Haye v Maccarinelli- OFFICIAL PREDICTIONS

[meetthefeebles]

Three of the four Cruiserweight World Title belts (WBA, WBC, WBO) are on the line at the O2 Arena on Saturday 8th March as Enzo Maccarinelli (28-1-0, 21 KO's) takes on David 'Hayemaker' Haye (20-1-0, 19 KO's) in a HUGE British domestic fight and one that promises to be an explosive contest between two guys who many believe are somewhat fragile around the whiskers but contain explosive KO power.

Who's got who?

MTF :popcorn:

[Joe King]

I think Haye will win because he's been in there with better opposition, but Macarinelli will put up a hell of a fight and we will all be looking forward to a rematch.

Haye TKO8

[meetthefeebles]

For me, the key here is who lands first...

Mac is undoubtedly a BIG puncher, but his oppo has been largely awful to date (save a shopworn Braithwaite who he dominated) and I can't help shake the feeling that he has been KO-ing tomato cans in typical Frank Werren style.

IMO he is slower and less skilled generally than Haye, who has better hand and foot speed and well as at least an equal level of power. For all that Bonin is GARBAGE, he is a HW and Haye KHTFO in a round. There can be no doubt that Haye has dynamite is both hands and the potential to KO Mac if this turns into a slug fest. For all that the detractors might whine, going to Paris and getting off the canvas to KO Mormeck was very impressive. Declining or not, most thought Mormeck would be too good for David.

There are plenty of intangibles. Mac MIGHT be better than he appears. Some of Werren's protected lot are. Look at how much better Calzaghe has shown himself to be when he stepped up in class. But I just can't quite see that in Enzo, even though he has clearly improved a lot since the days when Swaby was KO-ing him. The shift to Enzo Calzaghe's gym has also seen a great improvement in his movement and especially his defense and overall technique.

For all of that, Haye should be too quick and classy, which means he should land first. And if he lands first, he should win. Which is why I'm picking him. But it would be no great shock to me to see Enzo ICE him if he catches the money shot.

That's what makes it such an exciting match-up. Both are power punchers who can't take a punch. But I'm going with Haye.

Haye KO 9


MTF

[LATIN KING]

I haven't seen a cruiserweight fight since the first Mormeck/Bell unification fight. It was a damn good scrap. But I just really can't get familiar with the cruiserweights. :dunno:

[TKO]

Enzo Ko5



"He can say what he likes but he's delusional. I'll punch a hole in his head," Maccarinelli, told BBC Sport. :lol:

[Hut*Hut]

I keep going back and forward on this one....I'm going with Haye though. I can certainly envision Enzo winning but my first reflex was to pick Haye, and that's usually right.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

'The Hayemaker' in 7.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Haye KO 5

[adamiw]

Haye KO 3

[joony]

eazy macaronni is underrated. would not surprise me if he wins via points

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

Haye TKO4

[Ugotabe Kidding]

Haye KO5. Should be fun

[LOK]

Hay KO 4

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

eazy macaronni is underrated. would not surprise me if he wins via pointsThe later this fight goes the more trouble Haye is in. His stamina sucks.

[REEDsART]

REED Hasn't Seen Either Guy Fight so he Can't Form an EDUCATED Opinion...

But Since Haye KO'ed Mormeck, who KO'ed Braithwaite, who REED was VERY High on 1nce Upon a Time, he's HOPING Haye Wins:lol: ...

More than Anything, what the Crusierweight Division Needs is a DOMINANT Champ...Braithwaite APPEARED to B that Guy til he Met Mormeck...Mormeck Appeared to B that Guy til Bell & Now Haye...

The Division Itself is TALENTED, but they Need a DOMINANT, Loooooong TENURED Guy @ the Top...

Hopefully the Winner of this Bout can BECOME that...


REED:cool:

[adamiw]

REED Hasn't Seen Either Guy Fight so he Can't Form an EDUCATED Opinion...

But Since Haye KO'ed Mormeck, who KO'ed Braithwaite, who REED was VERY High on 1nce Upon a Time, he's HOPING Haye Wins:lol: ...

More than Anything, what the Crusierweight Division Needs is a DOMINANT Champ...Braithwaite APPEARED to B that Guy til he Met Mormeck...Mormeck Appeared to B that Guy til Bell & Now Haye...

The Division Itself is TALENTED, but they Need a DOMINANT, Loooooong TENURED Guy @ the Top...

Hopefully the Winner of this Bout can BECOME that...


REED:cool:

don't be too hopeful then if Haye wins....this will be his last fight at cruiserweight

[Tam Tam]

Mormeck didn't KO Braithwaite. He did beat his as over 12 rounds pretty roughly though.

Haye with an early KO here though. Enzo is average as all hell and if he beats Haye, he continues to make a mockery of what the cruiserweights have become.

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

REED Hasn't Seen Either Guy Fight so he Can't Form an EDUCATED Opinion...

But Since Haye KO'ed Mormeck, who KO'ed Braithwaite, who REED was VERY High on 1nce Upon a Time, he's HOPING Haye Wins:lol: ...

More than Anything, what the Crusierweight Division Needs is a DOMINANT Champ...Braithwaite APPEARED to B that Guy til he Met Mormeck...Mormeck Appeared to B that Guy til Bell & Now Haye...

The Division Itself is TALENTED, but they Need a DOMINANT, Loooooong TENURED Guy @ the Top...

Hopefully the Winner of this Bout can BECOME that...


REED:cool:
All the Crusierweight division needs is for the Networks to show the fights.

[REEDsART]

Mormeck didn't KO Braithwaite. He did beat his as over 12 rounds pretty roughly though.

Haye with an early KO here though. Enzo is average as all hell and if he beats Haye, he continues to make a mockery of what the cruiserweights have become.U're Right:doh: ...

REED Actually SAW that Fight yet STILL Managed to have a Brainfart...


REED:cool:

[Tam Tam]

U're Right:doh: ...

REED Actually SAW that Fight yet STILL Managed to have a Brainfart...


REED:cool:
No biggie. He may as well have, because he beat Wayne's head in real bad and basically ended him as a top flight fighter.

[REEDsART]

don't be too hopeful then if Haye wins....this will be his last fight at cruiserweightNICE!!!...

All we Need is ANOTHER Undersized Heavyweight...

REED:rolleyes:

[mexican wedding shirt]

REED, I was also under the impression Mormeck stopped him and I've seen the fight. It must have been a pretty raw beating :lol:

[REEDsART]

REED, I was also under the impression Mormeck stopped him and I've seen the fight. It must have been a pretty raw beating :lol:He THOROUGHLY Whipped Braithwaite's Ass...The Scorecards DIDN'T Even Need to B Read Afterwards...

Dropped him 1nce, WOBBLED him Half a Dozen Times...

Mormeck Treated "Big Truck" Braithwaite like a Volkswagen...


REED:cool:

[Attraction]

this might be a poor fight.

caution will be used by both men and it might not turn into the slugfest that many are hoping for.

[adamiw]

this might be a poor fight.

caution will be used by both men and it might not turn into the slugfest that many are hoping for.

There is always a danger of over-hyping these sort of fights.....'the first one who lands'....and then no one really ends up landing their big shot at all

Haye is as confident as anyone, and if anything he is more reserved in some of his interviews.....he really believes this fight will be over very quick, like the Gurov fight. He won't go in gung-ho, but he'll be looking for half an opportunity to land that right hand.....he's got to be wary though, arguably, Enzo's best shot is his instinctive counter left hook.

Enzo is the one who may adjust his tactics....as well as his chin, the other of Haye perceived weaknesses is his stamina.....i think Enzo will go in with the game plan - at least - of starting cautious and look to come on strong late and let his superior conditioning and latter round experience be the difference. If Haye (and along with it the occaision) gets to him early, then that plan could go out the window.

I am as excited about this fight as any over here since Calzaghe-Lacy....and i'll be there to see it too!

[Tam Tam]

Just goes to show, you dont need good fighters to make a good fight.

[meetthefeebles]

don't be too hopeful then if Haye wins....this will be his last fight at cruiserweight

Yup

Haye was about to move up until a shot at mainstream UK fame called him out. If he wins, he is gone...

[meetthefeebles]

Just goes to show, you dont need good fighters to make a good fight.

Do you actually like any boxer's Tam? Or is it just still raining outside your window? :lol:

[meetthefeebles]

There is always a danger of over-hyping these sort of fights.....'the first one who lands'....and then no one really ends up landing their big shot at all

Haye is as confident as anyone, and if anything he is more reserved in some of his interviews.....he really believes this fight will be over very quick, like the Gurov fight. He won't go in gung-ho, but he'll be looking for half an opportunity to land that right hand.....he's got to be wary though, arguably, Enzo's best shot is his instinctive counter left hook.

Enzo is the one who may adjust his tactics....as well as his chin, the other of Haye perceived weaknesses is his stamina.....i think Enzo will go in with the game plan - at least - of starting cautious and look to come on strong late and let his superior conditioning and latter round experience be the difference. If Haye (and along with it the occaision) gets to him early, then that plan could go out the window.

I am as excited about this fight as any over here since Calzaghe-Lacy....and i'll be there to see it too!

Ditto- this is a MASSIVE fight here- even the casual boxing fan is talking about it in the pubs and clubs.

Should be a GREAT night for boxing in the UK, either way...

[meetthefeebles]

this might be a poor fight.

caution will be used by both men and it might not turn into the slugfest that many are hoping for.

Who you picking, Junior? :lol:

[Attraction]

Who you picking, Junior? :lol:

As much as I would love to see Macaroni splattered to the canvas, I think he might take Haye late on. Fact is, Haye seems to have stamina issues and Macaroni has the better stamina. his strategy will be, get Hayes respect early, stay out of the way and come on strong during the mid rounds onwards. Neither man thinks the other can take his punch but both surely know they can be KO'd quite easily here so I am expecting caution from macaroni in particular, which is exactly what he needs. However, it really wouldn't surprise me if this fight ended in the first round or the last round in either mans favour.

[KaukipRrr]

Haye by KO 1. Maccarinelli is sheer Toadfish.

[IronDanLaw]

Haye by TKO in 6.

[Hut*Hut]

NICE!!!...

All we Need is ANOTHER Undersized Heavyweight...

REED:rolleyes:

No he's EXACTLY what we need an IN SHAPE 220lb heavyweight who can punch.:popcorn:

[grimey]

slight edge to HAYE should be good while it last........

[valdosta]

No he's EXACTLY what we need an IN SHAPE 220lb heavyweight who can punch.:popcorn:

With no chin.

[valdosta]

As much as I would love to see Macaroni splattered to the canvas, I think he might take Haye late on. Fact is, Haye seems to have stamina issues and Macaroni has the better stamina. his strategy will be, get Hayes respect early, stay out of the way and come on strong during the mid rounds onwards. Neither man thinks the other can take his punch but both surely know they can be KO'd quite easily here so I am expecting caution from macaroni in particular, which is exactly what he needs. However, it really wouldn't surprise me if this fight ended in the first round or the last round in either mans favour.

If Macarinelli tries to fight a slow pace it's not going to tire Haye out. :dunno:

[Attraction]

If Macarinelli tries to fight a slow pace it's not going to tire Haye out. :dunno:

Haye will slow down in the mid to late rounds even if the pace isn't that fast. hes dead at cruiserweight and his speed and stamina deteriorate as the fight goes on. he will be very dangerous in the first 4 rounds. After which, I expect macaroni to take over.

but i would love haye to get a KO1

[valdosta]

I thought his stamina looked fine against Mormeck. If you let Haye dictate the pace he can hold up just fine. I expect him to get Macrinelli's attention real quick with his faster hands.

[Attraction]

I thought his stamina looked fine against Mormeck. If you let Haye dictate the pace he can hold up just fine. I expect him to get Macrinelli's attention real quick with his faster hands.

i think he is having trouble making the limit though, which will affect his stamina. hes been talking about how hard it is to make the weight for a while now and he announced that he couldnt make it any more and he was moving up to heavyweight after the mormeck fight but warren has coughed up a substancial sum to lure him into a match, his last at cruiser win or lose. he is much morelikeable than that queer macaroni so i hope he splatters him accross the ring

[Beyond the Grave]

? When is this fight?

And I've never seen Macaroni or Haye fight:dunno: So this a be a good opportunity to see what there about

[meetthefeebles]

? When is this fight?

And I've never seen Macaroni or Haye fight:dunno: So this a be a good opportunity to see what there about

This Saturday (8th March). REED informs me that it is on some channel or other in the US, though I forget which one...

[meetthefeebles]

DAVID HAYE 13

Joe King- Haye TKO8
Meetthefeebles- Haye KO9
Hut*Hut- Haye to win
Mean Mr Mustard- 'Haye in 7'
Mexican Wedding Shirt- Haye KO5
adamiw- Haye KO3
Royjonesjuniorp4pno1- Haye TKO4
Ugotabe Kidding- Haye KO5
LOK- Hay [sic] KO3
Tam Tam- Haye by 'early KO'
KaukipRrr- Haye KO1 ('Mac is sheer toadfish' :lol)
IronDanLaw- Haye TKO6
grimey- 'slight edge to Haye'


ENZO MACCARINELLI 3

TKO- Enzo KO5
joony- Enzo by decision
Attraction- Enzo 'late on'

[Attraction]

countdown to the fight




www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMjX2H-hh4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMjX2H-hh4k)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmLwQzOUl7Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmLwQzOUl7Y)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j96Dic34JI8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j96Dic34JI8)

[valdosta]

i think he is having trouble making the limit though, which will affect his stamina. hes been talking about how hard it is to make the weight for a while now and he announced that he couldnt make it any more and he was moving up to heavyweight after the mormeck fight but warren has coughed up a substancial sum to lure him into a match, his last at cruiser win or lose. he is much morelikeable than that queer macaroni so i hope he splatters him accross the ring

Yeah but a lot of the same shit was said before the Mormeck fight as well and he was fine. His chin sucks so he may get KO'ed but the talent difference is enough I think he gets to Mac first.

[Joe King]

I would really love to see this fight. Does anyone have a streaming link, or be able to post one come fight time?

[meetthefeebles]

countdown to the fight




www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMjX2H-hh4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMjX2H-hh4k)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmLwQzOUl7Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmLwQzOUl7Y)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j96Dic34JI8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j96Dic34JI8)

Missed this last night as I was in the boozer, so much appreciated... :bears:

[meetthefeebles]

I would really love to see this fight. Does anyone have a streaming link, or be able to post one come fight time?

I'm sure REED said that this one was being shown over your side of the pond...

[Antwuan Maxx]

I would really love to see this fight. Does anyone have a streaming link, or be able to post one come fight time?

Showtime has it on some day tape delay. Their broadcast starts at 9. If I'm not mistaking the HBO card (Peter-Maskaev, Diaz-Campbell) starts at 9:45. I'd be shocked if Haye-Macca lasted more than 4 or 5 rounds, so hopefully the cards don't overlap.

[adamiw]

Showtime has it on some day tape delay. Their broadcast starts at 9. If I'm not mistaking the HBO card (Peter-Maskaev, Diaz-Campbell) starts at 9:45. I'd be shocked if Haye-Macca lasted more than 4 or 5 rounds, so hopefully the cards don't overlap.

pretty sure showtime will be showing it live cos the fight isn't taking place until the early hours of sunday morning local time

[meetthefeebles]

pretty sure showtime will be showing it live cos the fight isn't taking place until the early hours of sunday morning local time

Yup- it MUST be live, as the fight is on at 1.30am in England even though the fight is in London. I can't see why the fight would be on delay in the States if the time has been put back over here... :dunno: