Paul "The Punisher" Williams vs. Carlos "El Indio" Quintana ROUND BY ROUND

[ILLUMINATI]

:slap::slap:

[SRR]

They meet in the center of the ring......


Oh...my bad.....fight starts in 2 more hours.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

War Berto
War Williams
War Chavez Jr

:bears:

[Orthodox Crusader]

When is the next fight that actually matters???

[valdosta]

Williams-QUintana matters. :dunno: Regardless, after this week there is some kind of decent fight for several weeks in a row starting next week with Pavlik-Taylor and a pretty good undercard.

[Tam Tam]

Over 9.5 rounds :blobbox:

[valdosta]

Over 9.5 rounds :blobbox:

Unless "someone" quits.

[Tam Tam]

Williams isn't a body puncher, so don't jinx me :nono:

[valdosta]

They don't call him "The Punisher" without reason. :blobbox:

[Hex-One]

:slap::slap: WAR QUINTANA!!!!

[Ron King 702]

Over 9.5 rounds :blobbox:
Wager details for ticket number 48408941-1:

Wager Type: Total
Wager Status: Pending
Risk / To Win Amount: 375.00 / 300.00 (USD) Accepted 2/9/2008 9:33 PM - EST

Sport / Period: BOXING Other Sports / Game
Line:
Carlos Quintana/Paul Williams 2/9/2008 10:00:01 PM - (EST)
Over 9½ -125
* Game Notes:
WBO WELTERWIEGHT TITLE BOUT - 12 ROUNDS @ PECHANGA RESORT TEMECULA, CA

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[Tam Tam]

wRONg :bears:

[ILLUMINATI]

okay.........it has begun.....

[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto vs. Michel Trabant is next.......

[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto 20-0 (17 Ko's)
vs.
Michel Trabant 43-2-1 (19 Ko's)

[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto 20-0 (17 Ko's)
vs.
Michel Trabant 43-2-1 (19 Ko's)




Round 1

They meet in the middle of the ring jabs by both..jab/right hand by Berto. Right hand by Berto, catching Trabant leaning in...Jab,jab by Berto, jab/right by Berto, partially blocked. Jab/right again by Berto, another combo..partially lands...

Jab,jab,jab by Trabant backing Berto up...lead left hook by Berto, blocked. Berto missing with teh right hand, jabs to the body and head by Trabant. Right to the body by Berto, short right hand by Trabant but throwing it with fear...they trade jabs..

Round 1: Berto

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[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto 20-0 (17 Ko's)
vs.
Michel Trabant 43-2-1 (19 Ko's)




Round 2

They meet in the middle of the ring...Jab,jab by Berto being blocked, right hand blocked by Trabant. Jab,jab,right hand/left hook by Berto, left lands clean. Jab/right by Berto another right by Berto. Trabant blocking some of it with his forearm but some punches are getting through. Right/left to the body by Trabant, right by Berto blocked but pushes Trabant backwards.

Lead left hook to the head and body by Berto, head shot block, body one landed. Left hook to the body by Berto stalking Trabant..tracking him down another left to the body, right to the body by Berto.

Round 2: Berto

[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto 20-0 (17 Ko's)
vs.
Michel Trabant 43-2-1 (19 Ko's)




Round 3

They meet in the middle of the ring..Berto comes out jabbing, left hook to the body of the jabs. Left to the body by Trabant. Jabs by Berto, Jab/right hand, left hoo by Berto, another right by Berto, both right hand got in clean, LEFT hook to teh body, RIGHT UPPECUT by Berto snapping Trabant head back..Trabant takes it well...

Jab,jab by Berto, left to the head and body by Berto. Left hook by Trabant blocked, the right hand partially lands, while Berto was trying the shoulder roll..right uppercut by Berto, another uppercut by Berto snapping Trabant head back violently..Right/left to the body by Berto..

Round 3: Berto

LL is an idiot...:doh:

[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto 20-0 (17 Ko's)
vs.
Michel Trabant 43-2-1 (19 Ko's)




Round 4

They meet in the middle of the ring..Berto comes out jabbing, jabs by Trabant to the head and body, and tries with some hook/and rights but Berto block them, Jab,jab by Berto right hand by Berto. Right/left by Berto blocked, right uppercut by Berto. Jab,jab by Berto, Trabant trying to counter with a right, and he get counter with a left from Berto.

Right hand, another by Berto partially blocked, right hand/right uppercut by Berto. Trabant missing with a right hand, jab/righthand by Trabant...

Round 4: Berto

[Ron King 702]

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[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto 20-0 (17 Ko's)
vs.
Michel Trabant 43-2-1 (19 Ko's)




Round 5

They meet in the middle of the ring...Berto comes out jabbing, right uppercut by Berto. Jab,jab by Trabant. Hard jabs by Berto most being blocked by Trabant, left hoo by Trabant, Jab,jab, right hand by Berto.

Berto has impressive speed...kinda like a poor man version of 135 Mosley..just doesn't put the combos together as well..Jab,jab by Berto, missing with the left hook/right hand..

left uppercut by Trabant, left to teh body by Berto, and finish it with a jab. Jab/right cross buckles Trabant legs a bit...

Round 5: Berto

[ILLUMINATI]

Andre Berto 20-0 (17 Ko's)
vs.
Michel Trabant 43-2-1 (19 Ko's)




Round 6

They meet in the middle of the ring...jab/right hands by Berto comes out fast..most being blocked by Trabant, right/left to the body by Berto, another left to the body by Berto. Right hand/left hook by Berto, right uppercut by Berto.

Jab,jab by Berto, right to the body/left to the body/left to the head by Berto...Trabant doing NOTHING..left to the body by Berto, right/left by Bert o the body again...LEFT TO the body/right to the body by Berto, Uppercut by Berto...

Round 6: Berto

[ILLUMINATI]

TRABANT CORNER STOPS TEH FIGHT

[Neil]

this euro slime trabant belongs on survivor germany, not my tv on hbo.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Berto was impressive.

[valdosta]

Berto was impressive.

Trabant is garbage.

[Neil]

Berto was impressive.


berto was impressive working over a euro heavybag,yes

[Joe King]

TRABANT CORNER STOPS TEH FIGHT

No way!!! :lol:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Trabant is garbage.I know. Berto was impressive beating that bums ass :bears:

It is what it is a showcase for Berto. Hopefully he is a big enough name for the better guys to fight him now.

[Tam Tam]

Berto was impressive.
:lol:

[Neil]

164 lbs, damn. he'd have a cool 15lb advantage over mayweather jr.

[Octopus]

Did Trabant know he was in an actual fight and could punch back??:shit:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Question is can Williams knock out Quintana.

[ILLUMINATI]

TALE OF THE TAPE

Paul Williams
Height: 6'1"
Reach 25 1/2
Weight: 146 3/4
Tonight: 164


Carlos Quintana
Height: 5'9"
Reach: 25"
Weight 146
Tonight: 158

[Neil]

Question is can Williams knock out Quintana.

I doubt it

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')




is next....

[KaukipRrr]

TALE OF THE TAPE

Paul Williams
Height: 6'1"
Reach 25 1/2
Weight: 146 3/4
Tonight: 164


Carlos Quintana
Height: 5'9"
Reach: 25"
Weight 146
Tonight: 158

I think them measurements have got to be fucked up..

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Its ironic that the meaningless fight that nobody cared about aka Jones-Tito had way more people here then this meaningful fight does.

[ILLUMINATI]

I think them measurements have got to be fucked up..

yea...i think William reach is 35 1/2...not 25...

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

This looks like a 175lber fighting a lightweight.

[KaukipRrr]

yea...i think William reach is 35 1/2...not 25...

and he's got to be taller than 6"1,.. that's gotta be bullshit, surely.

[Hex-One]

Somone is going to have to take Williams out. The top welters can't keep avoiding this monster for much longer. Sooner or later they must fight Williams and SHTFU!

[Neil]

williams might get KOd if he keeps eating bombs

[Hex-One]

This looks like a 175lber fighting a lightweight. I CANT BELEIVE THIS! THE SIZE DIFFERENCE IS UN FUCKING REAL!

[Xplosive]

Quintana wins round 1.

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 1

They meet in the middle of the ring...arrggh i forgot these two are southpaws..Williams comes out jabbing, left hand by Williams catching Quintana coming in..Quintana trying to jab with Williams..losing the battle..

Left hand/right hook combo by Willaims, left hand by Quintana. Jab/left hand by Quintana, Williams takes it...left hand by Williams. Jab,jab by Williams. Lef thand by Quintana, jab,jab by Williams.

Quintana legs look crappy tonight...Jab,jab by Williams, Quintana moving alot..Right hook, left hand by Quintana, right by Williams..right hoo by Quintna..Williams holding on trying to get back at him...

Round 1: Quintana...close..:dunno:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

David just kicked Goliaths ass in round 1.:lol:

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Illu that wasn't close. Quintana won that round big.

[Hex-One]

WAR QUINTANA BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!:lol: :cheer:

[Xplosive]

Quintana is boxing the shit outta him so far.

[Joe King]

and he's got to be taller than 6"1,.. that's gotta be bullshit, surely.

Seriously. I saw him in person and he looks at least 6"3

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 2

They meet in the middle of the rign...both comes out jabbing. Right hook lead by Quintana, missing with the left hand. Quintana missign with the right hook, jab/left hand by Quintana, they trade jabs...

Right hook by Quintana, left/right to the body by Quintana, Jab,jab by Quintana, Left to the body by Quintana, right/left to the body by Quintana left to the head by Quintana.

Feint by Quintana, right hook by Quintana, Right/left by Quintana, WILLIAMS legs look a bit shaky....and HE HOLDS on to QUINTANA. LEFT HAND by Quintana...Left hand by Quintana...

Round 2: Quintana...:eeeek:

[Ron King 702]

gogogogogogogogoggogoogoogogoogogooggo



Wager details for ticket number 4840974-1:

Wager Type: Money Line
Wager Status: Pending
Risk / To Win Amount: 300.00 / 1875.00 (USD) Accepted 2/9/2008 9:34 PM - EST

Sport / Period: BOXING Other Sports / Game
Line:
Carlos Quintana 2/9/2008 10:00:01 PM - (EST)
+625
* Game Notes:
WBO WELTERWEIGHT TITLE BOUT - 12 ROUNDS @ PECHANGA RESORT TEMECULA, CA

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[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Williams has no defence for Quintanas straight left.

[Joe King]

David just kicked Goliaths ass in round 1.:lol:

Illum doesn't want to cheat on Cotto with Quintana. At least he is monagamous.:lol:

[Xplosive]

So far this fight is a laugh for those simps who think Williams could beat Floyd.

[ILLUMINATI]

WAR QUINTANA BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!:lol: :cheer:

calm down..hope that Quintana isn't busting his nut early....hope he isn't gas later....

[Joe King]

gogogogogogogogoggogoogoogogoogogooggo



Wager details for ticket number 4840974-1:

Wager Type: Money Line
Wager Status: Pending
Risk / To Win Amount: 300.00 / 1875.00 (USD) Accepted 2/9/2008 9:34 PM - EST

Sport / Period: BOXING Other Sports / Game
Line:
Carlos Quintana 2/9/2008 10:00:01 PM - (EST)
+625
* Game Notes:
WBO WELTERWEIGHT TITLE BOUT - 12 ROUNDS @ PECHANGA RESORT TEMECULA, CA

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Yep. Good bet even if you lose. Williams isn't that much of a favorite over anyone in the welterweight division.

[Neil]

that under bet don't look good. I doubt williams makes round 10 at this pace

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 3

They meet in the middle of the ring...right hand by Williams, choppin left hand by Williams, another left by Williams, Quintana get under Williams and digs to the body with left/rights...Left hand by Quintana, left by Williams.

Jabs to teh body by Quintana, left hand by Quintana....right hook by Quitnana, left by Quintana, Williams missing with the jab, left hand by Quintana, right/left to the body by Quintana, left hand by Williams, BIG left by Williams...

Round 3: Even..better round for Williams..

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Williams fought his best round in round 3 i think he may have got that on the scorecard for aggression. Carlos landed the harder shots though.

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 4

They meet in the middle of the ring...Williams come out jabbing, left hand by Quintana. Jab,jab by Quintana, jab/left hand by Williams, Jab,jab by Williams. Jab/left hand by Williams, BIG left by Quintana, Jab,jab by Williams.

Left hand by Quintana and he rolls away...Williams is sooo lazy with the left hand..he just throws it slowly out there..and brings it back slower..RIGHT HOOK by Quintana, Williams holds on, left/right to the body by Quintana. Right to teh body by Quintana, jabs by Williams.BIG LEFT by Quintana, William walk right into it..but he takes it..

Round 4: Quintana

[Xplosive]

Ive got it 3-1 Quintana.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Williams gotta cut off the ring better and he can still win this fight.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Round 5 was Williams best round.

[Neil]

williams workrate was artificially inflated against easy to hit straight forward plodders like margarito and that argentine bum cintron smashed

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 5

They meet in the middle of the ring...Williams comes out aggresively. Left to the body by Quintana, Jab,jab, lef thand lands for Williams, left to the bodyh by Quintana, big left by WILLIAMS, Jab,jab by Quintana, right to the body by Quintana.

Jabs by Williams, left by Quintana..little Quintana roughing Williams up when they clinch. Jab/left hand by Williams, Jab to the body by Quintana, left hand by Williams...

Lef thand by Quintana...Quintana walks away turning his back to williams, left hand by Williams, left by Quintana, left by Williams...

Round 5: Quintana..but close..LL might be right..Quintana is slowing down..some of those punches look sllloooooowwww...

[Octopus]

Unelievable!!

I have Quintana winning every round!! Though I can see a round for Williams!!:warning:

[dsimon3387]

dsimon writes:

If this fight disabuses everyone of the notion that Williams is some major force in the division to be reckoned with it will serve its purpose.

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 6

They meet in the middle of the ring...they come in clinching..Right to the body by Quintana, jab,jab by Williams, left hand by Quintana and he rolls away. BIG LEFT HAND BY WILLIAMS, Jab,jab by Quintana missing with the left...Left/right by Williams, left to the body by Williams, right/left by Williams following Quintana around, straight left by Quintana..

LEFT HAND by Quintana..another lead left by Quintana, right uppercut by Williams, right/left to teh body by Quintana. Right hook lead by Quintana, left hook by Quintana, backing WILLIAMS into the ropes.

Jab/left hand by Williams...

Round 6: Quintana...

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Williams won round 6.

[Neil]

damn williams would get countered to death by mayweather jr

[Hex-One]

I agree Williams will get smashed by PBF! He will be out-classed! I'm now convinced Cotto will beat the shit out of Williams also.

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 7

They meet in the middle of the ring...jabs by Williams, left by Williams, another. Left to the body by Quintana, Williams missing with the left. Jab,jab,jab by Williams, right hook by Quintana while clinching. SLOooowww lefts hand sby Quintana...Jab,jab by Williams, right/left to the body by Quintana, left to the head by Quintana, uppercut by Quintana while clinching.

Right hook by Quintana, left to the body by Williams...Right hook by Williams lands, BIG left by Quintana, right by Williams, jab,jab by Williams, left hand by Quintana., counter left by Quintana, right by Williams...

Round 7: Williams..

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Round 7 was a hellava round. They both landed big shots that was damn close.

[Xplosive]

Williams is lucky he never fought Zab. He's the one top opponent who I think Zab coulda shined against.

[Neil]

at best williams is down 5-2. at best. he got his ass kicked in round 7

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

damn williams would get countered to death by mayweather jrThis fight may help him get the big fights now he looks so beatable.

[Xplosive]

damn williams would get countered to death by mayweather jr

And he'd get brutalized by Cotto.

[Ron King 702]

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[Hex-One]

This fight may help him get the big fights now he looks so beatable. VERY GOOD POINT! CINTRON MUST BE VERY REGREFUL!

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 8
They meet in the middle of the ring...Williams comes out looking fresh throwing hard jabs, Quintana with looping slow left hands missing. Right hook by Williams, jabs to the body by Quintana. Right hook by Quintana.

Left hand by Williams, right hook by Williams, jab/left hand by Quintana, righ thook by Williams. right to the body by Quintana, left hand by Williams, right hook by Williams...Left hand by Williams, right to the body by Quintana. Left to the body by Quintana..

Jab/left hand by Williams..

Round 8: Williams

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Round 8 was a good round for Williams. Williams has won at least 4 rounds now.

[Xplosive]

at best williams is down 5-2. at best. he got his ass kicked in round 7

He'll get the decision though. You know he will.

[Neil]

gaining 18lbs obviously helps thos beanpole absorb punishment

[KaukipRrr]

Williams is lucky he never fought Zab. He's the one top opponent who I think Zab coulda shined against.

:laughing: You truelly are, the kneejerk king.

[Hex-One]

gaining 18lbs obviously helps thos beanpole absorb punishment:lol: :lol: Cotto's body shots would fold this beanpole in half!

[black06]

This is the first time I've seen Williams fight & this shit is not impressive!

[Ron King 702]

did anyone ever stop and think that maybe quintana is uhhhhhh good???

[ILLUMINATI]

ul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



Round 9

They meet in the middle of the ring....jabs by Williams, lead left by Quintana, counter jab by Quintana. Left hands by Quintana, Jab/left hand by WIlliams, right hook by Quintana, left hand by Quintana counter left, WIlliams holds on...

left/right by Williams catching Quintana walking away from him without looking..jab/left by Quintana, another left by Quintana, Williams clinch...left overhead by Quintana...

Round 9: Quintana







Round 10

They meet in the middle of the ring...both come out jabbing but Williams win the jabbing contest. Left hand by Quintana slow...and telegrap but it lands..Left hand by Williams, LEft down the middle by Williams...Jab,jab by both Quintana landing his jab. Left hand by Quintana jab/left hand by Quintana, another left, William jabbing..

Jab/overhand left by Quintana, left to the body,left to the head by Quintana. Jab,jab by both but Quintana landing, right/left by Quintana, left by Williams..

Round 10: Quintana..his best round since the last round..:)


Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')

Round 11

They meet in the middle of the ring..jabs to the body by Quintana, jabs by Williams, they trade right hooks, left hand by Quintana, left by Williams. BIG LEFT by Williams, stun Quintana a bit, but Quintana comes back with a left of his own.

Slapping lefts by both fighters, alot of clinching and shoving by both, jab/left hand by Quintana, right hook by Quintana, catching Williams looping, Right/left by Williams, right by Quintana, BIG left by Quintana, Williams clinching.

Round 11: Quintana..close..

[Hex-One]

WAR QUINTANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PUERTO RICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUE VIVA PUERTO RICO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ILLUMINATI]

Round 12

They meet int he middle of the ring...Williams comes out jabbing, right hook by Quintana, straight left by Quintana. Right hook by Williams, left to the body by Quintana, jab,jab by Williams..

alot of clinching/shoving by both left hand by Quintana, right to the body by Quintana, left hand by Quintana, left to the body by quintana pushing williams into the ropes...

Round 12: Williams...close....

[Joe King]

did anyone ever stop and think that maybe quintana is uhhhhhh good???

Yeah. Losing to Cotto doesn't make anyone bad.

[ILLUMINATI]

WAR QUINTANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PUERTO RICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUE VIVA PUERTO RICO!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: you dumb rican...the judges could still steal it from QUINTANA....:lol:

[Joe King]

AND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ron King 702]

thats hilarious that lederman had 11 for williams hahahahahah

[puerto rock]

Well I think this will end Williams' reign as the most avoided fighter. Surely the top names will now look to fight him, seeing how bad he looked.

[Xplosive]

I have Quintana winning, but Williams will def get the decision.

[Hex-One]

NO WAY CAN QUINTANA LOSE THIS FUCKING FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

That was a hellava fight.

[Xplosive]

thats hilarious that lederman had 11 for williams hahahahahah

Agreed. Lederman is SHOT as a ref!

[Hex-One]

AND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ILLUMINATI]

Paul "The Punisher" Williams 33-0 (24 Ko's)
vs.
Carlos "El Indio" Quintana 24-1 (19 Ko')



115-113
116-112
116-112

WINNER BY UD......CARLOS "EL INDIO" QUINTANA

[puerto rock]

Wow... A fair decision.

[Xplosive]

JUSTICE IS SERVED! A rightful decision!

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Quintana won 8 rounds :lol: :laughing:

[Hex-One]

AND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE TITLE GOES TO PR! FUCK WILLIAMS! GO TO HEAVYWEIGHT! BIATCH!

[Joe King]

:lol: Dan Goosen must be pissed

[Neil]

let's face it, williams is a tough kid and a giant welter, but he's just waay too sloppy for all the hype he was getting. I had it 8-4

[Xplosive]

And now Quintana becomes a big time player at 147.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I hope Cotto rematches Quintana. Beat his ass again.

[ILLUMINATI]

"i'm a great fighter"...sounded like Trinidad....:eek:

[Octopus]

GREAT FIGHT!!GREAT FIGHT!!

Hal Ledderman did a fucking AWFUL scorecard tonight!!

Congrats Carlos on the biggest upset so far this year!!:bears:

And also,I think Williams is about a Weight Class ahead of Quintana also!!

[Xplosive]

let's face it, williams is a tough kid and a giant welter, but he's just waay too sloppy for all the hype he was getting. I had it 8-4

I had it 8-4 for Quintana as well.

This fight makes that palooka Margarita look all the more worse. I cant wait until July when Cotto hammers that fraud.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

:lol: Look at Quintanas face when Max spits Cottos name. He don't want none of Miguel again :laughing:

[ElTerriblee]

Williams looked horrible. Totally flat and sloppy. :shit:

[Xplosive]

Quintana has a similar voice to Mayorga.

[KaukipRrr]

did anyone ever stop and think that maybe quintana is uhhhhhh good???

Well he was schooling Cotto before he got hit with a kidney punch so, perhaps he aint that bad :dunno: .

[Hex-One]

Almost the whole forum doubted Quintana. Damn we were all wrong including myslef. I love boxing.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Well he was schooling Cotto before he got hit with a kidney punch so, perhaps he aint that bad :dunno: .:lol: No he wasn't, Cotto was whupping his ass.

[ILLUMINATI]

Well he was schooling Cotto before he got hit with a kidney punch so, perhaps he aint that bad :dunno: .


:lol::lol:

schooling......the rounds were close..Cotto was switching stance and landing at will wayyyyy before the body shot ended it...

Cotto son beat up on Margarito's daddy......:clap::flip:

[Neil]

he sure was 'off' tonite,williams mo hawk wasn't even down the middle of his head :lol:

[Hex-One]

Nothing against Williams but I'm glad he LOST. He was talking too much crap. Now he can move to Super-Heavyweight where he belongs.:lol:

[Rabid Kimba]

Why are you guys so surprised about Ledderman?

He's a shit judge, always has been, always will be.

Good solid win for Quintana.

:bears:

[ElTerriblee]

he sure was 'off' tonite,williams mo hawk wasn't even down the middle of his head :lol:

The Punisher was punished for his stupid haircut immediately. :lol:

[KaukipRrr]

:lol::lol:

schooling......the rounds were close..Cotto was switching stance and landing at will wayyyyy before the body shot ended it...

Cotto son beat up on Margarito's daddy......:clap::flip:

Yep, switching stance is what Cotto does when he get's hurt, buzzed or embarrased, thankfully he eventully found the kidney region.

[ILLUMINATI]

Nothing against Williams but I'm glad he LOST. He was talking too much crap. Now he can move to Super-Heavyweight where he belongs.:lol:

Williams seem like a nice guy...humble and shit...it was his supporter that made him out to be more than he was....how he could beat Mayweather, Cotto, etc...

[ILLUMINATI]

Yep, switching stance is what Cotto does when he get's hurt, buzzed or embarrased, thankfully he eventully found the kidney region.

:lol:

No it's called being very...very skilled fighter...he beat up Quintana while southpawin'...he beat up Judah while southpawi....and landed some hard shot on Mosley off the southpaw stance..yeah..he switch and lands clean punches..most be cause his hurt...:rolleyes:

[KaukipRrr]

:lol:

No it's called being very...very skilled fighter...he beat up Quintana while southpawin'...he beat up Judah while southpawi....and landed some hard shot on Mosley off the southpaw stance..yeah..he switch and lands clean punches..most be cause his hurt...:rolleyes:

No, he switches from one way to the other, trying to shake off the butterflies, it's like poker, don't let your opponent know that your about to fold, luckily though, Cotto openned up a can of kidney beans.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Bloody hell, surprising.

Indeed, this makes lil old Miguel look all the better, and supremely overrated Margery look all the worse.

[boxingnotboxers]

Damn!

Just...FUCK IT! I'm so pissed right now. Williams made Quintana look like the ultimate boxer for most of the fight. Just walking around eating just about every punch Quintana threw while missing his own by at least a foot! I didn't even know that was possible!

Well, I'm not gonna be a bandwagoner. When his game is on (I don't know what that even MEANS right now :doh:) I still think Williams is the man. But all credit to Quintana; he made the best of his opportunity. Paul needs to let those cuts heal a while, and learn how to fight with his hands UP. It was amazing (read: "stupid") to watch someone who has no instinct to put their guard up on the side they're being hit.

[Orthodox Crusader]

In a way this is a pity, cos now Mayweather has an excuse to fight neither Margarito nor Williams.

[dsimon3387]

In a way this is a pity, cos now Mayweather has an excuse to fight neither Margarito nor Williams.

dsimon writes:

:lol: :bears: Even worse it makes Mayweather look like a fucking genius as all his pretenders get eliminated.

[KaukipRrr]

In a way this is a pity, cos now Mayweather has an excuse to fight neither Margarito nor Williams.

Loss on threat's record, --- amplify and exploit.
Zero in the loss slot IF
WITHOUT any noteable struggles along the way (option on it's own merit), THEN
use one or all of the following,
"who's he beat?","unproven","unworthy". If god flatly rejects a fight appearing completely intimidated and disturbed, CODE RED, use all of the above frequently and stalk the opponent for the rest of his seperate career.

Fraud groupie Qbasic.

[Xplosive]

Damn!

Just...FUCK IT! I'm so pissed right now. Williams made Quintana look like the ultimate boxer for most of the fight. Just walking around eating just about every punch Quintana threw while missing his own by at least a foot! I didn't even know that was possible!

Well, I'm not gonna be a bandwagoner. When his game is on (I don't know what that even MEANS right now :doh:) I still think Williams is the man. But all credit to Quintana; he made the best of his opportunity. Paul needs to let those cuts heal a while, and learn how to fight with his hands UP. It was amazing (read: "stupid") to watch someone who has no instinct to put their guard up on the side they're being hit.

I'm still a Williams fan as well, and he's still a top contender at welter and will be a good fighter for years to come. HOWEVER, his weaknesses were definitely exposed last night, and I'd give him ZERO chance at beating either Floyd, or Cotto.

[KaukipRrr]

I'm still a Williams fan as well, and he's still a top contender at welter and will be a good fighter for years to come. HOWEVER, his weaknesses were definitely exposed last night, and I'd give him ZERO chance at beating either Floyd, or Cotto.

"He's lucky he never fought Zab!" .........:laughing: :crafty:

[Xplosive]

"He's lucky he never fought Zab!" .........:laughing: :crafty:

Well considering how easily he gets tagged by southpaws, and considering that Zab hits harder, and faster than either Quintana or Mitchell, I'd say its entirely possible that Zab could have beaten Williams. I dunno about now, cause I think the Cotto beating took alot out of Judah, but the Judah that beat Spinks woulda mopped the floor with the Williams we saw last night.

[KaukipRrr]

Well considering how easily he gets tagged by southpaws, and considering that Zab hits harder, and faster than either Quintana or Mitchell, I'd say its entirely possible that Zab could have beaten Williams. I dunno about now, cause I think the Cotto beating took alot out of Judah, but the Judah that beat Spinks woulda mopped the floor with the Williams we saw last night.

So now we pick and chose volumes?,.. what about the Zab that fought Tszyu?, Fraud?, Cotto?, Baldomir?, Pineda?, etc... how does he fare?.. and what version of Williams are we matching him up against?.. Did we give Zab Quintana's brain for this, did we install it?.., .. can we give Zab a blonde mohawk?, customize his trunks a lil bit?..:crafty:

[Xplosive]

So now we pick and chose volumes?,.. what about the Zab that fought Tszyu?, Fraud?, Cotto?, Baldomir?, Pineda?, etc... how does he fare?.. and what version of Williams are we matching him up against?.. Did we give Zab Quintana's brain for this, did we install it?.., .. can we give Zab a blonde mohawk?, customize his trunks a lil bit?..:crafty:

Any of those versions of Zab fare well against Williams, considering that Paul cant avoid any southpaw punches to say his life.

[KaukipRrr]

Any of those versions of Zab fare well against Williams, considering that Paul cant avoid any southpaw punches to say his life.

Well I think it's a humourous and clever exaggeration X,... to say, Paul Williams really sucks against southpaws, one could definitely interperate that through "He's lucky he never fought Zab!"..it's extreme, like "taking FOREVER"..as in taking, say,.. a few minutes longer. :bears:

[Xplosive]

Well I think it's a humourous and clever exaggeration X,... to say, Paul Williams really sucks against southpaws, one could definitely interperate that through "He's lucky he never fought Zab!"..it's extreme, like "taking FOREVER"..as in taking, say,.. a few minutes longer. :bears:

I didnt say he sucks against southpaws, but based on the Mitchell and Quintana fights, his defense damn sure sucks against them. Quintana hit him at will, Mitchell hit him at well too but Sharmba was too old, and small for it to matter.

Zab might not be as skilled as Quintana, but he's awhole lot faster, and more powerful. He'd have been finding the range on Williams w/ease.

[Tam Tam]

Captain Kneejerk never ceases to dissapoint. Thanks, X! :bears:

[Xplosive]

Captain Kneejerk never ceases to dissapoint. Thanks, X! :bears:

Yeah right. If you had asked me prior to tonight I'd have told you that Judah has the style to have given Williams hell. I'm not knee jerking anything. I never proclaimed Williams as the second coming prior to last night. I thought he'd beat Quintana, but I never thought he could beat Floyd, or Cotto. Hell I thought Cintron had a legit shot at beating him, which is why I was surprised Kermit pulled out.

[Tam Tam]

Zab Judah couldn't give Mephisto, hell. It's people like you that continue to keep this guy somewhat relevant, when he isn't and hasn't been since he got beat by Baldomir. He's utter trash.

Physically gifted, but trash. He'll never beat a decent fighter who doesn't crack at the first sign of trouble. Never has, never will.

[meetthefeebles]

Zab Judah couldn't give Mephisto, hell. It's people like you that continue to keep this guy somewhat relevant, when he isn't and hasn't been since he got beat by Baldomir. He's utter trash.

Physically gifted, but trash. He'll never beat a decent fighter who doesn't crack at the first sign of trouble. Never has, never will.

Not only did this post make me chuckle, it is also 100% correct :bears:

[The Cuban Hawk]

Williams is lucky he never fought Zab. He's the one top opponent who I think Zab coulda shined against.

Can't resist a Zab plug, can you? :rolleyes:


Carlos Baldomir's old, clubfighter ass UD Judah

Live with it. :tease:

[The Cuban Hawk]

Zab Judah couldn't give Mephisto, hell. It's people like you that continue to keep this guy somewhat relevant, when he isn't and hasn't been since he got beat by Baldomir. He's utter trash.


:bears: :bears: :bears: :bears: :bears:

[The Cuban Hawk]

So now we pick and chose volumes?,.. what about the Zab that fought Tszyu?, Fraud?, Cotto?, Baldomir?, Pineda?, etc... how does he fare?.. and what version of Williams are we matching him up against?.. Did we give Zab Quintana's brain for this, did we install it?.., .. can we give Zab a blonde mohawk?, customize his trunks a lil bit?..:crafty:

:lol: :lol:

Exactly.

It's just as easy to look at Zab quitting like a bitch to Baldomir (back when Zab was supposed to be at his peak), and saying he's lucky he never fought Williams.