JLC HAVING TROUBLE MAKING WEIGHT AGAIN

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& this time it's for the 140lb division:doh: . I can't believe he went back there, he could barely make 147. So now that he can't bully the little guys around by outweighing them and subsequently gets his ass kicked at welterweight, he comes back down to 140 where the odds are he'll be too weight drained to win there either. What a waste, makes me question the guys whole career.

[dymipepel]

& this time it's for the 140lb division:doh: . I can't believe he went back there, he could barely make 147. So now that he can't bully the little guys around by outweighing them and subsequently gets his ass kicked at welterweight, he comes back down to 140 where the odds are he'll be too weight drained to win there either. What a waste, makes me question the guys whole career.

The guy is a cheater, plain and simple. JLC weighed 165 lbs during the night he fought PBF the first time around (mind you, PBF still defeated him). His official weight the day before was 135.
There's no way he could've ballooned 30 pounds in 24 hours. And since we KNOW that JLC is the kind of scumbag who's been caught attempting to cheat the scale, it is safe to assume he weighed around 150 the day before he fought PBF.
By the way, did anyone notice that all of Double's favorites (JLC, ODLH) are scale-cheaters?

[LATIN KING]

The guy is a cheater, plain and simple. JLC weighed 165 lbs during the night he fought PBF the first time around (mind you, PBF still defeated him). His official weight the day before was 135.
There's no way he could've ballooned 30 pounds in 24 hours. And since we KNOW that JLC is the kind of scumbag who's been caught attempting to cheat the scale, it is safe to assume he weighed around 150 the day before he fought PBF.
By the way, did anyone notice that all of Double's favorites (JLC, ODLH) are scale-cheaters?Just curious, do you describe Corrales the same way? You know since he was also caught cheating. Or those he get a pass since he passed away? :popcorn:

[REEDsART]

@ this Point, Castillo Should Move Up to HEAVYWEIGHT or Retire...


REED:rolleyes:

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Just curious, do you describe Corrales the same way? You know since he was also caught cheating. Or those he get a pass since he passed away? :popcorn:When did Chico get caught cheating? Also he moved up 2 weight classes when his body couldn't handle the cutting anymore, although admittedly he didn't live long enough to know how long or how successfully he would have maintained it.

[Neil]

I noticed a different trend. whenever flufferL is stuck in a rehab stint, castillo is caked up with a semen backlog and subsequently has difficulties cutting the weight

[Erratic]

Just curious, do you describe Corrales the same way? You know since he was also caught cheating. Or those he get a pass since he passed away? :popcorn:

I don't know of Corrales and his team getting caught trying to manipulate the scales like Castillo did.

[ILLUMINATI]

Just curious, do you describe Corrales the same way? You know since he was also caught cheating. Or those he get a pass since he passed away? :popcorn:

not making weight is NOT cheating....

Corrales couldn't make weight....Castillo couldn't make weight...and try to cheat on the scales....difference....

[dymipepel]

Just curious, do you describe Corrales the same way? You know since he was also caught cheating. Or those he get a pass since he passed away? :popcorn:

When did Corrales get caught trying to cheat, while weighing-in? :dunno:

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Okay guys I think that's enough. I'm sure everyone is well aware LatinKing was talking out of his ass.
:lol:

[ElTerriblee]

Who is Castillo fighting?

[LATIN KING]

when did Corrales get caught cheating? - it had to be asked again :lol:


I know Castillo's doctor got caught with the foot on the scale and Corrales didn't.

I meant cheating in the public's opinion. For years both guys were kililng themselves to make 135 when they really belonged at higher weight classes.

I remember Castillo got alot of shit even before he was caught cheating. when he didn't make weight twice he was not only labeled as a cheater for getting caught but because he had bee taking advantage of the smaller fighters at 135 for years.

I think corrales' situation was similar. The difference is his doctor didn't put his foot on the scale. But like Castillo he killed himself to make 135 until he couldn't get away with it anymore.

That is all. :popcorn:

[KaukipRrr]

not making weight is NOT cheating....

Corrales couldn't make weight....Castillo couldn't make weight...and try to cheat on the scales....difference....

:nono: Uh uh uh, dear tongue of the snake, they're both fuckin' cheatin for being blue whales in bantam divisions, think Cotto at 140, and his GRUUUUEEELLLLERRRRRR against Moor'lignaggi, :lol: gruuuuueeeeelllllerrrrr

[Erratic]

when did Corrales get caught cheating? - it had to be asked again :lol:


I know Castillo's doctor got caught with the foot on the scale and Corrales didn't.

I meant cheating in the public's opinion. For years both guys were kililng themselves to make 135 when they really belonged at higher weight classes.

I remember Castillo got alot of shit even before he was caught cheating. when he didn't make weight twice he was not only labeled as a cheater for getting caught but because he had bee taking advantage of the smaller fighters at 135 for years.

I think corrales' situation was similar. The difference is his doctor didn't put his foot on the scale. But like Castillo he killed himself to make 135 until he couldn't get away with it anymore.

That is all. :popcorn:

I think it's inaccurate when people say a fighter (P. Williams, Hopkins, Corrales, Castillo, etc...) "cheats" by making weight and being bigger in the ring, provided he fairly makes the weight.

It's just a flaw in the system, but they're still following the rules.

If a guy really doesn't make the weight like a Gatti-Gamache debacle, or Castillo's team trying to rig the scales, or if the questionable situations with Top Rank scales were indeed some shady business going on....then that's different.

The weigh-in procedures are something that should be fixed in boxing.

I find it rather ridiculous to have a junior welterweight title bout take place when one guy (Cotto) weighs 157 and the other weighs (Corley) 140, or a welterweight title bout with one guy (Baldomir) outweighing his opponent 162 to 149 (Mayweather), and so forth.

The point of weight classes is to have guys of equal size fight each other.

[LATIN KING]

I think it's inaccurate when people say a fighter (P. Williams, Hopkins, Corrales, Castillo, etc...) "cheats" by making weight and being bigger in the ring, provided he fairly makes the weight.

It's just a flaw in the system, but they're still following the rules.

If a guy really doesn't make the weight like a Gatti-Gamache debacle, or Castillo's team trying to rig the scales, or if the questionable situations with Top Rank scales were indeed some shady business going on....then that's different.

The weigh-in procedures are something that should be fixed in boxing.

I find it rather ridiculous to have a junior welterweight title bout take place when one guy (Cotto) weighs 157 and the other weighs (Corley) 140, or a welterweight title bout with one guy (Baldomir) outweighing his opponent 162 to 149 (Mayweather), and so forth.

The point of weight classes is to have guys of equal size fight each other.I agree with all that. I also agree that if a guy makes weight there is no problem.

At the same time when you follow boxing for a while you can tell when a guy is too big for a weight class and is clearly taking advantage of his size.

In Castillo and Corrales there was a time when they were fine at 135 but there was also a time when they were too big. Hell I remember when Castillo cheated and they negotiated for a higher weight for the rematch. Corrales actually was heavier going into the ring. Which shows how much heavier he was going to be during the fight.

He was just weak from trying to make the weight. But it still showed that neither guy should even be trying to make 135, aside from each other all the other guys were naturally smaller and were getting destroy by both Castillo and Corrales.

Hell remember when Oscar fought at 130 and 135? But seriously if he wanted he could have tried to fight there for longer. Le'ts say if the money fights were there at the time. He would have had a huge size advantage. But we all know he wasn't a natural super featherweight. :lol:

[Tam Tam]

WHat Corrales did for years, was not cheat, but follow the rules. Cheaters, are those who break the rules, not follow them.

[LATIN KING]

WHat Corrales did for years, was not cheat, but follow the rules. Cheaters, are those who break the rules, not follow them.so you think boxers actually take advantage of weight classes?

you don't see anything wrong with a guy going 10-15 pounds in a day while the other guy is naturally from that weight?:dunno:

When Calderon fought Cazares at 108 Calderon went from 105 to 108. come fight night Cazares was 130. Sure he made the weight but clearly he didn't belong there and had a crazy advantage.

what is the point in making weight when your gonna put on another 20 pounds the day after? :lol:

[Tam Tam]

so you think boxers actually take advantage of weight classes?

you don't see anything wrong with a guy going 10-15 pounds in a day while the other guy is naturally from that weight?:dunno:

When Calderon fought Cazares at 108 Calderon went from 105 to 108. come fight night Cazares was 130. Sure he made the weight but clearly he didn't belong there and had a crazy advantage.

what is the point in making weight when your gonna put on another 20 pounds the day after? :lol:
The rules are the same for everybody. Its that simple. If you're a "natural" for a division, maybe you aren't sweating enough off.

If you want to offer an alternative? Fine, go right ahead. But this is the system we have and it's the same for EVERYONE. If you make weight, you're not cheating. Simple as that.

[LATIN KING]

The rules are the same for everybody. Its that simple. If you're a "natural" for a division, maybe you aren't sweating enough off.

If you want to offer an alternative? Fine, go right ahead. But this is the system we have and it's the same for EVERYONE. If you make weight, you're not cheating. Simple as that.dude your full of shit avoiding the point.

I know what the rules are. but that wasn't my point to begin with. If two guys make the weight at 135 and one goes up 15 pounds on fight night. Then your not seeing two lightweights go at it. The weight come fight night is what should count because it's the weight you are fighting at.

I don't have an answer but I won't pretend like it's not a problem.

If your gonna tell me that's the rules don't bother with a reply I clearly read that in your last two posts. It doesn't change the fact that some fighters take advantage of the weight classes.

Maybe you would like boxing without weight classes since the mismatches in weight don't bother you. :dunno:

[Tam Tam]

dude your full of shit avoiding the point.

I know what the rules are. but that wasn't my point to begin with. If two guys make the weight at 135 and one goes up 15 pounds on fight night. Then your not seeing two lightweights go at it. The weight come fight night is what should count because it's the weight you are fighting at.

I don't have an answer but I won't pretend like it's not a problem.

If your gonna tell me that's the rules don't bother with a reply I clearly read that in your last two posts. It doesn't change the fact that some fighters take advantage of the weight classes.

Maybe you would like boxing without weight classes since the mismatches in weight don't bother you. :dunno:
What the fuck is your point in the first place? That its cheating to play by the rules? I don't even know what you're bitching about now, or making up.

Some fighters take advantages of weight classes? :lol: WTF does that even mean? If you're making weight easy, maybe you aren't in the right class. Drop down in weight and 'take advantage of a weight class' :lol: (so stupid) Ever think about that?

[LATIN KING]

What the fuck is your point in the first place? That its cheating to play by the rules? I don't even know what you're bitching about now, or making up.

Some fighters take advantages of weight classes? :lol: WTF does that even mean? If you're making weight easy, maybe you aren't in the right class. Drop down in weight and 'take advantage of a weight class' :lol: (so stupid) Ever think about that?two guys make weight, one goes up 20 pounds come fight night. Nothing wrong with that? are you retarded or you just act like one? :dunno:

it's pretty simple. but maybe not for the simple minded :popcorn:

This topic comes up everytime a fighter goes up 15 pounds come fight night. stop acting like I make it up. Do you even watch boxing? :laughing:

[mexican wedding shirt]

The point he is trying to make Latin King, is that if you make the weight legitimately, at then official weigh in, you're not breaking the rules. And he is correct.

Everyone boils down like a sponge, and fills up again after the weigh in with fluids, creatine, steaks etc. That's part of the game now.

As long as yo make the weigh in legimiately, you're not cheating.

Yes it is a concern that boxers can blow up in weight like that, but it's part of the game now, as long as they make the weigh in, they are not cheating.

If you fought at you're walking around weight, you'd be putting yourself at a severe disadvantage to other boxers.

Simple as that.

[valdosta]

I remember Erik Morales gaining 13 pounds and MAB gaining nothing for the 3rd fight. 143 to 130, who won that fight? Funny enough Rafael Marquez came into the ring against Mauricio Pastrana that night weighing 133 pounds. The guy weighed more than MAB did. :lol: Regardless, there no breaking of the rules and nothing can really be done about it.

[ElTerriblee]

So do we like Bradley? Castillo is done imho, and if he struggles to make weight the Bradley guy could win, if he is any good.

[Tam Tam]

Bradley was the favourite, last I checked.

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The point he is trying to make Latin King, is that if you make the weight legitimately, at then official weigh in, you're not breaking the rules. And he is correct.

Everyone boils down like a sponge, and fills up again after the weigh in with fluids, creatine, steaks etc. That's part of the game now.

As long as yo make the weigh in legimiately, you're not cheating.

Yes it is a concern that boxers can blow up in weight like that, but it's part of the game now, as long as they make the weigh in, they are not cheating.

If you fought at you're walking around weight, you'd be putting yourself at a severe disadvantage to other boxers.

Simple as that.Yeah, but LatinKing has a point too. Boxing is supposed to put evenly matched guys against each other and the only reason they don't have same day weigh ins (which would fix this problem) is because fighters would cut weight regardless and would only be that much more in danger of getting hurt or killed.

[Tam Tam]

But nothing is ever equal. Do you complain that some guys have access to better sparring partners or trainers? That some fighters have a heavier punch, or quiker hands? No. Being able to cut weight effetively is a skill and its part of the sport now days.

You guys could bitch about anything if you tried hard enough.

[ElTerriblee]

Bradley was the favourite, last I checked.

Haven´t seen any odds yet. :dunno:

[Tam Tam]

Haven´t seen any odds yet. :dunno:
I saw Castillo @ +118 about two weeks ago, somewhere. Remember thinking at the time "something seems fishy here".

[CleanYourClock]

when did Corrales get caught cheating? - it had to be asked again :lol:


I know Castillo's doctor got caught with the foot on the scale and Corrales didn't.

I meant cheating in the public's opinion. For years both guys were kililng themselves to make 135 when they really belonged at higher weight classes.

I remember Castillo got alot of shit even before he was caught cheating. when he didn't make weight twice he was not only labeled as a cheater for getting caught but because he had bee taking advantage of the smaller fighters at 135 for years.

I think corrales' situation was similar. The difference is his doctor didn't put his foot on the scale. But like Castillo he killed himself to make 135 until he couldn't get away with it anymore.

That is all. :popcorn:

Wouldn't that just make him heavier ??

[Black Market Baby]

Corrales couldn't cheat...




























Death.

[Tam Tam]

:nono: too soon.

[Double L]

castillo has mad skills and uncanny timing. pbf's hand-speed was no match for his countering abilities and body punching.

and he beat the hell out of ngoudju.

did it ever occur to you guys that he just doesn't have a very professional training regiment? as opposed to the alternate and more widely held belief that he's some sort of cheating middle-weight beating up on light-weights?

how many times must i repeat the list of humungous light-weights he's taken on and beaten?

Lazcano
Reyes (weighted over 150 for their fight)
PBF (currently campaigning as a welter-weight and looking pretty naturally doing so)
Duran
Julio Diaz

All these guys either do or will fight at 140 or above eventually. In fact, if you watch Julio Diaz fight at 135, its plainly obvious that one of his biggest problems is how weakened he is by making the weight.

[Xplosive]

castillo has mad skills and uncanny timing. pbf's hand-speed was no match for his countering abilities and body punching.

and he beat the hell out of ngoudju.

did it ever occur to you guys that he just doesn't have a very professional training regiment? as opposed to the alternate and more widely held belief that he's some sort of cheating middle-weight beating up on light-weights?

how many times must i repeat the list of humungous light-weights he's taken on and beaten?

Lazcano
Reyes (weighted over 150 for their fight)
PBF (currently campaigning as a welter-weight and looking pretty naturally doing so)
Duran
Julio Diaz

All these guys either do or will fight at 140 or above eventually. In fact, if you watch Julio Diaz fight at 135, its plainly obvious that one of his biggest problems is how weakened he is by making the weight.

Yeah, which explains why Floyd beat him TWICE.:rolleyes:

Remove your lips from Castillo's dick, and stopping making excuses for him getting bent in half by Hatton.

[Double L]

Yeah, which explains why Floyd beat him TWICE.:rolleyes:

Remove your lips from Castillo's dick, and stopping making excuses for him getting bent in half by Hatton.

at best, he beat him 1,25 times. and Hatton's just a hacking cheat - he's always gonna beat a guy a he's allowed to hold and hit - hell he would've put PBF in the ground had it not been for Cotrez and his diligence.

[LOK]

at best, he beat him 1,25 times. and Hatton's just a hacking cheat - he's always gonna beat a guy a he's allowed to hold and hit - hell he would've put PBF in the ground had it not been for Cotrez and his diligence.

Double.. I'm one of your biggest fans.. but I gotta agree with Explosive here.. you are riding Cass's cock big time

if Cortez had not been there.. HAtton would have gotten KO'd earlier..

Hatton folded your lover in half with a body shot.. nothing to do with holding.. he just could not take Hatton's shot..

[Double L]

Hatton gets in there and mauls by way of cheating tactics. It's how he beat Tszyu. And it's how he beat Castillo. He never would've landed that shot had he been made to follow the rules.

And if he'd been allowed to hold and hit PBF all night, there's not telling what the outcome would've been PBF probably still would've won just by virtue of his hand-speed, but bear in mindm, it's tough to hit a guy clean who plants his head in your chest holds one of your arms and pounds away with the other.

Watch the Tackie fight - Hatton was absolutely out-gunned. So what did he do? He grappled his way to a deceptive decision.

[LOK]

Hatton gets in there and mauls by way of cheating tactics. It's how he beat Tszyu. And it's how he beat Castillo. He never would've landed that shot had he been made to follow the rules.

And if he'd been allowed to hold and hit PBF all night, there's not telling what the outcome would've been PBF probably still would've won just by virtue of his hand-speed, but bear in mindm, it's tough to hit a guy clean who plants his head in your chest holds one of your arms and pounds away with the other.

Watch the Tackie fight - Hatton was absolutely out-gunned. So what did he do? He grappled his way to a deceptive decision.

I agree 100% Hatton is a Cheating Euro bastard..

But the hook to the body that made your gay lover quit was a legit shot

[Double L]

I agree 100% Hatton is a Cheating Euro bastard..

But the hook to the body that made your gay lover quit was a legit shot


:lol:

[mexican wedding shirt]

He didn't hold Castillo with his right and then thump in the left did he? No, he manoeuvred himself into position, picked his spot, and wham - sunk that beauty in. It was as legit as it came, and just folded Castillo in half.

I understand you like Castillo double, and that objectivity isn't one of your strong points, but to debate that knockout - well it's just absurd, preposterous, and retarded.

[*Z*]

Castillo tasted the power of Casper, looked around for a soft place to lay down and quit like a homo.

[IMDAZED]

Weight drained, overweight, whatever - he's got his hands full Saturday night. This may be the night he retires.

[KaukipRrr]

Yeah, which explains why Floyd beat him TWICE.:rolleyes:

http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif I agree, if Fraud didn't have two dislocated shoulder sockets, 10 broken fingers and 3 ruptured kidneys, Fraud would have easily ran, elbowed and backtwisted his way to a very, very, close decision.

[Tam Tam]

Castillo is all but irrelevant now anywho. I doubt he retires this weekend though. He stries me as the kind of guy who's going to be fighting for a while, even if he doesn't matter.

Afterall, what does this fight do for him? Fighting an undefeated prospect? He doesn't even seem to care, if he's still a division away from the weight limit.

[ElTerriblee]

Castillo is all but irrelevant now anywho. I doubt he retires this weekend though. He stries me as the kind of guy who's going to be fighting for a while, even if he doesn't matter.

Afterall, what does this fight do for him? Fighting an undefeated prospect? He doesn't even seem to care, if he's still a division away from the weight limit.

It´s a WBC eliminator, and some bookie give me +100 on Bradley already.:warning:

[Tam Tam]

can I have that guys number?

[Mitchell Kane]

He's at 147.5 with 24 hours to go before the official weigh-in.

And Samuel Peter weighed 250.

[Double L]

teAH THERE'SO NABY EXANOLES OF FUGHTERS CSCIMUNG YRREEKVABE ADEQW CETBD GUKS XE XXUSEueK udfn rtve

[valdosta]

Someone should just ban that fool. He's doing that worthless shit on purpose.

[Tam Tam]

Agreed. Attention whore's are easy to spot. Maybe he needs a break.

[Tam Tam]

And the point of you posting yet another worthless picture, is....?

[Donnybrook]

Jesus.

Either fight at 147 or '54....or retire.

Peace.

[Tam Tam]

I juat hope the fight is still a go. It's important for Bradley and another beating for Castillo can't be a bad thing.

[valdosta]

In fairness to Castillo the weigh in today meant nothing. Depending on how hard he's been training he can get 7 pounds off. Even I can get 5 pounds off in a day (water weight of course).

[mexican wedding shirt]

Someone should just ban that fool. He's doing that worthless shit on purpose.

Yep, I've been saying this since he started that crap.

[Ugotabe Kidding]

WHat Corrales did for years, was not cheat, but follow the rules. Cheaters, are those who break the rules, not follow them.

Diego Corrales and the Raiders of The Lost Mouthpiece:popcorn:

[LOK]

teAH THERE'SO NABY EXANOLES OF FUGHTERS CSCIMUNG YRREEKVABE ADEQW CETBD GUKS XE XXUSEueK udfn rtve

Free Double L Translation = "yeah, there's no explanation of fighters coming... ??????????

F it, he lost even me here:lol:

[Erratic]

Did Castillo think he was supposed to make 147 instead of 140?

[Arben]

Um, isn't it in the WBC rules to be 7lbs over one week before the fight? If you're over 7lbs two days before the fight, shouldn't they do something about it?

[Antwuan Maxx]

http://www.fightnews.com/castilloweight.jpg


Weight KOs Castillo again!

Former world champion Jose Luis Castillo has pulled out of his WBC junior welterweight eliminator with #1 rated Timothy Bradley on Saturday night's Maskaev-Peter undercard in Cancun. Castillo said stomach pains prevented him from losing the final three pounds required to make the 140lb limit. "I am very sorry, I feel depleted," stated Castillo. "I think it would be for the best. I don't want for anything in the world to hurt this sport....last night I had increasingly intense pains and my trainer and the doctor suggested I cancel the fight for my own safety." Castillo and his team returned this afternoon to Mexicali.


Surprise, surprise.

[steve_dave]

Castillo should never be in a main event again.... he should never even be the B-side to the fight people are paying to go watch. He has pulled this shit way too much.

[joony]

pathetic.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Yes, pathetic. Either move up to 147 or retire like Gatti did.

Even if Castillo is an idiot himself, I'm surprised his team are stupid and unprofessional enough to sign a 140 pound fight then pull this bollocks.

[LATIN KING]

Yes, pathetic. Either move up to 147 or retire like Gatti did.

Even if Castillo is an idiot himself, I'm surprised his team are stupid and unprofessional enough to sign a 140 pound fight then pull this bollocks.I blame Arum and Suleiman. They are the ones hooking him up since he's been part of the WBC familiy. They are the ones banking on him making weight again at 140.

[Tam Tam]

I blame Arum and Suleiman. They are the ones hooking him up since he's been part of the WBC familiy. They are the ones banking on him making weight again at 140.
No. They'll match him at whatever weight the fighter says they can make. Arum and Suleiman aren't the one's who suddenly can't make a weight they made last fight out.

Castillo is lazy. Stomach bug. :lol:

[Antwuan Maxx]

I blame Arum and Suleiman. They are the ones hooking him up since he's been part of the WBC familiy. They are the ones banking on him making weight again at 140.

Dan Rafael said Arum had nothing to do with Castillo fighting (well supposedly fighting) this weekend.

[D MAN]

Castillo tasted the power of Casper, looked around for a soft place to lay down and quit like a homo.

LOL :lol:

[Mitchell Kane]

This will actually be a very good development if it quickly leads to Junior Witter-Timothy Bradley.

[Tam Tam]

Good for who? Bradley hasn't faced anybody yet. At least with Castillo, he'd have had a decent workout against a very solid pro. Witter beats Bradley and what does it mean? There's no way he deserves a shot at a title yet, IMO.

[Mitchell Kane]

Good for who? Bradley hasn't faced anybody yet. At least with Castillo, he'd have had a decent workout against a very solid pro. Witter beats Bradley and what does it mean? There's no way he deserves a shot at a title yet, IMO.

You're feelings on Bradley and Witter-Bradley are about the same as mine on Castillo and Bradley-Castillo. I don't think Castillo deserved to be in an eliminator and I'm not sure a win over him would have meant much of anything for Bradley (if he beat him).

If Witter-Bradley happens sooner because Castillo couldn't fight this weekend, I welcome the cancellation.

[Tam Tam]

Why so high on Bradley? I say again, whats he done? Castillo is easily more credible at this point in time, IMO. Regardless of his slothly attitude towards training camp.

[LATIN KING]

No. They'll match him at whatever weight the fighter says they can make. Arum and Suleiman aren't the one's who suddenly can't make a weight they made last fight out.

Castillo is lazy. Stomach bug. :lol:of course Castillo is to blame for not making weight.

But they are responsible for making the fights happen. with Castillo's history and recently being kod by Haton why would anybody bother putting him close to another tittle shot?

Clearly they are hooking him up with a tittle eliminator bringing him close to another tittle shot.

Suleiman has done this in the past he and Arum should know better.

Castillo telling someone he can make weight shouldn't be reason enough to wanna give him a contract. :lol:

[Mitchell Kane]

Why so high on Bradley? I say again, whats he done? Castillo is easily more credible at this point in time, IMO. Regardless of his slothly attitude towards training camp.

I don't know if I'm that high on Bradley, but I think beating Castillo at this point would probably be a formality and it's not like beating Castillo in any way prepares Bradley for Witter.

[Tam Tam]

I agree on that last part. Still, why would it be a 'formality'? I ask again, what as Bradley done for you to be so high on him?

[Mitchell Kane]

I agree on that last part. Still, why would it be a 'formality'? I ask again, what as Bradley done for you to be so high on him?

I agree with your opinion that Bradley hasn't earned his ranking, if that's what you're talking about but I think Castillo is a done fighter.

[Double L]

jlc destroys gatti at 135,140 and 147

[mexican wedding shirt]

jlc destroys gatti at 135,140 and 147

Yes, so?

[dymipepel]

jlc destroys gatti at 135,140 and 147

Gatti wipes his ass with Castillo at 140 or 147. Castillo hasn't defeated a single fighter of note at either one of these weights. Gatti would brutalize him, a-la Leija or Dorin.