster for EliteXC, starting Friday night.

TFK

Is that the guy who got dominated by nick thompson?

[TFK]

Is that the guy who got dominated by nick thompson?

He didn't get dominated, but he did lose. The fight was at 175, which is way too heavy of a weight class for Alvarez to be fighting in. If you saw the fight, you could see Thompson looked enormous compared to Alvarez.

Alvarez will be fighting in EliteXC's 160 LB class, (except for Friday, which is at a catch weight of 165), and he's gonna dominate. He'll run right through Noons, Diaz, Bennett or anyone else they throw at him.

TFJ

[valdosta]

I saw the fight which is why I mentioned he was dominated. I thought he pretty much just got beat up. Smaller or not I wasn't very impressed.

[TFK]

I saw the fight which is why I mentioned he was dominated. I thought he pretty much just got beat up. Smaller or not I wasn't very impressed.

Here's the fight...***(Edit...sorry, put the wrong youtube clip in. Fixed it.)***


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Hardly a dominating effort. The first round was close, and Alvarez was winning the second round (it was close) until he got caught. And you can see Thompson's huge size advantage was giving Alvarez trouble.

Thompson was smart to back out of a rematch twice against Alvarez. He knew he wouldn't beat him twice. Both times he agreed to the rematch, then backed out claiming injury....then as soon as Alvarez signed with EliteXC, Thompson suddenly became healthy enough to fight again and signed to fight on 1\31.

TFK

[TFK]

My boy Alvarez looked damn good tonight, winning by KO in the 2nd round. He's gonna be a beast for EliteXC.

Good card overall.

TFK

[valdosta]

Forgot to respond back to this thread. I was wrong about Alvarez getting dominated. I didn't remember the fight as well as I thought. Regardless, I wasn't bullshitting I have that Bodog on DVD.

[Explosivo]

BJ Penn would have no problem with Sherk at lightweight:dunno: .

[Buddy Rydell]

BJ Penn would have no problem with Sherk at lightweight:dunno: .

BJ would gas in the second and then lose the next three rounds. :lol:

[Beyond the Grave]

BJ would gas in the second and then lose the next three rounds. :lol:

He's at lightweight now not welterweight so him gassing remains to be seen at 155

[Explosivo]

BJ would gas in the second and then lose the next three rounds. :lol:

Not at 155 he won't.

BJ is a guy with so much natural talent....that he gets lazy and baloons up in weight, but is still good enough to compete with the very best fighters who are naturarlly bigger and stronger, but he is n't in shape and is suspect to tiring.

At 155 that hasn't and won't be a problem for him imo. That keeps him honest.....fighting at 155.

He is lightyears better than the Muscle Sherk.

[valdosta]

He's only had 2 recent fights t 155 with neither going past 2 rounds. Even in his prime he had issues with stamina. Remind me how he lost to Jens Pulver (rhetoical question).

[jarhead]

Good call TFK on your boy Alvarez. He looks like the truth in EliteXC. I wish we could see him and Daley at 160, not sure if Daley could make 160 though. A fight with him and Diaz is interesting as well:popcorn: