View Full Version : "Watching Wlad v Ibragimov made me ashamed to be a boxer..." David Haye
meetthefeebles
03-04-2008, 11:23 PM
In amongst the usual pre-fight ramble for Saturday's huge 'All British' Cruiserweight World Unification title fight with Enzo Maccarinelli in London's O2 arena, some interesting point's from David Haye, who many will be aware plans to move up to HW, win or lose on Saturday (he had a fight scheduled with Hasim Rahman prior to agreeing terms with Werren to fight Enzo):
"David Haye believes Enzo Maccarinelli will be an easier fight than Jean Marc Mormeck - his last opponent.
Haye faces Maccarinelli in London on Sunday and the winner will be crowned undisputed cruiserweight champion.
And Haye feels that Maccarinelli has underestimated him despite his win over Mormeck, which saw him rise from the canvas to claim the WBC and WBA belts.
"They watched that fight, saw me knocked down, heard me complaining and thought 'let's get him'," said Haye.
Haye also revealed that despite the confident noises coming from Maccarinelli, the WBO title-holder, he does not expect him to represent a tougher challenge than Mormeck, who he beat in seven rounds in November.
"I've trained for a tougher fight than Mormeck, but I don't expect it," he said.
"If he doesn't realise how good I am, he's got a decent team around him so they must know. I just feel I am a better athlete than him."
It was one of the worst shows of a boxing match I've ever seen in my life
David Haye
Haye, 27, also reiterated his intention to move up to heavyweight after Saturday's fight.
The Londoner has made no secret of the problems he has had at making the cruiserweight limit and Haye was unimpressed with heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko's recent victory over Sultan Ibragimov.
"Watching it, I was ashamed to be a boxer," said the 27-year-old Haye. "It was one of the worst shows of a boxing match I've ever seen in my life.
"If that's the best I've got to worry about then I might be heavyweight champion quicker than I think.
"Showtime are screening my fight with Maccarinelli in the States, so the Americans will be able to see the future of heavyweight boxing over the next few years."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7278050.stm
Can't knock the lad for saying it like it is, huh?
Does anyone whose actually seen Haye fight think he has a shot in what is a pretty awful H/W division right now?
MTF :popcorn:
ElTerriblee
03-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Well nobody will give Haye a chance in hell against Wlad, but at the right odds I´d lay money on Haye to land the first big punch and then it´s lightsout for Wlad.
Mitchell Kane
03-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Saying he's "future of heavyweight boxing" is saying it like it is?
Tam Tam
03-04-2008, 11:41 PM
:lol: @ Haye. His future is a short one.
meetthefeebles
03-04-2008, 11:49 PM
Saying he's "future of heavyweight boxing" is saying it like it is?
I was refering to the 'Wlad fight was boring' part. I thought the thread title might have indicated this also? :dunno:
meetthefeebles
03-04-2008, 11:51 PM
:lol: @ Haye. His future is a short one.
I'm not so sure.
In any era of decent HW's, Haye wouldn't have much of a hope or prayer. But in this one, he'd be live against 90% of those currently out there, at worst IMO.
I'd definitely have given him a live chance against that lump Hasim Rahman.
I don't think he beats Wlad though, obviously... :lol:
Tam Tam
03-04-2008, 11:57 PM
Rahman? Does he even still fight? I can think of at least 15 heavyweights better than that guy right now and I only know of 16 in total.
ElTerriblee
03-05-2008, 12:00 AM
I'm not so sure.
In any era of decent HW's, Haye wouldn't have much of a hope or prayer. But in this one, he'd be live against 90% of those currently out there, at worst IMO.
I'd definitely have given him a live chance against that lump Hasim Rahman.
I don't think he beats Wlad though, obviously... :lol:
Rahman is totally washed-up. He should be target numero uno, if you think your prospect can walk in a straight line.
Mitchell Kane
03-05-2008, 12:50 AM
I was refering to the 'Wlad fight was boring' part. I thought the thread title might have indicated this also? :dunno:
Oh, so that's why you bolded this line: "If that's the best I've got to worry about then I might be heavyweight champion quicker than I think."
meetthefeebles
03-05-2008, 01:00 AM
Oh, so that's why you bolded this line: "If that's the best I've got to worry about then I might be heavyweight champion quicker than I think."
Well, you see. I emboldened the first part as it was relevant to the title of the thread. I emboldened the second part as it was relevant to the debate which has herein been sparked after I then went on to ask:
Does anyone whose actually seen Haye fight think he has a shot in what is a pretty awful H/W division right now?
The thread would have been incredibly docile and pointless if it was simply 'David Haye said the Wlad fight was shit' and no more, would it not?
Imo, it will be better for boxing if the guy sticking around cruiserweight wins. It would suck to get 3/4 belts unified and then run away to greener pastures.
meetthefeebles
03-05-2008, 01:12 AM
Imo, it will be better for boxing if the guy sticking around cruiserweight wins. It would suck to get 3/4 belts unified and then run away to greener pastures.
Agreed. In this respect, it would be much better for Mac to win come Saturday...
salaco
03-05-2008, 02:05 AM
Haye talks plenty of shit but I like how he'll jump at any challeneg that is put in front of him, if he beats maccarinelli,l he will have made the only two fights at cruiserweight that I care about (sorry USS)...he shows up in shape, he's got a personality, has power and is vulnerable enough to have me tuning in whenever he fights...war haye!!11
Azazel
03-05-2008, 05:34 AM
Wlad-Ibragimov was the most shamefull fight by far I have ever witnessed. At least, with the Bite, you had something to talk about.
mexican wedding shirt
03-05-2008, 07:43 AM
It really was. I'm glad I didn't persuade my girlfriend to stay up and watch it.
I'm not sure why people like ElTerrible think he would have a chance of KOing wlad though, sure he is a big puncher at cruiserweight but he IS a cruiserweight.
Why do you guys think he'll still be able to bang like that at heavy? He'll be an undersized heavy.
He's 6'3, but pretty slender.
Although I would be rooting for the Hayemaker I would have to pick Wlad by KO in the first 3 rounds.
REEDsART
03-05-2008, 10:21 AM
Never SEEN Haye, but REED Already Likes his MOXIE...
REED:clap:
Arben
03-05-2008, 10:21 AM
I'm a big David Hayter, but he's right. I was ashamed to be a fan that night.
Mean Mr Mustard
03-05-2008, 11:37 AM
Haye would beat Klitschko purely on the basis that the latter wouldn't be throwing much in the former's direction.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
03-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Hes gotta beat Macrenelli first. Saturday is gonna be a tough night for him.
Double L
03-05-2008, 12:40 PM
what i can't believe is that Wlad is famous. he should be shunned by the boxing community and made to fight in ballroom boxing.
Wlad had one bad fight. Why so much hate? Before that he KO'd 4 guys in a row. What other HW's are knocking out 4 top ten guys in a row? His last fight ws boring, but so is every Floyd Mayweather fight and he gets praised for it.
Haye will get his chinny ass stopped by Wlad easily.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
03-05-2008, 01:01 PM
Wlad had one bad fight. Why so much hate? Before that he KO'd 4 guys in a row. What other HW's are knocking out 4 top ten guys in a row? His last fight ws boring, but so is every Floyd Mayweather fight and he gets praised for it.
Haye will get his chinny ass stopped by Wlad easily.
Floyd gets way more hate then anybody else and his most boring fights are better then Wlads last fight.
Floyd gets way more hate then anybody else and his most boring fights are better then Wlads last fight.
Baldomir.
Double L
03-05-2008, 03:06 PM
just because a fighter manages to knock his opponent out in the end doesn't mean it wasn't a boring fight.
Attraction
03-05-2008, 03:14 PM
Never SEEN Haye, but REED Already Likes his MOXIE...
REED:clap:
you will like Haye a lot reed. I've seen every one of his fights and I am a huge fan. He will take on any challenge. I hope he blasts Macaroni into the canvas on sat.
Mean Mr Mustard
03-05-2008, 03:50 PM
you will like Haye a lot reed. I've seen every one of his fights and I am a huge fan. He will take on any challenge. I hope he blasts Macaroni into the canvas on sat.Yep - I'm in 100% agreement with Attraction here - put me down for a 'Haye-Maker' victory on Saturday....
Mean Mr Mustard
03-05-2008, 03:51 PM
Orthodox Crusader will probably be voting for Maccaroni to win.
royyjonesjrp4pno1
03-05-2008, 07:30 PM
Baldomir.No it wasn't. That was boring but no where near as boring as Wlads last fight.
:bears:
good stuff! I hope he knocks this bitch out and take the HW by storm!!!11111111111111111
mexican wedding shirt
03-05-2008, 07:59 PM
I'll be rooting for Haye too. I don't like Enzo. No real reason why, I just don't like him. I don't think he's anything special either.
He's alright, but I think Mormeck is better for example, so Haye should be able to bash Enzo.
dsimon3387
03-05-2008, 10:03 PM
dsimon writes:
Watched some of the mormeck Haye fight on Utube look under David Haye. Mormeck is an honest days work. He fights in spurts but during his spurts he can be pretty tough to deal with. Entertaining too, the Mormeck Bell fight, specifically the second one was a riot!
I hope David can establish himself. He's pretty young so he may be able to gain a few pounds en route to being a decent heavyweight. I haven't seen him fight (aside from the Mormeck fight) but I suspect he would need to get some better defense to deal with the bigger guys in the division, but he has time on his side... so maybe.
Double L
03-06-2008, 01:24 AM
i luv mormeck. wish de didn't lose. he was mean as shit.
Mean Mr Mustard
03-06-2008, 10:41 AM
I'll be rooting for Haye too. I don't like Enzo. No real reason why, I just don't like him. I don't think he's anything special either.
He's alright, but I think Mormeck is better for example, so Haye should be able to bash Enzo.He's Welsh.
meetthefeebles
03-06-2008, 01:15 PM
Hes gotta beat Macrenelli first. Saturday is gonna be a tough night for him.
Actually, that's the first thing I thought when I read the article...
meetthefeebles
03-06-2008, 01:17 PM
Orthodox Crusader will probably be voting for Maccaroni to win.
He is indeed.
I have a twenty quid bet riding on Saturday's fight which says the 'Hayemaker' sparks Enzo the fuck out. OC thinks the reverse.
Attraction
03-06-2008, 01:18 PM
He is indeed.
I have a twenty quid bet riding on Saturday's fight which says the 'Hayemaker' sparks Enzo the fuck out. OC thinks the reverse.
Who cares what he thinks? great that he is abanned he was awful
good riddance!!
:cheer:
meetthefeebles
03-06-2008, 01:20 PM
you will like Haye a lot reed. I've seen every one of his fights and I am a huge fan. He will take on any challenge. I hope he blasts Macaroni into the canvas on sat.
Very true- that's one of the main reason's I like him so much.
He did what not many have done recently and went to the champion's home ring and won his belts by KHTFO. Then, despite his clearly wanting to move up to HW, Enzo challenged him and he immediately made it happen.
Fighter's who do this are quite few and far between now-a-days. That's why Haye will always be held in high esteem by me, no question... :bears:
meetthefeebles
03-06-2008, 01:21 PM
Who cares what he thinks? great that he is abanned he was awful
good riddance!!
:cheer:
I still want my twenty quid off him...:nono:
Ugotabe Kidding
03-06-2008, 03:49 PM
Haye would not make his fight against WLad boring, that is for sure. He would open up and go after Wlad As a result, he gets streched very very quickly. There is a reason why Sultan did not open up you now
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