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Hex-One
02-29-2008, 11:40 AM
Thought it was very interesting........


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royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-29-2008, 11:42 AM
A Hatton fan making a video about another fighter cheating. How can anybody take this seriously.

joony
02-29-2008, 11:42 AM
probably not, but cotto can resort to hitting on the nuts like he did vs judah.

LOK
02-29-2008, 11:43 AM
A Hatton fan making a video about another fighter cheating. How can anybody take this seriously.

:lol:

lol for real:laughing:

Hex-One
02-29-2008, 11:44 AM
A Hatton fan making a video about another fighter cheating. How can anybody take this seriously. The videos clearly shows PBF using illegal tactics! I don't want to take anything away from PBF, he is P4P the best in my opinion. But these videos really expose some tactics that are not legal.

Xplosive
02-29-2008, 11:45 AM
He's a better question for a thread... does ANYONE on this forum take Hex seriously as a poster? Put up a poll for it.... I'm sure the answers will be overwhelmingly one sided.

Hex-One
02-29-2008, 11:46 AM
probably not, but cotto can resort to hitting on the nuts like he did vs judah.:lol: True! If I was Cotto and PBF went down the sniff my nuts I will hammer him with a elbow right behind the head and KHTFO.:laughing:

Hex-One
02-29-2008, 11:47 AM
He's a better question for a thread... does ANYONE on this forum take Hex seriously as a poster? Put up a poll for it.... I'm sure the answers will be overwhelmingly one sided. Can you stop being so damn serious and just have fun every once and a while? Damn dude. Do you seriously think I care what anyone thinks? Last time I checked I pay my bills.

Ugotabe Kidding
02-29-2008, 11:47 AM
Even though it didn't change the outcome of the fight, a fact is PBF got away with blatantly breaking the rules. Pushing from the throat does take wind out of fighter

LOK
02-29-2008, 11:48 AM
that video is ridiculous

Hex-One
02-29-2008, 11:52 AM
that video is ridiculous I found it amusing. But apparently some posters here can't have fun every once and a while...:lol:

LOK
02-29-2008, 11:54 AM
I found it amusing. But apparently some posters here can't have fun every once and a while...:lol:

I can't stop watching it.. and it makes me laugh with the "Chick CHINNG" camera click noises:lol:
it is really funny how some of the things are made to LOOK more intentional and Illegal by the freeze frame or still shot..

for example, sometimes Floyd will be kind of using his forearm/elbow to block and it will barely hit Hatton if at all and they take a pic and say "ELBOW" :lol:

Hex-One
02-29-2008, 11:55 AM
I can't stop watching it.. and it makes me laugh with the "Chick CHINNG" camera click noises:lol:
it is really funny how some of the things are made to LOOK more intentional and Illegal by the freeze frame or still shot..

for example, sometimes Floyd will be kind of using his forearm/elbow to block and it will barely hit Hatton if at all and they take a pic and say "ELBOW" :lol: Yes I agree! I also found it funny whenever I heard them camera clicks!:bears:

Xplosive
02-29-2008, 11:58 AM
Can you stop being so damn serious and just have fun every once and a while? Damn dude. Do you seriously think I care what anyone thinks? Last time I checked I pay my bills.

I'll have more fun when you stop spamming.

royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-29-2008, 11:58 AM
I can't stop watching it.. and it makes me laugh with the "Chick CHINNG" camera click noises:lol:
it is really funny how some of the things are made to LOOK more intentional and Illegal by the freeze frame or still shot..

for example, sometimes Floyd will be kind of using his forearm/elbow to block and it will barely hit Hatton if at all and they take a pic and say "ELBOW" :lol:
Amagine how long one of them videos would be if that guy went through all of his boys fights and found all of the cheating he done.

LOK
02-29-2008, 12:00 PM
Amagine how long one of them videos would be if that guy went through all of his boys fights and found all of the cheating he done.

lol

it really is funny..

I wanna make one now:lol:

I think every one of the "elbows" they show are actually just Floyd trying to block or hide his chin under his shoulder with his elbow up.. and WHO CARES if he ducks low? :lol: I never understood that one..

Hex-One
02-29-2008, 12:08 PM
I'll have more fun when you stop spamming. Blah Blah Blah Blah. Loosen up and let's have some fun!:bears:

royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-29-2008, 12:11 PM
I like on the first video how Ricky pulls Mayweathers head down and it calls it "Sniffing Rickys crotch". These Hatton groupies are rediculous.

royyjonesjrp4pno1
02-29-2008, 12:15 PM
The guy who made that video complains about Floyd holding and hitting, then he complains that when Cortez warns Ricky because he was on the attack. This rediculous video doesn't prove Floyds a cheat it proves Ricky is.

LOK
02-29-2008, 01:57 PM
The guy who made that video complains about Floyd holding and hitting, then he complains that when Cortez warns Ricky because he was on the attack. This rediculous video doesn't prove Floyds a cheat it proves Ricky is.

lol

that's what I was thinking.. the clip makes Ricky look as bad or worse than Floyd.. the guy points out at one point Floyd Ducking low.. but then says nothing abotu Hatton putting Floyd in a Guiltiene

Erratic
02-29-2008, 02:12 PM
Unless it's really extreme, I don't see why people make a big deal out of illegal tactics.

You watch enough boxing and you get used to it.

Cotto attacks the body a lot so naturally some are going to stray low (especially when his opponent pulls his head down). Floyd uses his share of elbows and forearms, "OH NO!!".

When guys start fouling like Nigel Benn and Eusebio Pedroza then I have a problem.

jaws1216
02-29-2008, 02:29 PM
illegal tactics was Caballero and la-whateveritwas on the vasquez marquez 2 undercard. Those filthy savages should've both been put out of their misery

KaukipRrr
03-01-2008, 12:53 AM
Unless it's really extreme, I don't see why people make a big deal out of illegal tactics.

You watch enough boxing and you get used to it.

Cotto attacks the body a lot so naturally some are going to stray low (especially when his opponent pulls his head down). Floyd uses his share of elbows and forearms, "OH NO!!".

When guys start fouling like Nigel Benn and Eusebio Pedroza then I have a problem.

If Fraud ever goes down to a snow white German, who throws a "backtwist / counter elbow combination to the throat, and Mayweather is counted out, on his knees, struggling to breathe with laryx damage, :laughing: I'm sure all Fraud's groupies will say the same thing, "No big deal, we are used to that, fare is fare, all hail our great p4p number 1 European champion, I am already a fan" :laughing: "May he have a long and successful reign, doing the same thing against all our undefeated prospects".

:crafty:

Erratic
03-01-2008, 01:58 AM
If Fraud ever goes down to a snow white German, who throws a "backtwist / counter elbow combination to the throat, and Mayweather is counted out, on his knees, struggling to breathe with laryx damage, :laughing: I'm sure all Fraud's groupies will say the same thing, "No big deal, we are used to that, fare is fare, all hail our great p4p number 1 European champion, I am already a fan" :laughing: "May he have a long and successful reign, doing the same thing against all our undefeated prospects".

:crafty:

When was the last time you ever saw anyone get KO'd from an elbow?

KaukipRrr
03-01-2008, 03:24 AM
When was the last time you ever saw anyone get KO'd from an elbow?

:nono: Uh,........that's not the point, BUT ok here we go,.........what about a backtwist elbow counter to the throat, that brings Fraud's gloves to his neck, and allows the German to hit Fraud crisply on the temple, the point being that essentially, the foul, or perhaps, multiple fouls, helped the European enemy get the KO.

Do Fraud groupies calmly say "Well I would have to be a hypocrit to complain about this, so, full credit to our delightful ethnic neighbours".....:lol: :crafty:

I think it's wrong to conveniently lay down and die and say "everybody does it" or to just say that to soften Fraud's actions, there should be extreme focus on all of these chronic felons, wether they're from Hatton, Fraud, Cotto etc, referees need to be informed of what they're notorious for, and they must be dealt with promptly in the ring. It is ESPECIALLY worse,.. when sportswriters BEAUTIFY fouls, ie ..Backtwisting, as " a brilliant, masterful, slick and defensive technique"...:nono:

Roll With The Punches
03-01-2008, 03:46 AM
haha cool clips:lol:

some very dodgy calls by Cortez :notallthere:

meetthefeebles
03-01-2008, 09:26 PM
Unless it's really extreme, I don't see why people make a big deal out of illegal tactics.

You watch enough boxing and you get used to it.

Cotto attacks the body a lot so naturally some are going to stray low (especially when his opponent pulls his head down). Floyd uses his share of elbows and forearms, "OH NO!!".

When guys start fouling like Nigel Benn and Eusebio Pedroza then I have a problem.

I kind of agree, but I'd go the whole hog. That sort of business is PART of the the sport. Anyone whose ever been in any kind of decent gym will have been taught to throw groin shots, rabbit shots, gouging etc.

It really is all part of the game.

Sure, Floyd has an 'illegal' defense, but Hatton has an 'illegal' attack, and both guys knew it before they fought. Floyd adapted and Hatton didn't. That's just one of the reasons that the better man won.

Let's see who complains when Hops tried to beat Joe this way next month. Because I'm sure he will. And I for one will be MAJORLY pissed if Joe doesn't prepare for this sort of thing. It's boxing 1-0-1.

MTF

The Genius
03-01-2008, 10:25 PM
Floyd does use the elbow alot but Captain Elbow? :lol:

Tyler Durden
03-01-2008, 11:38 PM
Thought it was very interesting........


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Me and Kauki have been bitching about this for at least a year :bears: Glad people are catching on :clap:

Roll With The Punches
03-01-2008, 11:58 PM
Floyd does use the elbow alot but Captain Elbow? :lol:


i liked 'Karate Kid' :lol:

LOK
03-04-2008, 09:11 AM
i liked 'Karate Kid' :lol:

:lol:

mexican wedding shirt
03-04-2008, 09:43 AM
Those videos were funny. I too liked Karate Kid :lol:

As much as they exposed Floyd's dirty tactics, they exposed what a fucking terrible job Cortez did. I don't think he should be allowed to ref anymore. Floyd would do something wrong, and he'd warn Hatton. Preposterous.

Although Floyd would have beaten Hatton in Manchester, cortez did a shit job, and Floyd did a fucking lot of ducking below the waist, elbowing etc. He is at least as dirty as hatton. All hatton does wrong is hold really.