Quintana-Williams II: Final Predictions

[Xplosive]

I gotta Quintana winning yet another 8-4 decision. Honestly, reading Paul Williams' interviews... the dude dont seem too bright. It seems he's a broken record when it comes to the first fight, staying non-stop "I just couldnt get into rhythm". Well duh! Genius! I just think Quintana is the more skilled, intelligent fighter and will win again.

[Matchup_Analyzer]

Quintana via stoppage late

[Double L]

williams wins easily

[royyjonesjrp4pno1]

I gotta go with Williams by decision this time.

[Hex-One]

Quintana by stoppage in the late rounds!


Quintana TKO10 Williams.:hammert:

[mexican wedding shirt]

williams wins easily

Stop being a fucking troll. You contribute nothing but bullshit these days, you nonce.

Quintana 8 rounds to 4, in a fight that looks very much like the first one.

[Joe King]

Stop being a fucking troll. You contribute nothing but bullshit these days, you nonce.


These days?

[Baron]

Stop being a fucking troll. You contribute nothing but bullshit these days, you nonce.

Quintana 8 rounds to 4, in a fight that looks very much like the first one.
He's praying Williams will win for obvious reasons... Antonio Margarito...

[Nobleart]

Williams by split decision.

[Double L]

Stop being a fucking troll. You contribute nothing but bullshit these days, you nonce.

Quintana 8 rounds to 4, in a fight that looks very much like the first one.

you wait and see who the "troll" is. you ding-bat. i'm not here to contribute. im here to confront the B.S. perspectives of people like you.

[Hex-One]

Williams has no chance in Hell!!!!!

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[Double L]

Williams has no chance in Hell!!!!!


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yeah because he was beaten so decisively in the first fight. get a grip. and prepare for Quintana descent into ESPN land.

[REEDsART]

1st of all, Picking Quintana by KO is WISHFUL Thinking...Quintana has RESPECTABLE Power but he ISN'T a Banger:nono:...& Paul Williams has a GOOD, Borderline GREAT Chin...

If Quintana was CAPABLE of KO'ing Williams he'd have Done it N the 1st Fight...

But Having Said that, REED Expects Quintana 2 1nce Again OUTBOX Williams Fairly Convincingly...Slightly CLOSER Decision w/Williams Saying he Got Robbed when he Really DIDN'T...


REED:hammert:

[*Z*]

It's going to be a close one I think. I think Quintana fought a great fight the first time and I think Williams has room to improve. I expect a tough fight and I will go out on a limb and say Williams regains his belt by close decision.

[Joe King]

I may be in the minority but I think that the beating Williams got will affect him both physically and psychologically. He really got owned in that fight. The only rounds he won were the ones Quintana took off.

[Mitchell Kane]

Outside of Williams having an off-night the first time around, it's hard to see how he wins this fight.

There's so many areas he can, and needs, to improve and there's little way of knowing if he has in the period between fights.

Chances are he needs more than a few months to make really dramatic changes.

[Double L]

he doesn't need dramatic changes to win. it was a close fight, and Williams was never hurt.

the only X-factor is whether or not Quintana will get away with holding Williams on the inside like he did in the first fight. That's basically how he managed to win - by stinking it out.

I can't believe some people are predicting a knock-out win by Quintana. :atu:

[Mitchell Kane]

he doesn't need dramatic changes to win. it was a close fight, and Williams was never hurt.

the only X-factor is whether or not Quintana will get away with holding Williams on the inside like he did in the first fight. That's basically how he managed to win - by stinking it out.

I can't believe some people are predicting a knock-out win by Quintana. :atu:

It was a close fight only because Quintana couldn't keep up his pace for 12 full rounds.

It's not like they were alternating rounds like DLH-Vargas or something.

[Xplosive]

he doesn't need dramatic changes to win. it was a close fight, and Williams was never hurt.

the only X-factor is whether or not Quintana will get away with holding Williams on the inside like he did in the first fight. That's basically how he managed to win - by stinking it out.

I can't believe some people are predicting a knock-out win by Quintana. :atu:

Why are you obsessed with supposed "stink"?

[Double L]

Why are you obsessed with supposed "stink"?

obsessed with it? isn't the better question to ask, "why do so many fighters get away with winning fights using stink?"

i think my alleged obsession with stink is just a reflection of the fact that so many fighters rely on it on a consistent basis to win fights. but in most cases, it's not legal, and nor is it impressive or even meaningful in my mind when a fighter wins by way of stink.

are you telling me Hatton didn't "stink" against Lazcano? or that Rahman doesn't "stink" in every fight he's in? or that Sergio Mora isn't a horrible stink-fighter and unbearable to watch? Or that Paulie didn't stink like shit against N'dou (a fight I thought he lost by the way)?

if i seem obsessed, it's because so many of the sport's supposed best fighters get the job done with stink. it shouldn't be allowed.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Williams didn't know how to cut off the ring after 30+ professional fights and isn't gonna learn how to in 4 months time. I say Quintana beats that ass again. More than likely by UD, but I wouldn't rule out a TKO. I think Quintana would have a good chance at stopping Paul on accumlation if he can regain the conditioning he had for the Julio fight. Dude fought outside in 100+ degree heat and at a pretty steady pace for the duration of the fight. Against Paul, he seemed to hit a wall around the half way mark, and began fighting in spurts. I agree with the poster who said the only rounds Paul won were the ones Quintana took off.

[whiskey]

Quintana's victory last time out was pretty decisive. You have to favor him to beat Williams.

Quintana will probably just look to fight the same fight. I mean, why wouldn't he?

It will be interesting to see what Williams brings to the table this time.

[ArturoGatti]

Williams by 8 rounds to 4.

[mexican wedding shirt]

you wait and see who the "troll" is. you ding-bat. i'm not here to contribute. im here to confront the B.S. perspectives of people like you.

BS perspectives? What the fuck are you on about?

Quintana schooled Williams, and you think Williams not only wins but "wins easy"?

How exactly? What's he going to do to make such a dramatic difference to the first fight? Bring a chainsaw?

You're a troll.

[Double L]

BS perspectives? What the fuck are you on about?

Quintana schooled Williams, and you think Williams not only wins but "wins easy"?

How exactly? What's he going to do to make such a dramatic difference to the first fight? Bring a chainsaw?

You're a troll.

and your perspective on things is clearly B.S. if you think Quintana "schooled" Williams. that's a ridiculous exaggeration, probably crafted in order to accommodate your black and white simplistic thought process.

[Joe King]

Quintana's victory last time out was pretty decisive. You have to favor him to beat Williams.


I thought I saw odds that made Quintana the underdog:lol::crafty:

[mexican wedding shirt]

and your perspective on things is clearly B.S. if you think Quintana "schooled" Williams. that's a ridiculous exaggeration, probably crafted in order to accommodate your black and white simplistic thought process.

He won 8 rounds to 4, and for most of those rounds outboxed Williams without breaking a sweat. It was a schooling, not a whitewash, but a schooling.

So tell me, why do you feel Williams beats Quintana easily in the rematch, when he didn't come close to doing that in the first fight? What's going to change?

[Xplosive]

obsessed with it? isn't the better question to ask, "why do so many fighters get away with winning fights using stink?"

i think my alleged obsession with stink is just a reflection of the fact that so many fighters rely on it on a consistent basis to win fights. but in most cases, it's not legal, and nor is it impressive or even meaningful in my mind when a fighter wins by way of stink.

are you telling me Hatton didn't "stink" against Lazcano? or that Rahman doesn't "stink" in every fight he's in? or that Sergio Mora isn't a horrible stink-fighter and unbearable to watch? Or that Paulie didn't stink like shit against N'dou (a fight I thought he lost by the way)?

if i seem obsessed, it's because so many of the sport's supposed best fighters get the job done with stink. it shouldn't be allowed.

Hatton indeed does use stink, not thats not how Quintana beat Williams. He beat Paul by lander BY FAR the cleaner shots, and by controlling the pace of the fight. Did he do some holding on the inside? Yeah, but thats part of the game. But it wasnt excessive at all. Quintana should in NO WAY be compared to Hatton.

[Tam Tam]

Williams is the firm betting favourite, so the people that know enough about the game to bet on this fight, are lined closer with Double L than any of the other "non-trolls".....so get a grip.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Williams is the firm betting favourite, so the people that know enough about the game to bet on this fight, are lined closer with Double L than any of the other "non-trolls".....so get a grip.

Yep, and these same bookies had Tito and Hamed as 4 to 1 favourites over Hopkins and Barrera, when I was 99% sure Nard and Barrera would prevail. So get a grip yourself :kidcool:

I have to say I am very, very surprised about the bookies on this though. I have no idea what their reasoning is. It's not like Williams was ill, or missing a limb etc. It was the same williams, quintana just had the style and the skill to beat him clearly.

I can't recall the last time a fighter lost a fight so decisively, to be made a favourite in the rematch.

[Erratic]

I'm thinking Williams watched the fight a few times and will make some adjustments. His defense may always be leaky though, especially against lefties.

I think it'll be similar (although closer) to the first fight where Quintana lands a lot of straight lefts, and that will be the difference.

Quintana by UD, 115-113 (2x), and 116-113.

[Joe King]

Hatton indeed does use stink, not thats not how Quintana beat Williams. He beat Paul by lander BY FAR the cleaner shots, and by controlling the pace of the fight. Did he do some holding on the inside? Yeah, but thats part of the game. But it wasnt excessive at all. Quintana should in NO WAY be compared to Hatton.


Yeah, that's comparing apples with :shit:

[Tam Tam]

Yep, and these same bookies had Tito and Hamed as 4 to 1 favourites over Hopkins and Barrera, when I was 99% sure Nard and Barrera would prevail. So get a grip yourself :kidcool:


Right, and do you think calling someone else names because they thought the same thing as the majority, would have been the thing to do? No. So don't be a dick. I don't like Double L any more than the next guy, but you've been a royal cock on this thread.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Right, and do you think calling someone else names because they thought the same thing as the majority, would have been the thing to do? No. So don't be a dick. I don't like Double L any more than the next guy, but you've been a royal cock on this thread.

Call him names? I didn't. I called him a troll, which is more of a factual statement than namecalling. My intention in this thread wasn't to cause a stir in the slightest, I'm not after a bout of smacktalking. I am just highlighting Double as the troll he is.

I don't even think he believes half the stuff he types these days, he just talks crap for the sake of it.

And most posters here, and most knowledgable fans are picking quintana. Double L thinking Willliams "wins easy" is hardly the majority vote.

Like I said, this is one of the most surprising bookie lines I've seen in a while actually.

Seriously - why do you think they have Williams as the favourite?

[Tam Tam]

Call him names? I didn't. I called him a troll, which is more of a factual statement than namecalling. My intention in this thread wasn't to cause a stir in the slightest, I'm not after a bout of smacktalking. I am just highlighting Double as the troll he is.

I don't even think he believes half the stuff he types these days, he just talks crap for the sake of it.

And most posters here, and most knowledgable fans are picking quintana. Double L thinking Willliams "wins easy" is hardly the majority vote.

Like I said, this is one of the most surprising bookie lines I've seen in a while actually.

Seriously - why do you think they have Williams as the favourite?
Because he was a 5-1 favourite last time out and fought a ridiculously silly fight. Do you think Williams can fight worse? Do you think Quintana can fight any better? I think the answer is 'No' to both, so I see it as a much tougher night at the office for Quintana.

He's only really had one of those and he quit. I think Williams wins this one.

[mexican wedding shirt]

I was impressed with quintana, no doubt. He looked good.

Could he do better? Sure, he could improve his stamina, workrate, and pacing.

Could williams have done any worse? A better question is, what could williams do so significantly better?

What did he do that was so out of the ordinary for him? He's not exactly a master boxer is he, what's he going to do this time, zip around the ring on his toes outjabbing and potshotting Quintana?

[valdosta]

I was impressed with quintana, no doubt. He looked good.

Could he do better? Sure, he could improve his stamina, workrate, and pacing.

Could williams have done any worse? A better question is, what could williams do so significantly better?

What did he do that was so out of the ordinary for him? He's not exactly a master boxer is he, what's he going to do this time, zip around the ring on his toes outjabbing and potshotting Quintana?

The line has actually gone up. The bookies didn't make a bad line because people bet Williams more than Quintana anyways. :lol:

[TKO]

I'm going to go with Quintana he has the 'eye of the tiger' :lol:

Williams reminds me of the modern day football player, he thinks he deserves it instead of working for it.

[Tam Tam]

williams wins easily

:bears:

Stop being a fucking troll. You contribute nothing but bullshit these days, you nonce.

Quintana 8 rounds to 4, in a fight that looks very much like the first one.

BS perspectives? What the fuck are you on about?

Quintana schooled Williams, and you think Williams not only wins but "wins easy"?

How exactly? What's he going to do to make such a dramatic difference to the first fight? Bring a chainsaw?

You're a troll.

:atu:

[ILLUMINATI]

ahhhh shit for the first TIME EVER..DOUBLE L was right about something....he will milk this to death...:doh::lol:

[Fade To Black]

Quintana by stoppage in the late rounds!


Quintana TKO10 Williams.:hammert:

for a year homey....

[Joe King]

:doh:for a year homey....


Damn Hex-One!!! I'm going to miss seeing your proverbs verse on there!!!! PM it to me and I'll put it on mine.

[mexican wedding shirt]

:bears:





:atu:

Double didn't even believe what he wrote, and you know that. He is nothing but a troll, who has his motives for picking fights, or bigging up, or slamming any given fighter - based around his little roster of fighters he liked. One of which being marge.

I was of course totally wrong in being confident of a quintana victory, but that has little relevance to double's pick that he didn't even believe himself, or you think marge beat williams.

[Tam Tam]

Double didn't even believe what he wrote, and you know that. He is nothing but a troll, who has his motives for picking fights, or bigging up, or slamming any given fighter - based around his little roster of fighters he liked. One of which being marge.

I was of course totally wrong in being confident of a quintana victory, but that has little relevance to double's pick that he didn't even believe himself, or you think marge beat williams.

Orly? So now you're a mind reader as well as an ace welterweight appraiser? :bears:

[mexican wedding shirt]

Orly? So now you're a mind reader as well as an ace welterweight appraiser? :bears:
A mind reader? No, just a clever interpreter of characters, with an acutely trained nose for bullshit.

I'm like a trained beagle, only bullshit instead of prey/drugs.