UFC 81

[ArturoGatti]

I think Lesnar will owerpower Mir, and Sylvia will knock Noguiera out.

I hope I'm wrong, though.

[Beyond the Grave]

I think Lesnar will owerpower Mir, and Sylvia will knock Noguiera out.

I hope I'm wrong, though.


LOL I hate to say it but those are the results I see happening....I hope,for the betterment of MMA that Sylvia doesn't win....but signs are pointing that he will IMO:doh:

[REEDsART]

It would B GREAT for the Sport if Brock Lesnar Wins...But If he's N ANY Way a FARCE, Frank Mir will BEAT him...

It's the PERFECT "Prove Yourself" Matchup for Lesnar...

REED Won't B Ordering this PPV but Hopefully Somebody Does Round by Round....


REED:cool:

[Buddy Rydell]

I won't be doing a round-by-round, but I will be watching the fights. Maybe I could give a shout out between fights to say what happened.

[Beyond the Grave]

It would B GREAT for the Sport if Brock Lesnar Wins...But If he's N ANY Way a FARCE, Frank Mir will BEAT him...

It's the PERFECT "Prove Yourself" Matchup for Lesnar...

REED Won't B Ordering this PPV but Hopefully Somebody Does Round by Round....


REED:cool:

People give lesnar shit for being a Pro Wrestler(Not a damn thing wrong with that.I"m a fan of it) but he was THEE best college wrestler in the country at the time so he does have credibility.I think there throwing him to the wolves though even if Mir ain't half the fighter he used to be.

[Buddy Rydell]

THEE means you in archaic English. Not THE. :lol:

[Beyond the Grave]

THEE means you in archaic English. Not THE. :lol:
Its a forum,who cares.Are you doing play by play still? I'll probly chip in from time to time.:dunno:

[Beyond the Grave]

LOL at Lesnar calling out Sylvia like that :lol: He's putting his Pro Wrestling mic skills to use.:clap:

[Buddy Rydell]

9 minutes according to Viewerschoice.

[Buddy Rydell]

Its a forum,who cares.Are you doing play by play still? I'll probly chip in from time to time.:dunno:

Maybe fight by fight.

[Buddy Rydell]

I wonder how much money valdosta has bet tonight. :lol:

[Beyond the Grave]

Dana and Joe be spinning shit.

[Buddy Rydell]

Whoa, something blew there bigtime. WTF happened? They screwed it up and you actually heard Rogan apologize on air! :eeeek: :lol:

[atomicdOGg34]

what?

[Buddy Rydell]

First up, Tyson Griffin and Gleison Tibau

[Buddy Rydell]

what?

The screen froze. They were introducing the wrong guys! :laughing: :lol:

[Beyond the Grave]

Whoa, something blew there bigtime. WTF happened? They screwed it up and you actually heard Rogan apologize on air! :eeeek: :lol:

That what weird,wonder what happened?

[atomicdOGg34]

The screen froze. They were introducing the wrong guys! :laughing: :lol:

LMAO :laughing:

[Beyond the Grave]

The screen froze. They were introducing the wrong guys! :laughing: :lol:

wooow!!

[Buddy Rydell]

Griffin and Tibau:
Tibau is a big lightweight. He's 5ft10 and Griffin is 5ft6.

They meet in the centre of the ring. :lol:

Rd1: Griffin firing leg kicks and trying to land rights. Gleison clinching and Tyson landing a bunch of good stand up including a thrust kick. Gleison says "Fuck this" and gets a big takedown. Tyson eludes a crucifix and almost gets a takedown but Gleison reverses it.

[Beyond the Grave]

fun fight so far.

[ArturoGatti]

griffin wins the stand up with leg kicks and some nice right hands, and a good elbow from the cage. Tibau gets two takedowns in the last minute and a half.

10-9 Griffin. Good round.

[ArturoGatti]

Griffin and Tibau:
Tibau is a big lightweight. He's 5ft10 and Griffin is 5ft6.

They meet in the centre of the ring. :lol:

Rd1: Griffin firing leg kicks and trying to land rights. Gleison clinching and Tyson landing a bunch of good stand up including a thrust kick. Gleison says "Fuck this" and gets a big takedown. Tyson eludes a crucifix and almost gets a takedown but Gleison reverses it.octagon. :nono:

[Buddy Rydell]

Rd2:

Gleison neutralizing Tyson's clinch. A few exchanges and then Tibau takes him down again. Gtriffin wobbles Gleison with a right. Tyson's legkicks are starting to sting Gleison. Griffin dominating on their feet. Griffin gets taken down again and then he springs back up.

[ArturoGatti]

They clinch for the first minute, then they trade punches. Tibau scores anothe rtakedown, but Tyson stands back up. Griffin goes back to controling the stand up with right hands. Tibau gets another takedown, but Griffin gets right back up again.

10-9 Griffin.

[ArturoGatti]

my feed is a bit late I guess.

[Beyond the Grave]

Joe Rogan said the name Bas Rutton,he is not a UFC employee.Rogan will get a tongue lashing after the show:lol:

[ArturoGatti]

Another takedown from Tibau. and this time he is able to keep it on the ground for a while, but Griffin scrambles out. Griffin lands a good body shot, another takedown, and another cramble by Griffin. Connecting with body punches again. Clinch. Foot stomps from Griffin. Griffin lands a right before the bell.

10-9 Tibau.

29-28 for Griffin.

[Buddy Rydell]

Rd3:
Tyson eats a big left hand and runs right in with a hard legkick. Gleison lands the takedown again, no problem. Gleison gets another takedown and then Tyson springs back up again. Tyson doing more in the standup. Gleison looked relly defensive. Tyson wanted it more and threw more while also committing more.

Judges all see it 30-27 for Tyson Griffin. Guess thoe takedowns didn't offset Gleison's reluctance on his feet.

[ArturoGatti]

Tibau looks a bit like Arturo Gatti.

[Beyond the Grave]

What are they booing about.Griffen won the fight clearly:rolleyes:

[ArturoGatti]

What are they booing about.Griffen won the fight clearly:rolleyes:It's the UFC.

[Beyond the Grave]

Those Pride belts are worthless now,hell Rampage said he still didn't get his Pride belt yet lol

[ArturoGatti]

Almeida makes quick work of Yundt with an awesome submission.

[Buddy Rydell]

Ricardo Almeida and Rob Yundt:

LOL. Looks like Bruce Buffer just got hit in the head with the videocamera as Yundt came jogging into the ring! :lol:

Almeida coming into the lamest music I've ever heard at a UFC ( a little bit country and a lot retarded). It's almost as bad as Peter McNeeley's music when he went in to fight Tyson, and that music sounded like a retard was singing it.

Rd1:
Ricardo "Bigdog" Almeida. Yundt gets taken down with a really lazy looking chute attempt. Yundt gets choked out after trying to flip his way out of it. Didn't look like a good guillotine, but Almeida held that stuff nicely even while getting flipped onto the back of his head.

A guillotine with an arm in. Good job.

[Buddy Rydell]

Nate Marquardt and Jeremy Horn up next.

[Beyond the Grave]

Jermey Horns shot,Marquardt should have no problem with him.

[Buddy Rydell]

Rd1:
Horn always looks like he has a soft tummy. One of the few guys who makes Chuck look like he has ripped abs. Jeremy looks like a redneck nerd, but if he gets ahold of you, he'll rip something apart. :lol:

They lock up and they neutralize the thai knees. Marquardt takes him down and Horn pulls guard. Horn EATING BOMBS. Marquardt throwing the lumber. They stand up. Jeremy tiws a throw and loses top position. Big elbow gels Horn's legs. Horn pulls guard and lands a couple of flailing kicks. Almost cinches an omoplata and then a gogoplata.

Horn reverses. Sweeps...and the round ends.

[ArturoGatti]

Jermey Horns shot,Marquardt should have no problem with him.too bad Horn is so hard to finish. This one is probably going the full 3.

[Buddy Rydell]

Rd2:
Marquardt misses a kick and Horn gets top position. JESUS, FAST standing guillotine and Horn is subbed for the first time in ages. I thought his neck broke it was so tight.

[Buddy Rydell]

Nope, it's over.

[ArturoGatti]

Marquardt is solid.

[Beyond the Grave]

too bad Horn is so hard to finish. This one is probably going the full 3.


If horn was in his prime it would go the full distance but..wait Horn got choked out gameover

[Beyond the Grave]

Brock Lesnars leading the votes :lol: Show's what kind of fans watch the UFC

[ArturoGatti]

Brock Lesnars leading the votes :lol: Show's what kind of fans watch the UFCwell, didn't YOU pick him, as well? :lol:

Heath vs. Bosch from the underground is coming up.

[ArturoGatti]

* undercard.

[ArturoGatti]

why do they show the entrances when showing undercard fights. It just takes up time.

[Beyond the Grave]

well, didn't YOU pick him, as well? :lol:

Heath vs. Bosch from the underground is coming up.

I picked Sylvia to beat Nogiera.I should of edited that :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

David Heath and Tim Boetsch:
Rd1:
Boetsch comes out to Anvil of Crom, the Conan theme. Looks a bit soft in the gut. Heath looks even softer. LOL

Tim The Barbarian. LMAO. Herb Dean's stomach looks tighter.

Boetsch throws a spinning backfist that misses by 6ft. Boetsch thrust kicks and slaps Heath back. Heath spits a loogie out and eats a Boetsch right hand. Heath keeps getting thrustkicked to the gut. Both guys are gunshy, and then Heath gets dropped. Boetsch lands three consecutive knees.

Boetsch threw Heath on his head. FACEFIRST. Then he threw a bunch of really small shitty punches, but Heath was already almost completely out from LANDING ON HIS FACE!!!! LMFAO.

Tim the Barbarian gets the win on 10 days notice. :lol:

[ArturoGatti]

lol, he just threw him like a rag doll.

[Beyond the Grave]

That throw was brutal.

[Buddy Rydell]

Lesnar vs Mir coming up.

[ArturoGatti]

I hope the barbarian fights Houston Alexander next. That would be bananas.

[Beyond the Grave]

Mir looked in the best shape I've seen him in a long time at the weigh in.

[Beyond the Grave]

That drunk racist Stone Cold Steve Austin in the crowd.damn alot pro wrestlers in the crowd tonight.

[Buddy Rydell]

Mir-Lesnar

Frank Mir coming out first. WTF? Former champ coming out first against a first-timer? That's fucked up.

Rd1:
Lesnar looks a bit nervous. He's moving around a fair bit. Undertake and Angle are there as is Steve Austin. Sable is Brock's wife. Lesnar takes him down right away. Lesnar gets a point deducted right away for hittingthe back of the head. Mir dropped hard, and MIR MAKES LESNAR TAP FROM A KNEEBAR!!!!

[Beyond the Grave]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!







:rolleyes:

[Buddy Rydell]

Damn, Brock was pounding him and it looked like Mir was in deep deep shit and then Brock gets submitted. Mir stayed calm and weathered the storm.

[Beyond the Grave]

Damn, Brock was pounding him and it looked like Mir was in deep deep shit and then Brock gets submitted. Mir stayed calm and weathered the storm.

HOLY SHIT!!!:rolleyes:

[ArturoGatti]

lmfao. hilarious fight.

[Buddy Rydell]

HOLY SHIT!!!:rolleyes:

Don't be a bitch, dude. Lesnar did his best and fought as well as he could. He deserves credit for dropping, cutting and making a former UFC champ turtle.

[ArturoGatti]

Brock is a good sport. Big ups to him. :bears:

[Beyond the Grave]

Don't be a bitch, dude. Lesnar did his best and fought as well as he could. He deserves credit for dropping, cutting and making a former UFC champ turtle.

I just don't want anyone to get carried away by this .

[Buddy Rydell]

5 round title fight coming up.

[Beyond the Grave]

Brock is a good sport. Big ups to him. :bears:


Yep,back to the drawing board though.I think he'll progress,he's a hard worker and I think he's soaked in alot considering he hasn't been in the game that long.

[Beyond the Grave]

5 round title fight coming up.

I think Tim will win but I really rooting for NOG though

[Beyond the Grave]

Whats wrong with NOGS eye?

[Buddy Rydell]

Lesnar got caught up in it and should have stuck to making Mir get up and work those weakened legs. Lesnar was actually doing a good job of pressuring, and his movement was really good...but he got caught.

Minotauro coming out first!

[ArturoGatti]

I think Sherdog is going to explode. They had over 2000 people there for Mir/Lesnar rbr. :laughing:

[Beyond the Grave]

I think Sherdog is going to explode. They had over 2000 people there for Mir/Lesnar rbr. :laughing:


I hate that place

[Buddy Rydell]

Big Nog's taken a lot of punishments over the years.

Rogan needs to learn to pronounce durable. It sounded like he called Sylvia ADORABLE. :lol: :lol:

[Beyond the Grave]

All joking aside,Sylvia looks in awesome shape :eeeek:..........for him:dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

Rd1:
Tim is hammering Big Nog. Dropped him twice and almost stopped him. Big Nog takes him down at the bell. :eek:

[Beyond the Grave]

Rd1:
Tim is hammering Big Nog. Dropped him twice and almost stopped him. Big Nog takes him down at the bell. :eek:

That has to be a confidence boost for Nog at the end we'll see how this play out.

[Buddy Rydell]

Rd2:
Lots of mauling and brawling. Tim rattles him many times. Big Nog drive hard for the takedown. Sylvia fights it off and keeps hammering him with power jabs. Tim is doing a good job.

[Buddy Rydell]

Rd3:
Big Nog gets a sweep, and instant guillotine, BANG...it's over!

[ArturoGatti]

MAN, THAT WAS PURE CLASS.

Nice talking with you BR and BTG.

[mikE]

From the description, it sounds like Lesnar did exactly as well as he would have without any mma training.

As I watched his All Access show, I was surprised at how much they focused on his conditioning and physicality and how much they ignored striking and bjj.

Did Lesnar show any more than Sapp, Giant, Kimo, that big african guy with one name?

[Azazel]

great job Nog, kind of sad because I started to became a huge Sylvia fan, but, and I'm quite ashamed of myself, the UFC-Pride idiocy made me root for a Nog win

[Beyond the Grave]

This reminds me of his fight with cro cop. beautiful sweep by Big Nog just text book Nogeira down the stretch,ending it with a guillotine choke.

:bears::bears::bears:

[Buddy Rydell]

Nog's face just got put through a meat grinder. He can't see out of his right eye.

[Buddy Rydell]

Chris Lytle against Kyle Bradley coming up.

[ArturoGatti]

Nog's face just got put through a meat grinder. He can't see out of his right eye.HE'S A CLASS ACT, THOUGH. Great sportsman.

Showing the Lytle fight next. :bears:

[Buddy Rydell]

Good talking with you, Gatti. :clap:

[ArturoGatti]

is it just me or did half the crowd leave after the Mir fight?

[ArturoGatti]

Good talking with you, Gatti. :clap::blobbox:

[Beyond the Grave]

Nog's face just got put through a meat grinder. He can't see out of his right eye.

It looked the same against Cro Cop.IF your going to beat Big Nog you got a be on him the entire fight and that's hard to do,his recovery is amazing.

[Beyond the Grave]

is it just me or did half the crowd leave after the Mir fight?
They were never fans to begin with,this is Vegas so most of the people who show up are just people on vacation with nothing better to do.


EDIT:And nice rappin with you too homey



WAAAAR NOGEIRA

[Buddy Rydell]

Lytle vs Bradley Rd1:
Lytle feeds it to Bradley. Yves Lavigne steps in, and Bradley pulls guard on Yves. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ArturoGatti]

man, Lytle threw some bombs. One of my favourite fighters.

[ArturoGatti]

Lytle vs Bradley Rd1:
Lytle feeds it to Bradley. Yves Lavigne steps in, and Bradley pulls guard on Yves. :lol: :lol: :lol::lol:

good way of putting it.

[Azazel]

apart from it's bjj, Nogueira is utterly ordinary, but boy is he a tough mf.

[ArturoGatti]

apart from it's bjj, Nogueira is utterly ordinary, but boy is he a tough mf.His stand up is not very good, he stands so straight up, no wonder he gets knocked down and hurt so often. He would get destroyed by any journeyman boxer (in boxing). But his bjj is sick.

[Azazel]

His stand up is not very good, he stands so straight up, no wonder he gets knocked down and hurt so often. He would get destroyed by any journeyman boxer (in boxing). But his bjj is sick.
the weird thing is that he's supposed to train like a freak in boxing, and indeed his techinique is quite good, he just got no talent for it, easy to hit, unalble to pull the trigger, soft puncher, doesn't move his head,... but what a fucking chin and heart.

[Buddy Rydell]

Emerson vs. Nakamura
Rd1:
Emerson throwing tons of strikes and then he eats a big knee which sends him to the canvas. I still think Emerson won the round.

Rd2:
Emerson throws and lands a ton, and fails to hurt this guy. Emerson apparently can't hit too hard. Actually, scratch that. Nakamura may have a really good chin but he has a bad cut under his right eye and it's also swelling a lot.

Rd3:
Lots of sloppy missing. Kinda sleepy actually. Emerson might finally have a notch in the win category.

Fucking funny. Emerson's nickname is "The Saint". The piece of shit jumped 2 guys with 7 of his loser friends, and his nickname is "The Saint". :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ArturoGatti]

:laughing:

[Buddy Rydell]

His stand up is not very good, he stands so straight up, no wonder he gets knocked down and hurt so often. He would get destroyed by any journeyman boxer (in boxing). But his bjj is sick.

Hard to believe that Big Nog's twin brother is on the Brazilian Olympic boxing team. Big Nog's standup is totally limp, but his BJJ is fantastic. That sweep was nice. :clap:

[Beyond the Grave]

Who cares how good or bad Big Nogs standup is,he is a great MMA fighter..period!!!

[Buddy Rydell]

And that's all she wrote, kids. Once again, Tim Sylvia snatches defeat from the jaws of victory! :clap: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

Who cares how good or bad Big Nogs standup is,he is a great MMA fighter..period!!!

Since his standup is pretty subpar for a champ, his opponents will definitely care. If they can keep it standing, then the wear and tear may get to him. Actually it makes for added drama, and since fans like drama, they will all care as well! :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

Gnight all!

[Beyond the Grave]

And that's all she wrote, kids. Once again, Tim Sylvia snatches defeat from the jaws of victory! :clap: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tim earned my respect tonight.He looked like the old Tim Sylvia,he was agressive and throwing punches which is something he hasn't done in a long time,plus he showed class before the fight and after the fight.

[valdosta]

Couture should come back and fight Nogeira. It's an easy fight for him.

[Beyond the Grave]

Since his standup is pretty subpar for a champ, his opponents will definitely care. If they can keep it standing, then the wear and tear may get to him. Actually it makes for added drama, and since fans like drama, they will all care as well! :dunno:

You make it sound soooo easy.He's only lost to 3 fighters his entire career (FEDOR,BARNETT,HENDO) so clearly its not as easy as you make it sound,just ask Timmy how easy it is:lol:

[Beyond the Grave]

Couture should come back and fight Nogeira. It's an easy fight for him.
Randy doesn't share your confidence,his hour glass is up and if he's going to lose its going to be to Fedor not to the guy who lost twice to fedor:lol:

[valdosta]

Randy doesn't share your confidence,his hour glass is up and if he's going to lose its going to be to Fedor not to the guy who lost twice to fedor:lol:

Like I said he should rush back to the UFC, easy fight. Nog can't take him down and can't beat him on the feet either. Couture would win and easily as long as he fought smartly which I think he would he's no dummy.

[Buddy Rydell]

Sylvia came out to that Hillbilly Deluxe song, and although he fought as well as he could, he looks painfully awkward. He did everything but punch Nog's face out the back of his head, and then one sweep from Nog and it's over with a guillotine choke while one arm was in.

Nog doesn't have much more than one dimension, but that dimension is pretty deep. :clap:

Randy would pound him though.

[Buddy Rydell]

You make it sound soooo easy.He's only lost to 3 fighters his entire career (FEDOR,BARNETT,HENDO) so clearly its not as easy as you make it sound,just ask Timmy how easy it is:lol:

Dude, if you can't see that Nog is on his last legs, you're at least three-quarters blind. He almost lost to Heath, his face is filled with scar tissue, and he's starting to gas. He lost twice to Fedor, the Hendo fight was close, and Barnett almost stopped him with that kneebar.

Not to mention that he almost got his head kicked off in his last fight by a guy who he had already beaten TWICE EASILY. Nog's on his way down, and it would be quite easy for Fedor or Randy to take the belt from him.:dunno:

[Beyond the Grave]

Like I said he should rush back to the UFC, easy fight. Nog can't take him down and can't beat him on the feet either. Couture would win and easily as long as he fought smartly which I think he would he's no dummy.

Most people would think your crazy but whatever floats your boat.Randy's done with the UFC.

[Beyond the Grave]

Dude, if you can't see that Nog is on his last legs, you're at least three-quarters blind. He almost lost to Heath, his face is filled with scar tissue, and he's starting to gas. He lost twice to Fedor, the Hendo fight was close, and Barnett almost stopped him with that kneebar.

Not to mention that he almost got his head kicked off in his last fight by a guy who he had already beaten TWICE EASILY. Nog's on his way down, and it would be quite easy for Fedor or Randy to take the belt from him.:dunno:


He dominated Heath Herring ,he just got too relaxed and got caught,big deal he recovered and dominated Herring again :lol: And there's no shame in losing to the fighters he lost too and it not something too use to prove your point

[Azazel]

I feel Nog would beat Couture and quite easilly too, Nog's on the way down, but he's better than Couture and The natural is bound to show his age really soon.BTW Nog lost to Rodriguez too it's just hidden as a W on his record

[Beyond the Grave]

Nog looks the same to me,he's always sucked against decent standup fighters.

[valdosta]

I feel Nog would beat Couture and quite easilly too,

How? Couture is the better striker and if he don't want the fight to go to the ground it's not going there.

[Beyond the Grave]

How? Couture is the better striker and if he don't want the fight to go to the ground it's not going there.

I don't know about all that.Its one of those things where it remains to be seen.

[valdosta]

I don't know about all that.Its one of those things where it remains to be seen.

Open your eyes, it's not even close.

[Beyond the Grave]

Open your eyes, it's not even close.


Oh, there opened and your entitled to your opinion but I'm saying its one of this thing that might not turn out as you envision.Randy's standup looked good against a Sylvia with a damaged back ,so I'll just take the wait and see approach on that one.

[Azazel]

How? Couture is the better striker and if he don't want the fight to go to the ground it's not going there.
I think Couture is definitively the sneakier and heavier puncher of the two, but Nog got better boxing skills ( Couture is very lacking in that area, he does good ''dirty boxing'' but his textbook skills are awfull ) and he's far more relax, imo, he could easilly outbox the smaller Couture and survived the occasionnal bomb.

[valdosta]

Oh, there opened and your entitled to your opinion but I'm saying its one of this thing that might not turn out as you envision.Randy's standup looked good against a Sylvia with a damaged back ,so I'll just take the wait and see approach on that one.

Excuses don't matter. Couture boxed the shit out of Sylvia. Beat his ass. Anyone pay attention to defense because Nog don't have any. It's ridiculous to rely on your jaw as much as he does. You eventually fight the wrong guy and that don't work out so well. Nog is a great,great fighter but a wrestler with good boxing is the perfect person to beat him (besides Fedor of course).

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

The UFC champ got hios ass whipped over and over by Fedor. Tim Sylvia and Dana should stop trashing Fedor now.

[valdosta]

interim champ

Fedor's a bitch for fighting chump after chump these days.

[Beyond the Grave]

Excuses don't matter. Couture boxed the shit out of Sylvia. Beat his ass. Anyone pay attention to defense because Nog don't have any. It's ridiculous to rely on your jaw as much as he does. You eventually fight the wrong guy and that don't work out so well. Nog is a great,great fighter but a wrestler with good boxing is the perfect person to beat him (besides Fedor of course).

It does when it serves your argument like Chuck being past it is the reason why he lost to Jardine:lol:.........Anyway,In this case it does matter.Sylvia had 3 bad disc in his back.Coutures standup is not all that.

[valdosta]

It does when it serves your argument like Chuck being past it is the reason why he lost to Jardine:lol:.........Anyway,In this case it does matter.Sylvia had 3 bad disc in his back.Coutures standup is not all that.

Here's a little information about bad backs, they don't exactly go away. If your back is fucked it will never go back to where it was. Syvia got outboxed and got his ass kicked against Couture, quite a bit different than what happened tonight. Couture is all around better on the feet than punching bag Nog. that poor guy is going to be sipping food through a straw after all is said and done.

[Beyond the Grave]

Here's a little information about bad backs, they don't exactly go away. If your back is fucked it will never go back to where it was. Syvia got outboxed and got his ass kicked against Couture, quite a bit different than what happened tonight. Couture is all around better on the feet than punching bag Nog. that poor guy is going to be sipping food through a straw after all is said and done.
It went away tonight .He performed better than he did against Couture.:clap:

But.It doesn't matter, they'll never fight anyway so this talk is pointless.Randy's going out with a bang later this year.

[Beyond the Grave]

interim champ

Fedor's a bitch for fighting chump after chump these days.

He can fight whoever he wants in any promotion he wants,he's a free agent he's not hiding behind anything.Its the fighter under the UFC slave contract that don't have that option .It seem that its the UFC fighters that are being protected :lol:

[ArturoGatti]

How? Couture is the better striker and if he don't want the fight to go to the ground it's not going there.There is no way that Couture vs. Noguiera would be 25 minutes of stand up. It would hit the ground eventually.

[ArturoGatti]

ufc 81 had several very memorable moments.

The whole Mir/Lesnar spectacle, the main event, the guy pulling guard on the ref, "the throw", the awesome gullotine submission from that Brazilian guy, and Robert Emerson announced as "The Saint".

[ArturoGatti]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9055/heathbomy5.gif

[ArturoGatti]

from sherdog:

With a clear head, Nogueira slowed the pace of the fight in the second round and began out-boxing Sylvia with crafty footwork and pesky left jabs. His many takedown attempts were stuffed, but that didn't matter because the Brazilian, fighting out of Rio De Janeiro in a gym that houses the likes of Anderson Silva (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=1356), was putting on a virtual boxing clinic


wow. :rolleyes:

[valdosta]

It went away tonight .He performed better than he did against Couture.:clap:



No it didn't he just fought an inferior fighter to Couture.

[valdosta]

There is no way that Couture vs. Noguiera would be 25 minutes of stand up. It would hit the ground eventually.

Only if Couture wanted it to.

[valdosta]

He can fight whoever he wants in any promotion he wants,he's a free agent he's not hiding behind anything.Its the fighter under the UFC slave contract that don't have that option .It seem that its the UFC fighters that are being protected :lol:

The UFC does the opposite of protect fighters. DO you pay attention to this sport at all? :notallthere: Fedor isn't interested in fight real competition whether it's in the UFC or not. it's pathetic. It would be like Floyd Mayweather fighting Robert Frankel.

[Beyond the Grave]

No it didn't he just fought an inferior fighter to Couture.


It can also mean Couture fought a injured fighter it can go both ways

[Beyond the Grave]

The UFC does the opposite of protect fighters. DO you pay attention to this sport at all? :notallthere: Fedor isn't interested in fight real competition whether it's in the UFC or not. it's pathetic. It would be like Floyd Mayweather fighting Robert Frankel.


If that's the case then the Randy vs Fedor fight would of been made a long time ago.Fedor has the freedom to fight where and who he wants, a UFC fighter doesn't have that option which is why Randy left.The UFC and there slave contract is why they couldn't keep Randy or sign Fedor

[Beyond the Grave]

Only if Couture wanted it to.

:lol:

[Beyond the Grave]

Its funny that 3 out of the 5 champions in the UFC made there name in Pride .Dana didn't look to thrilled putting the belt around Nogeira's waist:lol:

[ArturoGatti]

Its funny that 3 out of the 5 champions in the UFC made there name in Pride .Dana didn't look to thrilled putting the belt around Nogeira's waist:lol:PLEASE, Dan Henderson made his name in UFC before PRIDE, so should we consider him a UFC fighter when he won belts in PRIDE?

[Bob N. Weave]

The UFC does the opposite of protect fighters. DO you pay attention to this sport at all? :notallthere: Fedor isn't interested in fight real competition whether it's in the UFC or not. it's pathetic. It would be like Floyd Mayweather fighting Robert Frankel.

Are you kidding me?? Dana White has stated multiple times that he will NOT co-promote any fight. He know damn well that if he doesn't sign Fedor, its a losing situation. If Fedor were to beat his heavyweight champion, that will throw any legitimacy to the UFC heavyweight division out the window. In case you haven't been paying attention... Fedor and Randy are going to fight later this year, they just have to wait till Randy is free of that cunt Dana Whites grasp. Fedor and Randy are gonna do it without that bitch.

[Beyond the Grave]

PLEASE, Dan Henderson made his name in UFC before PRIDE, so should we consider him a UFC fighter when he won belts in PRIDE?
He only fought on one UFC card(UFC 17 in some tournament I think) before going to Pride.Pride is the promotion that made him well known and its where he established himself as a top fighter and that's where most of his fights was fought.


EDIT:And Dan is not a UFC Champion right now.

[ArturoGatti]

the point is, this Pride vs. UFC thing is stupid, it's the fighters that matter, not the organisations.

This was the best part of the PPV:

http://i26.tinypic.com/10eooyd.gif

[Beyond the Grave]

the point is, this Pride vs. UFC thing is stupid, it's the fighters that matter, not the organisations.

This was the best part of the PPV:

http://i26.tinypic.com/10eooyd.gif



I won't argue with that:clap:

[Gh77]

Couture acts like he's beaten everyone there is to beat at heavyweight and the only one worthy to face him his Fedor. I know he wants to go out on his last fight with a bang, but he could beat Fedor and it still won't make him the greatest heavyweight of all times. He's way too inconsistent and I know he's done some great things, but I don't get why people think he's one of the greatest fighters ever. He's been owned badly at both heavyweight and lightheavy and a lot of his status is unjustified.

[Beyond the Grave]

Couture acts like he's beaten everyone there is to beat at heavyweight and the only one worthy to face him his Fedor. I know he wants to go out on his last fight with a bang, but he could beat Fedor and it still won't make him the greatest heavyweight of all times. He's way too inconsistent and I know he's done some great things, but I don't get why people think he's one of the greatest fighters ever. He's been owned badly at both heavyweight and lightheavy and a lot of his status is unjustified.


Preach :clap:

coutures a great fighter but I think he would be the underdog against Fedor and Big Nog.He beat an injured Sylvia and a green Gonzaga that got whipped by Werdum and now everybody thinks he's god now.

[valdosta]

It can also mean Couture fought a injured fighter it can go both ways

When is an MMA fighter 100%? Seriously if you want to use injury excuses you can use it for every single fight for these guys. Anyone wonder why Couture took the Sylvia fight when most thought he couldn't win? it's because he owned his ass in training to.

[valdosta]

If that's the case then the Randy vs Fedor fight would of been made a long time ago.Fedor has the freedom to fight where and who he wants, a UFC fighter doesn't have that option which is why Randy left.The UFC and there slave contract is why they couldn't keep Randy or sign Fedor

The UFC does what it should do considering they are the premier organization in the sport. They don't protect fighters they have under contract though. They all fight each other and sometimes multiple times. if they were trying to protect certain people guys like Nogjackson and Silva wouldn't have gotten title shots so quickly.

[valdosta]

:lol:

What? Is Nog a better wrestler than Couture now to? :laughing: