View Full Version : Does Nate Campbell have ANY Chance of Beating Juan Diaz???
REEDsART
03-03-2008, 11:06 AM
:dunno:
His_Royness
03-03-2008, 11:12 AM
proverbial puncher's chance... IMO
Buddy Rydell
03-03-2008, 11:24 AM
I said he has a chance, but yeah, it'd have to be a puncher's chance and he would have to swarm him right afterwards.
ArturoGatti
03-03-2008, 11:46 AM
yes, he does.
jaws1216
03-03-2008, 12:00 PM
I'm not sure who these Nate Campbell haters are that think he has no chance. Someone of his skill level is not a "lock" to lose against someone of Diaz' skill level. They are about equal IMO, with Diaz' activity and stamina being the thing that tips the fight in his favor. But apart from that, Campbell is live, against anyone at 135 really.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
03-03-2008, 12:07 PM
Campbell has the speed to give Diaz some problems early IMO. I think he will be discouraged in the second half of the fight after Diaz has hit him alot.
ArturoGatti
03-03-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm not sure who these Nate Campbell haters are that think he has no chance. Someone of his skill level is not a "lock" to lose against someone of Diaz' skill level. They are about equal IMO, with Diaz' activity and stamina being the thing that tips the fight in his favor. But apart from that, Campbell is live, against anyone at 135 really.:bears:
I also agree with rjjp4p. I think Campbell will take some early rounds, but Diaz will take over in the second half, winning a clear cut UD.
Campbell has had a good career for someone who only started boxing in his mid twenities.
REEDsART
03-03-2008, 12:33 PM
REED Poses this Question Because he's UNsure if Nate Campbell even has a "Punchers" Chance...
Nate was a GOOD Puncher @ 130, but He hasn't Really Carried his Power UP w/him to 135...
"However", Juan Diaz's Style WILL Provide Campbell w/AMPLE Opportunity to PROVE his Lightweight Punching Power...Either Way, We'll Get Our Answer EARLY...
Ultimately, REED Thinks Juan's PACE is a BAD RECIPE for a Lower Weight Fighter N his MID 30's...
REED:cool:
bigdawg
03-03-2008, 01:34 PM
This is a great fight on paper which support my claim that boxing is freakin exciting. Anyways Nate is gonna have to be on his "A" game and Diaz will have to have an off night for Nate to be successful. Diaz is just way too active/aggressive and comes to fight. It will be interesting to see if Nate can actually box and counter Diaz and make Diaz fight going backwards. This is easier said then done and Nate will be in over his head in this one. Again this is an exciting war and I can't wait to watch. I'll Holla 5000
D MAN
03-03-2008, 01:59 PM
He has ZERO chance. THey should just have the weigh-in and then declare Diaz the winner and go straight to the post-fight interviews.
He has ZERO chance. THey should just have the weigh-in and then declare Diaz the winner and go straight to the post-fight interviews.
:lol:
:bears:
I also agree with rjjp4p. I think Campbell will take some early rounds, but Diaz will take over in the second half, winning a clear cut UD.
Campbell has had a good career for someone who only started boxing in his mid twenities.
Agree, but he's also had a shitty career for someone who fought Casamayor on better than even terms so early in his career.
His_Royness
03-03-2008, 02:16 PM
I'm not sure who these Nate Campbell haters are that think he has no chance. Someone of his skill level is not a "lock" to lose against someone of Diaz' skill level. They are about equal IMO, with Diaz' activity and stamina being the thing that tips the fight in his favor. But apart from that, Campbell is live, against anyone at 135 really.
lol i'm far from a Nate hater i would be happy if he crushed Diaz because i like him better. Campell is just often so Judahesque for my taste and if he doesn't bring his A+ game as bigdawg suggested he will receive a beatdown.
steve_dave
03-03-2008, 03:55 PM
Maybe a 1/10 chance. Maybe.
Beyond the Grave
03-03-2008, 04:18 PM
Diaz is to quick for Campbell.I think Diaz has underrated defense too
lb 4 lb
03-03-2008, 08:53 PM
He has ZERO chance. THey should just have the weigh-in and then declare Diaz the winner and go straight to the post-fight interviews.:laughing: :laughing:
I'd give Nate a better chance if he was still in his prime but he's got a lot of milage on his odometer and Juan is peaking right now so I don't see Nate pulling off the upset and I even wonder how much Nate even believes in himself to win that fight.
Barristan
03-03-2008, 10:49 PM
Nate Campbell is a live underdog...A lot of what Diaz does can be minimized with educated movement and getting off first. Both of theses things Nate does very well. He can win this fight.
Diaz will be rolling burritos at Chipolte after this fight
lb 4 lb
03-03-2008, 11:07 PM
Nate Campbell is a live underdog...A lot of what Diaz does can be minimized with educated movement and getting off first. Both of theses things Nate does very well. He can win this fight.Nate never struck me as the smart, figure a guy out and execute a gameplan kind of guy.
Yep, I'm sure of it, I hate his chances.
Barristan
03-03-2008, 11:33 PM
Nate never struck me as the smart, figure a guy out and execute a gameplan kind of guy.
Yep, I'm sure of it, I hate his chances.
Theres nothing to figure out about Diaz...Hit him before the hits you and get the fuck out the way of his psycotic combinations.
Mitchell Kane
03-03-2008, 11:57 PM
Nate never struck me as the smart, figure a guy out and execute a gameplan kind of guy.
Yep, I'm sure of it, I hate his chances.
Did the "never" begin before or after the Robbie Peden fight? :lol:
Double L
03-04-2008, 12:15 AM
nate needs to not eve try to win rounds and just stduy up for the one shot on the chin that coud change his life.
Joe King
03-04-2008, 01:56 AM
Quickly edited after reading the result
Tam Tam
03-04-2008, 02:03 AM
Nate Campbell has a skill + maturity level of "Infant".
valdosta
03-04-2008, 02:13 AM
Nate Campbell is a live underdog...A lot of what Diaz does can be minimized with educated movement and getting off first. Both of theses things Nate does very well. He can win this fight.
Agreed. :bears:
meetthefeebles
03-04-2008, 11:44 AM
I choose whoever LOK doesn't...
ADDENDUM
he WILL beat Diaz
Nate, it appears, has sadly no chance whatsoever of beating Juan Diaz... :lol:
I choose whoever LOK doesn't...
ADDENDUM
Nate, it appears, has sadly no chance whatsoever of beating Juan Diaz... :lol:
just like Floyd was gonna get knocked out huh? :lol:
meetthefeebles
03-04-2008, 12:55 PM
just like Floyd was gonna get knocked out huh? :lol:
I'm only playing, Brother LOK... :popcorn:
Double L
03-04-2008, 01:02 PM
here's some questions that need answered if we're to decide whether or not Campbell has a shot:
1. does he hit harder than Freitas
2. is he more durable than Freitas
3. can he keep Diaz at bay with his jab - at least in spots?
4. will he stick out his chin and give Diaz his best shot like he did against Peden?
5. Can he stay off the ropes (i.e. will his stamina be good enough such that he can give movement throughout much of the fight).
based on these, i'd say he has little to no chance of winning.
lb 4 lb
03-04-2008, 04:53 PM
Did the "never" begin before or after the Robbie Peden fight? :lol:Before. Afterwards, it only strengthened my opinion.
LATIN KING
03-04-2008, 05:15 PM
I've seen good performances from Nate Campbell that made me think he can be a force at one time. But I've seen too many shitty performances that let me know he won't.
Juan Diaz will win by UD!
I've seen good performances from Nate Campbell that made me think he can be a force at one time. But I've seen too many shitty performances that let me know he won't.
Juan Diaz will win by UD!
didn't diaz fight Stinger ?
Xplosive
03-05-2008, 12:01 AM
He has no chance IMO. Campbell is crap!
KaukipRrr
03-05-2008, 12:12 AM
He has no chance IMO. Campbell is crap!
I sincerely disagree, you see you've got to c der vera
heg ra !.. :nono: on ,.. he doe ke b dy sho ll, and I nk he's in wit a gr at han o ian.
phonetap
03-05-2008, 11:29 AM
campbell has a chance...anyone who laces'em up and steps betwee the ropes has a chance however the more likely scenario is diaz wearing campbell down methodically throughout the fight.
Double L
03-05-2008, 12:44 PM
campbell has a chance...anyone who laces'em up and steps betwee the ropes has a chance however the more likely scenario is diaz wearing campbell down methodically throughout the fight.
the more likely scenario, should Obama be elected, is the utter collpase of the U.S. from within, followed by chaos and anarchy, even as Obama remains confident that "real" change can be achieved.
Real change "can" be achieved. And it's been happening slowly ever since the emergence of the United States. but change like the change he's talking about? in the course of four years? It's radical. And it will destroy our country. And it's why he's in a no win situation. If he is elected, he'll be assassinated, but the more likely scenario is that he will not, and thank God, we'll not be subjected to his wild and naive idealism.
phonetap
03-05-2008, 01:15 PM
the more likely scenario, should Obama be elected, is the utter collpase of the U.S. from within, followed by chaos and anarchy, even as Obama remains confident that "real" change can be achieved.
Real change "can" be achieved. And it's been happening slowly ever since the emergence of the United States. but change like the change he's talking about? in the course of four years? It's radical. And it will destroy our country. And it's why he's in a no win situation. If he is elected, he'll be assassinated, but the more likely scenario is that he will not, and thank God, we'll not be subjected to his wild and naive idealism.
what the fuck? :doh:
REEDsART
03-05-2008, 01:33 PM
what the fuck? :doh:DOUB has Fallen Fuuuuuuurther into DRUG & ALCOHOL Addiction...His Posts & TYPING have Become More & MORE Erratic Over the Last Couple Months...
REED:lol:
mexican wedding shirt
03-05-2008, 03:25 PM
DOUB has Fallen Fuuuuuuurther into DRUG & ALCOHOL Addiction...His Posts & TYPING have Become More & MORE Erratic Over the Last Couple Months...
REED:lol:
I'm not sure why, but I get the distinct impression that Double is a fake, and the retarded illegible posts he's been creating are contrived and fake.
I think he's never done any drugs ever, and has no alcohol problem whatsoever. Just a hunch.
REEDsART
03-05-2008, 03:44 PM
I'm not sure why, but I get the distinct impression that Double is a fake, and the retarded illegible posts he's been creating are contrived and fake.
I think he's never done any drugs ever, and has no alcohol problem whatsoever. Just a hunch.Nah...
DOUB is VERY Serious about his Boxing Thoughts & Opinions...AND he FREQUENTLY Corrects Posters on Spelling, Punctuation & Whatnot...
REED has NO Doubt that DOUB has Been EXTREMELY Drunk, High or BOTH Lately...
REED:lol:
the more likely scenario, should Obama be elected, is the utter collpase of the U.S. from within, followed by chaos and anarchy, even as Obama remains confident that "real" change can be achieved.
Real change "can" be achieved. And it's been happening slowly ever since the emergence of the United States. but change like the change he's talking about? in the course of four years? It's radical. And it will destroy our country. And it's why he's in a no win situation. If he is elected, he'll be assassinated, but the more likely scenario is that he will not, and thank God, we'll not be subjected to his wild and naive idealism.
way to keep on topic there double bubble
maybe next time, hit "reply" before you pound your shots so you are at least in the right thread when you reply in your drunken stuppor
lb 4 lb
03-05-2008, 05:49 PM
I'm not sure why, but I get the distinct impression that Double is a fake, and the retarded illegible posts he's been creating are contrived and fake.
I think he's never done any drugs ever, and has no alcohol problem whatsoever. Just a hunch.It's the true sign of a troll which Double no doubt is. Once they find themselves an over the top identity they stick to it and inflate it's characteristics to the point where they get banned or ridiculed right off the board.
REEDsART
03-05-2008, 05:57 PM
It's the true sign of a troll which Double no doubt is. Once they find themselves an over the top identity they stick to it and inflate it's characteristics to the point where they get banned or ridiculed right off the board.:lol:
HONESTLY, REED has Known of DOUB for Roughly 7 Years Now...Traded Tapes w/the Guy & All That...REED has DOUB's Mailing Address & Vice Versa....
Bottom Line, he's a GOOD Guy...AND, DOUB CARES Tooooooo Much for Boxing to B a TROLL...
He's just Having a BAD Streak of Posts, as of Now...He'll Bounce Back...
REED:cool:
Double is the man.. I actually like when he gets tanked and cant spell and posts in the wrong threads:bears:
phonetap
03-05-2008, 07:59 PM
:lol:
HONESTLY, REED has Known of DOUB for Roughly 7 Years Now...Traded Tapes w/the Guy & All That...REED has DOUB's Mailing Address & Vice Versa....
Bottom Line, he's a GOOD Guy...AND, DOUB CARES Tooooooo Much for Boxing to B a TROLL...
He's just Having a BAD Streak of Posts, as of Now...He'll Bounce Back...
REED:cool:
yup...phonetap has known the guy a long time as well...remember his first alias which was his real last name. phonetap (along with a few others) used to make fun of it all the time until he changed it to "Double L". there are 2 L's in double last name and thus the moniker...:lol:
Irish98
03-05-2008, 08:35 PM
Double L is Roboto.
Xplosive
03-05-2008, 09:10 PM
yup...phonetap has known the guy a long time as well...remember his first alias which was his real last name. phonetap (along with a few others) used to make fun of it all the time until he changed it to "Double L". there are 2 L's in double last name and thus the moniker...:lol:
Loveland.
ArturoGatti
03-05-2008, 10:14 PM
Double L is Roboto.:lol:
Matchup_Analyzer
03-05-2008, 11:00 PM
I got Campbell by stoppage
Double L
03-06-2008, 01:15 AM
DOUB has Fallen Fuuuuuuurther into DRUG & ALCOHOL Addiction...His Posts & TYPING have Become More & MORE Erratic Over the Last Couple Months...
REED:lol:
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
but rEED don't judge.:lol:
Double L
03-06-2008, 01:19 AM
Double is the man.. I actually like when he gets tanked and cant spell and posts in the wrong threads:bears:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
hey i cut it upith my chic las moth -cut me some slack.apologies to all. have you know - work has never gone better though so at least the desrtuction for now is minaly physical.
Donnybrook
03-07-2008, 05:45 AM
Absolutely, he has a shot.
Matter of fact, he's live.
If he's in the right frame of mine, he can stand and trade with Diaz - and find the openings and land big shots. He could actually even make Juan gunshy.
It's all mental with Nate.
But he's got the tools to beat Diaz, sure.
Peace.
steve_dave
03-07-2008, 03:50 PM
I still can't get over the fact that Campbell was stopped in the Peden REMATCH.
LATIN KING
03-07-2008, 04:11 PM
I still can't get over the fact that Campbell was stopped in the Peden REMATCH.I can't believe he cried after he got kod :lol:
Tam Tam
03-07-2008, 04:29 PM
Absolutely, he has a shot.
Matter of fact, he's live.
If he's in the right frame of mine, he can stand and trade with Diaz - and find the openings and land big shots. He could actually even make Juan gunshy.
It's all mental with Nate.
But he's got the tools to beat Diaz, sure.
Peace.
It's all technical, talent deprived and retardation....with Nate.
Looks like Ronnie Shields isnt training Juan Saturday.
Talk about bad karma
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12989
StingerKarl
03-07-2008, 11:01 PM
Won't make a difference anyway, Mike.
I thought Juan looked his best in the Diaz fight under Derwin.
Campbell is getting a beatdown here and stopped, though he will sting Juan once or twice with sucker shot right hands coming in.
Donnybrook
03-08-2008, 05:13 AM
Campbell is live, live, live in this one.
It should be a great fight.
valdosta
03-08-2008, 11:57 PM
Agreed. :bears:
:bears: Like I said, yes he was .
plrraz
03-09-2008, 12:39 AM
At least he didnt quit on his stool like it looked like he would after the ninth round...you wouldve had to disown him...
WAR GALAXXY WARRIOR!!!:lol:
Won't make a difference anyway, Mike.
I thought Juan looked his best in the Diaz fight under Derwin.
Campbell is getting a beatdown here and stopped, though he will sting Juan once or twice with sucker shot right hands coming in.
REEDsART
03-09-2008, 12:47 AM
Nice Thread, REED...
REED:doh:
Explosivo
03-09-2008, 12:49 AM
Great fight. Nice win for Campbell,...good learning experience for Diaz.
Both fighters will never be top echelon.
I still can't get over the fact that Campbell was stopped in the Peden REMATCH.
campbell was dead at the weight for that bout
Explosivo
03-09-2008, 01:07 AM
campbell was dead at the weight for that bout
Exactly.
Campbell is a much better fighter today than he ever was at 130.
boxerpuncher
03-09-2008, 01:29 AM
Where did all of the expert analysts go? :lol:
meetthefeebles
03-09-2008, 01:36 AM
I told you all
Good call brother LOK... :bears: :bears:
Tam Tam
03-09-2008, 02:17 AM
Jesus fucking christ. Big shock. :doh:
slystaff
03-09-2008, 02:36 AM
he WILL beat Diaz:clap:
ArturoGatti
03-09-2008, 02:54 AM
yes, he does.:bears:
REEDsART
03-09-2008, 02:58 AM
What's REALLY FUNNY is how the PRO Nate Campbell Votes CONTINUE to ESCALATE, AFTER the Fight...
REED:lol:
ArturoGatti
03-09-2008, 02:58 AM
:laughing:
mexican wedding shirt
03-09-2008, 09:27 AM
He has ZERO chance. THey should just have the weigh-in and then declare Diaz the winner and go straight to the post-fight interviews.
DMAN is right on the money as per usual :lol:
meetthefeebles
03-09-2008, 09:49 AM
DMAN is right on the money as per usual :lol:
:laughing:
meetthefeebles
03-09-2008, 09:50 AM
What's REALLY FUNNY is how the PRO Nate Campbell Votes CONTINUE to ESCALATE, AFTER the Fight...
REED:lol:
At least there aren't peeps trying to pick Juan Diaz... :lol:
ArturoGatti
03-09-2008, 11:52 AM
DMAN is right on the money as per usual :lol: He doesen't just pick the wrong fighter, he predicts the exact opposite of what actually happens.
mexican wedding shirt
03-09-2008, 12:05 PM
He doesen't just pick the wrong fighter, he predicts the exact opposite of what actually happens.
Exactly, he's rapidly demonstrated himself as perhaps the single worst "prediction artist" on fightbeat.
He's also picked Judah against everyone he's ever faced :lol:
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