View Full Version : Is Antonio Tarver a Hall of Famer???
Even if he doesn't win another fight in his career? He's basically made his name off his colossal upset victory of Roy Jones. He is also the two time light heavyweight Champ, and has a decent resume.
I think he is a borderline HOF, maybe not first ballot, but he will get the vote basically on his 2 victories over Roy alone.
What y'all think?
Roll With The Punches
02-03-2008, 08:09 AM
nah
meetthefeebles
02-03-2008, 08:34 AM
Even if he doesn't win another fight in his career? He's basically made his name off his colossal upset victory of Roy Jones. He is also the two time light heavyweight Champ, and has a decent resume.
I think he is a borderline HOF, maybe not first ballot, but he will get the vote basically on his 2 victories over Roy alone.
What y'all think?
Not for me, but I suppose he might very well get in, as you say, on the basis that he was the first man to KO Jones Jr :dunno:
Maybe he can cement his place with his few remaining fights.
Orthodox Crusader
02-03-2008, 07:30 PM
No chance.
Look at the guys who came before him
Conn
Charles
Conteh
Franklin
Bob Foster
Stribling
Spinks
Fitzsimmons
Thats rarefied company, and getting beat by Jones, Hopkins and Harding is not the way to get into that line of company.
LATIN KING
02-04-2008, 12:28 AM
Of course not! There is no chance he gets in even if the standards have dropped.
Tarver was an ok champion nothing more. FAr from a hall of famer.
The Cuban Hawk
02-04-2008, 12:41 AM
Even if he doesn't win another fight in his career? He's basically made his name off his colossal upset victory of Roy Jones. He is also the two time light heavyweight Champ, and has a decent resume.
I think he is a borderline HOF, maybe not first ballot, but he will get the vote basically on his 2 victories over Roy alone.
What y'all think?
He doesn't really deserve to be in the HOF (at least, not once he got whupped by Hopkins)... but given the level of fighters that have been allowed in the Hall lately (Lew Jenkins?????), he probably will get in eventually.
ILLUMINATI
02-04-2008, 12:42 AM
NO....HELL NO...
Double L
02-04-2008, 03:22 AM
imo he needs to do more before he can - don't forget - he's still active and has some serious equity and can attract some big matches - depends how he does in those
Rabid Kimba
02-04-2008, 03:23 AM
Fuck no.
valdosta
02-04-2008, 03:29 AM
He has a solid chance for no other reason than he was the first guy to smash the shit out of Jones.
LATIN KING
02-04-2008, 03:30 AM
He has a solid chance for no other reason than he was the first guy to smash the shit out of Jones.so fuck a whole carrerer, you beat one guy and your in? Christ! :eeeek:
valdosta
02-04-2008, 03:32 AM
so fuck a whole carrerer, you beat one guy and your in? Christ! :eeeek:
Didn't say he deserved it but the truth is he has a great shot of getting in. He beat some solid contenders at 175 and then smashed Jones.
LATIN KING
02-04-2008, 03:35 AM
Didn't say he deserved it but the truth is he has a great shot of getting in. He beat some solid contenders at 175 and then smashed Jones.He also lost to Jones who was fighting on fumes that night. :lol:
BTW he beat an old Roy...
Erratic
02-04-2008, 12:14 PM
Probably not, but it's not as if the HOF has high standards anyway.
Hut*Hut
02-04-2008, 12:53 PM
hell no. Beating shot all time greats does not make you an all time great. Might as well put Uriah Grant and Omar Eduardo Gonzalez in if Tarver gets in.
Roy was coming off of the best win of his career when the series with Tarver began.
And he was shot.
Hmmm.
REEDsART
02-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Roy was coming off of the best win of his career when the series with Tarver began.
And he was shot.
Hmmm.Most IMPORTANT Win, but Certainly NOT His "Best"...
REED:nono:
Tam Tam
02-04-2008, 04:52 PM
Shot Jones :lol:
Boxing fans are just too predictable.
Donnybrook
02-04-2008, 04:55 PM
Probably not, but it's not as if the HOF has high standards anyway.
Bingo.
Most IMPORTANT Win, but Certainly NOT His "Best"...
REED:nono:
It's arguable, of course.
For me, since it's the only fight I picked against Roy (up to that point), I consider it (Ruiz) to be his best. In retrospect, the juiced up Toney/Ruiz fight really hurts it, I admit.
D MAN
02-04-2008, 05:21 PM
It would be a travesty if Tarver ends up in the hall of fame.
Orthodox Crusader
02-04-2008, 05:31 PM
Bingo.
Alright Donny, what do you say?!
Nobleart
02-04-2008, 05:35 PM
so fuck a whole carrerer, you beat one guy and your in? Christ! :eeeek:
Braddock is in based on beating Baer
Norton is in based on beating Ali
Randy Turpin is in based on beating Robinson
Jess Willard is in based on beating Jack Johnson
Tarver is also not a one and done guy like Buster Douglas, Leon Spinks or Primo Carnera, so yeah............he has a pretty good shot of getting in eventually.
Nobleart
02-04-2008, 05:39 PM
No chance.
Look at the guys who came before him
Conn
Charles
Conteh
Franklin
Bob Foster
Stribling
Spinks
Fitzsimmons
Thats rarefied company, and getting beat by Jones, Hopkins and Harding is not the way to get into that line of company.
Franklin - one of my favorite fighters of all time but he had a very short prime and has almost half as many losses as wins.
Conteh - ehhhhh
Stribling - Never won a title of any kind and only fought white guys
atomicdOGg34
02-04-2008, 05:53 PM
hopefully they dont drug test else tarver has no shot at all
valdosta
02-04-2008, 05:55 PM
Braddock is in based on beating Baer
Norton is in based on beating Ali
Randy Turpin is in based on beating Robinson
Jess Willard is in based on beating Jack Johnson
Tarver is also not a one and done guy like Buster Douglas, Leon Spinks or Primo Carnera, so yeah............he has a pretty good shot of getting in eventually.
Exactly. :bears:
His_Royness
02-04-2008, 06:03 PM
Shot Jones :lol:
Boxing fans are just too predictable.
Haters even more... a SHOT Jones beat Tarver in that fight, by the way. :tease:
Orthodox Crusader
02-04-2008, 07:14 PM
Franklin - one of my favorite fighters of all time but he had a very short prime and has almost half as many losses as wins.
Conteh - ehhhhh
Stribling - Never won a title of any kind and only fought white guys
Conteh fought Franklin and could have won if Franklins corner didn't gum up his cut eye with an illegal substance. Never fight in America.:nono:
Beyond the Grave
02-04-2008, 09:03 PM
It would be a travesty if Tarver ends up in the hall of fame.
No it wouldn't,there's worse fighters than him in there.The Hall of Fame has been a travesty for years now
D MAN
02-05-2008, 12:22 AM
No it wouldn't,there's worse fighters than him in there.The Hall of Fame has been a travesty for years now
So Let's just keep lowering the bar.......
I hear what your saying though.
Erratic
02-05-2008, 12:25 AM
Jose Suliaman is in the HOF.
I'm not sure how much worse you can make it after that induction.
Orthodox Crusader
02-05-2008, 02:55 AM
Jose Suliaman is in the HOF.
I'm not sure how much worse you can make it after that induction.
I think Tarver will get in. I just don't think he should get in.
PS Sulaiman is in there under the Janitorial category or something.
If Tarver can beat Woods and maybe beat Dawson and have 1 or defences it would help his case a lot. Nothing like being the first man to whip Dawson and Jones. If he had beaten Jirov in the Olimps then he could have gotten that award for best boxer and that would have helped a lot.
Still.....at the moment Antonio is a pretty sucky fighter, with a pretty sucky rep.
Nobleart
02-05-2008, 09:45 AM
Jose Suliaman is in the HOF.
I'm not sure how much worse you can make it after that induction.
The only thing worse then Jose Suliaman getting into the HOF was having to sit through the speech he gave after getting into the HOF. :doh:
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