View Full Version : Round by Round: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Tony Thompson
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 11:09 AM
:slap::slap:
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 11:47 AM
Spoiler: Banks/Rossitto
Could be the night Steward is send into retirement. Jonathan Banks struggles badly with 39 year old Rossitto, who was blown out by Gurov and Haye. Banks almost Koīd Rossitto in teh 12th, but he has been in horrible shape over the second half of the fight. If Wlad had the same camp, heīll get KTFO.:stir:
114-114, 115-113, 117-114 Banks
Ironically the American had it a draw, the crowd booīs.
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:13 PM
It's on.......
Arben
07-12-2008, 12:18 PM
w00t!
Thompson SD12!!!:partie:
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:19 PM
no Merchant...Wladimir getting beat would not be UNPRECEDENTED!! :notallthere:
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:24 PM
okay..okay...this is all good and well done....but lets get to the fight...DAMMIT!!!
Xplosive
07-12-2008, 12:25 PM
"I wanted to see bleck people" :lol:
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Anybody have the Sopcast link?
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:36 PM
arrghhh GOD...30 minutes..and they still have not started the fight...DAMMIT....
and DRUNK ass MERCHANT forgot to take off his reading eyeglasses:notallthere:
Antwuan Maxx
07-12-2008, 12:38 PM
Anybody have the Sopcast link?
http://www.justin.tv/mstv_1
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:40 PM
TALE OF THE TAPE
Wladimir Klitschko
Age 32
Height: 6'6"
Reach: 26"
Weight: 241
Tony Thompson
Age: 36
Height: 6'4"
Reach: 29"
Weight: 247
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 12:40 PM
http://www.justin.tv/mstv_1
:partie:thanks!
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:45 PM
:lol:
Come on Thompson..you song ended halfway through your walkout...you too slow...hurry up....
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:47 PM
Ohhh are you fucking kidding national anthems...or whatever the fuck it isssssssss.......:kick:
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 12:48 PM
What a crappy verison of national anthem
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 12:48 PM
We have the first choker of the night. :laughing:
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:52 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
is NEXT....
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:54 PM
Joe Cortez...hurry the fuck up ...who cares how many attention seeking hoes wanna be behind/next to the fighters during the staredown....:kick:
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 12:54 PM
Cortez didn't promise to be fair but firm
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 12:58 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 1
They meet in the middle of the ring....Thompson come out with a sorta jab to the body..THOMPSON is a southpaw...first right hand by Wladimir..he falls in and clinch w/ Thompson. Wladimir catching Tony's jab with his hand..jab/right by Wladimir, partially blocked by Tony.
Straight left by Thompson clean..and they clinch. Another left by Thompson not much on it though, left to the body by Wlad. Tapping jabs by Wladimir nothing big...right hand by Wladimir...
Jab/right by Wlad goes over Tony's head...Wlad not throwing much, just putting his right hand up to prevent Tony from throwing...trying to land one hard right...
ROund 1: Wlad
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 12:58 PM
Very close and quiet first round as expected. Thompson probably took the round with two lefts, Wlad landed one right. Good news for Wlad is that he threw already three right hands
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:02 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 2...
They meet in the middle of the ring...SHIT i miss it apparently WLAD landed a right..that drop TONY..but CORTEZ didn't count it....(so said HBO crew)
Jab/right hand by Wladimir right on the chin...Tony takes it..alot of hugging and clinching..left/Right down the middle by Wladimir, another right..Tony hurt a bit...they clinch along the ropes.
Right hand lead by Wladimir...a bit right hand happy not setting it up with teh jab..much..Jabs by Tony...Tony start to bounce on his toes...and Wlad taps him with jabs....
Lefts hands by Tony CUT WLADIMIR over his eyes...NOW TONY is CUT OVER his right eye...
NOT much happening..alot of lounging in and mugging by both fighters...
Round 2: Wlad
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:02 PM
2nd round for Wlad, he landed good shots there but Thompson took them well.
Both are cut, Wlad's seems pretty nasty
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:06 PM
Thompson tried to be aggressive in the 3rd but Wlad landed the better shots, not too much happening either way. Wlad 2-1
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:06 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 3
They meet in the middle of the ring...Tony comes out with a jab to the body...Wladimir comes out bouncing around...not being the Terminator in this round. Jab,jab, right by Wladimir.
Jabs by Wladimir..Tony throwing a jab/lefts but with nothing on them...as if it was sparring session or something. Jabs to teh body by Tony...Jabs to the head by Wladimr...
Left hook to the body by Wladimir, Jab/right to the head by Wlad..clinch...Wladimir leaping in with a left jab/hook, with a straight right...
WLAD doesn't seem able to figure out how to lands punches(other than a right) against TONY...
and
TONY covers up everytime Wladimir get close...and is too slow to counter..
ROund 3: Wladimir...
Xplosive
07-12-2008, 01:07 PM
What a sorry heavyweight champion.
And blind ass Cotez missed a clear headbutt.
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:10 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 4
They meet in the middle of the ring...they come out tounching gloves...Wlad has his left hand all the way out...blocking Tony's right jabs. Jab/right to the body by Wladimir...
Slapping right hook by Tony.....Tony jabs Wladimir around the ropes...Wlad trying to blocked it with his arms......
GOD THIS SUCKS.....TONY covers up...WLadimir doesn't wanna throw anything....tries to lower Tony's guard with his gloves...Right to the body by TOny...straight right by Wladimir down the middle...RIght to the body by Tony, another..while CLINCHING...Right/left/right to the body by Tony..right to the body by Wlad..
Round 4: Tony...
Lampley says.."good fight"...BULLSHIT...
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:11 PM
Wlad 3-1, he is in control, Thompson doesn't get very much done at this moment. It is not a bad fight IMO though no action packed either. In 8th round the HAMMER will land
If Klitchko can't blow out a loser like Thompson, that says a lot about how good of a fighter he really is.
He's the best heavy in boxing today, but back 10-15 years ago, in the era of Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer, Morrison, Foreman, etc, he'd be a nobody.
TFK
jaws1216
07-12-2008, 01:12 PM
2-2,
If Wlad wasn't a "Zeta-male" he'd be a great fighter. He has a uterus where his balls should be.
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:12 PM
Still think Povetkin has no shot to make Wlad uncomfortable, you are crazy.
I do like these fights in Europe though. Saturday afternoon boxing is kinda cool. Brings back memories of Wide World of Sports and when the networks used to have boxing.
TFK
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:14 PM
Wlad 4-1 after five rounds. Tony is not winning the fight but he is a tricky fellow to fight
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:14 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 5
They meet in the middle of the ring....touchy...touchy gloves...fucking Wladimir looks SLOPPY as shit..he just doesn't seem able to hit TONY enough...Jab,jab by Tony...Wladimir not landing much...left to the boyd by Wlad...Jabs by Tony, right by Wlad, another, RIght to the body by Tony, another body shot while Wlad holds him...
Wladimir missing with the right lead..and falls into a clinch..Tony lands two right hands to the body while clinching. Straight right by Wladimir..Jab,jab, left hook slappy by Wladimir...
Left to the body by Tony, another, while Wlad tries to clinch him..
Round 5: Tony...maybe? Fuck i know..
WLADIMIR has that "SHIT what is happening" LOOK in his eyes....
jaws1216
07-12-2008, 01:15 PM
3-2 Thompson
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:15 PM
3-2 Wlad
Xplosive
07-12-2008, 01:15 PM
Wlad is a bum, feasting on a division of bigger bums.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:15 PM
If Klitchko can't blow out a loser like Thompson, that says a lot about how good of a fighter he really is.
He's the best heavy in boxing today, but back 10-15 years ago, in the era of Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer, Morrison, Foreman, etc, he'd be a nobody.
TFK
Disagreed. Thompson is a spoiler
Disagreed. Thompson is a spoiler
Thompson is garbage.
TFK
jaws1216
07-12-2008, 01:17 PM
people scoring the fight for Klitshko are apparently ignoring that body punches count as clean punches.
Wlad's hitting alot of gloves and nothing, while Thompson's left finds home every time
Klit's got his mouth wide open, he's just begging to get KO'd by this Ham and Egger.
TFK
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:18 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 6
They meet in the middle of the ring...touchy gloves...and some jabs by both. MOstly touchy..Straight left by Tony, Jabs to the body by TOny.....
GOD somebody THROW SOMETHING.....fags feintin' for the last 40-50 seconds..Left/right by Tony...Jab by Wlad..RIght to the body, right to the head by Wladimir....
Right hand by Wladimir catching TOny ducking....Right lead by Wladimir breakthrough TOny's guard.....Jab/straight left hand by TOny hard punch..pushing Wladimir back...Jab/Right hand combo by Wladimir...pushing Tony into the ropes..but Wlad doesn't go after him....
Round 6: Wladimir
Xplosive
07-12-2008, 01:18 PM
Disagreed. Thompson is a spoiler
Please. Thompson's a fuckin palooka.
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:18 PM
3-3
If that was a 15 round fight Thompson could feel very comfortable.
jaws1216
07-12-2008, 01:19 PM
3-3
If that was a 15 round fight Thompson could feel very comfortable.
agreed with 3-3
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:19 PM
Both landed some good shots in 6th but Wlad more so. 5-1 Wlad, could be 4-2 too but WLad is in command.
This is how fights look between big guys, try to understand. It doesn't mean that midgets could compete
Thompson is garbage.
TFK
I'm sure you base this opinion on watching many of his fights, right?
I'm sure you base this opinion on watching many of his fights, right?
From what I've seen and what I've read, yes.
And also from what I'm seeing right now.
TFK
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:22 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 7
THey meet in the middle of the ring...touchy..Jabs by Wladimir...right hand by Wladimir..Tony goes on the ropes..covers up...Left to the body by Wladimir...Lead right hands by Wladimir..being blocked by Tony..though. ..Left to the body by Wladimir, counter left hand by Tony...Left/right to the boyd by Wladimir...RIght by Wladimir, another lead right...
Jab,jab by Wladimir, counter left by TOny. Left hook/RIGHT hand by Wladimir...
Round 7: Wladimir
jaws1216
07-12-2008, 01:22 PM
best round of the fight for Wlad
4-3 Klitschko
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:23 PM
Now Thompson has to go into second gear (if he has one) and make it a fight, to push Wlad over the edge and tire him out. Then it will have been brilliant.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:24 PM
Please. Thompson's a fuckin palooka.
Disagreed. That big guy who keeps his hands on his temples is not easy to look good against
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:24 PM
"I believe..I'm not sure..he might be tired" -Steward...a round ago...i might be wrong..or i might be right...don't take my word...4it..
panchyprsss
07-12-2008, 01:24 PM
B-O-R-I-N-G!!! Wake me up when something significant happens.
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:27 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 8
They meet in the middle of the ring....jabs by Wladimir..not much landing. Left to the body by Wlad, another, left uppercut by Wlad. Lead right by Wladimir...TONY just walks in with guard high not throwing SHIT.....Left by Tony, but he missed with a 2nd one....
Jab,jab by Tony short..then throws the Left..but WLad ducks it...Jab/right by Wladimr, Tony thows the left and it lands but it does nothing to Wlad..Jab,jab by Wlad...RIght hand by Wladimir.snapping TOny's head back..
Round 8: Wladimir
This isn't a fight where the better man wins, so much as it is a fight where the lesser man loses.
TFK
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Wlad still winning after eight but Thompson is taking everything. I don't see how this fight could be as close as you guys say, Thompson's landed shots are body slaps in clinches.
This looks like Holmes-Williams
panchyprsss
07-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Thompson is a disgrace. He travelled so far just to do the minimum effort and just pleased to survive each round. His corner should throw the towel.
Thompson looks like he is in tua/rope-a-dope mode. I think he will be looking for a ko in the last 3 rounds. Probably won't get it since Wlad doesn't look too spent after 8, though.
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:29 PM
So tell me again how Steward has improved Wlad. Sanders would still knock him out just like 5 years ago.
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:31 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 9
They meet in the middle of the ring...feints by both fighters..Wladimir throws a hard/fast right but it missed the mark...Jab,jab,jab by Wladimir...
NOW WLAD has the "I got THIS SHIT" look on his face.....Jabs by Wladimir and nothing much...NOTHING wrong TONY...WLad missing with the right..lmissed and CLINCH.
Jab,jab by Wladimir, Tony missing with his punches...sloppy jab/left by TOny...
ROund 9: Wladimir
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:32 PM
Thompson needs to let his hands go. WTF is he thinking. Wlad is not going to run into something, you need to make him back straight up and then hammer him with the follow up.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:32 PM
This isn't a fight where the better man wins, so much as it is a fight where the lesser man loses.
TFK
Winning is what counts in boxing and in sports, not the highlight reels.
Wlad has won at least seven rounds out of nine. Tony's trainers are sounding desperate
So tell me again how Steward has improved Wlad. Sanders would still knock him out just like 5 years ago.
In recent fights, he's gotten wlad to fight more like vitali which is a safer, harder-to-beat style than he used to have. Probably that was wlad's idea, though. Tonight...not so much.
panchyprsss
07-12-2008, 01:33 PM
Larry Merchant's comments real meaning,"Thompson's level of stinkyness is better than that of more renowned heavyweights".
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:34 PM
So tell me again how Steward has improved Wlad. Sanders would still knock him out just like 5 years ago.
Let's put it this way. The new Wlad would have decisioned Ray Mercer and stopped Sanders. The old Wlad would have already killed Thompson
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:36 PM
Thompson wants out. Another pussy American
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:36 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 10
LEADERMAN has it 8-1 WLAD
They meet in the middle of the ring...jabs by Wladimir..Wladimir taking TOny with the right hands..small light taps...Jab/right/jab/right by WLADIMIR..nothing on 'em just waiting for TONY to open up...if he ever does..RIGHT HAND by WLADIMIR right on the cut...but TOny takes it...RIghts to the body by TOny..while they are clinching...
WLADIMIR doing alot of shit that makes him get tired faster.........THEY CLINCH....their feet get tangled up..AND THEY BOTH COLLAPSE into a CORNER>..TONY says he is HURT...and it might be TRUE....
ROund 10: Wladimir
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:37 PM
"nah..nah you ain't trying...nah you need to do better than that" -TONY's corner..
jaws1216
07-12-2008, 01:37 PM
7-3 Wlad
panchyprsss
07-12-2008, 01:37 PM
Thompson wants to quit.
Let's put it this way. The new Wlad would have decisioned Ray Mercer and stopped Sanders. The old Wlad would have already killed Thompson
well put
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:38 PM
Hey I have to be honest Povetkin and Haye have no shot at all. Haye KTFO 100% guaranteed if he lands first. His power and handspeed Wlad hasnīt seen since Sanders. Povetkin will put combinations together like Wlad has never seen.
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 Ko's)
vs.
Tony "The Tiger" Thompson 31-1 (19 Ko's)
Round 11
They meet in the middle of the ring....RIghts by Wladimir..jabs..Jab/right by Wladimr..Tony looks like he wants out....Jab,jab,jab,right by Wladimir...LEft hook by Wladimir, TOny trying to counter.....BIG RIGHT HAND DOWN GOES THOMPSON.....6...7...8...9...ITS OVER!!!
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:39 PM
And THERE IT IS. Big right hands ends it
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:40 PM
Let's put it this way. The new Wlad would have decisioned Ray Mercer and stopped Sanders. The old Wlad would have already killed Thompson
Yeah right. Wlad is a fuckin bum in a division ruled by scrubs. Heīs still open, if you have the speed and power to throw a fastball through the middle. Thompson is a weak armpuncher.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:41 PM
Once again, Wlad wins 8 rounds out of 10 against a top-5 contender and blasts him out and all he gets is bashing. Style wins championships apparently
jaws1216
07-12-2008, 01:42 PM
That was pathetic.
TFK
that was terrible.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:43 PM
Yeah right. Wlad is a fuckin bum in a division ruled by scrubs. Heīs still open, if you have the speed and power to throw a fastball through the middle. Thompson is a weak armpuncher.
The problem is, big guys are not fast enough and midgets don't get there :stir: Povetkin would make a fun fight but he is too easy to hit and as we saw nce again, nobody can take Wlad's right hand
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:44 PM
The problem is, big guys are not fast enough and midgets don't get there :stir: Povetkin would make a fun fight but he is too easy to hit and as we saw nce again, nobody can take Wlad's right hand
Brewster took it the first time around....
steve_dave
07-12-2008, 01:45 PM
Once again, Wlad wins 8 rounds out of 10 against a top-5 contender and blasts him out and all he gets is bashing. Style wins championships apparently
No, but it wins fans. Wlad looked really, really bad today.
Once again, Wlad wins 8 rounds out of 10 against a top-5 contender and blasts him out and all he gets is bashing. Style wins championships apparently
Talk about shining a turd.
TFK
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 01:47 PM
Thompson, like Brock, made it awkward for Klitschko early on but once he hit the wall around the 6th round it was pretty much all Klitschko who I think is getting better and more comfortable at winning ugly. He didn't do much with his jab in the fight because of how defensive Thompson was, so he threw a lot of right hand leads, and more punches to the body than usual and even brought some uppercuts after it.
For all those criticizing Klitschko's last two performances, let's remember that as good as Lennox Lewis was he never fought a southpaw...and Klitscho's faced two in a row.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:47 PM
No, but it wins fans. Wlad looked really, really bad today.
Agreed it was another sloppy fight by old standards. The problem is that the guys are this big and thus their fights are slower and they look more clumsy. The flip side of the coin of course is that smaller men just can't compete anymore
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:48 PM
Once again, Wlad wins 8 rounds out of 10 against a top-5 contender and blasts him out and all he gets is bashing. Style wins championships apparently
Of course they do, as long as guys like Valuev, Ruiz and Thompson are considered top 5. Do you honestly believe Wlad would last five rounds with Lewis or Holyfield. He hit almost nothing, but air and gloves in the first five rounds, mouth already open, but nobody in this division possesses any offensive tools. Go ahead name a single fighter, who has offensive skills and power? ONE !!! Peter, Brock, Thompson, Byrd, Brewster, Ruiz, Valuev?
Chagaev, Virchis with his power, Haye or Povetkin are interesting fights. The rest is garbage. Wlad will never fight any of them voluntarily. If Povetkin does improve his guard, heīll put Wlad away. :mj:
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:50 PM
Talk about shining a turd.
TFK
So how did you score it, did you have Thomspon ahead? Was he close of winning at any point? Was he not top-5? Was he not knocked out? What is the problem with that statement. Wlad might not look flashy, sexy or whatever you prefer but all he has done in years is winning, usually very clearly so. To me, that is not a bad thing
mexican wedding shirt
07-12-2008, 01:51 PM
So how did you score it, did you have Thomspon ahead? Was he close of winning at any point? Was he not top-5? Was he not knocked out? What is the problem with that statement. Wlad might not look flashy, sexy or whatever you prefer but all he has done in years is winning, usually very clearly so. To me, that is not a bad thing
Well actually it is if it's mind numbingly boring to watch.
This is boxing, it's supposed to be entertaining and exciting.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:51 PM
Of course they do, as long as guys like Valuev, Ruiz and Thompson are considered top 5. Do you honestly believe Wlad would last five rounds with Lewis or Holyfield. He hit almost nothing, but air and gloves in the first five rounds, mouth already open, but nobody in this division possesses any offensive tools. Go ahead name a single fighter, who has offensive skills and power? ONE !!! Peter, Brock, Thompson, Byrd, Brewster, Ruiz, Valuev?
Chagaev, Virchis with his power, Haye or Povetkin are interesting fights. The rest is garbage. Wlad will never fight any of them voluntarily. If Povetkin does improve his guard, heīll put Wlad away. :mj:
Yes, I would pick Wlad over Holyfield in a fight that would look better than this one. Holyfield was easy to hit and he was there to be hit: suidice against a bomber like Wlad
r o o s t e r
07-12-2008, 01:52 PM
Agreed it was another sloppy fight by old standards. The problem is that the guys are this big and thus their fights are slower and they look more clumsy. The flip side of the coin of course is that smaller men just can't compete anymore
roy jones and james toney
r o o s t e r
07-12-2008, 01:53 PM
what the hell is wrong with you, ugo?
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 01:54 PM
roy jones and james toney
Who both pretty much stuck to smaller heavyweights.
Toney had his chance to fight Klitschko and turned it down.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:54 PM
Well actually it is if it's mind numbingly boring to watch.
This is boxing, it's supposed to be entertaining and exciting.
Maybe so. Maybe soccer is supposed to have more broken legs and killed players. It is just what you like. If you want more colourful fights, they are to be found from smaller divisions (or films were heavyweights were smaller). The thing is, these guys would not lose for the smaller ones
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 01:54 PM
The problem is, big guys are not fast enough and midgets don't get there :stir: Povetkin would make a fun fight but he is too easy to hit and as we saw nce again, nobody can take Wlad's right hand
Haye is big, and Haye is fast. If he had shown a Holyfield chin at cruiserweight, Iīd pick him without hesitation. Still this has to be considered an 50/50 fight early on. If Wlad reaches and misses with his lead right like he did some times today, or feints with the weight on his backfoot and his guard down, Haye will come with something big and Wlad will be on queer street. Speed and power still kills Wlad imho. Unrelentless pressure is the other option, but like you said Povetkin will have to tighten up his guard. The pace he set against Chambers with the flu wasnīt too bad. Going by his promotional acts, he must feel very comfortable, just like Haye.
ILLUMINATI
07-12-2008, 01:54 PM
COOL...HARDKNOCKS.......special comes back to HBO....:pray:
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:55 PM
roy jones and james toney
Yes, they both beat one top-10 contender. Of course in the past decades we have had lt.heavyweights with much more success against heavyweights but let's not consider that
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 01:57 PM
what the hell is wrong with you, ugo?
I am thinking. Sorry about that
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 01:57 PM
Haye is big, and Haye is fast. If he had shown a Holyfield chin at cruiserweight, Iīd pick him without hesitation. Still this has to be considered an 50/50 fight early on. If Wlad reaches and misses with his lead right like he did some times today, or feints with the weight on his backfoot and his guard down, Haye will come with something big and Wlad will be on queer street. Speed and power still kills Wlad imho. Unrelentless pressure is the other option, but like you said Povetkin will have to tighten up his guard. The pace he set against Chambers with the flu wasnīt too bad. Going by his promotional acts, he must feel very comfortable, just like Haye.
Haye sounds like a guy wanting a pay day to me. I think Povetkin is the real test.
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 02:00 PM
Haye sounds like a guy wanting a pay day to me. I think Povetkin is the real test.
Haye is not chopping down guys with chins like Peter or Chagaev. He knows, if he lands one on the button, Wlad will most likely go down. And heīll be considered the real champ. Honestly he deserves his shot immediately after Povetkin, if Wlad is still champ. I donīt understand why Haye has to prove himself at heavyweight. That he was the undisputed cruiserweight champion should be enough in this heavyweight division.
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 02:05 PM
Haye is not chopping down guys with chins like Peter or Chagaev. He knows, if he lands one on the button, Wlad will most likely go down. And heīll be considered the real champ. Honestly he deserves his shot immediately after Povetkin, if Wlad is still champ. I donīt understand why Haye has to prove himself at heavyweight. That he was the undisputed cruiserweight champion should be enough in this heavyweight division.
I'd like to see him fight someone like Virchis first.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 02:05 PM
Haye is not chopping down guys with chins like Peter or Chagaev. He knows, if he lands one on the button, Wlad will most likely go down. And heīll be considered the real champ. Honestly he deserves his shot immediately after Povetkin, if Wlad is still champ. I donīt understand why Haye has to prove himself at heavyweight. That he was the undisputed cruiserweight champion should be enough in this heavyweight division.
Why couldn't he fight even one top-10 contender? Just one? If he'd do that, the fight would become much more interesting too
today was a nice day outside. I'm surprised so many people wasted an hour of if it watching a garbage heavyweight fight.
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 02:14 PM
today was a nice day outside. I'm surprised so many people wasted an hour of if it watching a garbage heavyweight fight.
Where are you typing this from, your laptop on a park bench somewhere?
dsimon3387
07-12-2008, 02:14 PM
Agreed it was another sloppy fight by old standards. The problem is that the guys are this big and thus their fights are slower and they look more clumsy. The flip side of the coin of course is that smaller men just can't compete anymore
dsimon writes:
That is an incredibly stupid thing to say. Vlad has shown that against all mediocre to bad comp he is supreme. This comp has run the gamet from guys Brock's size to guys Thompson's size. Size is not the factor.... suckiness is... Suckiness and the failure of Vlad and his arrogant brother, soon to be trying to complete a strangle hold on the division, to make any exciting fights with guys who can punch hard enough to make a difference.
This guy was never a risk. Despite his size he does not have the punch to turn a fight around. Valuev hits harder and Valuev has gigantism!
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 02:15 PM
I'd like to see him fight someone like Virchis first.
Why? That is a dangerous fight for Haye. Unless it is an eliminator I donīt see the point for them to fight. Nobody in the states knows about Virchis, and that heīs a clear cut top ten heavyweight, who is deserving of a title shot. Americans still rank the washed up Rahbum in the top ten.
I just want to see Klit fight someone who's actually trying to win the fight.
TFK
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 02:19 PM
Why? That is a dangerous fight for Haye. Unless it is an eliminator I donīt see the point for them to fight. Nobody in the states knows about Virchis, and that heīs a clear cut top ten heavyweight, who is deserving of a title shot. Americans still rank the washed up Rahbum in the top ten.
Which Americans rank Has-been Rahman?
I'm just talking about Virchis as level of opponent...and I think it'd be a better fight than some other options being floated around.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 02:22 PM
dsimon writes:
That is an incredibly stupid thing to say. Vlad has shown that against all mediocre to bad comp he is supreme. This comp has run the gamet from guys Brock's size to guys Thompson's size. Size is not the factor.... suckiness is... Suckiness and the failure of Vlad and his arrogant brother, soon to be trying to complete a strangle hold on the division, to make any exciting fights with guys who can punch hard enough to make a difference.
This guy was never a risk. Despite his size he does not have the punch to turn a fight around. Valuev hits harder and Valuev has gigantism!
Just for you to consider: Calvin Brock against Wlad was 6'2 224 lbs. George Foreman against Joe Frazier was 6'3 1/2 217 lbs. That's your modern day small guy right there.
And please name me someone Wlad should fight. Povetkin is suppoedly next on his list as he just entered the #1 ranking. Apart from that, who is this Mr. Mysterious that Wlad is avoiding. Is it the guy who has had one heavyweight bout?
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 02:22 PM
I just want to see Klit fight someone who's actually trying to win the fight.
TFK
They do, before they get hit that is:stir::mj:
dsimon3387
07-12-2008, 02:25 PM
dsimon writes:
A povkin fight is horseshit clear and simple. A boring fight that the other guy has shown beyond measure he cannot win barring a miracle. Povkin does not have a punch. He is a young fighter with a few skills and no dy-no-mite. How much more horseshit are people going to feed people who want to see the heavy weight division in boxing?
Fuck it I would rather watch Charlie in his MMA debut for chrissake! :lol:
People need to tell Vlad and his brother that bullshit is being called on their crap. Make some fights worth seeint. Haye has dy-no-mite he is dangerous because he can punch. He wants to step up becasue he feels he is ready....GIVE THE KID A CHANCE!!!!!
Please so at the every least when they finally revive Klit at the hospital it will stop the braying of U-go about the size of the average contender.
People wake up!! Klitschko is doing this so him and doofy can be champions of the division together!! There is no concern for making good fights woth people who could actually win.
They do, before they get hit that is:stir::mj:
I'm not saying Wlad isn't the best heavyweight in boxing today, because he is. It's just that he's still not very good. For as much of a non effort as his opponents put up, he should look much better. But at times, Klitchko looks like he struggles to look good against opponents who aren't even trying to win the fight.
Klitchko is lucky he is in the right place at the right time. If he were fighting 15 years ago, he'd be getting KO'd by Alex Garcia on Tuesday Night Fights.
TFK
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 02:29 PM
Just for you to consider: Calvin Brock against Wlad was 6'2 224 lbs. George Foreman against Joe Frazier was 6'3 1/2 217 lbs. That's your modern day small guy right there.
And please name me someone Wlad should fight. Povetkin is suppoedly next on his list as he just entered the #1 ranking. Apart from that, who is this Mr. Mysterious that Wlad is avoiding. Is it the guy who has had one heavyweight bout?
Virchis, Chagaev, Valuev, Ruiz, Povetkin, Haye. Basically the guys, who have some qualities that scare Wladimir. The pinpoint accuracy of Chagaev, the size and power of Virchis, the speed and power of Haye, the relentless pressure and combination punching of a confident gold medalist in Povetkin, the sheer size of Valuev, that has tired out many opponents. Ever since Peter Wlad has fought guys, who posed no offensive threat to him. Byrd and Brewster were totally shot, Thompson and Brock tried for six rounds before falling apart, and Ibragimov didnīt even show up, improving on his shameful performance against Holyfield. Yes on paper it is an impressive run, but I honestly think, that the six guys I mentioned are better than anybody Wlad
has fought since Peter, even Ruiz, who gets all the sh*t for his style, but isnīt much different from Wlad, Hopkins or Hatton.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-12-2008, 02:32 PM
I'm not saying Wlad isn't the best heavyweight in boxing today, because he is. It's just that he's still not very good. For as much of a non effort as his opponents put up, he should look much better. But at times, Klitchko looks like he struggles to look good against opponents who aren't even trying to win the fight.
Klitchko is lucky he is in the right place at the right time. If he were fighting 15 years ago, he'd be getting KO'd by Alex Garcia on Tuesday Night Fights.
TFK
This is what I disagree in. I agree he looks clumsy but that is not to be confused with not being effetive. Because if it was the way you (and so many others) say, then the 200lbs guys should have taken over long time ago. In fact, they should never have left either.
Bob N. Weave
07-12-2008, 02:32 PM
I love all of these morons who are hyping Haye at HW. The dude has a china chin at cruiser and has proven NOTHING at HW. Let the dude prove himself first. He aint shit.
This is what I disagree in. I agree he looks clumsy but that is not to be confused with not being effetive. Because if it was the way you (and so many others) say, then the 200lbs guys should have taken over long time ago. In fact, they should never have left either.
Struggling to beat sub par fighters who aren't trying to win is hardly effective. It's just being less sucky then his opponent.
TFK
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 02:44 PM
Struggling to beat sub par fighters who aren't trying to win is hardly effective. It's just being less sucky then his opponent.
TFK
Yeah, Tony Thompson is no Enzo Maccarinelli, that's for sure.
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 02:52 PM
Yeah, Tony Thompson is no Enzo Maccarinelli, that's for sure.
:laughing:
Even considering Enzo is a bum, he KTFO Dominguez with one punch, which nobody has ever done. The power he carries, gives him a better shot to beat Wlad than Thompson had. I donīt care if Haye or Enzo will be flat on their back in three rounds, but at least they have a weapon to beat Wlad unlike guys like a shot Byrd, Brewster or a runner like Ibragimov. And we still donīt know what will happen to Haye at heavyweight, maybe his punch resistance will increase a bit, like it did for Chico at lightweight, although it wonīt matter against a puncher of Wladīs calibre.
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 03:17 PM
:laughing:
Even considering Enzo is a bum, he KTFO Dominguez with one punch, which nobody has ever done. The power he carries, gives him a better shot to beat Wlad than Thompson had. I donīt care if Haye or Enzo will be flat on their back in three rounds, but at least they have a weapon to beat Wlad unlike guys like a shot Byrd, Brewster or a runner like Ibragimov. And we still donīt know what will happen to Haye at heavyweight, maybe his punch resistance will increase a bit, like it did for Chico at lightweight, although it wonīt matter against a puncher of Wladīs calibre.
Thompson could defend himself and for 5-6 round was competitive with Klitschko. He fought negatively and still lost and was knocked out.
A smaller fighter who fights less defensively probably gets knocked out quicker...so if all you're asking for is a guy with a slim chance to none chance to knock Klitschko out, maybe Haye's your guy.
We'll see how well Haye can defend himself and his chin at heavyweight the longer he stayes there.
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Thompson could defend himself and for 5-6 round was competitive with Klitschko. He fought negatively and still lost and was knocked out.
A smaller fighter who fights less defensively probably gets knocked out quicker...so if all you're asking for is a guy with a slim chance to none chance to knock Klitschko out, maybe Haye's your guy.
We'll see how well Haye can defend himself and his chin at heavyweight the longer he stayes there.
Well, or heīll just blitzkrieg Wlad in Sanders style and it will be all over. I certainly donīt want another negative fucka with no power or guts to work the body for five rounds, keep his hand up and then do NOTHING, but throw an occassional armpunch. Wlad has his "oh shit" face on, and he was ready to cave in AGAIN. I want somebody that is like a shark, when he smells blood, not a vegetarian.
Yes Thompson did good for five rounds, yes Thompson is a decent fighter, yes Thompson would box the shit out of Brewster, but if he doesnīt have the guts or the will to go for broke at age 36 in his only title shot, then donīt bother. He had an window of opportunity in rounds 5 through 8, to really try.
His_Royness
07-12-2008, 03:24 PM
I just want to see Klit fight someone who's actually trying to win the fight.
TFK
Like Sam Peter?
Tam Tam
07-12-2008, 03:28 PM
Dariusz is such a shameless Klitschko hater....which is so hard to understand, considering his loves. My best guess is that Wlad didn't sign a glove for him in Grabaschveld Arena when he was kickin' it with his fifty women.
Klitchko is lucky he is in the right place at the right time. If he were fighting 15 years ago, he'd be getting KO'd by Alex Garcia on Tuesday Night Fights.
TFK
:lol: I hate klitschko but he would knock out Manoso Torres 97 times out of 100
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 03:37 PM
Dariusz is such a shameless Klitschko hater....which is so hard to understand, considering his loves. My best guess is that Wlad didn't sign a glove for him in Grabaschveld Arena when he was kickin' it with his fifty women.
No, itīs because heīs fake, totally and utterly fake. No personality, no nothing, just blah. No opinion on nothing. Boring to watch and I keep losing money, because I overestimate the scrubs he fights. :flip::flip:
His_Royness
07-12-2008, 04:00 PM
No, itīs because heīs fake, totally and utterly fake. No personality, no nothing, just blah.
yeah... ElT got him all figured out. you can't fool him with his objective perception on the man! :nono:
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 04:00 PM
No, itīs because heīs fake, totally and utterly fake. No personality, no nothing, just blah. No opinion on nothing. Boring to watch and I keep losing money, because I overestimate the scrubs he fights. :flip::flip:
Come on, he's closer to Manny Steward on a personal level than any of his other fighters. :lol:
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 04:10 PM
Well, or heīll just blitzkrieg Wlad in Sanders style and it will be all over. I certainly donīt want another negative fucka with no power or guts to work the body for five rounds, keep his hand up and then do NOTHING, but throw an occassional armpunch. Wlad has his "oh shit" face on, and he was ready to cave in AGAIN. I want somebody that is like a shark, when he smells blood, not a vegetarian.
Yes Thompson did good for five rounds, yes Thompson is a decent fighter, yes Thompson would box the shit out of Brewster, but if he doesnīt have the guts or the will to go for broke at age 36 in his only title shot, then donīt bother. He had an window of opportunity in rounds 5 through 8, to really try.
If you think he's capable of that, so be it, but he's not like Sanders at all stylistically so he's going to have to come up with someway different of doing it.
Where are you typing this from, your laptop on a park bench somewhere?
from my phone sir
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 04:14 PM
from my phone sir
From the beach?
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 04:26 PM
If you think he's capable of that, so be it, but he's not like Sanders at all stylistically so he's going to have to come up with someway different of doing it.
Yes, duh. Heīll do it with the right, instead of the left. :partie:
mexican wedding shirt
07-12-2008, 04:27 PM
Yes, duh. Heīll do it with the right, instead of the left. :partie:
:lol:
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 04:38 PM
Yes, duh. Heīll do it with the right, instead of the left. :partie:
Okay, but it's easier landing that straight left on Klitschko than a right.
Haye's more similar to Brewster than Sanders and I doubt he could stand up to half of what Brewster did in their first fight.
valdosta
07-12-2008, 04:49 PM
Haye couldn't even stand up to a flush shot from Lolenga Mock. Mock put Haye on his ass and had him almost gone. Haye better land REALLY quick to beat Wlad. :popcorn:
His_Royness
07-12-2008, 04:57 PM
Okay i'm a defender of brewsters worthyness as an opponent in the rematch even. But if u think Haye is more similar to Brewster u must see things differently.
Just being right handed isn't enough. Haye is WAAAAAAY faster than Brewster with his hands and might be able to land far earlier. Seeing today's Wlad he should land far earlier.
His defense is also much better given his reflexes. It's not world class as several examples show but Wlad won't put on pressure like Mock or Mormeck.
He needs to avoid all incoming though before he lands on Wlad and if he can't he will get KTFO.
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 05:14 PM
Okay i'm a defender of brewsters worthyness as an opponent in the rematch even. But if u think Haye is more similar to Brewster u must see things differently.
Just being right handed isn't enough. Haye is WAAAAAAY faster than Brewster with his hands and might be able to land far earlier. Seeing today's Wlad he should land far earlier.
His defense is also much better given his reflexes. It's not world class as several examples show but Wlad won't put on pressure like Mock or Mormeck.
He needs to avoid all incoming though before he lands on Wlad and if he can't he will get KTFO.
Brewster took a pounding in the first fight. We'll see how much faster Haye is carrying the heavier weight...I don't think he looked all that much faster at the 217 he was against Bonin...we'll see how active he is at a much higher weight and how good his stamina is.
I don't think much of Haye's defense, he certainly doesn't hold his left up that much and I think he'd make quite an inviting target for Klitschko's jab and right hand.
ElTerriblee
07-12-2008, 05:25 PM
Brewster took a pounding in the first fight. We'll see how much faster Haye is carrying the heavier weight...I don't think he looked all that much faster at the 217 he was against Bonin....
You took that out of a fight that lasted 60 seconds, 30 of which Bonin spent on the ground?
Mitchell Kane
07-12-2008, 05:26 PM
You took that out of a fight that lasted 60 seconds, 30 of which Bonin spent on the ground?
What am I supposed to take it out of, a fight at cruiserweight?
I don't think he's that much faster at a heavyweight than Lamon Brewster.
His_Royness
07-12-2008, 05:34 PM
You took that out of a fight that lasted 60 seconds, 30 of which Bonin spent on the ground?
I'm not saying i agree with Mitchell but 60 seconds fights in which the other guy spends 30 seconds on the canvas is prolly the fastest u will ever see a guy... :lol:
Mean Mr Mustard
07-12-2008, 08:18 PM
Heavyweight boxing. :atu:
Nobleart
07-12-2008, 08:44 PM
Another brilliantly handled Joe Cortez fight.
Wlad belongs in the same basket as Ricky Hatton and John Ruiz.
Wlad probably grabs, clinches and holds worse then anybody. What's worse is he doesn't just hold, he also tries to drive the guy across the ring while he's doing it. It seems to be his way of insuring the other guy is more worn out then him by the last half of the fight.
I know Manny is trying to teach him the Lennox Lewis method, but Lennox was 1000 times more subtle and skilled about doing it. Lennox could also box from the outside for extended periods. It wasn't his automatic nature to just grab a guy every time he threw a punch on the inside.
I will root for his demise.
bigdawg
07-12-2008, 09:05 PM
People hate on Klit but a win is a win. He did what he had to do against Thompson. The stoppage was whack and bullshit but it still counts as a "W". I'll Holla 5000
His_Royness
07-13-2008, 06:06 AM
People hate on Klit but a win is a win. He did what he had to do against Thompson. The stoppage was whack and bullshit but it still counts as a "W". I'll Holla 5000
How was it whack and bullshit. Thompson was not fina at the ten count... :dunno:
@ nobleart - I'd supose u guys go pop in some more Ruiz tapes. Wlad doesn't hold that much... :notallthere:
KaukipRrr
07-13-2008, 06:36 AM
Wlad needs to be taught how to block and counter, stop fuckin' clinching, and throw some combo's inbetween the jabs. I also wish he would lead with his left hook more,..
Bob N. Weave
07-13-2008, 08:12 AM
I felt that it was a good fight for Wlad. The first half wasn't the prettiest, but thats because of the awkward style of Thompson. What I was impressed with was Wlads decision to go for it in the 11th. He was bashed for not pulling the trigger against Iggy and didn't want it to happen again. In the beginning of the 11th WLad was obviously fighting more agressively and seemed to want the KO. Props to him for digging deep. I also think he has greatly improved his stamina issues. Even though he was becoming tired, h epaced himself and was able to put together a llate round rally when it mattered.
And for the stoppage being bullshit.....the dude was barely to his wobbly legs at 9.5, seen the same stoppage thousands of times.
Bob N. Weave
07-13-2008, 08:14 AM
Wlad needs to be taught how to block and counter, stop fuckin' clinching, and throw some combo's inbetween the jabs. I also wish he would lead with his left hook more,..
I agree with this assessment. He needs to learn how to throw combos a little more, and needs to throw counters a little better on the fly.
Azazel
07-13-2008, 10:06 AM
Extremely horrible shit fight, Wlad hasn't fought nobodies who's a threat to him in a long time and is becoming one of boxing boringest fighter. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ruiz would tire him out and knock him out unless he runs inton something huge.
bigdawg
07-13-2008, 10:07 AM
What I meant was that Thompson was bullshit for the way he went out. He was hit way harder earlier in the fight. He gave up and quit if you ask me. That's why I said the stoppage was bullshit. He never even tried to win the fight. Where was the right hook he was landing against Quinn. He never threw the damn punch. Like I said it was a good win for Clit but Thompson had no business in their if he wasn't gonna try and win. I'll Holla 5000
Mitchell Kane
07-13-2008, 10:26 AM
What I meant was that Thompson was bullshit for the way he went out. He was hit way harder earlier in the fight. He gave up and quit if you ask me. That's why I said the stoppage was bullshit. He never even tried to win the fight. Where was the right hook he was landing against Quinn. He never threw the damn punch. Like I said it was a good win for Clit but Thompson had no business in their if he wasn't gonna try and win. I'll Holla 5000
It did sorta look like he was trying to use his arm as a pillow as he went down.:lol:
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 10:37 AM
How was it whack and bullshit. Thompson was not fina at the ten count... :dunno:
@ nobleart - I'd supose u guys go pop in some more Ruiz tapes. Wlad doesn't hold that much... :notallthere:
Wlad is a more talented version of Ruiz. Sad thing is he's actually capable of fighting better then that but Steward has morphed him into the kind of fighter he is to protect his chin. :shit:
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 10:38 AM
Wlad needs to be taught how to block and counter, stop fuckin' clinching, and throw some combo's inbetween the jabs. I also wish he would lead with his left hook more,..
Wlad used to throw combos. No more. :shit:
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 10:42 AM
I felt that it was a good fight for Wlad. The first half wasn't the prettiest, but thats because of the awkward style of Thompson. What I was impressed with was Wlads decision to go for it in the 11th. He was bashed for not pulling the trigger against Iggy and didn't want it to happen again. In the beginning of the 11th WLad was obviously fighting more agressively and seemed to want the KO. Props to him for digging deep. I also think he has greatly improved his stamina issues. Even though he was becoming tired, h epaced himself and was able to put together a llate round rally when it mattered.
And for the stoppage being bullshit.....the dude was barely to his wobbly legs at 9.5, seen the same stoppage thousands of times.
Wlad was fighting more aggressively because Thompson was favoring his leg after getting tackled and driven across the ring over and over again throughout the fight.
Thompson opened up a bit because he was getting frustrated and his corner was getting on him..................that's when Wlad opened up. Not some deep seeded need to "go for it".
:shit:
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 10:43 AM
Extremely horrible shit fight, Wlad hasn't fought nobodies who's a threat to him in a long time and is becoming one of boxing boringest fighter. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ruiz would tire him out and knock him out unless he runs inton something huge.
Dream Fight!!!
:shit:
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 10:44 AM
It did sorta look like he was trying to use his arm as a pillow as he went down.:lol:
I thought he was going to claim he got hit in the back of the head the way he went down.
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 10:44 AM
:shit:
D MAN
07-13-2008, 10:55 AM
WK is so damn boring and sloppy.
I'm happy for him having done so well since he is truly a standup man but at this point I'd really just like to see him get his chin cracked hard again and put to sleep for the full 10 count.
Tyler Durden
07-13-2008, 10:56 AM
I love all of these morons who are hyping Haye at HW. The dude has a china chin at cruiser and has proven NOTHING at HW. Let the dude prove himself first. He aint shit.
They will learn in due time......patience :stir:
cpa5oh
07-13-2008, 01:04 PM
It's a real shame that this was a heavyweight championship fight.
Ugotabe Kidding
07-13-2008, 03:51 PM
Wlad is a more talented version of Ruiz. Sad thing is he's actually capable of fighting better then that but Steward has morphed him into the kind of fighter he is to protect his chin. :shit:
Fighting better in this case too means obviously fighting in exciting manner. Since Wlad won almost every round before the KO, he can't really do much better
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 05:04 PM
Fighting better in this case too means obviously fighting in exciting manner. Since Wlad won almost every round before the KO, he can't really do much better
Fuck that. That wasn't boxing. That was some sad, spawn of UFC fighting discipline.
Cortez and every referee who allows that shit without deducting points should be chopped up and fed to small, starving children in Burma.
Nobleart
07-13-2008, 05:05 PM
:shit:
KaukipRrr
07-13-2008, 10:52 PM
Fuck that. That wasn't boxing. That was some sad, spawn of UFC fighting discipline.
Cortez and every referee who allows that shit without deducting points should be chopped up and fed to small, starving children in Burma.
Sure, but pulling up fouls means that Fraud would lose his entire system of defence, and we cant have that... :nono:
ElTerriblee
07-13-2008, 11:29 PM
Fuck that. That wasn't boxing. That was some sad, spawn of UFC fighting discipline.
Cortez and every referee who allows that shit without deducting points should be chopped up and fed to small, starving children in Burma.
Your hatred toward Wladimir in this thread is unparalleled. http://smiliestation.de/smileys/Engel/63.gif
Sure, but pulling up fouls means that Fraud would lose his entire system of defence, and we cant have that...
Exactly. It would be awesome to see him fight Povetkin without a single clinch or trying to wear down Valuev with his clinches. Itīs not surprising a fighter with Wlads offense can rule the heavyweight division with his grappling tactics, when Ruiz held a world title forever with half the offense.
holler
07-14-2008, 12:02 AM
God the heavyweights are just awful to watch.
Haye, if anything, can bring some excitement to the division (The division is SO bad that people hyping up Arreola for godsake!). Haye, in the very least, can crack and has the personality to stir some shit up. Not particularly impressed by his actual boxing skills, but everybody loves/hates a shit talker with heavy hands. A fight between Haye and Wlad would be exciting simply because people will watch either to watch Wlad get caught or Haye get KTFO. It would be great either way :popcorn:
oh how I hope Haye can stretch WK
Nobleart
07-14-2008, 04:39 AM
Your hatred toward Wladimir in this thread is unparalleled. http://smiliestation.de/smileys/Engel/63.gif
I have hate in my heart. I can't even pretend otherwise.
I used to actually like Wlad at one time. After Emmanuel took him over he's lost less but he's become a completely unwatchable fighter.
He's very talented but that chin is definitely his downfall regarding his present fighting style. If only he had Vitali's chin he'd be much better off.
bigdawg
07-14-2008, 06:26 AM
What I don't understand about fighters who are in the hurt business don't try and hurt their opponents. Why take a fight if u aren't going to try and be a fucken animal in the ring. Thompson attempted to pressure Clit but he never through anything wit bad intentions. What the fuck is that. That's like a basketball team getting a fastbreak and then pulling the ball out and then going into a prevent offense. Makes no sense to me. And what was he telling his corner to trust him? He never went into a mode of desperation. Also I knew he was gonna quit when he got up limping after Clit tackled him. If he was gonna be hurt it should have been his shoulder or back and not his knee. I'll Holla 5000
Nobleart
07-14-2008, 06:41 AM
What I don't understand about fighters who are in the hurt business don't try and hurt their opponents. Why take a fight if u aren't going to try and be a fucken animal in the ring. Thompson attempted to pressure Clit but he never through anything wit bad intentions. What the fuck is that. That's like a basketball team getting a fastbreak and then pulling the ball out and then going into a prevent offense. Makes no sense to me. And what was he telling his corner to trust him? He never went into a mode of desperation. Also I knew he was gonna quit when he got up limping after Clit tackled him. If he was gonna be hurt it should have been his shoulder or back and not his knee. I'll Holla 5000
Actually, he did go into desperation mode..................and he got KTFO that very round!
bigdawg
07-14-2008, 06:57 AM
Actually, he did go into desperation mode..................and he got KTFO that very round!
Yeah right that was not no fucking desperation mode. That was give up mode. Like I said the shot he got hit wit was a weak ass punch compared to some of the other shots he got hit with. And no Thompson was not ko'd by a punch he didn't see and nor did he receive such a 1 sided beat down that he was stopped due to the accumulation of blows. The dude gave up menatally and said to himself the first semi-hard shot I receive I'm going down and will take a 10 count. I'll Holla 5000
Nobleart
07-14-2008, 07:06 AM
Yeah right that was not no fucking desperation mode. That was give up mode. Like I said the shot he got hit wit was a weak ass punch compared to some of the other shots he got hit with. And no Thompson was not ko'd by a punch he didn't see and nor did he receive such a 1 sided beat down that he was stopped due to the accumulation of blows. The dude gave up menatally and said to himself the first semi-hard shot I receive I'm going down and will take a 10 count. I'll Holla 5000
Seemed like a pretty solid shot to me, and yes he did open up just prior to getting tagged.
It sure as hell wasn't Klit who opened up first.
Either way, I wouldn't mind seeing Thompson fight another Top 10 guy. I'm kind of intrigued by him. He didn't have too much for Klit after the first 4 rounds or so but he is a spoiler type.
I think he thought he was going to tire Klit down towards the end of the fight but the clinching, pushing down and driving across the ring by Klit wore him down instead.
I'll give Klit this.............he's had much better stamina since the first Brewster fight.
Wlad has a very bad habit he needs to work on. When someone throws punches at him, instead of keeping hands glued to his chin and using head movement, he stiffens up and holds both arms out trying to swat down the punches. It's the same bad habit that got his ass KO'd by Sanders.
For the love of god, teach this guy to move his head!
Streetfighter
07-14-2008, 08:05 AM
he was looking for a way out. that was acting if i ever saw it. way to delayed and it looked fake. he did not want to take anymore punishment from Wlad
Wlad has a very bad habit he needs to work on. When someone throws punches at him, instead of keeping hands glued to his chin and using head movement, he stiffens up and holds both arms out trying to swat down the punches. It's the same bad habit that got his ass KO'd by Sanders.
For the love of god, teach this guy to move his head!
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