Ricky Hatton Wants Floyd Mayweather Rematch

[KaukipRrr]

Ricky Hatton Wants Floyd Mayweather Rematch

By Mark Vester

Ricky Hatton wants to avenge the only loss of his career, a tenth-round knockout suffered at the hands of Floyd Mayweather Jr. last December in Las Vegas. Hatton is now back in the gym and starting to do some light training while his team is making plans to finalize his return, which is still holding strong for the tentative date of May 24 in Manchester.

He doesn't want to become like his countryman, Prince Naseem Hamed, who walked away from the sport after suffering the first and only of his pro career. Hatton tells The Manchester Times that he wants to be remembered for something more.

“I don't want my last fight to be that fight, me on my back getting counted out to my first defeat. What sort of a champion would I be if I didn't come back and try and prove myself? Naseem Hamed's situation is a shame; he's one of the best fighters we've ever had, but unfortunately because of the way he bowed out, he's going to be remembered for his defeat rather than all the success that went before. I don't want to go down that same route," Hatton said.

“All the greatest fighters - [Rocky] Marciano being the exception - have lost and you become a good champion by coming back from adversity. If I come back stronger, people will hold me in even higher regard.” I'm not going to say how many more fights because I don't know. But there are things I still want to do: I'd like to top the bill at Madison Square Gardens, I'd like to fight in the City of Manchester Stadium. And I'd like another go at Floyd.”

The rematch with Floyd is something he wants to do before retiring. He doesn't feel that he was given a fair fight from referee Joe Cortez.

"There's one or two things I want to do and one of those is to prove people wrong. If you're a man, that's what you do. So I'd like to fight Floyd again; last time, I don't think I was given a fair crack of the whip. I've had one of the longest unbeaten reigns in the sport so whatever I was doing, I was doing right. I've always done the same thing and I'll carry on doing so.”

“I'd rather give credit to Floyd than blame the referee,” he said. “But this is not just me feeling sorry for myself and finding something to complain about. I have a lot of respect for Mr Cortez. Maybe he just had an off-night. And I was a little bit over-keen, over-eager and I made the cardinal sin of losing my composure. But I thought I could have won the fight, yet I started having arguments mid-round with the referee. I'd never done that in 43 fights. Floyd would be turning his back and I'd be saying: ‘Where do you want me to hit him when he's doing that?' It got to the point where I thought, ‘I'm scared of hitting him in case I get warned'.

Most experts didn’t give Hatton much of a chance in December, and they don’t give him much of a chance in a rematch. Hatton says Collazo and Phillips were tougher fights.

“I've honestly had tougher fights. Like any great champion, Floyd found the right punches at the right time. When I fought Vince Phillips and Luis Collazo, I wasn't in the best shape afterwards, I was sore and really tired. Even after being knocked out by Floyd, I don't think it was a physically demanding fight; I'd felt worse after six-rounders."

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I'm not a Hatton fan and never have been, nor will be, I dislike the repugnant troll, and think he's overrated these days, however the print in bold needs to be fucking amplified. Good call :eeeek: :bears: .

[meetthefeebles]

Ricky Hatton Wants Floyd Mayweather Rematch

By Mark Vester

Ricky Hatton wants to avenge the only loss of his career, a tenth-round knockout suffered at the hands of Floyd Mayweather Jr. last December in Las Vegas. Hatton is now back in the gym and starting to do some light training while his team is making plans to finalize his return, which is still holding strong for the tentative date of May 24 in Manchester.

He doesn't want to become like his countryman, Prince Naseem Hamed, who walked away from the sport after suffering the first and only of his pro career. Hatton tells The Manchester Times that he wants to be remembered for something more.

“I don't want my last fight to be that fight, me on my back getting counted out to my first defeat. What sort of a champion would I be if I didn't come back and try and prove myself? Naseem Hamed's situation is a shame; he's one of the best fighters we've ever had, but unfortunately because of the way he bowed out, he's going to be remembered for his defeat rather than all the success that went before. I don't want to go down that same route," Hatton said.

“All the greatest fighters - [Rocky] Marciano being the exception - have lost and you become a good champion by coming back from adversity. If I come back stronger, people will hold me in even higher regard.” I'm not going to say how many more fights because I don't know. But there are things I still want to do: I'd like to top the bill at Madison Square Gardens, I'd like to fight in the City of Manchester Stadium. And I'd like another go at Floyd.”

The rematch with Floyd is something he wants to do before retiring. He doesn't feel that he was given a fair fight from referee Joe Cortez.

"There's one or two things I want to do and one of those is to prove people wrong. If you're a man, that's what you do. So I'd like to fight Floyd again; last time, I don't think I was given a fair crack of the whip. I've had one of the longest unbeaten reigns in the sport so whatever I was doing, I was doing right. I've always done the same thing and I'll carry on doing so.”

“I'd rather give credit to Floyd than blame the referee,” he said. “But this is not just me feeling sorry for myself and finding something to complain about. I have a lot of respect for Mr Cortez. Maybe he just had an off-night. And I was a little bit over-keen, over-eager and I made the cardinal sin of losing my composure. But I thought I could have won the fight, yet I started having arguments mid-round with the referee. I'd never done that in 43 fights. Floyd would be turning his back and I'd be saying: ‘Where do you want me to hit him when he's doing that?' It got to the point where I thought, ‘I'm scared of hitting him in case I get warned'.

Most experts didn’t give Hatton much of a chance in December, and they don’t give him much of a chance in a rematch. Hatton says Collazo and Phillips were tougher fights.

“I've honestly had tougher fights. Like any great champion, Floyd found the right punches at the right time. When I fought Vince Phillips and Luis Collazo, I wasn't in the best shape afterwards, I was sore and really tired. Even after being knocked out by Floyd, I don't think it was a physically demanding fight; I'd felt worse after six-rounders."

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I'm not a Hatton fan and never have been, nor will be, I dislike the repugnant troll, and think he's overrated these days, however the print in bold needs to be fucking amplified. Good call :eeeek: :bears: .

Please tell me it isn't so... :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :eek:

[REEDsART]

So Joe Cortez DROPPED Hatton w/a Check Hook???:dunno: ...

It's Bad Enough Hatton is SHAMELESSLY DUCKING Junior Witter, but NOW he's Making EXCUSES for the 1-Sided ASS WHIPPING he Received???...

The BITCH N Hatton is Starting to SURFACE...


REED:cool:

[KaukipRrr]

So Joe Cortez DROPPED Hatton w/a Check Hook???:dunno: ...

It's Bad Enough Hatton is SHAMELESSLY DUCKING Junior Witter, but NOW he's Making EXCUSES for the 1-Sided ASS WHIPPING he Received???...

The BITCH N Hatton is Starting to SURFACE...


REED:cool:

:nono: It's a matter of how Fraud deals with adversity, when he's uncomfortable, he resorts to illegal measures, and this is ofcourse fine with Fraud-groupies, he's allowed to break the rules, so long as he preserves that precious, delicious zero, you can't high roll with a loss in the slot, it's the unthinkable :nono: .

[Ugotabe Kidding]

So Joe Cortez DROPPED Hatton w/a Check Hook???:dunno: ...

It's Bad Enough Hatton is SHAMELESSLY DUCKING Junior Witter, but NOW he's Making EXCUSES for the 1-Sided ASS WHIPPING he Received???...

The BITCH N Hatton is Starting to SURFACE...


REED:cool:

Nah, it is typical for fighters. The day you admi´t somebody is better than you, your career is over.

there is no need for rematch, the first fight left nothing to speculate about

[Erratic]

Oooh pooor Ricky, the ref was lousy.



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Cortez's performance was actually one of his better ones in recent years, which shows you how far he's fallen as a ref.

[ILLUMINATI]

Ricky Hatton Wants Floyd Mayweather Rematch

By Mark Vester

Ricky Hatton wants to avenge the only loss of his career, a tenth-round knockout suffered at the hands of Floyd Mayweather Jr. last December in Las Vegas. Hatton is now back in the gym and starting to do some light training while his team is making plans to finalize his return, which is still holding strong for the tentative date of May 24 in Manchester.

He doesn't want to become like his countryman, Prince Naseem Hamed, who walked away from the sport after suffering the first and only of his pro career. Hatton tells The Manchester Times that he wants to be remembered for something more.

“I don't want my last fight to be that fight, me on my back getting counted out to my first defeat. What sort of a champion would I be if I didn't come back and try and prove myself? Naseem Hamed's situation is a shame; he's one of the best fighters we've ever had, but unfortunately because of the way he bowed out, he's going to be remembered for his defeat rather than all the success that went before. I don't want to go down that same route," Hatton said.

“All the greatest fighters - [Rocky] Marciano being the exception - have lost and you become a good champion by coming back from adversity. If I come back stronger, people will hold me in even higher regard.” I'm not going to say how many more fights because I don't know. But there are things I still want to do: I'd like to top the bill at Madison Square Gardens, I'd like to fight in the City of Manchester Stadium. And I'd like another go at Floyd.”

The rematch with Floyd is something he wants to do before retiring. He doesn't feel that he was given a fair fight from referee Joe Cortez.

"There's one or two things I want to do and one of those is to prove people wrong. If you're a man, that's what you do. So I'd like to fight Floyd again; last time, I don't think I was given a fair crack of the whip. I've had one of the longest unbeaten reigns in the sport so whatever I was doing, I was doing right. I've always done the same thing and I'll carry on doing so.”

“I'd rather give credit to Floyd than blame the referee,” he said. “But this is not just me feeling sorry for myself and finding something to complain about. I have a lot of respect for Mr Cortez. Maybe he just had an off-night. And I was a little bit over-keen, over-eager and I made the cardinal sin of losing my composure. But I thought I could have won the fight, yet I started having arguments mid-round with the referee. I'd never done that in 43 fights. Floyd would be turning his back and I'd be saying: ‘Where do you want me to hit him when he's doing that?' It got to the point where I thought, ‘I'm scared of hitting him in case I get warned'.

Most experts didn’t give Hatton much of a chance in December, and they don’t give him much of a chance in a rematch. Hatton says Collazo and Phillips were tougher fights.

“I've honestly had tougher fights. Like any great champion, Floyd found the right punches at the right time. When I fought Vince Phillips and Luis Collazo, I wasn't in the best shape afterwards, I was sore and really tired. Even after being knocked out by Floyd, I don't think it was a physically demanding fight; I'd felt worse after six-rounders."

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I'm not a Hatton fan and never have been, nor will be, I dislike the repugnant troll, and think he's overrated these days, however the print in bold needs to be fucking amplified. Good call :eeeek: :bears: .



:lol::lol: ...yeah I didn't know Mayweather uses the shoulder roll defense...:doh:

[dsimon3387]

dsimon writes:

Way to go Kaulki making excuses for Hatton. Pow!!!! check hook Pow!!! check hook!!!!!!

What a load of shite Kauki. I hope dymipimpel has something to say about this.

[KaukipRrr]

Oooh pooor Ricky, the ref was lousy.



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Cortez's performance was actually one of his better ones in recent years, which shows you how far he's fallen as a ref.

Yes, I know Hatton is a hypocritical dirty bastard, but what's your opinion on the subject of Fraud's chronic elbowing and backtwisting every fight?...I believe I've never heard any such denouncing from you before? :dunno: .... :crafty: are you cool with it?,.. is it healthy for the sport, to cut other fighters eyebrows and cheeks with the elbow, or have to wait until your opponent turns around to throw punches as I've highlighted ^..i.e...the intended focus for this thread :doh: ?..

[KaukipRrr]

dsimon writes:

Way to go Kaulki making excuses for Hatton. Pow!!!! check hook Pow!!! check hook!!!!!!

What a load of shite Kauki. I hope dymipimpel has something to say about this.

This is about a felony I've been pointing out for quite some time, I don't care about Hatton's excuses or even the entire article for that matter, I care about that one crucial observation that I've highlighted, which referees and conveniently Fraud's groupies, seem to be ignoring.

[Erratic]

Yes, I know Hatton is a hypocritical dirty bastard, but what's your opinion on the subject of Fraud's chronic elbowing and backtwisting every fight?...I believe I've never heard any such denouncing from you before? :dunno: .... :crafty: are you cool with it?,.. is it healthy for the sport, to cut other fighters eyebrows and cheeks with the elbow, or have to wait until your opponent turns around to throw punches as I've highlighted ^..i.e...the intended focus for this thread :doh: ?..

Mayweather gets away with illegal tactics like many guys do.

Lewis liked to hit and hold, especially with the right uppercut. He did it against Grant, Klitschko (watch the 6th round right uppercut, he again did the 'hold the neck with the left and hit him with the right uppercut), Tyson, etc....He was very lucky not get DQ'd against Mike Acey early in his career when he smacked him with 3 punches to the face when Acey was down.

Hatton, Hopkins, Tyson, Casamayor...do I need to explain anything at all?

Holyfield...headbutting steroid user.

The list goes on and on.

[KaukipRrr]

Mayweather gets away with illegal tactics like many guys do.

Lewis liked to hit and hold, especially with the right uppercut. He did it against Grant, Klitschko (watch the 6th round right uppercut, he again did the 'hold the neck with the left and hit him with the right uppercut), Tyson, etc....He was very lucky not get DQ'd against Mike Acey early in his career when he smacked him with 3 punches to the face when Acey was down.

Hatton, Hopkins, Tyson, Casamayor...do I need to explain anything at all?

Holyfield...headbutting steroid user.

The list goes on and on.

Atleast they seemed to garner 'some' warnings,.....but in Fraud's case.........his fouls are often depicted as "Defensive wizardry",....:rolleyes:

[Erratic]

Atleast they seemed to garner 'some' warnings,.....but in Fraud's case.........his fouls are often depicted as "Defensive wizardry",....:rolleyes:

Mayweather got a point deducted against Castillo for using the elbow/forearm.

How long did it take Holyfield to get a point deducted for his fouls? Lewis for his fouls?

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[Neil]

if hatton gets a few impressive wins a rematch would certainly become viable.

[dymipepel]

:nono: It's a matter of how Fraud deals with adversity .

Kauki, could you tell us how Tszyu deals with advercity, on example, say, of his fight with Ricky Hatton?

[KaukipRrr]

Mayweather got a point deducted against Castillo for using the elbow/forearm.

How long did it take Holyfield to get a point deducted for his fouls? Lewis for his fouls?

:crafty: Agreed and that was quite telling, because he turned into JELLY once that crucial component was stripped from his clutches. The elbow is obviously the more conspicous and offensive foul of the two, and should by all rights warrant IMMEDIATE, vigilant attention from referees, which it barely fucking has :rolleyes: !, (apart from Vic Drakulich ofcourse)..but in regards to 'defensive wizardry' I was moreso referring to Fraud's version of that fucking 'shoulder roll' shit, as highlighted ^^^^ one of Fraud's opponents has spoken out, and identified it as 'turning his back" (atlast).... but American fans and the press, seem to disagree, and call it "brilliant defence" :rolleyes: .

[Double L]

great. next time PBF feels pressured into fighting a real threat at 147, he can just make the rematch with Hatton. perfect.

[*Z*]

It should be legal to punch Floyd in the damn spine if he turns his back.

[Orthodox Crusader]

So Joe Cortez DROPPED Hatton w/a Check Hook???:dunno: ...

It's Bad Enough Hatton is SHAMELESSLY DUCKING Junior Witter, but NOW he's Making EXCUSES for the 1-Sided ASS WHIPPING he Received???...

The BITCH N Hatton is Starting to SURFACE...


REED:cool:

Bullshit.

Cortez was abysmal on the night and everybody in that crowd that night knows it. Hatton might never beat Mayweather in a month of Sundays but thats all the more reason for Cortez to take a less intrusive role. Note the similarities: Hatton gets a point with NO warning for a vague infringement, just as Castillo did in the Hatton fight. Now, Castillo wasn't going to beat Hatton in a month of Sundays either but Cortez fucked with Castillo and let Hatton hold regardless. He reversed his role for the Mayweather fight. Now I know Joe has a sick daughter and all but if he is that easily compromised he needs to find a new gig.

I've given Mayweather all the credit he deserves for that win and I always will. But Hatton was specifically put off by Cortez- but Ricky had the common courtesy to hold his tongue and allow Floyd to savour the moment, just like Hearns did with Hagler.

Hatton is within his rights to point this out. It doesn't damage peoples perceptions of Mayweather so I fail to see why Reed needs to get his liner in a twist. Nobody thinks any less of Mayweather. He's a fighter. He does what he has to do and if Cortez is aiding him then so be it. Thats not Mayweathers fault.

Hatton has never had an ounce of bitch in him, but then again we should know better than to expect any other sentiments from a guy who openly disparages and makes light of fighters when it suits him.

Hatton doesn't want a rematch, he wants to cash out. A rematch is probably the fastest route out of the game for him. If he really wants to go that route, he can. Seeing as Mayweather isn't up to fuck all right now, I fail to see what the problem is.

As for Witter, well....by Reeds own standards, Witter hasn't "manned up" and come to America, so, by Reeds logic, Witter isn't in a position to demand shit.

[dymipepel]

I think we should all agree to go back to the original thread here, namely:
Mayweather brutalizing and KOing Hatton, who, in turn, brutalized and made the inner bitch come out of Kauki's favorite fighter.
That's the real point of thread here, I think.

[Orthodox Crusader]

It should be legal to punch Floyd in the damn spine if he turns his back.


Ironically...the punch never landed. It was a first "offence" and a point came off. If I was Hatton I would have kept it up until DQ'd. Cortez would probably never ref another fight and Hattons purse would be witheld, released, and a rematch planned.

[dymipepel]

Ironically...the punch never landed. It was a first "offence" and a point came off. If I was Hatton I would have kept it up until DQ'd. Cortez would probably never ref another fight and Hattons purse would be witheld, released, and a rematch planned.

Ortho, what went through your head when you saw that picture-perfect check-hook land flush and Hatton's chin, and Hatton being KOed cold shortly afterwards?

[KaukipRrr]

I think we should all agree to go back to the original thread here, namely:
Mayweather brutalizing and KOing Hatton, who, in turn, brutalized and made the inner bitch come out of Kauki's favorite fighter.
That's the real point of thread here, I think.

Why are you so intent on hurting my feelings Dympeople? :dunno:

[Orthodox Crusader]

Ortho, what went through your head when you saw that picture-perfect check-hook land flush and Hatton's chin, and Hatton being KOed cold shortly afterwards?


Something like "What time does the bookies open at cos he owes me money".

[dymipepel]

Why are you so intent on hurting my feelings Dympeople? :dunno:

I don't think pointing out the fact that Tszyu deals with adversity by quitting disgracefully, while Floyd deals with adversity by KOing his opponent is "hurting anyone". :dunno:

Your feelings are not hurt, when you're told that Earth is round,
why are your feelings hurt, when someone tells you Tszyu is a quiiter, and Floyd is a winner?

[dymipepel]

Something like "What time does the bookies open at cos he owes me money".

So, you basically knew that Hatton was a fraud from the very beginning and decided to put significant amount of money on a much superior fighter and human being, such as PBF?

[Orthodox Crusader]

So, you basically knew that Hatton was a fraud from the very beginning and decided to put significant amount of money on a much superior fighter and human being, such as PBF?


No....I placed several bets, as does anybody who knows what the fuck they are doing.

[dymipepel]

No....I placed several bets, as does anybody who knows what the fuck they are doing.

But did you know that Floyd was such a superior to Hatton, both in terms of boxing skills and human qualities?

[Orthodox Crusader]

But did you know that Floyd was such a superior to Hatton, both in terms of boxing skills and human qualities?

In boxing skills, yes.

In qualities, yes.

In boxing qualities, yes.

In quality skills, yes.

In human skills, yes.

In quality human skills, yes.

But in human qualities? No. I didn't know that. And I still don't.

[Xplosive]

So much for Ricky claiming he had no excuses.:rolleyes:

I say give him the rematch. Let Floyd KO his ass again, earlier this time, and see what Ricky has to say then.

[dymipepel]

In boxing skills, yes.

In qualities, yes.

In boxing qualities, yes.

In quality skills, yes.

In human skills, yes.

In quality human skills, yes.

But in human qualities? No. I didn't know that. And I still don't.

Were you angry that a white fighter got battered from pillar to post and got totally outclassed?

[dymipepel]

I say give him the rematch. Let Floyd KO his ass again, earlier this time, and see what Ricky has to say then.

I agree. The rematch should happen, then Floyd can go about cleaning out 147 lbs the 2-nd time around.

[KaukipRrr]

I don't think pointing out the fact that Tszyu deals with adversity by quitting disgracefully, while Floyd deals with adversity by KOing his opponent is "hurting anyone". :dunno:

Your feelings are not hurt, when you're told that Earth is round,
why are your feelings hurt, when someone tells you Tszyu is a quiiter, and Floyd is a winner?

But you referred to him as Kauki's anger over his favourite quitting bitch who became Floyd's grandson as the real agenda,... :( ,..so I think it's obvious your hurting me.

[dymipepel]

But you referred to him as Kauki's anger over his favourite quitting bitch who became Floyd's grandson as the real agenda,... :( ,..so I think it's obvious your hurting me.

Facts are facts and they never hurt anyone. :dunno:
If it's a fact it's sunny outside, how pointing it out is hurting you?
If it's a fact Zoo quit against Ricky, while Floyd brutalized Ricky, how pointing it out is hurting you? :dunno:

[Orthodox Crusader]

Were you angry that a white fighter got battered from pillar to post and got totally outclassed?

No, because I could have done no better, and as I was saying my bookie was getting ready to pay out. Nothing like some money to make a man not give a fuck....{after a while}

[KaukipRrr]

Facts are facts and they never hurt anyone. :dunno:
If it's a fact it's sunny outside, how pointing it out is hurting you?
If it's a fact Zoo quit against Ricky, while Floyd brutalized Ricky, how pointing it out is hurting you? :dunno:

Several fighters, have several opponents, the concept of "subject" is void if you apply the 'woman who swallowed a fly' theory, thus Dympeople your completely drowning out the focal point of my thread, and therefore crushing all of my hopes and dreams,....

:( Why?

[meetthefeebles]

Bullshit.

Cortez was abysmal on the night and everybody in that crowd that night knows it. Hatton might never beat Mayweather in a month of Sundays but thats all the more reason for Cortez to take a less intrusive role. Note the similarities: Hatton gets a point with NO warning for a vague infringement, just as Castillo did in the Hatton fight. Now, Castillo wasn't going to beat Hatton in a month of Sundays either but Cortez fucked with Castillo and let Hatton hold regardless. He reversed his role for the Mayweather fight. Now I know Joe has a sick daughter and all but if he is that easily compromised he needs to find a new gig.

I've given Mayweather all the credit he deserves for that win and I always will. But Hatton was specifically put off by Cortez- but Ricky had the common courtesy to hold his tongue and allow Floyd to savour the moment, just like Hearns did with Hagler.

Hatton is within his rights to point this out. It doesn't damage peoples perceptions of Mayweather so I fail to see why Reed needs to get his liner in a twist. Nobody thinks any less of Mayweather. He's a fighter. He does what he has to do and if Cortez is aiding him then so be it. Thats not Mayweathers fault.

Hatton has never had an ounce of bitch in him, but then again we should know better than to expect any other sentiments from a guy who openly disparages and makes light of fighters when it suits him.

Hatton doesn't want a rematch, he wants to cash out. A rematch is probably the fastest route out of the game for him. If he really wants to go that route, he can. Seeing as Mayweather isn't up to fuck all right now, I fail to see what the problem is.

As for Witter, well....by Reeds own standards, Witter hasn't "manned up" and come to America, so, by Reeds logic, Witter isn't in a position to demand shit.

Excellent Post :clap:

[The Genius]

What the fuck for? There is nothing Hatton can do to win that fight back turning or otherwise.

Floyd is a bigger, faster and better fighter than RH. There would be no difference in the victor if they fought again.

[Hex-One]

What the fuck for? There is nothing Hatton can do to win that fight back turning or otherwise.

Floyd is a bigger, faster and better fighter than RH. There would be no difference in the victor if they fought again. I agree! Hatton has no chance in a rematch.

[meetthefeebles]

What the fuck for? There is nothing Hatton can do to win that fight back turning or otherwise.

Floyd is a bigger, faster and better fighter than RH. There would be no difference in the victor if they fought again.

Never a truer word spoken...

[KaukipRrr]

This is not about Hatton :flip: , he is ofcourse a hypocrit when it comes to dirty, illegal tactics, ..........the initiation of this thread, was to point out, that finally someone, ANYONE!.. for the first time, is shining a spotlight on one of Fraud's most notoriously illegal impliments, which happens to be an extremely fundamental component of his defensive system, and so long as Fraud can continue turning his back and bailing himself out of dangerous scenarios where his opponent has achieved the difficult task of trapping him against the ropes, ie- the goal of pressure fighters,...Fraud will preserve that all important '0', and it doesn't matter if he flagrantly breaks the rules to do so, this is further proof, that it's not about the sport, it's soley about america's most celebrated fighter, and all the symbolism affiliated with it, which in turn has elevated him above boxing, especially during these 'depressing' times of increased foreign influx :rolleyes: .

[dymipepel]

Kauki, what is your opinion on highly illegal tactics, consistently employed by Kostya throughout his career: hitting after the bell, hitting below the belt, constant wrestling?

[Erratic]

Kauki, what is your opinion on highly illegal tactics, consistently employed by Kostya throughout his career: hitting after the bell, hitting below the belt, constant wrestling?

You forgot throwing guys to the ground.

[Roll With The Punches]

the rematch should be at 140

[dymipepel]

You forgot throwing guys to the ground.

I didn't mention it because I doubt Kauki will find an excuse for that trick of Kostya's.....He might, however, find a good excuse for all the other dirty tactics Zoo employed....I'm just wondering what that excuse is going to be....

[KaukipRrr]

Tszyu, like every other fighter who hits after the bell or throws his opponent to the ground, was penalised or atleast warned, how many warnings has Fraud ever recieved for turning his back? ...and how often is he able to get away with shoving his elbow and forearm into opponents heads and throats?...I mean THIS in particular is a SERIOUS felon that should warrant mass fines and suspensions, but he barely even ever gets a warning for it,.. and the backtwisting.......well asI said that's considered "brilliant defence" ........:rolleyes:

:nono: The closest comparison you can make to a fighter fouling with impunity as much as Fraud is perhaps John Ruiz for his career of constant clinching, it's no wonder he was an "over-achiever" too.

[Erratic]

Tszyu, like every other fighter who hits after the bell or throws his opponent to the ground, was penalised or atleast warned, how many warnings has Fraud ever recieved for turning his back? ...and how often is he able to get away with shoving his elbow and forearm into opponents heads and throats?...I mean THIS in particular is a SERIOUS felon that should warrant mass fines and suspensions, but he barely even ever gets a warning for it,.. and the backtwisting.......well asI said that's considered "brilliant defence" ........:rolleyes:

:nono: The closest comparison you can make to a fighter fouling with impunity as much as Fraud is perhaps John Ruiz for his career of constant clinching, it's no wonder he was an "over-achiever" too.

:laughing:

How often did Lennox Lewis get points deducted for his fouls? He held and hit all the time. He hit Acey three times when he was down. He knocked out Grant by holding his neck and hitting him with an uppercut. I only remember him once getting a point deducted. When did Evander Holyfield get points deducted for his tactics?

They've done far more damage with their fouls (when has PBF stopped an opponent with a forearm or caused them to grow a 2nd head?) and have had points deducted either less, or the same amount, as PBF.

[KaukipRrr]

:laughing:

How often did Lennox Lewis get points deducted for his fouls? He held and hit all the time. He hit Acey three times when he was down. He knocked out Grant by holding his neck and hitting him with an uppercut. I only remember him once getting a point deducted. When did Evander Holyfield get points deducted for his tactics?

They've done far more damage with their fouls (when has PBF stopped an opponent with a forearm or caused them to grow a 2nd head?) and have had points deducted either less, or the same amount, as PBF.

If you have a fighter unleasche a blatant elbow to someones eye or throat, which causes great damage, why wouldn't or shouldn't it result in a fine or suspension?..This is the thing as far as vision is concerned, Holyfield's sneaky lead headbutts are most certainly illegal, but they aren't as clear to the eyes as someone standing upright against the ropes, with a long jaggered elbow being grounded into someones face, :dunno: and why are you referring to different fouls from other fighters anyway?, just because other fighters commit fouls it makes it alright for everyone to get in there and blatantly lowball without any such a backlash or condemnation?,.. in order to prove me wrong, you'd have to argue why it IS ok, and perfectly acceptable to turn your back and elbow people in the throat and face in order to defend yourself?. :nono: You are acting like a groupie by passing the buck.

[Erratic]

If you have a fighter unleasche a blatant elbow to someones eye or throat, which causes great damage, why wouldn't or shouldn't it result in a fine or suspension?..This is the thing as far as vision is concerned, Holyfield's sneaky lead headbutts are most certainly illegal, but they aren't as clear to the eyes as someone standing upright against the ropes, with a long jaggered elbow being grounded into someones face, :dunno: and why are you referring to different fouls from other fighters anyway?, just because other fighters commit fouls it makes it alright for everyone to get in there and blatantly lowball without any such a backlash or condemnation?,.. in order to prove me wrong, you'd have to argue why it IS ok, and perfectly acceptable to turn your back and elbow people in the throat and face in order to defend yourself?. :nono: You are acting like a groupie by passing the buck.

You already asked my opinion on Floyd's fouling and I told you, I'm used to guys fouling by watching fighters foul all the time.

Hell, I have my doubts that my favorite fighter ever (Tyson) would have lost to Holyfield if Holyfield hadn't cheated his way to the heavyweight division by filling his body full of HGH, but I don't yap about it constantly like you and Floyd's oh-so-bad forearm.

If any foul deserves fines and suspensions, it's the rabbit punch, which so frequently gets used and rarely punished. That is the most dangerous foul because it's towards the brain stem.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Cortez's performance was actually one of his better ones in recent years, which shows you how far he's fallen as a ref.
Exactly. What is the ref supposed to do, let Ricky them stay clinched for like 30 seconds because Vicky can't fight for shit. The guy is a crappy fighter who relies on cheating. It's pretty pathetic when you are complaining about the ref breaking up clinches like Ricky and his fans do. Nobody watches a boxing match to seeing holding.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

if hatton gets a few impressive wins a rematch would certainly become viable.No it wouldn't. Your Hatton love is out of control. Anybody who scored more then 1 round to Vicky in his last fight can't score fights.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Ironically...the punch never landed. It was a first "offence" and a point came off. If I was Hatton I would have kept it up until DQ'd. Cortez would probably never ref another fight and Hattons purse would be witheld, released, and a rematch planned.There is no rule that you you have to give warnings. It was a flagrant foul. Ricky spins Mayweather around and trys to hit him in the back of the head. Punches to the back of the head are very dangorous thats why they are illegal. He knew that Mayweather had his back turned when he threw the punch. Anyways it shows how crappy Hatton is that he couldn't even hit Floyd when he was looking the other way :lol:

[Ugotabe Kidding]

Exactly. What is the ref supposed to do, let Ricky them stay clinched for like 30 seconds because Vicky can't fight for shit. The guy is a crappy fighter who relies on cheating. It's pretty pathetic when you are complaining about the ref breaking up clinches like Ricky and his fans do. Nobody watches a boxing match to seeing holding.

So why do you think Mayweather held so much when they were up close?

[Xplosive]

if hatton gets a few impressive wins a rematch would certainly become viable.

He doesnt really deserve a rematch in my mind. The fight wasnt competitive enough to warrant one. Except for the 5th round, Floyd won every round in my book, and really put it on Ricky from the 8th round up until the KO. And THAT part had nothing at all to do with Cortez.

I would say Floyd should give him a rematch for the helluva it, but it really would be a waste of his time. How you motivate yourself to rematch an opponent you dominated? Hell if Hatton deserves a rematch, Floyd might as well give one to Jesus Chavez as well. Cause Hatton was no more competitve against Floyd than Chavez was. Both of them tried to swarm Floyd, and got worn down and fucked up!

The DLH rematch makes a bit more sense to me, cause at least Oscar won 4 rounds and has room to improve. Hatton won 1 round and really can do NOTHING different that would change the outcome. Plus Floyd has bigger fish to fry than Hatton anyway, and his name is Miguel Cotto.

Hatton better focus instead on cleaning out 140. Cause its no guarantee that he beats either Malignaggi, or Witter.

[LOK]

lol lol lol lol

WHAT A BITCH:lol: :lol: :doh:

I didn't even think Hatton was THIS big of a bitch


I say.. ok, make a re-match, I got an idea, as a "tune up" have Hatton fight Cotto:crafty:

I'd like to see him KO'd two more times in a row

[KaukipRrr]

You already asked my opinion on Floyd's fouling and I told you, I'm used to guys fouling by watching fighters foul all the time.

Hell, I have my doubts that my favorite fighter ever (Tyson) would have lost to Holyfield if Holyfield hadn't cheated his way to the heavyweight division by filling his body full of HGH, but I don't yap about it constantly like you and Floyd's oh-so-bad forearm.

If any foul deserves fines and suspensions, it's the rabbit punch, which so frequently gets used and rarely punished. That is the most dangerous foul because it's towards the brain stem.

:crafty: Here's a hypothetical,...........If Hatton's defence to avoid further punches when he were hurt, was to run to the corner, hold the ropes and face the crowd with his back turned to Fraud for a breather, and poor Floyd stands behind him confused, and tentatively jabs him to the back, which Cortez pulls up and penalizes immediately, forcing Fraud to just stand behind him, doing nothing, waiting, hoping, for him to turn back around, I think by the rounds end this board would be foaming from the mouth with rage wouldn't ya say? :crafty: . Then in the very next round Hatton elbows Fraud above his right eye, and it starts pissing out blood, Hatton subsequently knocks him out cold with a left hook on Fraud's blindside,... :crafty: Afterwards, do you think this forum would politely mutter, that "fare is fare, all fighters foul"...?...or do you think perhaps the messaegboard would BURN HARD!!!!!!!........ There's no 'grey area' about a foul :nono: that hypothetical was blown up out of proportion ofcourse, but the basic rules broken in that description are the rules Fraud breaks all the time, being elusive about fouling, does not make it legal, no matter how many other fighters you cite, or the severity of each individual foul, you know it's wrong :nono: , and what's truelly pathetic about Fraud, is that he RELIES on these particular tactics to avoid getting hit, it is a FUNDAMENTAL part of his boxing and it gets worse Erratic :doh: instead of people saying, "He's a fucken cheat, what he does is illegal, and the referees are not pulling him up for it!" like they did for John Ruiz,....... ......................we hear that perhaps....."Floyd's got the best defence in boxing history bar no-one" . http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif it's enough to make one sick.

Yes I sound like a broken record, but I realise that's because instead of you proving that elbows and backtwisting is LEGAL, and Floyd doesn't rely on them heavily in order to avoid punches and subsequently win, you are trying to expand what Fraud does, (foul) across other examples to justify that it shouldn't be heavily condemned, but accepted?.

[dymipepel]

:crafty: Here's a hypothetical,............

Kauki, here's another hypotethetical......Why Kostya Tszyu never fought elite fighters like ODLH, Mosley, PBF, Tito, Quartey, etc?
What did he choose to fight (and lose) to bums like Hatton, Philips, etc?
What woulda happen to Kostya, if he had the balls to take on the best?
As you can see, we can discuss a lot of hypotheticals....

[Trplsec]

So Joe Cortez DROPPED Hatton w/a Check Hook???:dunno: ...

It's Bad Enough Hatton is SHAMELESSLY DUCKING Junior Witter, but NOW he's Making EXCUSES for the 1-Sided ASS WHIPPING he Received???...

The BITCH N Hatton is Starting to SURFACE...


REED:cool:


No shit.. Ricky is coveniently forgetting the fact that he got knocked the fuck out.

[LOK]

This Hatton dick suckers think he got dominated and KTFO cuz the ref... and cuz Floyd turns his head:lol:

No shit.. Ricky is coveniently forgetting the fact that he got knocked the fuck out.

[Trplsec]

This Hatton dick suckers think he got dominated and KTFO cuz the ref... and cuz Floyd turns his head:lol:


Wow... That's not what I meant to imply... :lol: :lol:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

So why do you think Mayweather held so much when they were up close?Vicky done all the holding.

[Trplsec]

This thread represents what I love about boxers and boxing fans. A few weeks is all it takes to start rationalizing and making excuses for loses.

In a few more weeks Hatton and his fans will likely be delusional enough to think that the fight should have been stopped in Round 1 when Ricky staggered Foyd. How could Cortez let it continue?

Damn ref.

[meetthefeebles]

This thread represents what I love about boxers and boxing fans. A few weeks is all it takes to start rationalizing and making excuses for loses.

In a few more weeks Hatton and his fans will likely be delusional enough to think that the fight should have been stopped in Round 1 when Ricky staggered Foyd. How could Cortez let it continue?

Damn ref.

Good shout- I never thought of that one...

:lol:

[Trplsec]

Good shout- I never thought of that one...

:lol:


:lol:

[meetthefeebles]

:lol:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again- Cortez did Hatton no favours on the night, but it had no bearing on the result.

The better fighter by far won.

It's not really this issue that most Hatton fans get uptight about. It's that, because he lost to the best fighter in the world, he suddenly becomes a 'bitch' and a 'bum' in the eyes of Floyd fans and Hatton haters. And whilst he clearly lost to a better fighter in Mayweather, he is no bum.

Would you (at least), agree with this Triple?

[Trplsec]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again- Cortez did Hatton no favours on the night, but it had no bearing on the result.

The better fighter by far won.

It's not really this issue that most Hatton fans get uptight about. It's that, because he lost to the best fighter in the world, he suddenly becomes a 'bitch' and a 'bum' in the eyes of Floyd fans and Hatton haters. And whilst he clearly lost to a better fighter in Mayweather, he is no bum.

Would you (at least), agree with this Triple?

Hatton is not a bitch. Hatton attacked with everything he had. Mayweather is just an all time great fighter.

As to your other point regarding Hatton suddenly being a bum, I don't think that's true either. Personally I don't let time and speculation dull the luster of the big win against Tszyu. Likewise, beating up Maussa, fighting hard to beat Collazo, and crushing an always-tough Castillo are all worthy accomplishments.

However, I think Hatton hit the nail on the head. He needs to comeback and get some wins at 140 in order to not have his legacy be forever tarnished by being the guy that was exposed when he finally met Mayweather.

[Orthodox Crusader]

This thread represents what I love about boxers and boxing fans. A few weeks is all it takes to start rationalizing and making excuses for loses.

In a few more weeks Hatton and his fans will likely be delusional enough to think that the fight should have been stopped in Round 1 when Ricky staggered Foyd. How could Cortez let it continue?

Damn ref.


Hey...all fighters have excuses. Hearns had his massage.

Hatton hasn't really done anything to damage Floyds reputation. And if Cortez was so fucking impeccable, then why did OScar and around 84m other people in attendance feel the need to stand up and give out when he took the point off???

:dunno:

[Trplsec]

Hey...all fighters have excuses. Hearns had his massage.

Hatton hasn't really done anything to damage Floyds reputation. And if Cortez was so fucking impeccable, then why did OScar and around 84m other people in attendance feel the need to stand up and give out when he took the point off???

:dunno:


There's a huge difference between questioning the point deduction and blaming Cortez for Hatton getting knocked out.

As I said, the more time that passes, the more that line between reality and what fans want to remember becomes thinner.

I'll say it again, it was Hatton that tired from his own mauling tactics. Had Cortez been more allowing of Hatton's methods, the fight would simply have ended earlier.

The much better fighter won. Why is that so difficult to accept?

[Ugotabe Kidding]

There's a huge difference between questioning the point deduction and blaming Cortez for Hatton getting knocked out.

As I said, the more time that passes, the more that line between reality and what fans want to remember becomes thinner.

I'll say it again, it was Hatton that tired from his own mauling tactics. Had Cortez been more allowing of Hatton's methods, the fight would simply have ended earlier.

The much better fighter won. Why is that so difficult to accept?

In fact I haven't heard anybody say otherwise. Another funny phenomenom is that if you criticize the ref at all, it is seen as making excuses for the loss.

Eddie Cotton reffed Lewis-Tyson very poorly, but it didn't change the outcome. Also here Cortez did weak job letting Floyd get away with his clinching defense, but it didn't change the outcome

[Orthodox Crusader]

There's a huge difference between questioning the point deduction and blaming Cortez for Hatton getting knocked out.

As I said, the more time that passes, the more that line between reality and what fans want to remember becomes thinner.

I'll say it again, it was Hatton that tired from his own mauling tactics. Had Cortez been more allowing of Hatton's methods, the fight would simply have ended earlier.

The much better fighter won. Why is that so difficult to accept?


It isn't...in fact I went so far as to say Mayweather fought a great fight. But that does not subtract in the least from the fact that Cortez acted the prick. Like I said, I know he has a sick daughter but there are other ways to keep oneself in a job.

[KaukipRrr]

:doh: I should have just posted that one sentence in bold, because that's what this thread was supposed to be about, not making excuses up for the repugnant british ring-troll... but since there's 98% more article, Fraud groupies have naturally concerntrated elsewhere and have overlapped the point with irrelevant jerbal. Anyway, whatever the outcome, if your a real boxing fan, the fight against that shoulder-roll shit should continue vigorously :nono: .

[meetthefeebles]

Hatton is not a bitch. Hatton attacked with everything he had. Mayweather is just an all time great fighter.

As to your other point regarding Hatton suddenly being a bum, I don't think that's true either. Personally I don't let time and speculation dull the luster of the big win against Tszyu. Likewise, beating up Maussa, fighting hard to beat Collazo, and crushing an always-tough Castillo are all worthy accomplishments.

However, I think Hatton hit the nail on the head. He needs to comeback and get some wins at 140 in order to not have his legacy be forever tarnished by being the guy that was exposed when he finally met Mayweather.

Agreed 100%- Excellent Post :clap:

[Erratic]

:crafty: Here's a hypothetical,...........If Hatton's defence to avoid further punches when he were hurt, was to run to the corner, hold the ropes and face the crowd with his back turned to Fraud for a breather, and poor Floyd stands behind him confused, and tentatively jabs him to the back, which Cortez pulls up and penalizes immediately, forcing Fraud to just stand behind him, doing nothing, waiting, hoping, for him to turn back around, I think by the rounds end this board would be foaming from the mouth with rage wouldn't ya say? :crafty: . Then in the very next round Hatton elbows Fraud above his right eye, and it starts pissing out blood, Hatton subsequently knocks him out cold with a left hook on Fraud's blindside,... :crafty: Afterwards, do you think this forum would politely mutter, that "fare is fare, all fighters foul"...?...or do you think perhaps the messaegboard would BURN HARD!!!!!!!........ There's no 'grey area' about a foul :nono: that hypothetical was blown up out of proportion ofcourse, but the basic rules broken in that description are the rules Fraud breaks all the time, being elusive about fouling, does not make it legal, no matter how many other fighters you cite, or the severity of each individual foul, you know it's wrong :nono: , and what's truelly pathetic about Fraud, is that he RELIES on these particular tactics to avoid getting hit, it is a FUNDAMENTAL part of his boxing and it gets worse Erratic :doh: instead of people saying, "He's a fucken cheat, what he does is illegal, and the referees are not pulling him up for it!" like they did for John Ruiz,....... ......................we hear that perhaps....."Floyd's got the best defence in boxing history bar no-one" . http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif it's enough to make one sick.

Yes I sound like a broken record, but I realise that's because instead of you proving that elbows and backtwisting is LEGAL, and Floyd doesn't rely on them heavily in order to avoid punches and subsequently win, you are trying to expand what Fraud does, (foul) across other examples to justify that it shouldn't be heavily condemned, but accepted?.

I never said forearms and elbows are legal. You asked earlier what I fought of Floyd's elbows and forearms, and I told you, I just think of it as another fighter bending the rules to his advantage.

It's just like that unlike you, I don't write essays non-stop about the fouls of fighters (that I don't like).

Otherwise, you'd be seeing me rant about Joel Casamayor and Evander Holyfield all the time like you do with Floyd.

It's accepting the fact that boxers commit illegal tactics. I've accepted it that fighters that I like (and dislike) bend the rules. I don't think too much of it as long as it's not something extreme such steroids, excessive rabbit punching (it helps that I just watched Benn-McClellan the other day), glove tampering, etc...You apparently are bothered that Floyd elbows and forearms and keeps winning, or just want to get a rise out of people, so you sound like a broken record.

[mikE]

if hatton gets a few impressive wins a rematch would certainly become viable.
Exactly.I thought Hatton performed pretty well and there were several rounds he could have gotten the nod in. He moves back in the pack for a shot at Floyd because of the loss, but he's a big name and he'll be able to get right back in the mix if he fights some of the fighters ahead of him in line and beats them. Hell, if he beat Cotto, he'd might be right back in the front of the line.

[Pascals Wager]

The better fighter won. No need 4 rematch
Cortez was crap.
Something should be done about PBF turning his back when under pressure

[Rainmaker]

Mayweather got a point deducted against Castillo for using the elbow/forearm.

How long did it take Holyfield to get a point deducted for his fouls? Lewis for his fouls?

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxingchronicle/images2_rahmanswell.jpg
How about Ruiz?

[LOK]

I wouldn't say Hatton is a bum.. he is on a level that shows he is no "bum"

but he is such a bitch.. you have to admit that.. I mean to bitch now and cry over spilled milk... what a bitch.. it just shows he really has no class

[KaukipRrr]

I never said forearms and elbows are legal. You asked earlier what I fought of Floyd's elbows and forearms, and I told you, I just think of it as another fighter bending the rules to his advantage.

It's just like that unlike you, I don't write essays non-stop about the fouls of fighters (that I don't like).

Otherwise, you'd be seeing me rant about Joel Casamayor and Evander Holyfield all the time like you do with Floyd.

It's accepting the fact that boxers commit illegal tactics. I've accepted it that fighters that I like (and dislike) bend the rules. I don't think too much of it as long as it's not something extreme such steroids, excessive rabbit punching (it helps that I just watched Benn-McClellan the other day), glove tampering, etc...You apparently are bothered that Floyd elbows and forearms and keeps winning, or just want to get a rise out of people, so you sound like a broken record.

:nono: Uh!,...it is not to get a rise out of people, it is genuinely bothering me, and giving me the energy to write essays, the DIFFERENCE IS,.....the fact that what IS illegal, is loved and admired by the entire boxing community including Fightbeat, and freely flows onwards completely exonerated, the backtwisting shit I'm mainly talking about, if Holyfield's continuous lead headbutts were dubbed "Awesome goring offense, the best offense in the game bar no-one infact!" then you would truelly have one similar reference to broaden beloved felonous impliments and soften the harsh truth of Fraud's entire defensive system,...but his backtwisting foul, has eleviated him to "defensive god", so should breaking the rules warrant these glorious monikers and be encouraged in order for him to suceed, preserving that all too crucial '0' ?...

Would you feel personal anguish if Fraud was disqualified for continuously turning his back against fighters who pressure him?....would you protest?..:dunno: ....I definitely know American boxing fans and leading websites would express thier outrage, and call for the "rogue" referee to be cancelled indefinitely,....:dunno: just for enforcing the rules and doing his job mind you?.. ....:nono:

[LOK]

:nono: Uh!,...it is not to get a rise out of people, it is genuinely bothering me, and giving me the energy to write essays, the DIFFERENCE IS,.....the fact that what IS illegal, is loved and admired by the entire boxing community including Fightbeat, and freely flows onwards completely exonerated, the backtwisting shit I'm mainly talking about, if Holyfield's continuous lead headbutts were dubbed "Awesome goring offense, the best offense in the game bar no-one infact!" then you would truelly have one similar reference to broaden beloved felonous impliments and soften the harsh truth of Fraud's entire defensive system,...but his backtwisting foul, has eleviated him to "defensive god", so should breaking the rules warrant these glorious monikers and be encouraged in order for him to suceed, preserving that all too crucial '0' ?...

Would you feel personal anguish if Fraud was disqualified for continuously turning his back against fighters who pressure him?....would you protest?..:dunno: ....I definitely know American boxing fans and leading websites would express thier outrage, and call for the "rogue" referee to be cancelled indefinitely,....:dunno: just for enforcing the rules and doing his job mind you?.. ....:nono:

What excatly is it that bothers you?

that he hides his chin with his shoulder?

is it the forearms pushes to the neck? a LOT of fighters do that..

what is it?

[Orthodox Crusader]

I wouldn't say Hatton is a bum.. he is on a level that shows he is no "bum"

but he is such a bitch.. you have to admit that.. I mean to bitch now and cry over spilled milk... what a bitch.. it just shows he really has no class


You know whats a bitch~? Karma. Thats why you needed that colostomy bag and regular testosterone injections to calm your rocketing estrogen levels. You can't even take a shit unassisted by modern technology. Who the fuck ever said you could talk about MEN??

[LOK]

You know whats a bitch~? Karma. Thats why you needed that colostomy bag and regular testosterone injections to calm your rocketing estrogen levels. You can't even take a shit unassisted by modern technology. Who the fuck ever said you could talk about MEN??


ooooooooooookay :laughing: :dunno:

I don't know WTF you are even talking about :lol: I needed a Colostomy bag?:laughing:

[Donnybrook]

Ricky Hatton Wants Floyd Mayweather Rematch

By Mark Vester

Ricky Hatton wants to avenge the only loss of his career, a tenth-round knockout suffered at the hands of Floyd Mayweather Jr. last December in Las Vegas. Hatton is now back in the gym and starting to do some light training while his team is making plans to finalize his return, which is still holding strong for the tentative date of May 24 in Manchester.

He doesn't want to become like his countryman, Prince Naseem Hamed, who walked away from the sport after suffering the first and only of his pro career. Hatton tells The Manchester Times that he wants to be remembered for something more.

“I don't want my last fight to be that fight, me on my back getting counted out to my first defeat. What sort of a champion would I be if I didn't come back and try and prove myself? Naseem Hamed's situation is a shame; he's one of the best fighters we've ever had, but unfortunately because of the way he bowed out, he's going to be remembered for his defeat rather than all the success that went before. I don't want to go down that same route," Hatton said.

“All the greatest fighters - [Rocky] Marciano being the exception - have lost and you become a good champion by coming back from adversity. If I come back stronger, people will hold me in even higher regard.” I'm not going to say how many more fights because I don't know. But there are things I still want to do: I'd like to top the bill at Madison Square Gardens, I'd like to fight in the City of Manchester Stadium. And I'd like another go at Floyd.”

The rematch with Floyd is something he wants to do before retiring. He doesn't feel that he was given a fair fight from referee Joe Cortez.

"There's one or two things I want to do and one of those is to prove people wrong. If you're a man, that's what you do. So I'd like to fight Floyd again; last time, I don't think I was given a fair crack of the whip. I've had one of the longest unbeaten reigns in the sport so whatever I was doing, I was doing right. I've always done the same thing and I'll carry on doing so.”

“I'd rather give credit to Floyd than blame the referee,” he said. “But this is not just me feeling sorry for myself and finding something to complain about. I have a lot of respect for Mr Cortez. Maybe he just had an off-night. And I was a little bit over-keen, over-eager and I made the cardinal sin of losing my composure. But I thought I could have won the fight, yet I started having arguments mid-round with the referee. I'd never done that in 43 fights. Floyd would be turning his back and I'd be saying: ‘Where do you want me to hit him when he's doing that?' It got to the point where I thought, ‘I'm scared of hitting him in case I get warned'.

Most experts didn’t give Hatton much of a chance in December, and they don’t give him much of a chance in a rematch. Hatton says Collazo and Phillips were tougher fights.

“I've honestly had tougher fights. Like any great champion, Floyd found the right punches at the right time. When I fought Vince Phillips and Luis Collazo, I wasn't in the best shape afterwards, I was sore and really tired. Even after being knocked out by Floyd, I don't think it was a physically demanding fight; I'd felt worse after six-rounders."

---------------------------

I'm not a Hatton fan and never have been, nor will be, I dislike the repugnant troll, and think he's overrated these days, however the print in bold needs to be fucking amplified. Good call :eeeek: :bears: .

I'm not a Floyd "groupie."

But Hatton's rationale is ridiculous - and inaccurate.

There is no shame in clearly losing to one of the top PxPers of our generation in a fun, action-filled fight (albeit one-sided) at a higher weight class.

Go back to 140 and move on.

Peace.

[LOK]

I'm not a Floyd "groupie."

But Hatton's rationale is ridiculous - and inaccurate.

There is no shame in clearly losing to one of the top PxPers of our generation in a fun, action-filled fight (albeit one-sided) at a higher weight class.

Go back to 140 and move on.

Peace.

:bears:

[Ugotabe Kidding]

I'm not a Floyd "groupie."

But Hatton's rationale is ridiculous - and inaccurate.

There is no shame in clearly losing to one of the top PxPers of our generation in a fun, action-filled fight (albeit one-sided) at a higher weight class.

Go back to 140 and move on.

Peace.

As I said, the day a fighter admits that he can't beat somebody is the day the fighter is ready to retire. The sport demands an endless confidence, even though it was based on some ridiculous claims.