View Full Version : Hatton is such a fat fuck
Barristan
01-30-2008, 12:35 AM
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jarhead
01-30-2008, 12:37 AM
my speakers are fucked up, does he say who he plans on fighting next? He doesn't happen to say how much he weighs does he?:eeeek:
my speakers are fucked up, does he say who he plans on fighting next? He doesn't happen to say how much he weighs does he?:eeeek:
he said he is weighing around 190 now and wants to drop 20 and fight Roy at 170
jarhead
01-30-2008, 12:52 AM
he said he is weighing around 190 now and wants to drop 20 and fight Roy at 170
Put the fight in England and it would be a huge payday for Roy.:laughing:
Orthodox Crusader
01-30-2008, 05:25 AM
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Naseem Hamed is such a fat fuck.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42046000/jpg/_42046940_pa416naseem.jpg
Hut*Hut
01-30-2008, 07:21 AM
Naseem Hamed is such a fat fuck.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42046000/jpg/_42046940_pa416naseem.jpg
Wheres a barfing emoticon when you need one?:doh:
(Seriously the emoticon selection in this place is fucking SHIT)
Orthodox Crusader
01-30-2008, 08:16 AM
Wheres a barfing emoticon when you need one?:doh:
(Seriously the emoticon selection in this place is fucking SHIT)
Cutbacks bro. Cutbacks.
Naseem Hamed is such a fat fuck.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42046000/jpg/_42046940_pa416naseem.jpg
:eeeek:
DAYUM!!!
this guy fought at 126!!! he is probably like 190 here!
Orthodox Crusader
01-30-2008, 11:07 AM
:eeeek:
DAYUM!!!
this guy fought at 126!!! he is probably like 190 here!
He's a fat bullshitter. 1 year ago he was talking shite about coming back to fight Barrera, and MAB just smiled at him.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Mean Mr Mustard
01-30-2008, 12:47 PM
Both are shit fighters.
meetthefeebles
01-30-2008, 12:51 PM
He's a fat bullshitter. 1 year ago he was talking shite about coming back to fight Barrera, and MAB just smiled at him.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Fuck yeah, I remember that...
Crazy, crazy guy...
meetthefeebles
01-30-2008, 12:52 PM
Both are shit fighters.
Two former P4P top 10 guys (at least, because Hatton still might be), but they are 'shit'...
:notallthere:
Orthodox Crusader
01-30-2008, 12:54 PM
Mustard is winding people up again, give him no heed.
:nono: :nono:
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 01:05 PM
The Thing is, THIS is how Hatton Looks THE MAJORITY of the Time...Yet Some of his Supporters on this Board Wanna BITCH about Floyd Fighting him @ 147, vs. 140...
Like the Weight ACTUALLY Mattered...
REED:rolleyes:
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 01:08 PM
& Prince Should B Fucking ASHAMED of himself...Dude is What, 33???...He's Tooooooo YOUNG to ALLOW Himself to Go to Complete SHIT like that, Even if he NEVER Fights Again...
Dude has "GLUTTONY" Written All Over his Face:lol: ...EXCESS N Every Sense of the Word...Fame, Money, Food, EVERYTHING...
REED was a Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Fan of this Cat, but that Pic is Soooo SAD, it's FUNNY...
REED:cool:
Ugotabe Kidding
01-30-2008, 01:09 PM
The Thing is, THIS is how Hatton Looks THE MAJORITY of the Time...Yet Some of his Supporters on this Board Wanna BITCH about Floyd Fighting him @ 147, vs. 140...
Like the Weight ACTUALLY Mattered...
REED:rolleyes:
The difference is, Hatton can make 140 whereas Floyd can't. That's why Hatton is a champ at 140, Floyd at 147. I know it is difficult to understand though
Orthodox Crusader
01-30-2008, 01:10 PM
The Thing is, THIS is how Hatton Looks THE MAJORITY of the Time...Yet Some of his Supporters on this Board Wanna BITCH about Floyd Fighting him @ 147, vs. 140...
Like the Weight ACTUALLY Mattered...
REED:rolleyes:
COME ON!!!
Hatton can barely walk at that weight..Hell I am 4 inches taller than Hatton, easily, and I find carrying 30lbs a fucking drag.
meetthefeebles
01-30-2008, 01:11 PM
The Thing is, THIS is how Hatton Looks THE MAJORITY of the Time...Yet Some of his Supporters on this Board Wanna BITCH about Floyd Fighting him @ 147, vs. 140...
Like the Weight ACTUALLY Mattered...
REED:rolleyes:
Hatton is an elite operator @140 but no more than a B-Class fighter @147. His fights at 147 have proven this decisively, and his natural lard-assness is irrelevant to this point. :dunno:
Moreover, it wouldn't have matter any if the fight had been @140, as Floyd is obviously better. But it would have been considerably more competitive IMO
meetthefeebles
01-30-2008, 01:14 PM
& Prince Should B Fucking ASHAMED of himself...Dude is What, 33???...He's Tooooooo YOUNG to ALLOW Himself to Go to Complete SHIT like that, Even if he NEVER Fights Again...
Dude has "GLUTTONY" Written All Over his Face:lol: ...EXCESS N Every Sense of the Word...Fame, Money, Food, EVERYTHING...
REED was a Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Fan of this Cat, but that Pic is Soooo SAD, it's FUNNY...
REED:cool:
It's this which make it hard to defend him against those who say he was a protected bum-beater.
He made a ton of money, lost one fight and then fucked off and got very, very fat. Gluttony is the perfect word for it, in fact.
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 01:20 PM
The difference is, Hatton can make 140 whereas Floyd can't. That's why Hatton is a champ at 140, Floyd at 147. I know it is difficult to understand thoughWhy CAN'T Floyd Make 140??:dunno: ...Just Cause he Made the Fight @ 147 Doesn't Mean he CAN'T Make 140...
Floyd Most Certainly IS NOT a Natural Welterweight:nono: ...Just LOOK @ him...
U're Being VERY PRESUMPTUOUS, but REED Chalks it Up to that State(or Is it a COUNTRY??) of DENIAL U've Been Living N Ever Since Floyd WHIPPED Hatton's Ass...
So Hatton Can REGULARLY Fluctuate from 190-140, yet Floyd "Can't" Make 140???
Yes, that IS "Difficult" to Understand...
REED:rolleyes:
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 01:22 PM
COME ON!!!
Hatton can barely walk at that weight..Hell I am 4 inches taller than Hatton, easily, and I find carrying 30lbs a fucking drag.U Make it Seem like Hatton has an UNCONTROLLABLE Condition which MAKES him Gain EXCESS Amounts of Weight N btwn Fights...
OBVIOUSLY, he's COMFORTABLE Gaining that Much Weight...He's Been Doing it for How Loooooooong Now???...
REED:cool:
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 01:28 PM
Loooooooooong Story Short, "Weight" has Become a BUILT-IN Way for Euro Fans to DISCREDIT or DIMINISH Floyd's Win Over Hatton...
How Convenient...
REED:rolleyes:
Orthodox Crusader
01-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Loooooooooong Story Short, "Weight" has Become a BUILT-IN Way for Euro Fans to DISCREDIT or DIMINISH Floyd's Win Over Hatton...
How Convenient...
REED:rolleyes:
I never said that..........:nono:
Why would I say that, when I have Joe Cortez.
I already said Floyds win was on point and not to be disputed.
Loooooooooong Story Short, "Weight" has Become a BUILT-IN Way for Euro Fans to DISCREDIT or DIMINISH Floyd's Win Over Hatton...
How Convenient...
REED:rolleyes:
come on brother REED, the Euro bums need SOME reason as to why their trophy boy got DOMINATED and STOPPED by Floyd..
all these guys saying how Hatton was TOO strong.. Hatton would NEVER STOP.. Hatton was TOO MUCH PRESSURE
Hatton got outschooled, out fought and stopped by "pretty boy" :lol:
Ugotabe Kidding
01-30-2008, 02:12 PM
Why CAN'T Floyd Make 140??:dunno: ...Just Cause he Made the Fight @ 147 Doesn't Mean he CAN'T Make 140...
Floyd Most Certainly IS NOT a Natural Welterweight:nono: ...Just LOOK @ him...
U're Being VERY PRESUMPTUOUS, but REED Chalks it Up to that State(or Is it a COUNTRY??) of DENIAL U've Been Living N Ever Since Floyd WHIPPED Hatton's Ass...
So Hatton Can REGULARLY Fluctuate from 190-140, yet Floyd "Can't" Make 140???
Yes, that IS "Difficult" to Understand...
REED:rolleyes:
Floyd has clearly more muscle (he has "trained" well) compared to Hatton. Unlike fat, muscle is more difficult to get rid of.
Now look man, you are again seeing monsters when there are none. I have never denied that Floyd is clearly the better fighter compared to Hatton. A fact however is that Hatton was/is a 140 lb champ and FLoyd took on a fighter from a weight class below him. That is not racism, no matter how much you want to point to that
Floyd is not really a welter.. he's a small guy
Hatton should have bullied him.. .what happened to that? what happened to the clips of Hatton leg pressing all this weight in the gym and his trainer talking about how he is bigger and stronger?:laughing:
Ugotabe Kidding
01-30-2008, 03:29 PM
Floyd is not really a welter.. he's a small guy
Hatton should have bullied him.. .what happened to that? what happened to the clips of Hatton leg pressing all this weight in the gym and his trainer talking about how he is bigger and stronger?:laughing:
So why hasn't he fought under that weight limit for years? He has bulked himself up and he is a real welter now. Not a strong one really, but a welterweight anyway
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 03:39 PM
So why hasn't he fought under that weight limit for years? He has bulked himself up and he is a real welter now. Not a strong one really, but a welterweight anywayR U just PLAYING Dumb R Or this a SERIOUS Question???:dunno: :dunno:
Floyd has Made NO Secret of his Desire to Face DeLa, Since his Days as a 130lb'der...THAT's Been his Goal...
@ LIGHTWEIGHT, Floyd Started Mentioning DeLa N his Postfight Interviews...After his 1st Fight @ 140 he Said, "Anybody from 154 on Down, You Bring em', I'll Take em'." From there he had like 2-3 Fights @ 140, 2-3 Fights @ 147 then the Fight w/DeLa @ 154...
Floyd's Moved Back Down to 147 for 2 Reasons...Cause it's STILL CLOSE to DeLa's Weight (N the Event of a High Dollar RE) AND Cause All the Other MONEY Fights R @ that Weight...
WHY WOULD He Move Back to 140???:dunno: ...Hatton had ALREADY Fought @ 147 & WASN'T Opposed to Fighting there Again, so that's where the Bout Took Place...& There's NO OTHER Money Opponents @ 140...
U Keep INSINUATING that Floyd is INCAPABLE of Making Jr Welter or that Floyd is a TRUE Welter & U COULDN'T B More Mistaken...AGAIN, this is your TRANSPARENT Attempt @ Either DENIGRATING Floyd or Making Hatton Look BETTER...
REED:rolleyes:
Ugotabe Kidding
01-30-2008, 03:42 PM
U Keep INSINUATING that Floyd is INCAPABLE of Making Jr Welter or that Floyd is a TRUE Welter & U COULDN'T B More Mistaken...AGAIN, this is your TRANSPARENT Attempt @ Either DENIGRATING Floyd or Making Hatton Look BETTER...
REED:rolleyes:
:doh: good god.
How is it denigrating Floyd saying that he is a welterweight when he fights at welterweight and is not moving down?
valdosta
01-30-2008, 04:01 PM
If there was a huge fight to be made at 140, you can bet your ass Floyd could make the weight. Realistically the guy weighs in at 147 and usually only gains a pound or 2 before coming into the ring. Yet people say he can't make 140? I think he could he just has no reason to. That division is fucking garbage.
Xplosive
01-30-2008, 05:14 PM
If there was a huge fight to be made at 140, you can bet your ass Floyd could make the weight. Realistically the guy weighs in at 147 and usually only gains a pound or 2 before coming into the ring. Yet people say he can't make 140? I think he could he just has no reason to. That division is fucking garbage.
Amen. You & REED have pretty much cleaned this thread out. The Hatton groupies continue to use weight as an excuse for the loss. Floyd & Hatton are roughly about the same size. Floyd is a slightly taller man, but Hatton is thicker and has heavier bones. The reason why Floyd is able to be successful at higher weights whereas Hatto cant is simply because Floyd is a much better fighter than Hatton, and his style is better suited to move up in weight. Hatton relies on being able to bully smaller fighters around to be successful. Floyd whips his ass any time, any place, at any weight & time. Had the fight happened back in 05 at 140 it would have been the SAME exact result. In fact the fight COULD have happened back in 05 at 140, but Hatton didnt want any parts of Floyd at that time. Floyd wanted the fight back then, Hatton didnt. And now we know why.
Hatton is Floyd's eternal bitch!
dymipepel
01-30-2008, 05:21 PM
Hatton is Floyd's eternal bitch!
Oh, please.....Hatton made Floyd his bitch during pre-fight hype.
Hatton's humour and wit stood in sharp contrast to Floyd's ridicuolous and tired schtick.
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 05:26 PM
Oh, please.....Hatton made Floyd his bitch during pre-fight hype.
Hatton's humour and wit stood in sharp contrast to Floyd's ridicuolous and tired schtick.What's "Ridiculous & Tired" about TELLING a Guy U're Gonna WHIP his Ass then BACKING IT UP???...
REED:dunno:
dymipepel
01-30-2008, 05:27 PM
What's "Ridiculous & Tired" about TELLING a Guy U're Gonna WHIP his Ass then BACKING IT UP???...
REED:dunno:
Hatton punked out Floyd before the fight, there's no denying it.
Ortho opened a thread to that effect before the fight, stating that Hatton "going to beat Mayweather", because Ricky got under PBF's skin.
Ugotabe Kidding
01-30-2008, 05:30 PM
PBF is an infantile guy in interviews that's for sure.
And no, I am still not saying that he wasn't the better fighter compared to Hatton
REEDsART
01-30-2008, 05:31 PM
Hatton punked out Floyd before the fight, there's no denying it.
Ortho opened a thread to that effect before the fight, stating that Hatton "going to beat Mayweather", because Ricky got under PBF's skin.Yep, Hatton "Punked Out" Floyd Sooooooo BADLY, he SCARED Floyd into DOMINATING him for 9 Rounds, then KO'ing him N the 10th...
REED:lol:
dymipepel
01-30-2008, 05:34 PM
Yep, Hatton "Punked Out" Floyd Sooooooo BADLY, he SCARED Floyd into DOMINATING him for 9 Rounds, then KO'ing him N the 10th...
REED:lol:
Are you questioning Ortho's judgement?
Xplosive
01-30-2008, 05:48 PM
Oh, please.....Hatton made Floyd his bitch during pre-fight hype.
Hatton's humour and wit stood in sharp contrast to Floyd's ridicuolous and tired schtick.
And all this matters for SHIT! This is boxing, not a dissing contest. Floyd made Hatton his bitch inside the ring, and thats all that fuckin matters!
Breeze
01-30-2008, 07:34 PM
Wheres a barfing emoticon when you need one?:doh:
(Seriously the emoticon selection in this place is fucking SHIT)
If someone posted this pic without saying his name, I wouldn't even know it was Hamed.
Rainmaker
01-30-2008, 08:01 PM
he said he is weighing around 190 now and wants to drop 20 and fight Roy at 170:lol:
Xplosive
01-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Shit I'd pay to see RJ-Hatton at 170. I never tire of seeing the Holdman get his ass kicked.
R U just PLAYING Dumb R Or this a SERIOUS Question???:dunno: :dunno:
Floyd has Made NO Secret of his Desire to Face DeLa, Since his Days as a 130lb'der...THAT's Been his Goal...
@ LIGHTWEIGHT, Floyd Started Mentioning DeLa N his Postfight Interviews...After his 1st Fight @ 140 he Said, "Anybody from 154 on Down, You Bring em', I'll Take em'." From there he had like 2-3 Fights @ 140, 2-3 Fights @ 147 then the Fight w/DeLa @ 154...
Floyd's Moved Back Down to 147 for 2 Reasons...Cause it's STILL CLOSE to DeLa's Weight (N the Event of a High Dollar RE) AND Cause All the Other MONEY Fights R @ that Weight...
WHY WOULD He Move Back to 140???:dunno: ...Hatton had ALREADY Fought @ 147 & WASN'T Opposed to Fighting there Again, so that's where the Bout Took Place...& There's NO OTHER Money Opponents @ 140...
U Keep INSINUATING that Floyd is INCAPABLE of Making Jr Welter or that Floyd is a TRUE Welter & U COULDN'T B More Mistaken...AGAIN, this is your TRANSPARENT Attempt @ Either DENIGRATING Floyd or Making Hatton Look BETTER...
REED:rolleyes:
the euro fans that were all suckin Hatton's dick until he got KO'd need reasons man..
Floyd moved up for the DLH fight.. no doubt.. There is also no doubt that of the two Hatton is really a bigger guy.. I remember when Floyd said from 154 down he'd fight them.. I was thinking that is Dam risky cuz he is Small! I have no doubt Floyd could make 140.. prolly easier than Hatton could
it is maybe the most retarded thing I've ever read here that Hatton "made floyd his bitch" in the pre fight build up:doh:
they talked some smack.. both did..
Floyd predicted he'd win, and he went in and dominated Ricky and treated him like a bitch stopping him
the thing I think that makes hatton look like a bitch is the pre fight video of Hatton in the gym saying "I hope E hits me harder than E 'its them FUCKIN pads and bags"
he was talking all this trash about Floyd "pity patting" and how if Floyd did that he'd take his head off!:doh: then he preceded to not just get out boxed but floyd bullied him and made him his bitch!:laughing:
The Genius
01-31-2008, 03:03 AM
Why CAN'T Floyd Make 140??:dunno: ...Just Cause he Made the Fight @ 147 Doesn't Mean he CAN'T Make 140...
Floyd Most Certainly IS NOT a Natural Welterweight:nono: ...Just LOOK @ him...
U're Being VERY PRESUMPTUOUS, but REED Chalks it Up to that State(or Is it a COUNTRY??) of DENIAL U've Been Living N Ever Since Floyd WHIPPED Hatton's Ass...
So Hatton Can REGULARLY Fluctuate from 190-140, yet Floyd "Can't" Make 140???
Yes, that IS "Difficult" to Understand...
REED:rolleyes:
C'mon REED. You know the difference.
Hatton is a fatass but Floyd was CLEARLY bigger when they fought. I was surprised to be honest because I bought into the whole 'Lil Floyd' shit. Floyd has the frame to FIGHT effectively at 147. Hatton has proven that he does not.
Floyd is also much, much better than Hatton.
Roll With The Punches
01-31-2008, 03:52 AM
as heavy as hatton looks in that video, his girlfriend looks like she is 20lbs heavier
Andrew
01-31-2008, 04:00 AM
Are you questioning Ortho's judgement?
:lol:
r o o s t e r
01-31-2008, 09:44 AM
"Are you interested in fighting Witter?"
"Erm, not really. When someone slags you off, you don’t want to repay them by giving them the biggest payday of their lives."
well, ricky, when someone gives you the biggest payday of your life, fight after fight, year after year (i.e. as the british public has done for you), you should repay the public by taking the fight they want to see - witter. an impressive, highly-rated domestic rival.
it's pathetic now. sure, putting off witter when you were (sluggishly...) chasing zoo, floyd, was excusable. but now it's just bullshit.
seriously, this guy seems to have swallowed his own hype. the physical bloating seems to be a metaphor for his ego. "well, everybody wants to fight ricky hatton", he said, in glorious third-person.
r o o s t e r
01-31-2008, 09:46 AM
it is maybe the most retarded thing I've ever read here that Hatton "made floyd his bitch" in the pre fight build up:doh:
well he did embarrass him on the press tour. go see the youtube clips. hatton was witty and crowd-savvy throughout, whereas floyd was clumsy, as usual.
of course, it is completely, absolutely irrelevant, since floyd battered him in the fight.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
01-31-2008, 01:05 PM
Will you fight Junior Witter? Not Really
Will you fight Oscar De la Hoya? Im fearless ill fight anybody
well he did embarrass him on the press tour. go see the youtube clips. hatton was witty and crowd-savvy throughout, whereas floyd was clumsy, as usual.
of course, it is completely, absolutely irrelevant, since floyd battered him in the fight.
well.. I have to disagree here.. Hatton looked like an asshole IMO.. it just makes it sweeter that he got stopped
Floyd is a class act compared to Hatton
royyjonesjrp4pno1
01-31-2008, 01:15 PM
The difference is, Hatton can make 140 whereas Floyd can't. That's why Hatton is a champ at 140, Floyd at 147. I know it is difficult to understand thoughWrong. Vicky wanted the fight at 147 because he didn't want to put his 140lb title on the line.
Wrong. Vicky wanted the fight at 147 because he didn't want to put his 140lb title on the line.
too bad, it would have been cool for Floyd to get the 140 title :lol:
Wrong. Vicky wanted the fight at 147 because he didn't want to put his 140lb title on the line.
Can this be supported with proof?
Ugotabe Kidding
01-31-2008, 01:25 PM
Can this be supported with proof?
www.iamahattonhater/justignore/mystupidasscomments.com (http://www.iamahattonhater/justignore/mystupidasscomments.com)
You should find it there
royyjonesjrp4pno1
01-31-2008, 01:36 PM
Citing a recent spate of fighters moving down in weight as their careers progressed, the "Pretty Boy" speculated that he may consider future fights at a lower weight class, possibly junior welterweight or lightweight. "Shane came back down. Oscar is going down. Winky just fought Bernard at 170, but he wanted to fight Oscar at 154. Ricky Hatton went back to junior welterweight, and he weighs more than me. I've always said that weights don't win fights. Skills pay the bills. When I come back, it will be for the biggest fights and the biggest names. It it don't make dollars, it don't make sense."
"Money" Mayweather addressed the issue of the challenges of making weight. "For me, it's not an issue. At all. I've always been in great shape. Me and Ricky talked about fighting at 140, but he didn't want to put his belt at risk. I never go above 150. Not even between fights. When I fought Arturo Gatti, he was 158, 159 something like that. I saw Stevie Forbes and Bojado. They were, what, 156 and 159. For a fight that was supposed to be at 140. So, you know, we'll just have to see."
While Mayweather did not specifically discuss future opponents, the indications are that he has an interest in facing current p4p companion Manny Pacquiao. While a size disparity is perceived, the Filipino idol struggled to make weight for his last bout vs. Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera. By fight time, Pacquiao had rehydrated to 144 pounds. WBO superfeatherweight titlist Joan Guzman, often mentioned as a potential opponent for Pacquaio, had had similar weight challenges. The Dominican rising star weighed 148 pounds for his bout with hard-hitting Humberto Soto.
Says Mayweather, "I'm going to talk to my team, and talk to Mark Taffet at HBO. We'll give the fans what they want."<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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royyjonesjrp4pno1
01-31-2008, 01:49 PM
www.iamahattonhater/justignore/mystupidasscomments.com (http://www.iamahattonhater/justignore/mystupidasscomments.com)
You should find it there
Wrong again.
Ugotabe Kidding
01-31-2008, 01:52 PM
Wrong again.
very reliable source too :bears: :bears:
REEDsART
01-31-2008, 01:58 PM
Citing a recent spate of fighters moving down in weight as their careers progressed, the "Pretty Boy" speculated that he may consider future fights at a lower weight class, possibly junior welterweight or lightweight. "Shane came back down. Oscar is going down. Winky just fought Bernard at 170, but he wanted to fight Oscar at 154. Ricky Hatton went back to junior welterweight, and he weighs more than me. I've always said that weights don't win fights. Skills pay the bills. When I come back, it will be for the biggest fights and the biggest names. It it don't make dollars, it don't make sense."
"Money" Mayweather addressed the issue of the challenges of making weight. "For me, it's not an issue. At all. I've always been in great shape. Me and Ricky talked about fighting at 140, but he didn't want to put his belt at risk. I never go above 150. Not even between fights. When I fought Arturo Gatti, he was 158, 159 something like that. I saw Stevie Forbes and Bojado. They were, what, 156 and 159. For a fight that was supposed to be at 140. So, you know, we'll just have to see."
While Mayweather did not specifically discuss future opponents, the indications are that he has an interest in facing current p4p companion Manny Pacquiao. While a size disparity is perceived, the Filipino idol struggled to make weight for his last bout vs. Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera. By fight time, Pacquiao had rehydrated to 144 pounds. WBO superfeatherweight titlist Joan Guzman, often mentioned as a potential opponent for Pacquaio, had had similar weight challenges. The Dominican rising star weighed 148 pounds for his bout with hard-hitting Humberto Soto.
Says Mayweather, "I'm going to talk to my team, and talk to Mark Taffet at HBO. We'll give the fans what they want."<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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REED:lol:
i think it has been proven that Hatton is an asshole and he was scared to lose his belt so he just didn't diet down as much
royyjonesjrp4pno1
01-31-2008, 01:59 PM
very reliable source too :bears: :bears:Well it was from the Boxingscene site. I posted a thread like a month ago with the article but no link. I can't find the link anywhere but i mean who is a more credible source then 1 of the guys at the negotiating table considering the article is a direct quote from Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Ugotabe Kidding
01-31-2008, 02:00 PM
Well it was from the Boxingscene site. I posted a thread like a month ago with the article but no link. I can't find the link anywhere but i mean who is a more credible source then 1 of the guys at the negotiating table considering the article is a direct quote from Floyd Mayweather Jr.
word
REEDsART
01-31-2008, 02:08 PM
i think it has been proven that Hatton is an asshole and he was scared to lose his belt so he just didn't diet down as muchBut there's Only ONE Ricky Hatton...
REED:cool:
Never heard a boxer stretch the truth or lie about what happened during negotiations.
That said, I wanted some proof and you gave it to me. Good enough for me. Thanks.
godking
01-31-2008, 05:08 PM
The difference is, Hatton can make 140 whereas Floyd can't. That's why Hatton is a champ at 140, Floyd at 147. I know it is difficult to understand thoughFloyd could make 140 if he wanted he walks around at 147 are you honestly saying that Floyd could not lose 7 pounds and still be effective ?:rolleyes:
Orthodox Crusader
01-31-2008, 05:39 PM
I love the way this thread has been turned into a revista of the fight itself. Thats Reed for you.
meetthefeebles
02-01-2008, 12:35 PM
"Are you interested in fighting Witter?"
"Erm, not really. When someone slags you off, you don’t want to repay them by giving them the biggest payday of their lives."
well, ricky, when someone gives you the biggest payday of your life, fight after fight, year after year (i.e. as the british public has done for you), you should repay the public by taking the fight they want to see - witter. an impressive, highly-rated domestic rival.
it's pathetic now. sure, putting off witter when you were (sluggishly...) chasing zoo, floyd, was excusable. but now it's just bullshit.
seriously, this guy seems to have swallowed his own hype. the physical bloating seems to be a metaphor for his ego. "well, everybody wants to fight ricky hatton", he said, in glorious third-person.
Excellent post. :bears:
I am a certified Hatton groupie, but the ONLY fight worth a whistle at 140 IMO now is Hatton v Witter (I suppose either fighting Paulie would be worth an interest, but he beats neither IMO). And Hatton has to fight exclusively now at 140, because the Floyd fight conclusively proved that Ricky really has no business fighting any of Williams/Cotto/Cintron/Mosely/Margarito at 147, unless he wants to earn more millions for being beaten.
Badly, in the case of some of the aforenamed.
I remember watching a repeat of the Hatton - Floyd fight on BBC1 a week afterwards, and that bald dude who does the summarising (somebody or other Dunce?) suggested, in all seriousness, that he thought that Hatton (and only Hatton, not Billy Graham or the others in the camp) had underestimated Floyd. Like really, arrogantly underestimated him. To the point that Hatton thought that Floyd didn't have the power to hurt him and, at worst, he would drop a decision but score a moral victory for effort or something along those lines.
If that is true, then Hatton must have been NUTS, but moreover, it would go someway to confirming, as you say, that he has 'swallowed his own hype'.
MTF :dunno:
meetthefeebles
02-01-2008, 12:38 PM
Wrong. Vicky wanted the fight at 147 because he didn't want to put his 140lb title on the line.
Notwithstanding the article you posted, but didn't Hatton vacate his title to Paulie anyway? :dunno:
meetthefeebles
02-01-2008, 12:43 PM
Amen. You & REED have pretty much cleaned this thread out. The Hatton groupies continue to use weight as an excuse for the loss. Floyd & Hatton are roughly about the same size. Floyd is a slightly taller man, but Hatton is thicker and has heavier bones. The reason why Floyd is able to be successful at higher weights whereas Hatto cant is simply because Floyd is a much better fighter than Hatton, and his style is better suited to move up in weight. Hatton relies on being able to bully smaller fighters around to be successful. Floyd whips his ass any time, any place, at any weight & time. Had the fight happened back in 05 at 140 it would have been the SAME exact result. In fact the fight COULD have happened back in 05 at 140, but Hatton didnt want any parts of Floyd at that time. Floyd wanted the fight back then, Hatton didnt. And now we know why.
Hatton is Floyd's eternal bitch!
In amongst all of the hate and jibberish, this single point holds very true indeed.
Hatton's style is such that, even though he walks around heavier than most Welter's, he loses his natural edge in strength when he fights them, and this negates his single biggest advantage in the ring. Hence he can push around and punch with great effectiveness at 140, but he can't do either when fighting the bigger fighters at 147.
I honestly can't think of any other current fighter whose strengths and talents are so completely negated when they step up in weight as Hatton's are. :dunno:
MTF
I really think Hatton should fight Cotto next
meetthefeebles
02-01-2008, 12:54 PM
I really think Hatton should fight Cotto next
Nice try, hater... :warning: :lol:
royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-01-2008, 01:03 PM
I really think Hatton should fight Cotto nextI wish that fight would happen. I would like to see him fight Margarito as well. Them guys put Fatton in ER for a long time.
I wish that fight would happen. I would like to see him fight Margarito as well. Them guys put Fatton in ER for a long time.
I mean, the Cotto fight would be exciting!
Nice try, hater... :warning: :lol:
what does that have to do with "hate" ?
I think Hatto-Cotto would be an exciting fight don't you?
meetthefeebles
02-01-2008, 01:32 PM
what does that have to do with "hate" ?
I think Hatto-Cotto would be an exciting fight don't you?
No I don't.
For once, I agree with RoyJoneswhatever. Cotto, along with all of those other guys I listed before, would fuck Hatton up.
I repeat- Hatton has NO BUSINESS WHATSOEVER fighting anyone again at 147.
No I don't.
For once, I agree with RoyJoneswhatever. Cotto, along with all of those other guys I listed before, would fuck Hatton up.
I repeat- Hatton has NO BUSINESS WHATSOEVER fighting anyone again at 147.
Hatton is agressive and would come to fight! SO would Cotto.. it would be exciting!!
just cuz your sexual fantasy would get destroyed and KTFO doesn't mean it would not be an exciting/entertaining fight man...
meetthefeebles
02-01-2008, 02:08 PM
Hatton is agressive and would come to fight! SO would Cotto.. it would be exciting!!
just cuz your sexual fantasy would get destroyed and KTFO doesn't mean it would not be an exciting/entertaining fight man...
*treat with the contemptuous silence this is deserved...*
:flip: :warning:
*treat with the contemptuous silence this is deserved...*
:flip: :warning:
come on baby boy.. it's all good! your my MAN mtf
REEDsART
02-01-2008, 09:49 PM
I love the way this thread has been turned into a revista of the fight itself. Thats Reed for you.N NO Way was REED Trying to Detract from the FACT that Ricky Hatton is INDEED a "Fat Fuck"...
REED:nono:
r o o s t e r
02-02-2008, 10:14 AM
that bald dude who does the summarising (somebody or other Dunce?)
steve bunce
i was a a hatton nut-hugger since 2000. maybe he will become the new naz - undefeated & super-hyped for so long, the bitterness is just eating him up now (it may take a while...). this is what happens to brit hype-machines - they're so full of air, one loss punctures and completely deflates them.
meetthefeebles
02-02-2008, 04:30 PM
steve bunce
i was a a hatton nut-hugger since 2000. maybe he will become the new naz - undefeated & super-hyped for so long, the bitterness is just eating him up now (it may take a while...). this is what happens to brit hype-machines - they're so full of air, one loss punctures and completely deflates them.
Hatton lost one fight at an unnatural weight for him to the P4P best fighter in the world. On it's own, I can't see how or why this should necessarily see him go the way of Hamed. :dunno:
The way I see it, Hatton will go either one of two ways. Either you are right, and he will simply vanish into the night getting very very fat, in which case his legacy will take the same battering as that of Naz, or he can have a tune up or two at 140 and fight and beat Witter. If he does that, I think he could then retire to count his money with a legacy very much intact.
It's really up to him though... :popcorn:
REEDsART
02-02-2008, 04:42 PM
Hatton lost one fight at an unnatural weight for him to the P4P best fighter in the world. On it's own, I can't see how or why this should necessarily see him go the way of Hamed. :dunno:
The way I see it, Hatton will go either one of two ways. Either you are right, and he will simply vanish into the night getting very very fat, in which case his legacy will take the same battering as that of Naz, or he can have a tune up or two at 140 and fight and beat Witter. If he does that, I think he could then retire to count his money with a legacy very much intact.
It's really up to him though... :popcorn:REED REALLY LIKES U as a Poster, Mr. FEEBLES, but it's this ONE Point U Persist N Clinging to that REED Takes Issue w/...
Considering Hatton ALWAYS BLOWS Up btwn Fights, HOW Do we KNOW 147 is "Unnatural" for him???:dunno: ...Cause he STRUGGLED w/the 2 Opponents he Faced there???:dunno: ...
What if he had Faced 2 EASIER Opponents, THEN Faced Collazo & Floyd???...
The FACT is, 147 ISN'T Floyd's "Natural" Weight EITHER:nono: ...Even Collazo is CLEARLY BIGGER than Floyd is...
agREED that Hatton SHOULDN'T B Relegated to "Hamed Status", REED is just Taking Issue w/your "Weight" Issues...
& YES, if Hatton BEATS Witter, there's Really NATHAN Else for him to Prove @ 140...
REED:cool:
meetthefeebles
02-02-2008, 05:09 PM
REED REALLY LIKES U as a Poster, Mr. FEEBLES, but it's this ONE Point U Persist N Clinging to that REED Takes Issue w/...
Considering Hatton ALWAYS BLOWS Up btwn Fights, HOW Do we KNOW 147 is "Unnatural" for him???:dunno: ...Cause he STRUGGLED w/the 2 Opponents he Faced there???:dunno: ...
What if he had Faced 2 EASIER Opponents, THEN Faced Collazo & Floyd???...
The FACT is, 147 ISN'T Floyd's "Natural" Weight EITHER:nono: ...Even Collazo is CLEARLY BIGGER than Floyd is...
agREED that Hatton SHOULDN'T B Relegated to "Hamed Status", REED is just Taking Issue w/your "Weight" Issues...
& YES, if Hatton BEATS Witter, there's Really NATHAN Else for him to Prove @ 140...
REED:cool:
This answers your own question for you, Mr REED. :popcorn:
Hatton hasn't struggled in ANY fight at 140 like he did in both of his fights at 147. The fact that he WALKS AROUND as a big, fat b*stard isn't really relevant- his moving up in weight negates his natural FIGHTING advantages- namely that he punches harder and is significantly stronger than almost all 140lb-ers, but ELITE 147 guys like Floyd punch as hard (or harder, perhaps) and are as strong as Ricky. And without these (and his quick footwork), Hatton can't be regarded as an ELITE guy at 147.
I didn't want to think this was the case, but IMO it would be FOOLISH to ignore the lessons of his ventures into 147 territory. Bottom line is that Hatton is an ELITE 140 fighter, but a B-Level (i.e would prob beat a decent, but will ALWAYS lose to a) Welterweight.
Honestly, I cannot think of ANY other fighter who struggles with a move up in weight as much as Hatton does.
This should NOT take anything away from Floyd's win over Hatton, which was as comprehensive as it could be, clearly showed that Mayweather is the better man and was very, very impressive, but equally, I would be VERY surprised if Floyd was able to do the same to Ricky at 140. Floyd would win, no doubt, but it wouldn't be another one-sided domination, because Hatton's strengths wouldn't be so completely negated.
MTF
The Genius
02-02-2008, 08:58 PM
There would be no change if they fought at 140. Ricky might be more comfortable but Floyd would beat him just as easily regardless. Ricky may have an advantage over natural 140 lbers but Floyd is definitely not that anymore than RJ was a blown up middle at LHW.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-03-2008, 03:56 AM
This answers your own question for you, Mr REED. :popcorn:
Hatton hasn't struggled in ANY fight at 140 like he did in both of his fights at 147. The fact that he WALKS AROUND as a big, fat b*stard isn't really relevant- his moving up in weight negates his natural FIGHTING advantages- namely that he punches harder and is significantly stronger than almost all 140lb-ers, but ELITE 147 guys like Floyd punch as hard (or harder, perhaps) and are as strong as Ricky. And without these (and his quick footwork), Hatton can't be regarded as an ELITE guy at 147.
I didn't want to think this was the case, but IMO it would be FOOLISH to ignore the lessons of his ventures into 147 territory. Bottom line is that Hatton is an ELITE 140 fighter, but a B-Level (i.e would prob beat a decent, but will ALWAYS lose to a) Welterweight.
Honestly, I cannot think of ANY other fighter who struggles with a move up in weight as much as Hatton does.
This should NOT take anything away from Floyd's win over Hatton, which was as comprehensive as it could be, clearly showed that Mayweather is the better man and was very, very impressive, but equally, I would be VERY surprised if Floyd was able to do the same to Ricky at 140. Floyd would win, no doubt, but it wouldn't be another one-sided domination, because Hatton's strengths wouldn't be so completely negated.
MTF
His comp at 140 has pretty much beeen a joke though. The refs let him get away with alot of cheating too.
r o o s t e r
02-03-2008, 07:11 AM
His comp at 140 has pretty much beeen a joke though. The refs let him get away with alot of cheating too.
zoo (especially), castillo, tackie. yes, we can retrospect about "past-their-prime", but at the time, those guys were favoured as dangerous opponents.
true about the cheating.
His comp at 140 has pretty much beeen a joke though. The refs let him get away with alot of cheating too.
:bears:
Hatton looked good at 140 but he cheated all the time and he did fight some bums as well
everyone was talking about how strong he was and he had too much pressure for lil Floyd but Floyd Raped him a new asshole:lol:
now the hatton dick suckers are trying to say it was cuz it was at 147? :lol: Floyd was a LIGHTWEIGHT!!! He is the one of the two really that is above his natural fighting weight.
Floyd simply is a better fighter and he treated Hatton like a bitch, he told the world he'd whup him and he did, whupped him and stopped him and now bitch ass Hatton is on tv crying and complaing... what a bitch...
Orthodox Crusader
02-03-2008, 10:16 AM
I mean, I am sure Roy Jones walks around at 200lbs, and had a fight at Heavyweight {albeit against a former Cruiser} but that doesn't mean Roy should have stayed at 200 and fought heavyweights all the time.
Reed is simply wrong, and needs to STFU about weight.
REEDsART
02-03-2008, 11:19 AM
I mean, I am sure Roy Jones walks around at 200lbs, and had a fight at Heavyweight {albeit against a former Cruiser} but that doesn't mean Roy should have stayed at 200 and fought heavyweights all the time.
Reed is simply wrong, and needs to STFU about weight.As USUAL, your Opinion is RUBBISH...
Roy Jones "Walks Around" @ about 180-185...The Heaviest he's EVER Been is when he Bulked Up for the Ruiz Fight...He OFFICIALLY Weighed N @ 193 & was 199 on Fightnight...
Saying Roy "Walks Around" @ 200 is Complete & Utter BULLSHIT...
REED:rolleyes:
dymipepel
02-03-2008, 11:31 AM
Saying Roy "Walks Around" @ 200 is Complete & Utter BULLSHIT...
REED:rolleyes:
In your opinion, Reed, which one of Ortho's statements is bullshit-ier....
"Roy walks around at 200"
or
"Ricky is going to destroy PBF, because he punked him out during pre-fight hype"?
In your opinion, Reed, which one of Ortho's statements is bullshit-ier....
"Roy walks around at 200"
or
"Ricky is going to destroy PBF, because he punked him out during pre-fight hype"?
:laughing:
REEDsART
02-03-2008, 11:36 AM
In your opinion, Reed, which one of Ortho's statements is bullshit-ier....
"Roy walks around at 200"
or
"Ricky is going to destroy PBF, because he punked him out during pre-fight hype"?Most of Ortho's Statements have a HIGH "Bullshit Factor", Thus Making it DIFFICULT to Single Out just 1...
It's like Picking your Favorite Beatles Song...Virtually IMPOSSIBLE...
REED:dunno:
meetthefeebles
02-03-2008, 11:44 AM
His comp at 140 has pretty much beeen a joke though.
Castillo, Tszyu, Tackie, Maussa and Urango are hardly 'jokes'. And it's all well and good saying NOW that Tszyu and Castillo were shot- that was NOT the general consensus before either fight and Hatton was a heavy underdog in the former and a coin-flip in the latter.
Who else would you have wanted him to fight at 140?
That said, and for the purposes of objectivity, I will admit that compared to 147, which at the minute is a very loaded division, 140 is a pretty sparse place to be. HOWEVER, Hatton had, by general consensus, cleaned the division out 12 months or so ago, and it is only NOW that there is a clamour for him to fight Junior Witter (who has emerged as a genuine threat) and to a lesser extent, Paulie Malignaggi.
The refs let him get away with alot of cheating too.
Look man, I know we have had numerous disagreements on this point, but the bottom line is that Hatton leaning on fighters, wearing them down through his strength and holding during fights IMO is NOT cheating. It is part of boxing. It may be an ugly part of boxing at times, but in a practical sense, sometimes it makes sense to fight this way.
Even groin shots, which are illegal, are part of the game. They are tactical shots which almost all fighter's have used at some stage.
I can say this objectively, because at NO stage for example have I ever complained about Mayweather's 'unorthodox' defense (like Kauki and others) or will I complain about Hopkins when he tries to butt, hold and clinch Calzaghe when they fight in April. In fact, I would list those traits in Hopkins as 'attributes' rather than criticisms.
For me, the bottom line is that this is the FIGHT game, not skipping in the school yard. All that dirty stuff is an integral part of the game, and referees should always allow it to go on to SOME extent IMO.
It's the lack of objectivity and consistency which pisses me off. The same people who complain about Hatton say nothing about Floyd, or Holyfield, or Hopkins etc. Complain and criticize ALL for it, or accept it as part of the game and move on...
MTF
meetthefeebles
02-03-2008, 11:45 AM
zoo (especially), castillo, tackie. yes, we can retrospect about "past-their-prime", but at the time, those guys were favoured as dangerous opponents.
true about the cheating.
This bit is 100% accurate... :clap:
...the rest though is BS, IMO
meetthefeebles
02-03-2008, 11:52 AM
:bears:
Hatton looked good at 140 but he cheated all the time and he did fight some bums as well
everyone was talking about how strong he was and he had too much pressure for lil Floyd but Floyd Raped him a new asshole:lol:
now the hatton dick suckers are trying to say it was cuz it was at 147? :lol: Floyd was a LIGHTWEIGHT!!! He is the one of the two really that is above his natural fighting weight.
Floyd simply is a better fighter and he treated Hatton like a bitch, he told the world he'd whup him and he did, whupped him and stopped him and now bitch ass Hatton is on tv crying and complaing... what a bitch...
Re-read my posts AGAIN brother LOK.
I am not saying that Hatton lost because of the weight- I said that Hatton lost SO COMPREHENSIVELY because of the weight. You will see that I said that this is because, although Mayweather started out as a lightweight, he is better able to adjust to the step up in weight than Hatton, who can't do this AT ALL, it seems.
And lightweight is NOT Mayweather's natural fighting weight- he is the WELTERWEIGHT champion of the world, FFS!
In fact, as I have said on a number of occasions, if the two fought at 140, IMO it would be more competitive but the result would be the same.
Your post, therefore, makes little sense to me I'm afraid...expect that it again shows your hatred of Hatton :dunno:
all im sayin is all you guys that were suckin hattons dick are now claiming that "if it was at 140"
or
"cortez did a bad job"
or
Hatton is really not a welter" as if Floyd is.. :lol:
sounds like a bunch of excuses to me
Orthodox Crusader
02-03-2008, 01:25 PM
Most of Ortho's Statements have a HIGH "Bullshit Factor", Thus Making it DIFFICULT to Single Out just 1...
It's like Picking your Favorite Beatles Song...Virtually IMPOSSIBLE...
REED:dunno:
Well, Sean, why didn't Jone stay at Heavyweight? Is Heavyweight a natural weigh for Roy? I think it is, he walks around there, he had a winning fight there, fuck, he was heavyweight champeen, after all, so why isn't he still there doing the heavyweight thang?
I'll tell you why, cos, 60/40 he gets his ass whupped. Thats why.
He's not a heavyweight, he just fucked around there against Johnny Louise.
Hatton is no Welterweight. I don't give a fuck what weight he is when he's not trainining.
Thats why we have weight divisions and FIGHTING WEIGHTS.
Orthodox Crusader
02-03-2008, 01:28 PM
REED REALLY LIKES U as a Poster, Mr. FEEBLES, but it's this ONE Point U Persist N Clinging to that REED Takes Issue w/...
Considering Hatton ALWAYS BLOWS Up btwn Fights, HOW Do we KNOW 147 is "Unnatural" for him???:dunno: ...Cause he STRUGGLED w/the 2 Opponents he Faced there???:dunno: ...
What if he had Faced 2 EASIER Opponents, THEN Faced Collazo & Floyd???...
The FACT is, 147 ISN'T Floyd's "Natural" Weight EITHER:nono: ...Even Collazo is CLEARLY BIGGER than Floyd is...
agREED that Hatton SHOULDN'T B Relegated to "Hamed Status", REED is just Taking Issue w/your "Weight" Issues...
& YES, if Hatton BEATS Witter, there's Really NATHAN Else for him to Prove @ 140...
REED:cool:
Considering that Roy won the heavyweight championship of the world and walked around at Heavyweight for large parts of his reign as a light heavyweight, then shouldn't Roy still be at Heavyweight, and why did he run from heavyweight to get his ass whupped 60/40 by Tarver and Roadkill Johnson??
Orthodox Crusader
02-03-2008, 01:30 PM
As USUAL, your Opinion is RUBBISH...
Roy Jones "Walks Around" @ about 180-185...The Heaviest he's EVER Been is when he Bulked Up for the Ruiz Fight...He OFFICIALLY Weighed N @ 193 & was 199 on Fightnight...
Saying Roy "Walks Around" @ 200 is Complete & Utter BULLSHIT...
REED:rolleyes:
Back in the day, anything over 190 was a heavyweight. You know Roys exact movements and weights?
The only movements you know about from a Roy perspective are his bowel movements.
What a pity Roys country ass forgets to flush.
Now....why isn't Roy up at Heavyweight? He done fought there????? No??
Come on now Mista Sean......
meetthefeebles
02-03-2008, 01:35 PM
all im sayin is all you guys that were suckin hattons dick are now claiming that "if it was at 140"
or
"cortez did a bad job"
or
Hatton is really not a welter" as if Floyd is.. :lol:
sounds like a bunch of excuses to me
When somebody loses, there has to be an explanation for the loss.
In the case of Hatton against Floyd, IMO Hatton lost because:
1. He is not capable of fighting elite guys at 147
2. He did not seriously think Mayweather could hurt him and made a serious underestimation.
3. Cortez decided from the get-go that Hatton was not going to be allowed to fight as he usually likes to inside.
4. Mayweather is a better fighter. Period.
I for one have no problem with any of that little lot, especially the 4th, HOWEVER, I take issue when people start talking about Hatton being a 'bitch' or calling him 'Vicky' and other such shit. Hatton is a very, very good champion at 140. The fact that he is not as good as Mayweather should not detract from this fact... :tease:
Oh, and not all of the Hatton cocksuckers on here are making excuses. In fact, most of them conveniently vanished and left a handful of us here to face the music... :lol:
Orthodox Crusader
02-03-2008, 01:37 PM
When somebody loses, there has to be an explanation for the loss.
In the case of Hatton against Floyd, IMO Hatton lost because:
1. He is not capable of fighting elite guys at 147
2. He did not seriously think Mayweather could hurt him and made a serious underestimation.
3. Cortez decided from the get-go that Hatton was not going to be allowed to fight as he usually likes to inside.
4. Mayweather is a better fighter. Period.
I for one have problem with any of that little lot, especially the 4th, HOWEVER, I take issue when people start talking about Hatton being a 'bitch' or calling him 'Vicky' and other such shit. Hatton is a very, very good champion at 140. The fact that he is not as good as Mayweather should not detract from this fact... :tease:
I said the same thing.
None of that means that
1. Ricky is a bitch.
2. Cortez is a decent guy.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-03-2008, 01:46 PM
Castillo, Tszyu, Tackie, Maussa and Urango are hardly 'jokes'.
Tackie isn't good. Urango isn't good. Maussa is a joke.
Castillo and Tszyu were great in their careers and if Hatton gets a pass at 147 then Castillo has to get a pass at 140 as well because he wasn't the same at 140 as he was at 135. Not to mention he was past his prime, not getting paid and his brother died right before the fight.
Zoo was real inactive and injury prone before the Hatton fight. Then add all the cheating Hatton done in the fight and there is no way you can give Hatton credit for that fight.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-03-2008, 01:47 PM
When somebody loses, there has to be an explanation for the loss.
In the case of Hatton against Floyd, IMO Hatton lost because:
1. He is not capable of fighting elite guys at 147
2. He did not seriously think Mayweather could hurt him and made a serious underestimation.
3. Cortez decided from the get-go that Hatton was not going to be allowed to fight as he usually likes to inside.
4. Mayweather is a better fighter. Period.
I for one have no problem with any of that little lot, especially the 4th, HOWEVER, I take issue when people start talking about Hatton being a 'bitch' or calling him 'Vicky' and other such shit. Hatton is a very, very good champion at 140. The fact that he is not as good as Mayweather should not detract from this fact... :tease:
Oh, and not all of the Hatton cocksuckers on here are making excuses. In fact, most of them conveniently vanished and left a handful of us here to face the music... :lol:
Number 3 i don't get. Holding is not fighting inside. When 2 fighters are locked up they get broken up. Only difference was that Cortez actually took a point and warned Vicky for the cheating. The other refs let him do it.
meetthefeebles
02-03-2008, 02:01 PM
Number 3 i don't get. Holding is not fighting inside. When 2 fighters are locked up they get broken up. Only difference was that Cortez actually took a point and warned Vicky for the cheating. The other refs let him do it.
Holding is part of boxing. Fighters should be broken up if they cannot break the clinch themselves by fighting out of it, NOT simply because they come together for a half second. I already explained this part to you earlier. :dunno:
If you insist that this is not the case, and that it is 'cheating', then what is your explanation for Floyd turning his back on his opponent and/or using his forearms to defend himself?
meetthefeebles
02-03-2008, 02:06 PM
Tackie isn't good. Urango isn't good. Maussa is a joke.
Castillo and Tszyu were great in their careers and if Hatton gets a pass at 147 then Castillo has to get a pass at 140 as well because he wasn't the same at 140 as he was at 135. Not to mention he was past his prime, not getting paid and his brother died right before the fight.
Zoo was real inactive and injury prone before the Hatton fight. Then add all the cheating Hatton done in the fight and there is no way you can give Hatton credit for that fight.
I love people who describe world titlists as 'jokes'. Some perspective goes a long way... :lol:
What pass does Hatton get at 147? He's B-level at 147. That's not giving him a pass, that's stating it as it is. :dunno:
All the rest of this is historical revisionism and hate in it's truest form (apart from Castillo's brother dying). Did you pick Hatton to win either of the Tszyu or Castillo fights?
r o o s t e r
02-04-2008, 12:20 PM
Tackie isn't good. Urango isn't good. Maussa is a joke.
Castillo and Tszyu were great in their careers and if Hatton gets a pass at 147 then Castillo has to get a pass at 140 as well because he wasn't the same at 140 as he was at 135. Not to mention he was past his prime, not getting paid and his brother died right before the fight.
Zoo was real inactive and injury prone before the Hatton fight. Then add all the cheating Hatton done in the fight and there is no way you can give Hatton credit for that fight.
fine, this is mostly agreed. but it's simple: labelling all those fights as 'jokes' is inaccurate.
you won rjjp4p - hatton got clearly beaten by floyd. no need to go overboard and try to rewrite history.
fine, this is mostly agreed. but it's simple: labelling all those fights as 'jokes' is inaccurate.
you won rjjp4p - hatton got clearly beaten by floyd. no need to go overboard and try to rewrite history.
not just "clearly beaten"
he got DOMINATED and KTFO like a BITCH!!!
r o o s t e r
02-04-2008, 12:30 PM
:blobbox:
Ugotabe Kidding
02-04-2008, 12:59 PM
Number 3 i don't get. Holding is not fighting inside. When 2 fighters are locked up they get broken up. Only difference was that Cortez actually took a point and warned Vicky for the cheating. The other refs let him do it.
What really happened was that Hatton pushed forwards as he always does. When he got close, PBF wrapped his arms around him and Cortez immediately jumped in to separate them
KaukipRrr
02-04-2008, 01:06 PM
It's like Picking your Favorite Beatles Song...Virtually IMPOSSIBLE...
REED:dunno:
:nono: I am the walrus, done. But what are you doin' listenin to that Tom-music anyway?.. wasn't the first british invasion bad enough?..:nono:
Erratic
02-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Let It Be is their best song IMO.
r o o s t e r
02-04-2008, 02:52 PM
eleanor rigby
KaukipRrr
02-04-2008, 03:11 PM
Let It Be is their best song IMO.
I think that's one of thier very WORST, but that's no suprise, seeing as I seem to hate all your favourite fighters aswell :doh: .
Erratic
02-04-2008, 03:18 PM
I think that's one of thier very WORST, but that's no suprise, seeing as I seem to hate all your favourite fighters aswell :doh: .
What do you think of Manny Pacquiao?
KaukipRrr
02-04-2008, 11:01 PM
What do you think of Manny Pacquiao?
An irrelevant midget, pretty much.
Erratic
02-04-2008, 11:05 PM
An irrelevant midget, pretty much.
He's listed as half an inch shorter than Kostya Tszyu.
Roll With The Punches
02-04-2008, 11:28 PM
Hey Jude
Joe King
02-04-2008, 11:46 PM
Beatles are overrated IMO.
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