Mosley vs. Judah May 31st?

[Antwuan Maxx]

Mosley-Judah in the works!
A verbal agreement has been reached between Golden Boy Promotions and Premier Event Management (PEMG) for a May 31st, 2008 showdown in Las Vegas between Shane Mosely and Zab Judah.


This came out of nowhere. Interesting match up.

[Barristan]

Good fight

[Xplosive]

The rumor I heard is Mosley-Mayorga on May 17th. Now this.

Either way Shane will win by TKO, whether its Zab or Mayorga.

[Joe King]

The rumor I heard is Mosley-Mayorga on May 17th. Now this.

Either way Shane will win by TKO, whether its Zab or Mayorga.
I agree, but I'd rather watch Zab fight Shane!:bears:

[Xplosive]

I agree, but I'd rather watch Zab fight Shane!:bears:

From an action stand point, Mosley-Mayorga might be more exciting. But terribly one sided IMO. Mosley would beat Mayorga's ass from pillar to post. Mosley-Judah certainly figures to be more competitive. But Shane is just a higher calibre fighter than Zab, and MUCH tougher both physically and mentally, so Shane figures to beat Zab as well.

[lb 4 lb]

Mosley-Judah in the works!
A verbal agreement has been reached between Golden Boy Promotions and Premier Event Management (PEMG) for a May 31st, 2008 showdown in Las Vegas between Shane Mosely and Zab Judah.


This came out of nowhere. Interesting match up.Mosley didn't seem interested in this fight at all after watching Judah disgrace himself and bitch up against Cotto. Why would he be interested now? Where's your source for this?

I'm not sure Mayorga is the eaiser fight for Shane than Judah is. Judah's done, he has no more confidence left and he'll bitch up against Shane just like he did in the last half of the Floyd fight and like he did for the entire Cotto fight.

[Tam Tam]

Twice the fight that the Mayorga one would have been. This isn't great, but it's a damn sight better than that other rubbish on offer.

[Neil]

I doubt mosley will stop judah.

[lb 4 lb]

I doubt mosley will stop judah.Well, Judah has shown that he's willing to stand there and do nothing while guys pummel him for 12 rds. So you may be right.

Why is this a better matchup than Mayorga again? Oh yeah, because some of you are still living under the belief that Judah's talent may come shinning through this time. :doh: Mayorga was more impressive in his last fight than Judah has been in his last 4. The guys through I tell ya.

[LATIN KING]

Well, Judah has shown that he's willing to stand there and do nothing while guys pummel him for 12 rds. So you may be right.

Why is this a better matchup than Mayorga again? Oh yeah, because some of you are still living under the belief that Judah's talent may come shinning through this time. :doh: Mayorga was more impressive in his last fight than Judah has been in his last 4. The guys through I tell ya.sure but Judah fought guys like Mayweather and Cotto.

Mayorga beat an already shot VArgas. kind of hard to compare don't you think. :lol:

[KaukipRrr]

Zab is a fucken overrated scrub to the very highest proportion, Zab is Tyson-like overrated, he's a straight can, and this must be a quick tune up, because there's no difference between him and a club fighter, Emanuel Augustus puts up a better and more entertaining scrap.

Above we've got "good fight" and "competitive" ,...lol :laughing: fuck off

[Antwuan Maxx]

Mosley didn't seem interested in this fight at all after watching Judah disgrace himself and bitch up against Cotto. Why would he be interested now? Where's your source for this?

I'm not sure Mayorga is the eaiser fight for Shane than Judah is. Judah's done, he has no more confidence left and he'll bitch up against Shane just like he did in the last half of the Floyd fight and like he did for the entire Cotto fight.

Fightnews.

[Orthodox Crusader]

Intriguing fight if it comes off, really a question of how much Mosley has left, if he has anything left he should beat Judah, after all, he gave Cotto a very good fight and would appear to have a bit left.

It won't make any difference as far as 147 is concerned, except in so much as the loser is out of business, period.

[Barristan]

Mosely gets hit with uppercuts and has problems with boxers, we may see an upset here.

[Xplosive]

Mosely gets hit with uppercuts and has problems with boxers, we may see an upset here.

Judah aint no boxer! He may give Shane trouble in the first 5 rounds, but after that we all know he'll fall apart.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Mosely gets hit with uppercuts and has problems with boxers, we may see an upset here.

Luckily for Mosley, Zab is not a boxer.

[REEDsART]

Good Matchup...

Not as Intriguing as it Would have Been Several Years Ago, but it's 1 of those Matchups that NEEDs to Happen for this Particular Era...

Better LATE than NEVER...


REED:cool:

[lb 4 lb]

sure but Judah fought guys like Mayweather and Cotto.

Mayorga beat an already shot VArgas. kind of hard to compare don't you think. :lol:It would be if I hadn't included Baldomir and the tomato can Zab just fought and looked unimpressive against. Overlooking those 2 fights I mentioned would have helped your point had I actually not mentioned them.

Even if I hadn't mentioned them the point is that Mayorga would likely put up a better fight than Zab would.

[lb 4 lb]

Intriguing fight if it comes off, really a question of how much Mosley has left, if he has anything left he should beat Judah, after all, he gave Cotto a very good fight and would appear to have a bit left.

It won't make any difference as far as 147 is concerned, except in so much as the loser is out of business, period.Mosley just put up a great fight against Cotto while Zab basically let Cotto treat him like a heavybag and you say Shane should beat Judah?

Only way Judah wins this fight is if he is able to put all his talent together and fight up to his potential, which would be only the 2nd time he's done that in his career. Even then there's no gurantee he wins. I mean what does Shane do when he's attacked? He attacks back. What does Judah do? He either gets KO'd or he mentally breaks down.

Only queston is if this will be PPV or not. Who am I kidding? Of course this will be PPV.

[Mitchell Kane]

This isn't a bad match up, though not one I'd pay for.

The blueprint for beating Judah is well known, and so the only intrigue in this fight is whether Mosley, at his age coming off a brutal fight with Cotto, can still implement it.

Judah is one of those fighters that other promoters must love...because he will almost reliably lose in exciting fashion.

[dsimon3387]

This isn't a bad match up, though not one I'd pay for.

The blueprint for beating Judah is well known, and so the only intrigue in this fight is whether Mosley, at his age coming off a brutal fight with Cotto, can still implement it.

Judah is one of those fighters that other promoters must love...because he will almost reliably lose in exciting fashion.
dsimon writes:Spot on brother Mitchell, spot on!

[atomicdOGg34]

mosley will ice judah with a straight right hand

[whiskey]

I was hoping Zab was going to fight Wlad. This is better than nothing i guess.

[Barristan]

Judah aint no boxer! He may give Shane trouble in the first 5 rounds, but after that we all know he'll fall apart.
Zab can box. He's not the best but he can counterpunch and uses movement. Like you said for the first 5 rounds of a fight Zab can box his ass off lol...Anyways Shane isn't what he used to be and he might not be able to catch up with Zab.

[Hex-One]

mosley will ice judah with a straight right hand I agree. Mosley will Stop Judah late in my opinion. Interesting fight though!:bears:

[Joe King]

At least Zab is on par with Mayorga in the trash talking contest, so we don't lose the only aspect of the fight that Mayorga brought to the table.

[Double L]

sometimes fights between two guys with blazing hand-speed are boring (witter/judah). but mosley isn't your typical quick-handed fighter. he's much more aggressive. if the fight's boring it will be because judah's speed and power have intimidated mosley - improbable scenario to say the least.

[KaukipRrr]

Good Matchup...

:rolleyes: Ah?,.. Would you call this one, Zab's 3rd consecutive 'superfight' ?...

:doh: Reed please,...not since Tyson have I ever seen a fighter so overrated,..

[REEDsART]

:rolleyes: Ah?,.. Would you call this one, Zab's 3rd consecutive 'superfight' ?...

:doh: Reed please,...not since Tyson have I ever seen a fighter so overrated,..REED Would Call it the "3rd Consecutive" Time Zab has SOMEHOW Managed to Make a More MEANINGFUL Fight than Margarito Seems Capable of Doing...


REED:crafty:

[phonetap]

UGH...why doesn't shane just retire...:doh:

[bigdawg]

This is a great matchup for Zab. If he somehow pulls of the upset he could possibly put himself back in the welterweight contention. Especially if he wins in dominating fashion. Is this a likely scenario. Hell naw because we all know Zabs mental makeup. Great opportunity for Zab. We all bash Zab about him under acheiving as far as his skill level, but one thing we can't deny is that the dude is putting together an impressive resume as far as fighters he's been in the ring with.Now I'm a little disappointed in Mosley. Why take on this fight? Why not take the Cotto rematch especially the way that fight ended and how close that fight was. Hell I think that there is more intrigue in a Mosley/Cotto 2 fight then a Taylor/Pavlik 2 fight. Not to mention with a victory over Zab what does that do for his career at this current time. Nothing! Just my thoughts. I'll Holla 5000

[Double L]

This is a great matchup for Zab. If he somehow pulls of the upset he could possibly put himself back in the welterweight contention. Especially if he wins in dominating fashion. Is this a likely scenario. Hell naw because we all know Zabs mental makeup. Great opportunity for Zab. We all bash Zab about him under acheiving as far as his skill level, but one thing we can't deny is that the dude is putting together an impressive resume as far as fighters he's been in the ring with.Now I'm a little disappointed in Mosley. Why take on this fight? Why not take the Cotto rematch especially the way that fight ended and how close that fight was. Hell I think that there is more intrigue in a Mosley/Cotto 2 fight then a Taylor/Pavlik 2 fight. Not to mention with a victory over Zab what does that do for his career at this current time. Nothing! Just my thoughts. I'll Holla 5000

Mosley needs a win though. Otherwise, he'll get screwed in negotiations for a Cotto rematch. By the way, I thought Mosley beat Cotto.

[bigdawg]

Mosley needs a win though. Otherwise, he'll get screwed in negotiations for a Cotto rematch. By the way, I thought Mosley beat Cotto.
All the more reason for the rematch. Now I could see him not taking the rematch had his signed to fight Cotto which I would have bet big bucks was going to happen. But since that fight failed to materalize then he should have taken the rematch. Now when Mosley beats Zab then what? Cotto got gomez and Margarito on the horizon. What does Mosley have? I guess a fight with Paul Williams? To me the rematch makes more sense then any other rematch out there considering how close the first fight was and the way it ended. I'll Holla 5000

[meetthefeebles]

The last time I looked, Zab was shot. Physically as well as mentally.

In light of this, it's a good fight for both guys.

If Zab somehow manages to sort his head out and put in a good performance, then he'll be able to put himself forward for another people of well paid defeats.

If Shane wins, as he should, then he adds a 'name' to his resume, regains a little lustre after his close defeat last time out, and puts himself back in contention for another shot at a titlist before he bows out.

That said, there are much bigger fights at 147 than this right now. This is a 'filler', and no more...

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Mosley needs a win though. Otherwise, he'll get screwed in negotiations for a Cotto rematch. By the way, I thought Mosley beat Cotto.What 7 rounds did Shane win?

[Tam Tam]

What FIVE rounds did Mosley win? He lost that fight clearly, IMO.

[ILLUMINATI]

Mosley needs a win though. Otherwise, he'll get screwed in negotiations for a Cotto rematch. By the way, I thought Mosley beat Cotto.


Mosley won 4 rounds....and HE DOESN'T want a rematch agaisnt COTTO...:nono:

[Joe King]

IMO, Mosley won at least 6 rounds. Cotto was back pedalling the whole last 4 because he gassed and Shane was coming on strong.

[valdosta]

So if a guy is backpeddling he can't win rounds? Cotto won at least 2 of the last 4 rounds.

[Joe King]

So if a guy is backpeddling he can't win rounds? Cotto won at least 2 of the last 4 rounds.

He did the 2007 version of DLH against Tito, so no:nono:

[Double L]

sometimes (not always) fights between two guys with blazing hand-speed can be boring and very tactical. i hope that won't be the case here, although i'm not overly worried given how aggressive Mosley is.

[valdosta]

He did the 2007 version of DLH against Tito, so no:nono:

No, Cotto actually landed punches. Just because a guy who is usually agressive boxes, don't mean he don't win rounds. Cotto won 2 of the last 4 rounds at least. Mosley was getting outlanded a lot even when Cotto boxed. Pure agression without landing punches is not winning rounds. Sorry but comparing Cotto and ODLH is a HORRIBLE comparison. I would say Cotto fought like ODLH in round 12 but not the others.

[Neil]

IMO, Mosley won at least 6 rounds. Cotto was back pedalling the whole last 4 because he gassed and Shane was coming on strong.

you sound like harold ledderman. did you swallow him whole, fatboy?

[Joe King]

you sound like harold ledderman. did you swallow him whole, fatboy?
Only after your mom swallowed something else.

[KaukipRrr]

REED Would Call it the "3rd Consecutive" Time Zab has SOMEHOW Managed to Make a More MEANINGFUL Fight than Margarito Seems Capable of Doing...


REED:crafty:

Somehow?..:eeeek: ...:nono: ...why he's being snapped up for these fights is precisely my point, extremely low risk - extremely high reward, poles apart and oppurtunistically irrational, thanks to a lil hype generating technique called 'handspeed'... it makes him, the most overrated fighter since Mike Tyson.

[dsimon3387]

UGH...why doesn't shane just retire...:doh:

dsimon writes:

Money in the bank. Mosley knows the spaz's routine.... hell everybody does. The spaz has a few good rounds, father of the spaz goes apeshit, the spaz gets a distant look in his eyes and shuts down.

Judah is the best gatekeeper in boxing.

[jarhead]

Mosely can make a good show of this and make some decent coin. He should call out Cintron or Williams after.:popcorn:

[The Genius]

You've got to be kidding me. In the words of LOK, Shane will pull off Judah's trunks and sodomise him in the ring.

[The Genius]

Judah is one of those fighters that other promoters must love...because he will almost reliably lose in exciting fashion.

Correct. That and the chance that he may give us another rendition of the 5 knuckle shuffle.

[LOK]

You've got to be kidding me. In the words of LOK, Shane will pull off Judah's trunks and sodomise him in the ring.

:bears:

I agree Shane shoudl call out Cintron. That is a fight Shane would win and make some more loot for low risk

[lb 4 lb]

Mosley won 4 rounds....and HE DOESN'T want a rematch agaisnt COTTO...:nono:I agree with this. I had Shane winning 4 rds at the least. Shane fought well but Cotto's much more precise punches made the difference even in those rds were Cotto appeared to be hurt or gassed. It's obvious Shane was surprised by Cotto's tactics. I think Shane was expecting to be in a head to head brawl and underestimated Cotto's speed.

As far as Judah goes, all Shane has to do is walk him down and go after him and Judah will mentally break down again. It's a non-fight really.

[Barristan]

I agree with this. I had Shane winning 4 rds at the least. Shane fought well but Cotto's much more precise punches made the difference even in those rds were Cotto appeared to be hurt or gassed. It's obvious Shane was surprised by Cotto's tactics. I think Shane was expecting to be in a head to head brawl and underestimated Cotto's speed.

As far as Judah goes, all Shane has to do is walk him down and go after him and Judah will mentally break down again. It's a non-fight really.
How about what Zab throws back, can Mosely get out of the way? This will be a better fight than most think.

[lb 4 lb]

How about what Zab throws back, can Mosely get out of the way? This will be a better fight than most think.You mean like Zab did against Cotto? Zab panicked and threw some shots out of fear that landed and stunned Cotto. Once Cotto fought back, Zab didn't throw shit the rest of the fight because he was too scared.

I can't imagine what Judah's done to get his confidence back so I expect more of the same from him. Anyway if this fight was going to happen we would have heard it reported somewhere other than the 2 sentence anouncement from fightnews.