View Full Version : KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA?
cupey alto
03-06-2008, 12:36 PM
HOLLYWOOD, FL, March 6 - It could have been the biggest super middleweight fight of 2008, a pitched battle between a former world champion and perhaps the most exciting warrior in the game today. But despite offers to hold the bout in a neutral location and significant offers from both HBO and Showtime for the television rights to the bout, Mikkel Kessler seems to have decided to tuck his tail between his legs and walk away from a lucrative showdown with the feared ‘Pantera’, Edison Miranda.
“Viking Warrior?” asked Miranda, referring to the former super middleweight champion’s nickname. “Kessler should turn his horned helmet in after disgracing such a tribe of true fighters. He talks like a fighter, has tattoos like he’s a tough guy, but when it comes down to being a real fighter, he’s not even worthy of carrying my gloves.”
http://fightbeat.com/news_details.php?NW=21276
With both HBO and Showtime interested in the fight and a neutral site being offered, I don't see why on earth Kessler wouldn't take the fight.
Looks like he just doesn't want to fight Miranda.
Double L
03-06-2008, 01:15 PM
maybe he's afraid of gettingkg KTFO. or, maybe he's in negotiations with Pavlik, or the winner of White Sloppy/Black Sloopy.
Attraction
03-06-2008, 01:18 PM
please
Double L
03-06-2008, 01:25 PM
please
please what. 1st of all, it's one side of the story and it's not the first guy Miranda's accused of ducking him in highly vocal fashion. what i don't get is, Miranda seems like an easy fight for Kessler - he'd probably beat him cleaner than Pavlik did.
oh, btw, anyone else fuind it interesting that Pavlik said the Miranda fight was a harder fight for him than the Taylor fight? I'm telling you, the only way to beat Pavlik is to fight him inside. And Taylor just cab';t fight inside for shit.
REEDsART
03-06-2008, 01:28 PM
This is a CRUCIAL Stage of Kessler's Career...Many N the Boxing Business just ASSume he's Gonna Take Over the Supermiddle Division w/Calzaghe Leaving...
But REED is of the Opinion that the Division is WIDEfuckingOPEN...
A Win Over Miranda would ESTABLISH Kessler as the LEADER of the Supermiddle Pack...But NEGLECTING to Fight Miranda will Pretty Much SHIT on ANY Goodwill Kessler had Built Up, Prior to Facing Calzaghe...
Who Knows, Maybe he LOST his Heart the Night Calzaghe Beat him???....
REED:dunno:
meetthefeebles
03-06-2008, 01:38 PM
This is a CRUCIAL Stage of Kessler's Career...Many N the Boxing Business just ASSume he's Gonna Take Over the Supermiddle Division w/Calzaghe Leaving...
But REED is of the Opinion that the Division is WIDEfuckingOPEN...
A Win Over Miranda would ESTABLISH Kessler as the LEADER of the Supermiddle Pack...But NEGLECTING to Fight Miranda will Pretty Much SHIT on ANY Goodwill Kessler had Built Up, Prior to Facing Calzaghe...
Who Knows, Maybe he LOST his Heart the Night Calzaghe Beat him???....
REED:dunno:
I for one would be surprised if Mikkel has chosen not to fight Miranda. I'd expect him to win handily, because for all that Miranda hits hard and whatnot, he's limited in truth and Kessler should be able to simply box his head off...
I disagree, however, that Kessler needs to beat Miranda to emerge as 'leader of the supermiddle-weight pack'. He already is that. He cleaned out everyone accused Joe of ducking prior to losing to Calz (Beyer, Andrade, Mundine etc). His stock needs to fall much further, IMO, for his status as the premier SMW in Joe's apparent absence to be in serious repute.
Kessler fought everyone there was to fight, including Joe in Wales. There has been question of him ducking anyone to date, has there? :dunno:
It's quite possible that he's lost a little bit of confidence after losing to Joe. It's always hard for a fighter to come straight back after losing for the first time, and his camp may think that it's a bit early for him to go straight back in with a live threat. A confidence boosting tune up before Miranda may be the thinking in the Kessler camp...
It will be interesting to see where Mikkel goes from here, certainly. His next two/three fights will show whether he was all many (me included) think he is, or whether or not he just wasn't all that...
MTF
REEDsART
03-06-2008, 02:16 PM
I for one would be surprised if Mikkel has chosen not to fight Miranda. I'd expect him to win handily, because for all that Miranda hits hard and whatnot, he's limited in truth and Kessler should be able to simply box his head off...
I disagree, however, that Kessler needs to beat Miranda to emerge as 'leader of the supermiddle-weight pack'. He already is that. He cleaned out everyone accused Joe of ducking prior to losing to Calz (Beyer, Andrade, Mundine etc). His stock needs to fall much further, IMO, for his status as the premier SMW in Joe's apparent absence to be in serious repute.
Kessler fought everyone there was to fight, including Joe in Wales. There has been question of him ducking anyone to date, has there? :dunno:
It's quite possible that he's lost a little bit of confidence after losing to Joe. It's always hard for a fighter to come straight back after losing for the first time, and his camp may think that it's a bit early for him to go straight back in with a live threat. A confidence boosting tune up before Miranda may be the thinking in the Kessler camp...
It will be interesting to see where Mikkel goes from here, certainly. His next two/three fights will show whether he was all many (me included) think he is, or whether or not he just wasn't all that...
MTFThe Thing is, there's a NEW Crop of Talent @ 168...Beyer & Andrade Never Did Much for REED & Mundine has Always Been HIT or MISS...
w/Guys like Miranda, Allan Green, Jean Pascal & Jermain Taylor Now N the Mix, REED Isn't SURE that Kessler's THE Guy...He's LIMITED, but even Jeff Lacy is Still a PLAYER N the Division...Andre Ward is Floating N & Out of the Division & Steadily INCREASING his Level of Comp...
Basically, Kessler's Starting from Square ONE N REED's Opinion...Calzaghe will Likely VACATE Pretty Soon, Leaving a Shitload of Belts Out there to B Gobbled Up...
REED:cool:
Attraction
03-06-2008, 02:46 PM
The Thing is, there's a NEW Crop of Talent @ 168...Beyer & Andrade Never Did Much for REED & Mundine has Always Been HIT or MISS...
w/Guys like Miranda, Allan Green, Jean Pascal & Jermain Taylor Now N the Mix, REED Isn't SURE that Kessler's THE Guy...He's LIMITED, but even Jeff Lacy is Still a PLAYER N the Division...Andre Ward is Floating N & Out of the Division & Steadily INCREASING his Level of Comp...
Basically, Kessler's Starting from Square ONE N REED's Opinion...Calzaghe will Likely VACATE Pretty Soon, Leaving a Shitload of Belts Out there to B Gobbled Up...
REED:cool:
:lol:
Joe King
03-06-2008, 02:51 PM
I think Kessler would destroy Miranda and should take the fight.
REEDsART
03-06-2008, 03:21 PM
:lol::dunno: :dunno:
He's Still a NAME & a Fairly Significant MONEY Fight for just about Anybody @ 168...
REED:cool:
Double L
03-06-2008, 03:28 PM
This is a CRUCIAL Stage of Kessler's Career...Many N the Boxing Business just ASSume he's Gonna Take Over the Supermiddle Division w/Calzaghe Leaving...
But REED is of the Opinion that the Division is WIDEfuckingOPEN...
A Win Over Miranda would ESTABLISH Kessler as the LEADER of the Supermiddle Pack...But NEGLECTING to Fight Miranda will Pretty Much SHIT on ANY Goodwill Kessler had Built Up, Prior to Facing Calzaghe...
Who Knows, Maybe he LOST his Heart the Night Calzaghe Beat him???....
REED:dunno:
not if HOpkins beats Sloppy and then Kessler beats Hopkins. don't forget - styles make fights. Hopkins throws 20 punhes a round at the most.
KaukipRrr
03-06-2008, 03:37 PM
Calzaghe will Likely VACATE Pretty Soon, Leaving a Shitload of Belts Out there to B Gobbled Up...
Disagree a bit with the rest of the post, but I like this bit, I like the way it sounds I do.
Double L
03-06-2008, 04:04 PM
solid fundamentals, in the absence of RJJesque speed, and length, is what it takes to beat Hopkins.
Kessler probably has his fingers crossed that B-hop prevails.
solid fundamentals, in the absence of RJJesque speed, and length, is what it takes to beat Hopkins.
Kessler probably has his fingers crossed that B-hop prevails.
You really think Hopkins would fight Kessler if he won? Not a chance.
valdosta
03-06-2008, 04:13 PM
This is a Warriors press release, lets see if there's any response.
REEDsART
03-06-2008, 04:19 PM
solid fundamentals, in the absence of RJJesque speed, and length, is what it takes to beat Hopkins.
Kessler probably has his fingers crossed that B-hop prevails.What INCENTIVE is there for Bernard to Face Kessler???:dunno:
Kessler's Now BeltLESS & he's "Known" for LOSING to Calzaghe...
REED:cool:
Mitchell Kane
03-06-2008, 04:21 PM
This is a CRUCIAL Stage of Kessler's Career...Many N the Boxing Business just ASSume he's Gonna Take Over the Supermiddle Division w/Calzaghe Leaving...
But REED is of the Opinion that the Division is WIDEfuckingOPEN...
A Win Over Miranda would ESTABLISH Kessler as the LEADER of the Supermiddle Pack...But NEGLECTING to Fight Miranda will Pretty Much SHIT on ANY Goodwill Kessler had Built Up, Prior to Facing Calzaghe...
Who Knows, Maybe he LOST his Heart the Night Calzaghe Beat him???....
REED:dunno:
A win over Bute would do it, not Miranda.
A win over Bute would do it, not Miranda.
I think Miranda is a perfect choice coming off his loss to Calazaghe. Kessler should win and Miranda is known here in the US. Good exposure and a winnable fight.
Tam Tam
03-06-2008, 04:40 PM
What happened to Miranda v Roy Jones of Canada?
What happened to Miranda v Roy Jones of Canada?
Roy Jones of Canada?
Mitchell Kane
03-06-2008, 04:50 PM
I think Miranda is a perfect choice coming off his loss to Calazaghe. Kessler should win and Miranda is known here in the US. Good exposure and a winnable fight.
Miranda's a name, but if we're talking about Kessler clearly establishing himself as the "leader" of the new division, I don't think Miranda's scalp would mean as much.
A fight with Jermain Taylor would mean more exposure than Miranda, and Bute would go farther in terms of proving himself as the best in the division.
Kessler's top 5 in three organizations that Calzaghe has belts...so if he relinquishes he would have options.
dsimon3387
03-06-2008, 05:10 PM
dsimon writes:
I would like to hear Kessler's side of the story frankly. I mean one could just assume Kessler does not like to fight black people, but that would be a stretch.:lol:
seriously I could see a couple of reasons for Kessler's decision. He may feel like Miranda is not important and that if he fought Miranda he would be associated with the loser's club ( Pavlik and Calzighes left overs). He may feel like it is a dangerous fight with no rewards. Miranda is a solid second teire guy in many people's minds but he can crack. He may want a rematch with a champion, like the winner of the hops Calzighe fight.... depending on how he feels about his loss to Joe. If I were him I would feel like a dumbass who got mindfucked out of my title frankly.
Finally he might have gotten beat up worse than people think. The guy projects a certain fragility that modern scandinavians harber.... I mean most people in this country, unless they grew up in a remote area have gotten at one point or another a nice ass whippin. But in a lot of places even fighters have not gotten a first class ass whuppin.... and Kessler looks like he is sensative, so maybe he will take the slow road for a while.
Mitchell Kane
03-06-2008, 05:15 PM
dsimon writes:
I would like to hear Kessler's side of the story frankly. I mean one could just assume Kessler does not like to fight black people, but that would be a stretch.:lol:
seriously I could see a couple of reasons for Kessler's decision. He may feel like Miranda is not important and that if he fought Miranda he would be associated with the loser's club ( Pavlik and Calzighes left overs). He may feel like it is a dangerous fight with no rewards. Miranda is a solid second teire guy in many people's minds but he can crack. He may want a rematch with a champion, like the winner of the hops Calzighe fight.... depending on how he feels about his loss to Joe. If I were him I would feel like a dumbass who got mindfucked out of my title frankly.
Finally he might have gotten beat up worse than people think. The guy projects a certain fragility that modern scandinavians harber.... I mean most people in this country, unless they grew up in a remote area have gotten at one point or another a nice ass whippin. But in a lot of places even fighters have not gotten a first class ass whuppin.... and Kessler looks like he is sensative, so maybe he will take the slow road for a while.
Miranda's lower than him in 3 of 4 rankings...so what exactly does Kessler get out of a Miranda fight other than being on HBO?
It's hard to imagine HBO or Showtime would only be interested in Kessler if he fights Miranda...especially when Showtime's going to televise Froch-Inkin.
Miranada's a fighter whose lost two middleweight title fights...so I'm not sure how much beating him at 168 proves.
Tam Tam
03-06-2008, 05:18 PM
One middleweight title fight. But he has lost to two of the titlists.
Even still, Miranda and his camp obviously overrate where their boy is at. While he's been fighting on ESPN in front of 10 maybe 15 people this last year, all Kessler done is fight in front of sold out crowds in Europe and rake in zillions in PPV revenue.
joony
03-06-2008, 05:21 PM
What happened to Miranda v Roy Jones of Canada?
miranda said he was no longer interested in that fight right after knocking out banks.
i'm surprised miranda hasn't called out taylor.
Mitchell Kane
03-06-2008, 05:21 PM
One middleweight title fight. But he has lost to two of the titlists.
Even still, Miranda and his camp obviously overrate where their boy is at. While he's been fighting on ESPN in front of 10 maybe 15 people this last year, all Kessler done is fight in front of sold out crowds in Europe and rake in zillions in PPV revenue.
Yeah, forgot about the Pavlik fight being an eliminator.
ElTerriblee
03-06-2008, 05:50 PM
The Thing is, there's a NEW Crop of Talent @ 168...Beyer & Andrade Never Did Much for REED & Mundine has Always Been HIT or MISS...
w/Guys like Miranda, Allan Green, Jean Pascal & Jermain Taylor Now N the Mix, REED Isn't SURE that Kessler's THE Guy...He's LIMITED, but even Jeff Lacy is Still a PLAYER N the Division...Andre Ward is Floating N & Out of the Division & Steadily INCREASING his Level of Comp...
Basically, Kessler's Starting from Square ONE N REED's Opinion...Calzaghe will Likely VACATE Pretty Soon, Leaving a Shitload of Belts Out there to B Gobbled Up...
REED:cool:
I have an idea, Kessler will bother with them, when they beat a top 20 supermiddleweight. Okay nobody should say I´m exaggerating Lacy fought one or two. :lol:
Octopus
03-06-2008, 05:57 PM
Roy Jones of Canada?
I think he means Bute??
Octopus
03-06-2008, 06:00 PM
dsimon writes:
Finally he might have gotten beat up worse than people think.
I think it's a combo of that and he may feel Miranda is too much of a risk for his very first fight back since losing to Calzaghe!!
Joe fucks people up more than many even realize:nono:
ElTerriblee
03-06-2008, 06:07 PM
I think it's a combo of that and he may feel Miranda is too much of a risk for his very first fight back since losing to Calzaghe!!
Joe fucks people up more than many even realize:nono:
Kessler had an operation done on his hand immediately after the Calzaghe fight, and hasn´t put gloves on in three months. Who knows how bad his hand is/was and when he´ll return, but he´ll probably test the waters against a lesser opponent.
KaukipRrr
03-06-2008, 06:11 PM
Edison should not want Taylor anymore, not after he nearly knocked out Miranda's big scary white daddy-long legs:lol: , and pushed him all the way to a very, very, very close verdict in the rematch. Jermaine said after Pavlik wiped his arse with the Colombian scrub, that he expected Miranda to submit a NEW video humbly apologising for the DARING manner inwhich he spoke of him. Jermaine only improves now from here on out, I give him a good chance against Kessler if he fights to the best of his abilities, a good chance against anyone infact, Calzaghe, Pavlik again, Dawson, I think he beats Arabham, and shot Roy, and he shuts out his original son, Bernard Hopkins.
KaukipRrr
03-06-2008, 06:13 PM
I think he means Bute??
Jean Pascal.
Jean Pascal.
Pascal wouldn't take a fight with anyone who can punch after his last fight. :lol:
Mitchell Kane
03-06-2008, 06:27 PM
Edison should not want Taylor anymore, not after he nearly knocked out Miranda's big scary white daddy-long legs:lol: , and pushed him all the way to a very, very, very close verdict in the rematch. Jermaine said after Pavlik wiped his arse with the Colombian scrub, that he expected Miranda to submit a NEW video humbly apologising for the DARING manner inwhich he spoke of him. Jermaine only improves now from here on out, I give him a good chance against Kessler if he fights to the best of his abilities, a good chance against anyone infact, Calzaghe, Pavlik again, Dawson, I think he beats Arabham, and shot Roy, and he shuts out his original son, Bernard Hopkins.
Dibella wants Taylor to have a set up fight and then Jones Jr. pay per view in the fall.
Octopus
03-06-2008, 06:31 PM
Jean Pascal.
That's right,Pascal:lol:
bigdawg
03-06-2008, 07:00 PM
All I know is that Kessler needs to get his ass back in the ring. I mean he can't ride that I gave Joe Calzaghe a tough fight forever. Now he might not have to fight Miranda but he needs to fight a name fighter and stop feeling sorry for himself. It aint like he ko'd or anything so he can't use that as an excuse. Just pull yourself up by the boot straps and go get ur juice back! I'll Holla 5000
bigdawg
03-06-2008, 07:11 PM
To be honest what a better way to gain some juice back then to take a fight against the allegedly hard nose big mouth Miranda. I mean JT could have taken the easy way out and not rematched Pavlik but he did. So why should the "heir apparent" be given a pass. I'll Holla 5000
bigdawg
03-06-2008, 07:17 PM
To be honest what a better way to gain some juice back then to take a fight against the allegedly hard nose big mouth Miranda. I mean JT could have taken the easy way out and not rematched Pavlik but he did. So why should the "heir apparent" be given a pass. I'll Holla 5000
dsimon3387
03-06-2008, 07:20 PM
Miranda's lower than him in 3 of 4 rankings...so what exactly does Kessler get out of a Miranda fight other than being on HBO?
It's hard to imagine HBO or Showtime would only be interested in Kessler if he fights Miranda...especially when Showtime's going to televise Froch-Inkin.
Miranada's a fighter whose lost two middleweight title fights...so I'm not sure how much beating him at 168 proves.
dsimon writes:
True true.
I guess we should be happy for the integrity of the sport that a guy like Kessler does not fly through hoops just because HBO calls.
dsimon3387
03-06-2008, 07:23 PM
I think it's a combo of that and he may feel Miranda is too much of a risk for his very first fight back since losing to Calzaghe!!
Joe fucks people up more than many even realize:nono:
dsimon writes:
I don't know if its just my imagination but Kessler looked to me like he was psychologically very compromised in that fight. He looked like he could not do anything he intended, sort of confused and flabbergasted. It would not suprise me if Joe did more of a number on him than might be obvious. Sometimes the worse beatings are not physical.
cupey alto
03-06-2008, 09:59 PM
dsimon writes:
I don't know if its just my imagination but Kessler looked to me like he was psychologically very compromised in that fight. He looked like he could not do anything he intended, sort of confused and flabbergasted. It would not suprise me if Joe did more of a number on him than might be obvious. Sometimes the worse beatings are not physical.
Bernard Hopkins is about to do the same thing to Joe.
C
meetthefeebles
03-06-2008, 11:12 PM
dsimon writes:
I don't know if its just my imagination but Kessler looked to me like he was psychologically very compromised in that fight. He looked like he could not do anything he intended, sort of confused and flabbergasted. It would not suprise me if Joe did more of a number on him than might be obvious. Sometimes the worse beatings are not physical.
Good point
In light of this thread, I re-watched the Calzaghe-Kessler fight this evening (along with the legendary 'When We Were Kings'- I'll make a boxing fan out of the missus yet...), and Kessler seemed especially down-heartened afterwards. At the time I put it down to respect and disappointment, but in hindsight it may be a little more. :dunno:
For all of that, talk of Miranda and Taylor challenging for the ascendancy at 168 is very premature. Miranda has not beaten anyone worth a light at 168 yet, whilst Taylor has never even so much a FOUGHT there.
And as for Jeff Lacy...:lol:
meetthefeebles
03-06-2008, 11:13 PM
Bernard Hopkins is about to do the same thing to Joe.
C
Wrong
salaco
03-07-2008, 12:09 AM
If Miranda's management say it, it must be true, he's not known for selling wolf tickets or calling out the division's top fighters on every two bit website.
Anyhow, I thought he wanted Abraham again last week, and Jean Paschal the week before (until he no longer looked impressive - yeah, I'm sure that was it). I'm taking a guess what he really wants is a high profile fight which will pay well :dunno:
dsimon3387
03-07-2008, 12:31 AM
Bernard Hopkins is about to do the same thing to Joe.
C
dsimon writes:
:bears: One things for sure Carlos.... whether Joe likes it or not, he aint gonna be throwing no 4000 punches a round and he is going to have to fight in a phone booth for some of the rounds. :lol:
Me? I don't think Joe is going to like that too much. :lol:
dsimon3387
03-07-2008, 12:36 AM
Good point
In light of this thread, I re-watched the Calzaghe-Kessler fight this evening (along with the legendary 'When We Were Kings'- I'll make a boxing fan out of the missus yet...), and Kessler seemed especially down-heartened afterwards. At the time I put it down to respect and disappointment, but in hindsight it may be a little more. :dunno:
For all of that, talk of Miranda and Taylor challenging for the ascendancy at 168 is very premature. Miranda has not beaten anyone worth a light at 168 yet, whilst Taylor has never even so much a FOUGHT there.
And as for Jeff Lacy...:lol:
dsimon writes:
Well you know.... If one were to look back carefully in boxing inevitably they would find that there were a lot of guys like Kessler through the ages. Guys who were solid well schooled fighters. When they met adversity some overcame and some did not. Kessler knows that whether he overcomes or not he has a nice looking Blonde Scandinavian wife and (one or two?) lovely daughter(s).... so its all good for him, he has made some cash. BUt if he wants to move on he just has to get past the Calzighe fight. I wouldn't hold it against him if he doesn't. But he may well just want a few cash out fights.
Xplosive
03-07-2008, 02:38 AM
I like Kessler, and I think he'd beat the fuck outta Miranda but now you have to wonder if the Calz loss took some of his confidence. He seemed pretty down after the fight.
Tam Tam
03-07-2008, 02:52 AM
Yeah, because some asshole PR man working for a bonafide helicopter (without a pilot) said so?
Give me a break. You can't duck an opponent whom you might very well kill in center ring.
valdosta
03-07-2008, 02:53 AM
I like Kessler, and I think he'd beat the fuck outta Miranda but now you have to wonder if the Calz loss took some of his confidence. He seemed pretty down after the fight.
Why because of a press release from the promoters of Miranda? :dunno:
valdosta
03-07-2008, 02:53 AM
Yeah, because some asshole PR man working for a bonafide helicopter (without a pilot) said so?
Give me a break. You can't duck an opponent whom you might very well kill in center ring.
:kick: beat me to it.
Xplosive
03-07-2008, 03:00 AM
Why because of a press release from the promoters of Miranda? :dunno:
Well lets see what happens. I'm not a fan of Miranda, but he's willing to fight anyone. I'm not saying Mikkel's ducking him until we hear Kessler's side of it, but its a fight that should happen. And if it does, I'm definitely picking Kessler to kick Miranda's ass.
Tam Tam
03-07-2008, 03:02 AM
Well lets see what happens. I'm not a fan of Miranda, but he's willing to fight anyone. I'm not saying Mikkel's ducking him until we hear Kessler's side of it, but its a fight that should happen. And if it does, I'm definitely picking Kessler to kick Miranda's ass.
Miranda has fought a grand total of THREE live bodies in his career. Good fighters, no doubt. In between that, he has ran his mouth and named every fighter from Ivan Calderon to Wlad Klitschko. BIG FUCKING DEAL. He has someone talented writing his stuff. Thats it.
Three decent opponents. The rest, trash.
meetthefeebles
03-07-2008, 11:19 AM
Well lets see what happens. I'm not a fan of Miranda, but he's willing to fight anyone. I'm not saying Mikkel's ducking him until we hear Kessler's side of it, but its a fight that should happen. And if it does, I'm definitely picking Kessler to kick Miranda's ass.
All agREED...
That's why I said I'd be surprised if this story has much credibility. I can't see a single good reason why Mikkel wouldn't box Edison's head off for as many rounds as this fight would last.
I wouldn't at all be surprised to see this fight happen late this year, I just think Mikkel might need to knock over a tomato can to prepare first. Joe pretty much took him apart in rounds 7-11 of their fight, and confidence could well still be an issue...
IMO Kessler is ducking no body at that weight Joe was streets ahead of them all and Kessler took him the distance.
Kessler will dominate the SM.
Matchup_Analyzer
03-07-2008, 11:56 AM
The only thing Kessler will duck is the windmill right hand of Miranda, then send the latter to the canvas with his own right hand
The only thing Kessler will duck is the windmill right hand of Miranda, then send the latter to the canvas with his own right hand
:bears:
Matchup_Analyzer
03-07-2008, 12:06 PM
Bernard Hopkins is about to do the same thing to Joe.
C
Not sure yet if he does that to Joe, but he sure did it to the Puerto Rican flag and Tito
bigdawg
03-07-2008, 01:46 PM
All I know is that Kessler needs to get back in the ring. He's had ample time to recover from his defeat. He needs to step up and take on a name fighter whether its Miranda or not. However if HBO was offering to air the fight he should jump on that immediatley. If I were him I would be calling out everybody and their mother so that I could redeem myself. And no I don't think that Joe took a lot out of him. It wasn't as if it was a war like chico/castillo, the marquez fight last week pavlik/taylor or even joe/lacy. If kessler's confidence is that shot he wasn't as good as many proclaimed him to be. The way u judge a champion is not how they do when they r winning but how they come back from adversity. Moral of the story he needs to get his ass back in the ring! I'll Holla 5000
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