View Full Version : Final Prediction: MIGUEL COTTO vs. ANTONIO MARGARITO
ILLUMINATI
07-16-2008, 12:54 PM
yeah..yeah it tooo early..10 days away..I don't GIVE A FUCK!!!!
:partie::partie::partie:
MIGUEL COTTO by TKO 10
Hex-One
07-16-2008, 01:10 PM
yeah..yeah it tooo early..10 days away..I don't GIVE A FUCK!!!!
:partie::partie::partie:
MIGUEL COTTO by TKO 10
Finally!!!!:hammert:
I will go with Cotto tko11 Margarito!
WAR COTTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:partie:
whiskey
07-16-2008, 01:11 PM
Cotto UD.
I think bodypunching will make the difference.
ILLUMINATI
07-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Cotto UD.
I think bodypunching will make the difference.
NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... :rolleyes: ...really? :partie:
Barristan
07-16-2008, 01:15 PM
I'll take Cotto by late KO, hes been looking sharp and Antonio is easy to touch.
I can't even bring myself to make a pick for this fight. I can see ways both guys could win. I don't really care who wins, I just want to watch it.
Xplosive
07-16-2008, 01:30 PM
Cotto TKO 11.
mexican wedding shirt
07-16-2008, 02:21 PM
Cotto UD
REEDsART
07-16-2008, 02:33 PM
Margarita will B Competitive EARLY, but by the 5th or 6th Round, Cotto will him N his BACK POCKET...
From There it'll All Depend on Margarita's Punch Resistance...We ALL Know he has a GOOD Chin, but the POP N Cotto's Punch DOESN'T Dissipate:nono:...EVER!!...
& Over the Course of a Fight, Cotto's Shots Do Looooooongterm, Career SHORTENINIG Damage...
STYLES Make Fights...Knowing this, Margarita is MUCH Tooooooooo EASY to Hit & Cotto is a Fucking MACHINE, Offensively...U Can't BEAT Miguel Cotto by TAKING All he Can Land...That's a Recipe for DISASTER...Honestly, He'll TAG Margarita Almost as EASILY as he Tagged Alfonso Gomez...
Sure, Margarita will ABSORB the Shots Better, but N the Loooooooong Run, he'll Get Worn Down, BATTERED & STOPPED...
The Early Portion of the Fight will B F.O.Y. Type of Shit, but by Rounds 5 or 6, it'll B ALL Cotto...
Cotto by TKO 9...
REED:partie:
Cotto will beat the living hell out of the slow, wide punching mexican brawler.
Easy fight to predict.
Cotto TKO11.
ILLUMINATI
07-16-2008, 03:05 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 9
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 0
holler
07-16-2008, 03:12 PM
Like the Cintron fight, Margarito starts at a faster pace, but Cotto's shorter and more accurate punches win him the early rounds.
Despite getting hit by clean/hard shots from Cotto, Margarito is never swayed and continues his high output, aggressive style, wearing Cotto down in the mid to late rounds.
Like the Shane fight, Cotto tries to box, but Margarito's sheer aggression wins him the later rounds.
The judges feel that Cotto banked enough rounds with his sharper/cleaner punches and award him a 115-113 type decision, despite a large portion of viewers giving it to Margarito based on his aggression.
Cotto UD, BUT the fight will be close and competitive enough where cases can be made for either fighter winning the fight
ILLUMINATI
07-16-2008, 03:14 PM
Like the Cintron fight, Margarito starts at a faster pace, but Cotto's shorter and more accurate punches win him the early rounds.
Despite getting hit by clean/hard shots from Cotto, Margarito is never swayed and continues his high output, aggressive style, wearing Cotto down in the mid to late rounds.
Like the Shane fight, Cotto tries to box, but Margarito's sheer aggression wins him the later rounds.
The judges feel that Cotto banked enough rounds with his sharper/cleaner punches and award him a 115-113 type decision, despite a large portion of viewers giving it to Margarito based on his aggression. The fight will be close and competitive, with cases being made for either fighter winning the fight.
thanx...and fuck the judges....now your prediction...:kick:
Double L
07-16-2008, 03:18 PM
Margarita will B Competitive EARLY, but by the 5th or 6th Round, Cotto will him N his BACK POCKET...
From There it'll All Depend on Margarita's Punch Resistance...We ALL Know he has a GOOD Chin, but the POP N Cotto's Punch DOESN'T Dissipate:nono:...EVER!!...
& Over the Course of a Fight, Cotto's Shots Do Looooooongterm, Career SHORTENINIG Damage...
STYLES Make Fights...Knowing this, Margarita is MUCH Tooooooooo EASY to Hit & Cotto is a Fucking MACHINE, Offensively...U Can't BEAT Miguel Cotto by TAKING All he Can Land...That's a Recipe for DISASTER...Honestly, He'll TAG Margarita Almost as EASILY as he Tagged Alfonso Gomez...
Sure, Margarita will ABSORB the Shots Better, but N the Loooooooong Run, he'll Get Worn Down, BATTERED & STOPPED...
The Early Portion of the Fight will B F.O.Y. Type of Shit, but by Rounds 5 or 6, it'll B ALL Cotto...
Cotto by TKO 9...
REED:partie:
ha ha ha !!!! you're gonna bring up the Gomez fight? Like it has anything to do with this? Tony's gonna tear him up. You'll see.
rom your description of Cotto, I guess it's understandable PBF has ducked him.
BTW, f
Caligula II
07-16-2008, 03:20 PM
Margarito TKO8
Margarito will start quickly (learning his lesson from the Williams fight) and not let Cotto get into a rhythm. Cotto will still be effective but he'll be eating uppercuts and not be able to stop Tony's momentum. Tony starts to wear him down by round six and then the Cintron style beating begins. Uppercuts, crosses, non stop punches from Tony. Until finally Cotto slumps to the canvas, a beaten fighter. :bears:
Double L
07-16-2008, 03:24 PM
Margarito TKO8
Margarito will start quickly (learning his lesson from the Williams fight) and not let Cotto get into a rhythm. Cotto will still be effective but he'll be eating uppercuts and not be able to stop Tony's momentum. Tony starts to wear him down by round six and then the Cintron style beating begins. Uppercuts, crosses, non stop punches from Tony. Until finally Cotto slumps to the canvas, a beaten fighter. :bears:
:cheer::cheer:
Hex-One
07-16-2008, 03:58 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/Ericaldovino/Antonio-Margarito-2.jpg
holler
07-16-2008, 04:04 PM
thanx...and fuck the judges....now your prediction...:kick: my bad i edited it with my prediction
Baron
07-16-2008, 04:06 PM
Cotto by UD
Double L
07-16-2008, 04:10 PM
cotto is so over-rated....
Hex-One
07-16-2008, 04:13 PM
cotto is so over-rated.... If Cotto beats the shit out of Margarito and KHTFO would you change your mind?
ILLUMINATI
07-16-2008, 04:19 PM
If Cotto beats the shit out of Margarito and KHTFO would you change your mind?
If Cotto box and wins a decision....Double-L "COTTO won by using STINK".....I can't think of what LL will come up with when Cotto KO's Margarito....:kick:
IronDanLaw
07-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Cotto UD.
Hex-One
07-16-2008, 04:35 PM
Even though I'm picking Cotto to stop Margarito by the 11th round it's hard to imagine Margarito go down! I have never seen him hurt. Only time I ever seen him get stunned was by Daniel Santos @154 and fightnight Santos was @160+. I cant wait!
ILLUMINATI
07-16-2008, 05:10 PM
Even though I'm picking Cotto to stop Margarito by the 11th round it's hard to imagine Margarito go down! I have never seen him hurt. Only time I ever seen him get stunned was by Daniel Santos @154 and fightnight Santos was @160+. I cant wait!
Have you ever seen CASINO.....?..in one of the last scenes Joe Pesci has a meeting with some guys in a cornfield...well anyway...Cotto will be teh guys with the baseball BATS...Margarito's rib cage will be beaten to mush...
Margarito to do to Cotto what Tszyu did to Judah.
TKO 2.
I have to say I'm really suprised here!!
I have been a margarito fan for a long time.. and only recently started appreciating Cotto..
that said.. I don't think Margarito has a shot in hell. Cotto is gonna beat him down and stop him
jaws1216
07-16-2008, 07:58 PM
Cotto by decision
Rubio MHS
07-16-2008, 08:04 PM
Cotto by decision.
Roll With The Punches
07-16-2008, 08:20 PM
Cotto UD
panchyprsss
07-16-2008, 08:59 PM
Cotto by Split Decision. There will be one sole knockdown and that will be Cotto's butt on the canvas. Still he will get the decision.
KaukipRrr
07-16-2008, 09:48 PM
I think the main element that will be EXPOSED in this fight, will be the myth that Cotto is this unstoppable hard headed Marciano-type of squat bulldozer as he bucks upwards like a panicking stallion, cranks into reverse gear, and runs like a hurt bitch as the rounds come to a close,..
With the way bitter Fraud and Cotto groupies have spoken about Antonio, it'll be a tremendous victory just watching Cotto run, like we all know he really will ;) ,...regardless of the decision.
My prediction is Cotto runs, that's all that matters to me, I mean it would be intruiging to post in an unfinished round by round :lol:, on a vacant windswept messageboard if Margarito won, ......but to just have Cotto running away will BUST this stupid myth, and enhance Antonio's reputation as the REAL hard headed 'bulldozer' of the welterweight division.
Anthony
07-16-2008, 10:03 PM
Cotto UD. Will win by a comfortable 5 rounds.
Andrew
07-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Cotto KO3
Anthony
07-16-2008, 10:11 PM
Cotto KO3
DAMN really?
Rainmaker
07-17-2008, 02:15 AM
Sinan Samil Cotto by KO 9
REEDsART
07-17-2008, 05:12 AM
ha ha ha !!!! you're gonna bring up the Gomez fight? Like it has anything to do with this? Tony's gonna tear him up. You'll see.
rom your description of Cotto, I guess it's understandable PBF has ducked him.
BTW, f
Obviously, Margarita's a BETTER Fighter than Alfonso, but do U Honestly, HONESTLY Think Margarita's DEFENSE is Any Better???...
It ISN'T...
Margarita TAKES more Hits than a Popular Website, which is PRECISELY Why he'll LOSE...
REED:mj:
Obviously, Margarita's a BETTER Fighter than Alfonso, but do U Honestly, HONESTLY Think Margarita's DEFENSE is Any Better???...
It ISN'T...
Margarita TAKES more Hits than a Popular Website, which is PRECISELY Why he'll LOSE...
REED:mj:
Margairta can take a punch better than Alfonso but IMO his defense is slightly better aswell.
But this makes no difference Cotto KO6
ILLUMINATI
07-17-2008, 07:33 AM
I think the main element that will be EXPOSED in this fight, will be the myth that Cotto is this unstoppable hard headed Marciano-type of squat bulldozer as he bucks upwards like a panicking stallion, cranks into reverse gear, and runs like a hurt bitch as the rounds come to a close,..
With the way bitter Fraud and Cotto groupies have spoken about Antonio, it'll be a tremendous victory just watching Cotto run, like we all know he really will ;) ,...regardless of the decision.
My prediction is Cotto runs, that's all that matters to me, I mean it would be intruiging to post in an unfinished round by round :lol:, on a vacant windswept messageboard if Margarito won, ......but to just have Cotto running away will BUST this stupid myth, and enhance Antonio's reputation as the REAL hard headed 'bulldozer' of the welterweight division.
:boohoo::atu::lol: so after years of you saying MARGARITO would beat COTTO and/or MAYWEATHER...you have finally come to the realization that he will lose.....
"it'll be a tremendous victory just watching Cotto run, like we all know he really will ;) ,...regardless of the decision."
ILLUMINATI
07-17-2008, 07:43 AM
MIGUEL COTTO: 21
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 2
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
REEDsART
07-17-2008, 08:36 AM
:boohoo::atu::lol: so after years of you saying MARGARITO would beat COTTO and/or MAYWEATHER...you have finally come to the realization that he will lose.....
"it'll be a tremendous victory just watching Cotto run, like we all know he really will ;) ,...regardless of the decision."
Yep...
Kauki's WUSSING OUT...If Cotto Doesn't HANDICAP himself & FOOLISHLY Gets into a Toe-to-Toe Slugfest w/Margarita, Kauki will Claim a MORAL Victory for Margarita...
But when U're a Tszyu, Abdullaev, Taylor & Margarita Fan, U Get USED to Moral Victories...
It's NOT Cotto's Fault that Margarita is 1 Dimensional...So WHY Should Cotto Play his Game???....
REED:mj:
Erratic
07-17-2008, 09:41 AM
I think Cotto will use the ring and box and pick his spots effectively. Margarito will force him to fight at times, but Cotto will hold his own in that fashion as well with his shorter, quicker, crisp shots. Cotto will take his lumps, eat some of Margarito's uppercuts, maybe get stunned a couple times, but emerge with a UD, 8-4 (twice), and 8-3-1.
Double L
07-17-2008, 09:56 AM
MIGUEL COTTO: 21
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 2
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
My pick is Margarito. Are you not counting it for some reason?
Cotto will beat Marg
then we'll see Cotto STOP DLH
then we'll see Floyd come back to fight Cotto and TOTALLY DOMINATe him
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:00 AM
I love how people are acting like Cotto's height in this case will be an advantage. :atu:
Hello? The guy is like 5'8" at best !!! Margarito is at least 4" taller than him and much lankier. You think this won't work to his advantage? The guy is a brave and savage fighter but he's not stupid. He's not going to stand in Cotto's wheel house if he doesn't have to. Margarito knows how to use his height when he has to and does so very effectively. Everyone will see this next week when Cotto is peppered from the outside, forced to bore his way in, and eat obtuse and sick upper-cuts for his trouble.
Also, Cotto's body-punching will be compromised considerably due to Margarito's height advantage. This will be the biggest guy Cotto has ever faced and certainly the most dangerous. He's so over-rated it's hilarious. :laughing:
Baron
07-17-2008, 10:05 AM
I love how people are acting like Cotto's height in this case will be an advantage. :atu:
Hello? The guy is like 5'8" at best !!! Margarito is at least 4" taller than him and much lankier. You think this won't work to his advantage? The guy is a brave and savage fighter but he's not stupid. He's not going to stand in Cotto's wheel house if he doesn't have to. Margarito knows how to use his height when he has to and does so very effectively. Everyone will see this next week when Cotto is peppered from the outside, forced to bore his way in, and eat obtuse and sick upper-cuts for his trouble.
Also, Cotto's body-punching will be compromised considerably due to Margarito's height advantage. This will be the biggest guy Cotto has ever faced and certainly the most dangerous. He's so over-rated it's hilarious. :laughing:
Will you disappear forever if Cotto dominates Margarito?
Will you disappear forever if Cotto dominates Margarito?
he IS gonna dominate
for one..
Marg is tall but SLOW!!
Cotto will be SO much faster in there and he WILL get to marg's long ass body
jaws1216
07-17-2008, 10:12 AM
I will say that all the evidence about how this fight should go points to a cotto decision, because of the way miguel has been working off the back foot.
However, if this fight gets turned into a brawl look for Cotto to knock him out late
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:21 AM
Will you disappear forever if Cotto dominates Margarito?
Will you transform somehow from being the total prick that you are if Cotto doesn't dominate him?
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:23 AM
I will say that all the evidence about how this fight should go points to a cotto decision, because of the way miguel has been working off the back foot.
However, if this fight gets turned into a brawl look for Cotto to knock him out late
how the fk is Cotto going to beat Margarito off the back foot? WTF?
jaws1216
07-17-2008, 10:26 AM
how the fk is Cotto going to beat Margarito off the back foot? WTF?
by landing punches to the face.
If he can box evenly/outbox shane mosley even in 2007/2008, he will havee no problems moving and outboxing margarito.
The key to this fight, and for those who I've talked to in depth about this fight, some like Ike have done a 180 on it and now agree that Cotto will win, but the key is that Margarito is VERY slow.
He's a big target for Cotto, he's slow handed, and he's in for a beating of some fashion, depending on the flow of the fight.
ILLUMINATI
07-17-2008, 10:30 AM
My pick is Margarito. Are you not counting it for some reason?
I did see a prediction...from you....all you had was :bears::bears::bears: after Caligula II post......does that mean you are going with his prediction..or just like the way he said the fight might go in his dreams...
Baron
07-17-2008, 10:31 AM
Will you transform somehow from being the total prick that you are if Cotto doesn't dominate him?
Doubtful.
KaukipRrr
07-17-2008, 10:34 AM
Yep...
Kauki's WUSSING OUT...If Cotto Doesn't HANDICAP himself & FOOLISHLY Gets into a Toe-to-Toe Slugfest w/Margarita, Kauki will Claim a MORAL Victory for Margarita...
But when U're a Tszyu, Abdullaev, Taylor & Margarita Fan, U Get USED to Moral Victories...
It's NOT Cotto's Fault that Margarita is 1 Dimensional...So WHY Should Cotto Play his Game???....
REED:mj:
Uh uh uh uh :nono: , lest you forget, you were an Abdullaev fan too once,...... and I also stated most pompously that Fraud could run and illegally backtwist his way to a decision victory over Wladimir Klitschko, aswell as anyone else,..with his illegal shoulder roll shit.
I dont have an issue with anyone taking the smart bet on Cotto by decision, and the official odds will no doubt reflect that, but too many bitter Fraud groupies, through gritted teeth, are claiming Cotto will STEAM ROLL his arse and knock him the fuck out,..I think most of you really know that it's unlikely to happen, considering the opposition that have lasted the distance with Cotto, or worse, HAVE MADE COTTO REEL BACKWARDS HURTING :crafty:,..so why wouldn't it be a victory for me to have Cotto backpeddling exactly the way Fraud does?, you groupies have a stake in Cotto winning brutally through Fraud, so it is basically Fraud in the ring with Antonio for me aswell, I want Cotto to emulate Fraud, and I think he will,..:crafty: Antonio being smacked flush in the face is endearing to me, I like him that way, nobody, especially you Fraud groupies, will keep the motherfucker down, he'll plod forward through all your heartbroken vitriol.
Baron
07-17-2008, 10:34 AM
Jaws, WTF?
Alabama Man a.k.a Rubio MHS a.k.a. Big Bad John a.k.a. Decagon:dunno:
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:34 AM
I did see a prediction...from you....all you had was :bears::bears::bears: after Caligula II post......does that mean you are going with his prediction..or just like the way he said the fight might go in his dreams...
I think in the post I made prior to my celebration of his I made it fairly clear that I was picking Margarito. I said, "he'd tear Cotto up." Either way, mark me down as picking Margarito. He's going to win and shock the world. And my guess is Cotto will start crying when he loses. :lol:
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:36 AM
Doubtful.
I'd say impossible (that you could transform from being a prick).
KaukipRrr
07-17-2008, 10:38 AM
:boohoo::atu::lol: so after years of you saying MARGARITO would beat COTTO and/or MAYWEATHER...you have finally come to the realization that he will lose.....
"it'll be a tremendous victory just watching Cotto run, like we all know he really will ;) ,...regardless of the decision."
"Cruise with smart skills",.. :laughing: I never heard a better alternative you woodknip.
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:40 AM
by landing punches to the face.
If he can box evenly/outbox shane mosley even in 2007/2008, he will havee no problems moving and outboxing margarito.
The key to this fight, and for those who I've talked to in depth about this fight, some like Ike have done a 180 on it and now agree that Cotto will win, but the key is that Margarito is VERY slow.
He's a big target for Cotto, he's slow handed, and he's in for a beating of some fashion, depending on the flow of the fight.
Margarito is slower than average but he has heavy hands and throws so often and in such combination that it's as if he has hand-speed.
Cotto's gonna feel something he's never felt before when Margarito starts thrashing him with upper-cuts and long right hands to the throat.
jaws1216
07-17-2008, 10:48 AM
Margarito is slower than average but he has heavy hands and throws so often and in such combination that it's as if he has hand-speed.
Cotto's gonna feel something he's never felt before when Margarito starts thrashing him with upper-cuts and long right hands to the throat.
Joshua Clottey, who I feel is a flashy piece of poop, was killing Margarito for 5 rounds with handspeed and sharp counters.
Miguel Cotto is a very good counterpuncher, and with a wide open target whose throwing alot and leaving alot of openings, I see nothing but bad things in Margarito's future
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:50 AM
Cotto will deserve a lot of credit if he beats Margarito - it'd be funny as hell to see him fight Williams after that. But of course, Arum has strategically lured Williams away from that possibility by calling him up to middle-weight, and probably paying him more than he's worth to fight Pavlik, while sparing his Puerto Rican star a probable loss at 147 (if he gets by Tony somehow of course).
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:51 AM
"flashy piece of poop"
:atu::atu:
ILLUMINATI
07-17-2008, 10:51 AM
I love how people are acting like Cotto's height in this case will be an advantage. :atu:
Hello? The guy is like 5'8" at best !!! Margarito is at least 4" taller than him and much lankier. You think this won't work to his advantage? The guy is a brave and savage fighter but he's not stupid. He's not going to stand in Cotto's wheel house if he doesn't have to. Margarito knows how to use his height when he has to and does so very effectively. Everyone will see this next week when Cotto is peppered from the outside, forced to bore his way in, and eat obtuse and sick upper-cuts for his trouble.
Also, Cotto's body-punching will be compromised considerably due to Margarito's height advantage. This will be the biggest guy Cotto has ever faced and certainly the most dangerous. He's so over-rated it's hilarious. :laughing:
Okay...so Margarito can box with Cotto..using his height/reach advantage..?? GOOD so when Cotto wins..either by KO or Decision..you can't say COTTO used STINK..because according to you Margarito can used his height/reach advantage and make Cotto come to him...
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:52 AM
Joshua Clottey, who I feel is a flashy piece of poop, was killing Margarito for 5 rounds with handspeed and sharp counters.
Miguel Cotto is a very good counterpuncher, and with a wide open target whose throwing alot and leaving alot of openings, I see nothing but bad things in Margarito's future
yeah until Margarito's assault began to pile up and Clottey was forced to fake an injury and grapple his way to survival.
ILLUMINATI
07-17-2008, 10:54 AM
Cotto will deserve a lot of credit if he beats Margarito - it'd be funny as hell to see him fight Williams after that. But of course, Arum has strategically lured Williams away from that possibility by calling him up to middle-weight, and probably paying him more than he's worth to fight Pavlik, while sparing his Puerto Rican star a probable loss at 147 (if he gets by Tony somehow of course).
:lol::laughing: please.....now that the fight is a few days away and Margarito will be defeated....NOW it's the perfect time to start pumping up the next guy that Cotto is afraid of or would lose to...Williams...
Williams is shit and Cotto will KO him easier than Margarito..
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:55 AM
Okay...so Margarito can box with Cotto..using his height/reach advantage..?? GOOD so when Cotto wins..either by KO or Decision..you can't say COTTO used STINK..because according to you Margarito can used his height/reach advantage and make Cotto come to him...
Cotto won't use stink. At least I've never seen him resort to it before. Heck he didn't even hold Torres when he was damn near out on his feet. And when N'dou was walking him down, nearly running him out of the ring, he didn't use stink. So I'm not anticipating such a scenario.
Baron
07-17-2008, 10:56 AM
I'd say impossible (that you could transform from being a prick).Why so much hate Double? I thought we were buddies!:partie:
joony
07-17-2008, 10:56 AM
yeah until Margarito's assault began to pile up and Clottey was forced to fake an injury and grapple his way to survival.
he wasn't faking it. everyone at ringside knew when it happened. his wife was screaming at him, telling him not to quit.
anyhow, clottey has an iron chin and if anything the guy is tough as hell.
cotto's vulnerable and was fortunate old ass shane couldnt pull the trigger.
i can see cotto winning a close decision, but i also see margarito punishing him in the later rounds and i'm not sure if cotto will be able to survive those uppercuts against the ropes.
jaws1216
07-17-2008, 10:57 AM
Jaws, WTF?
:dunno:
just a theory of mine
Double L
07-17-2008, 10:57 AM
Why so much hate Double? I thought we were buddies!:partie:
you've basically requested that I disappear forever, and now we're buddies? Get real. You have a hard-on for me for some reason. Not my fault. But don't pretend we're buddies. :lol:
Baron
07-17-2008, 10:59 AM
you've basically requested that I disappear forever, and now we're buddies? Get real. You have a hard-on for me for some reason. Not my fault. But don't pretend we're buddies. :lol:
That was a honest question, from a friend to a friend. :dunno:
Double L
07-17-2008, 11:02 AM
That was a honest question, from a friend to a friend. :dunno:
you've made it clear you expect Cotto to dominate Margarito. And then you propose I disappear forever when and if he does? Honest question or not, I wouldn't characterize it as one you'd ask of a friend. Would you?
If the sun goes down tonight, will you shove a knife in your stomach and bleed to death on your kitchen floor?
jaws is right on here
Marg is just slow as mollassas and Cotto is gonna eat his asshole alive..
his long gay tall body will be a target for Cotto
Baron
07-17-2008, 11:04 AM
you've made it clear you expect Cotto to dominate Margarito. And then you propose I disappear forever when and if he does? Honest question or not, I wouldn't characterize it as one you'd ask of a friend. Would you?
If the sun goes down tonight, will you shove a knife in your stomach and bleed to death on your kitchen floor?
Where did I make that clear? I've picked Cotto by UD, personnally I expect a close fight. Seriously, you got me wrong, I'm not suggesting you to leave if Margarito gets dominated, I'm wondering if you'll leave considering how confident you are about your pick. You seem pretty sure Marg will make Cotto look like a fragile overrated fighter, hence the question. He's your last man after all...
Baron
07-17-2008, 11:05 AM
Oh, and I forgot to answer your friendly question : doubtful.
I'm callin it not close at all
I think it will be a FOTY canidate.. a little back and forth but Cotto will really start to dish out a beating and the only reason Marg will look impressive is the amount of punishment he will take
mark my words
Cotto will EAT HIS ASSHOLE ALIVE!!!!
Double L
07-17-2008, 11:10 AM
I'm callin it not close at all
I think it will be a FOTY canidate.. a little back and forth but Cotto will really start to dish out a beating and the only reason Marg will look impressive is the amount of punishment he will take
mark my words
Cotto will EAT HIS ASSHOLE ALIVE!!!!
you must like eating butt. sicko. :lol:
you must like eating butt. sicko. :lol:
me?
I'm sayin COTTO will eat him alive.. eat his asshole alive..
nothing to do with me
Xplosive
07-17-2008, 12:30 PM
If Cotto beats the shit out of Margarito and KHTFO would you change your mind?
Nope! He'll simply start making excuses.
REEDsART
07-17-2008, 12:32 PM
Uh uh uh uh :nono: , lest you forget, you were an Abdullaev fan too once,...... and I also stated most pompously that Fraud could run and illegally backtwist his way to a decision victory over Wladimir Klitschko, aswell as anyone else,..with his illegal shoulder roll shit.
I dont have an issue with anyone taking the smart bet on Cotto by decision, and the official odds will no doubt reflect that, but too many bitter Fraud groupies, through gritted teeth, are claiming Cotto will STEAM ROLL his arse and knock him the fuck out,..I think most of you really know that it's unlikely to happen, considering the opposition that have lasted the distance with Cotto, or worse, HAVE MADE COTTO REEL BACKWARDS HURTING :crafty:,..so why wouldn't it be a victory for me to have Cotto backpeddling exactly the way Fraud does?, you groupies have a stake in Cotto winning brutally through Fraud, so it is basically Fraud in the ring with Antonio for me aswell, I want Cotto to emulate Fraud, and I think he will,..:crafty: Antonio being smacked flush in the face is endearing to me, I like him that way, nobody, especially you Fraud groupies, will keep the motherfucker down, he'll plod forward through all your heartbroken vitriol.
Margarita's DADDY & GRANDDADDY (Paul Williams & Daniel Santos) "Kept him Down"...
"Ya'll Musta Forgot"...
REED:hammert:
Hex-One
07-17-2008, 12:38 PM
I know Tito has nothing to do with this fight but I can't stop thinking about the beating Tito would have layed on Margarito. The shit would have been career ending! Can you imagine Margarito eating a prime Tito's shots @147?
Tito would have been arrested for such a brutal beating.:hammert:
panchyprsss
07-17-2008, 02:50 PM
I know Tito has nothing to do with this fight but I can't stop thinking about the beating Tito would have layed on Margarito. The shit would have been career ending! Can you imagine Margarito eating a prime Tito's shots @147?
Tito would have been arrested for such a brutal beating.:hammert:
None of the current welters, including Cotto, could had lasted the distance with Tito.
panchyprsss
07-17-2008, 02:59 PM
I think the main element that will be EXPOSED in this fight, will be the myth that Cotto is this unstoppable hard headed Marciano-type of squat bulldozer as he bucks upwards like a panicking stallion, cranks into reverse gear, and runs like a hurt bitch as the rounds come to a close,..
With the way bitter Fraud and Cotto groupies have spoken about Antonio, it'll be a tremendous victory just watching Cotto run, like we all know he really will ;) ,...regardless of the decision.
My prediction is Cotto runs, that's all that matters to me, I mean it would be intruiging to post in an unfinished round by round :lol:, on a vacant windswept messageboard if Margarito won, ......but to just have Cotto running away will BUST this stupid myth, and enhance Antonio's reputation as the REAL hard headed 'bulldozer' of the welterweight division.
Cow: Don't you think it will be an equal moral victory for Cotto if he drops Margarito's butt on the canvas, regardless of the outcome?:popcorn:
Hex-One
07-17-2008, 03:18 PM
None of the current welters, including Cotto, could had lasted the distance with Tito.
:bears::bears::bears:
Double L
07-17-2008, 04:48 PM
t would've taken tito to the brink, depending on the extent to which his hands were illegally wrapped....
Baron
07-17-2008, 06:22 PM
Who's t Double L? A hot prospect?
bigdawg
07-17-2008, 09:40 PM
This is fight will be potiential fight of the year. Yeah I know that everyone is thinking that Cotto is going to destroy Margarito but Margarito is a tough SOB. I can see this being a very tough scrap with both fighters having their moments. Hell I can picture a Castillo/Corrales type of war with Cotto pulling out a close decision but the fans demanding an immediate rematch due to the fight being an instant classic. I'll Holla 5000
Hex-One
07-18-2008, 04:26 AM
This is fight will be potiential fight of the year. Yeah I know that everyone is thinking that Cotto is going to destroy Margarito but Margarito is a tough SOB. I can see this being a very tough scrap with both fighters having their moments. Hell I can picture a Castillo/Corrales type of war with Cotto pulling out a close decision but the fans demanding an immediate rematch due to the fight being an instant classic. I'll Holla 5000
I agree, this can turn out to be a war, but Cotto has hinted on boxing Margarito which is very smart. If Cotto gets lured into a brawl it will be a war for sure!!! I expect Cotto to power box!
IMDAZED
07-18-2008, 04:44 AM
Cotto is so versatile, it's hard to pick against him. And Margarito's ribs have a huge target on them. Plus, the difference in hand speed is gonna be telling.
However, one thing gnaws at me and that's Miguel's incredibly average defense. He gets tagged by everyone - I don't think he can afford to take many Margarito bombs because he's gonna be throwing each one with conviction.
If there's ever been a fight where Margarito could be stopped, it's this one. He's gonna go out on his shield, methinks and that's gonna lead to some great action. It's also that same mentality that could see Cotto on his back.
it will be a war.. I think! Great fight with Marg taking a severe beating and ultimatly colasping.. he'll probably think of retiring after this fight.. he'll prolly talk about how he does not want to end up slurring and drooling.. he'll talk about how he wants a future outside of boxing and he realized that he cant do any more in the sport
mexican wedding shirt
07-18-2008, 05:27 AM
Cotto is so versatile, it's hard to pick against him. And Margarito's ribs have a huge target on them. Plus, the difference in hand speed is gonna be telling.
However, one thing gnaws at me and that's Miguel's incredibly average defense. He gets tagged by everyone - I don't think he can afford to take many Margarito bombs because he's gonna be throwing each one with conviction.
If there's ever been a fight where Margarito could be stopped, it's this one. He's gonna go out on his shield, methinks and that's gonna lead to some great action. It's also that same mentality that could see Cotto on his back.
Cotto's defense is much, much better than Marge's.
He didn't look that hittable to me against both Judah AND Mosley, 2 very fast handed fighters, much faster than Marge.
Cotto used to look more hittable, I think his defense has improved.
I think Margarito should spend his time this week wisely..
maybe fly to Mexico and try to get tips from some local tacorias.. maybe how to make tacos and how to wrapp buritos.. that way after he gets battered. .he can go back there and he'll know people already! he can start working right away
boxingnotboxers
07-18-2008, 07:53 AM
Cotto by UD. He brings more to the party. He has some movement, he has improved his ability to fight at a distance, and he can pass a brief test every two or three rounds or so when Margarito corners him. Margarito has determination...and that's it. But it's an incredible amount of determination. Okay, I'm downplaying a bit (obviously he has great infighting ability and a good chin) but I think this fight is not going to be in the trenches enough for him to win.
ILLUMINATI
07-18-2008, 08:27 AM
MIGUEL COTTO: 25
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
joony: Cotto by Decision
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 3
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
Baron
07-18-2008, 08:29 AM
I'm amazed at the predictions right now. Margarito is an underdog, but not as much as the picks would lead you to think. If the odds look like the fightbeat prediction thread, I'll lay some money on Margarito even though I'll be 100% behind Cotto.
ILLUMINATI
07-18-2008, 08:35 AM
I'm amazed at the predictions right now. Margarito is an underdog, but not as much as the picks would lead you to think. If the odds look like the fightbeat prediction thread, I'll lay some money on Margarito even though I'll be 100% behind Cotto.
I dont' know what happens to all the guys saying Margarito would pound on Cotto and/or Mayweather..if they just man up and fought him..now that a ELITE fighter gives Margarito the shot..they pick the other guy.......I know it mosta been more than the 3 guys picking Margarito at the moment.....even Kaukip the biggest Margarito supporter is now talking about "If Margarito makes Cotto box and move would be a victory in itself...regardless of the decision.." :doh::partie:
IMDAZED
07-18-2008, 08:39 AM
Cotto's defense is much, much better than Marge's.
He didn't look that hittable to me against both Judah AND Mosley, 2 very fast handed fighters, much faster than Marge.
Cotto used to look more hittable, I think his defense has improved.
When did I say Margarito had a better defense?
And, unlike Judah and Mosley, Margarito will be throwing punches every single second.
joony
07-18-2008, 08:47 AM
MIGUEL COTTO: 25
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
joony: Cotto by Decision
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 3
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
at first i said cotto via controversial decision. i change my pick to margarito by late stoppage.
mexican wedding shirt
07-18-2008, 08:54 AM
When did I say Margarito had a better defense?
And, unlike Judah and Mosley, Margarito will be throwing punches every single second.
To list defense as a minus point for Cotto, I assumed you felt Marge's was better.
By the way, I think you'll be surprised at how Marge's workrate drops DRAMATICALLY after getting stung by some hard, accurate counters by Cotto.
:lol: at "throwing punches every single second".
It won't be anything of the kind, just wait and see.
If it was williams fighting, I would tend to agree.
Williams and Clottey proved that marge ISN'T prepared to walk through fire in the same way that someone like Morales is.
His workrate is going to be reduced to that of an average one after some sharp counters.
Mararito is like Tua in that regard - great chin - but just doesn't quite have the guts it takes to walk through fire and keep up a high workrate in the face of a vicious assault.
And for old time's sake, let me just add - I don't think Marge is a gutless pussy, purely that he DOESN'T quite the guts that some of you seem to think, he is not the sort of hardcore mexican warrior that Morales or Vargas was.
IMDAZED
07-18-2008, 08:59 AM
To list defense as a minus point for Cotto, I assumed you felt Marge's was better.
By the way, I think you'll be surprised at how Marge's workrate drops DRAMATICALLY after getting stung by some hard, accurate counters by Cotto.
:lol: at "throwing punches every single second".
It won't be anything of the kind, just wait and see.
If it was williams fighting, I would tend to agree.
Williams and Clottey proved that marge ISN'T prepared to walk through fire in the same way that someone like Morales is.
His workrate is going to be reduced to that of an average one after some sharp counters.
Mararito is like Tua in that regard - great chin - but just doesn't quite have the guts it takes to walk through fire and keep up a high workrate in the face of a vicious assault.
That's interesting. I'd advise you to go back and see how many punches Margarito threw against both fighters. Maybe that'll change your mind - although I don't know how Clottey proved Margarito wasn't ready to walk through "fire." I seem to remember the last half of the fight consisting mostly of Clottey whimpering in a corner as Margarito unloaded.
And yes, I agree that counters will slow him down. Margarito's the type to throw while you're throwing - I don't think he can take too many from Miguel but I don't know what Miguel can take from him either.
Aww man, I just read that last line about "guts." This corny sh*t again? For a moment I thought we could talk boxing.
Double L
07-18-2008, 08:59 AM
q is what cotto do after he's thrashed and cries in front of millions over his loss? will he challenge j. diaz for the title of biggest vry-baby loser? poor evangelista will be so embarrassed by cotto's pussy tears.
Baron
07-18-2008, 09:01 AM
q is what cotto do after he's thrashed and cries in front of millions over his loss? will he challenge j. diaz for the title of biggest vry-baby loser? poor evangelista will be so embarrassed by cotto's pussy tears.Try to post while being sober next time. From a friend to a friend.
IMDAZED
07-18-2008, 09:01 AM
Cotto by UD. He brings more to the party. He has some movement, he has improved his ability to fight at a distance, and he can pass a brief test every two or three rounds or so when Margarito corners him. Margarito has determination...and that's it. But it's an incredible amount of determination. Okay, I'm downplaying a bit (obviously he has great infighting ability and a good chin) but I think this fight is not going to be in the trenches enough for him to win.
Agreed. Although some would argue he doesn't quite have the guts/determination.
steve_dave
07-18-2008, 09:05 AM
q is what cotto do after he's thrashed and cries in front of millions over his loss? will he challenge j. diaz for the title of biggest vry-baby loser? poor evangelista will be so embarrassed by cotto's pussy tears.
This forum was way better when you weren't posting.
ILLUMINATI
07-18-2008, 09:15 AM
MIGUEL COTTO: 24
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 4
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
mexican wedding shirt
07-18-2008, 09:19 AM
That's interesting. I'd advise you to go back and see how many punches Margarito threw against both fighters. Maybe that'll change your mind - although I don't know how Clottey proved Margarito wasn't ready to walk through "fire." I seem to remember the last half of the fight consisting mostly of Clottey whimpering in a corner as Margarito unloaded.
And yes, I agree that counters will slow him down. Margarito's the type to throw while you're throwing - I don't think he can take too many from Miguel but I don't know what Miguel can take from him either.
Aww man, I just read that last line about "guts." This corny sh*t again? For a moment I thought we could talk boxing.
:lol: :lol:
It's a fair point though, and we are talking boxing.
I'm just mentioning it because I think it'll be a factor in this fight.
Let's face it, the one chance margarito has is by outgutting and outlasting cotto right? And just with sheer determination.
Personally I don't think Marge is capable of it against a fighter like Cotto.
He looks determinated against average fighters like Cintron, but against a fighter like Cotto essentially I think Marge is going to be tamed.
The only slight concern for cotto fans is the fact that marge is the biggest fighter he has faced. Despite his size though, I think Mosley is not only stronger, but just a superior all round fighter.
But hey, size is but one factor. Tarver was the biggest guy Nard faced, Diaz was the biggest guy pacman faced etc, and we saw what happened there.
Hitman
07-18-2008, 09:36 AM
Can't wait for this match. I expect an excellent high-level brawl and Cotto wins a clear-cut hard-fought (insert another hyphenated adjective here) decision.
hoping for a late round ko tho, those are my favourite types of battles
IMDAZED
07-18-2008, 09:38 AM
:lol: :lol:
It's a fair point though, and we are talking boxing.
I'm just mentioning it because I think it'll be a factor in this fight.
Let's face it, the one chance margarito has is by outgutting and outlasting cotto right? And just with sheer determination.
Personally I don't think Marge is capable of it against a fighter like Cotto.
He looks determinated against average fighters like Cintron, but against a fighter like Cotto essentially I think Marge is going to be tamed.
The only slight concern for cotto fans is the fact that marge is the biggest fighter he has faced. Despite his size though, I think Mosley is not only stronger, but just a superior all round fighter.
But hey, size is but one factor. Tarver was the biggest guy Nard faced, Diaz was the biggest guy pacman faced etc, and we saw what happened there.
It's a ridiculous point that makes you sound like a nincompoop. "Margarito has no guts." Or are you gonna amend that to "average" guts? Whatever, let's not go there!
Either way, it's a great fight and I'm psyched for it. And I won't be surprised to see either fighter win.
Cotto is gonna eat his asshole alive!:mj:
Rubio MHS
07-18-2008, 11:05 AM
Double L: Margarito by ??
**Runs and puts next month's rent on Cotto**
Anthony
07-18-2008, 12:32 PM
**Runs and puts next month's rent on Cotto**
But lok is picking Cotto Think hard about that rent check
Octopus
07-18-2008, 12:33 PM
Waiting to see who Teddy Atlas (aka Teddy Kellerman) is going to pick:kick:
Hex-One
07-18-2008, 01:51 PM
But lok is picking Cotto Think hard about that rent check his has be a little worried :lol:
whiskey
07-18-2008, 01:59 PM
But lok is picking Cotto Think hard about that rent check
Shit. Looks like a no contest caused by an unintentional headbutt. :doh:
But lok is picking Cotto Think hard about that rent check
I picked FLoyd too..
I picked Haye
I picked Wlad..
Baron
07-18-2008, 05:27 PM
I picked FLoyd too..
I picked Haye
I picked Wlad..LOK is back on track!!!!!!!:bears:
Roll With The Punches
07-18-2008, 06:21 PM
everyone is expecting Cotto to win, so it wont be anything special when he does
in fact, if he doesn't win in very impressive fashion it will prove he is a fraud all along
Victory
07-18-2008, 07:47 PM
Margarito via decision or late stoppage.
jarhead
07-18-2008, 07:54 PM
Cotto TKO 9
margarito lovers are in for a shock..
KaukipRrr
07-19-2008, 01:13 AM
Assuming Margarito's gameplan works, he'll make Cotto run, and he'll be undoubtably ROBBED on the cards as he sweeps the late rounds. No way, is Arum having his crown jewell losing.. no way possible!!!.
- Margarito robbed... (Subsection in pink you woodknip)...
Rainmaker
07-19-2008, 02:50 AM
Assuming Margarito's gameplan works, he'll make Cotto run, and he'll be undoubtably ROBBED on the cards as he sweeps the late rounds. No way, is Arum having his crown jewell losing.. no way possible!!!.
- Margarito robbed... (Subsection in pink you woodknip)...
So your official prediction is Cotto by decision ???
ILLUMINATI
07-20-2008, 11:53 AM
MIGUEL COTTO: 26
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 5
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
ILLUMINATI
07-20-2008, 11:56 AM
Assuming Margarito's gameplan works, he'll make Cotto run, and he'll be undoubtably ROBBED on the cards as he sweeps the late rounds. No way, is Arum having his crown jewell losing.. no way possible!!!.
- Margarito robbed... (Subsection in pink you woodknip)...
SO Margarito can lose the first 8 rounds...win 3 of the last 4 and deserve a decision?? :lol::lol::notallthere:
A year ago...Arum was "protecting" Cotto by keeping him away from Marga..now the fight is set and days away...now Arum will "secure" the W for his boy.....after Saturday..Arum will again "protect" his boy by keeping him away from Williams...:rolleyes:
ElTerriblee
07-20-2008, 12:07 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 26
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 5
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Wow. Did Illu fix the predictions? So many wrong predictions. :stir:
ILLUMINATI
07-20-2008, 12:16 PM
Wow. Did Illu fix the predictions? So many wrong predictions. :stir:
alot of folks bitch and said Cotto would get destroyed by Margarito....but now that the fight is near...they come to their senses and can't bullshit themselves anymore.....
Margarito is going to get teh works....:fightme:right cross across the face..left hoook to the body...left uppercut...stinger jab...
even Margarito's biggest supporter....Kaukiprr is not sure about his boy anymore..."he will come on strong late int he fight an be rob"...."Margarito making Cotto move away will be a moral victory"...."seen Cotto "box" and run regardless of the decision..will be worth it"...
:kick:
Antwuan Maxx
07-20-2008, 12:22 PM
Miguelll Angelll by UD, or late round TKO. :cheer:
Pascals Wager
07-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Cotto by close but clear dec
suiteness
07-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Cotto by decision. Just like against Mosley, once he realizes he's not gonna stop Margarito, He will start boxing off the back foot.
Anthony
07-20-2008, 01:39 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 29
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 5
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King 702
07-20-2008, 02:26 PM
Margarito tko 11
ILLUMINATI
07-20-2008, 02:34 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 29
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 5
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
:fightme:no you didn't you sob...:warning:
ILLUMINATI
07-20-2008, 02:35 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 29
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 5
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
adamiw
07-20-2008, 02:52 PM
Cotto KO 12
Anthony
07-20-2008, 03:18 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 30
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
Adamiw: Cotto KO 12
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 6
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
Anthony
07-20-2008, 03:19 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 29
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 5
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
I will take over from here. Your numbers dont even add up. 6 for marg, not 5 :flip::kick:
ILLUMINATI
07-20-2008, 03:42 PM
I will take over from here. Your numbers dont even add up. 6 for marg, not 5 :flip::kick:
:kick:
ILLUMINATI
07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 30
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
adamiw: Cotto by KO 12
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 6
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
BigJohn619
07-20-2008, 10:24 PM
Margarito TKO 12
Anthony
07-20-2008, 10:45 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 30
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
adamiw: Cotto by KO 12
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 7
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
BigJohn619/Matchup Analyzer: Margarito KO 12
TysonFan4Ever
07-21-2008, 03:19 AM
Cotto TKO 8
please add after my pick in the list.. "Margarito will retire afterwards"
ElTerriblee
07-21-2008, 04:13 AM
Margarito by TKO10
This fight will turn around Double Līs life. He gets a prediction right. :cheer:
Anthony
07-21-2008, 06:06 AM
MIGUEL COTTO: 31
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5 (Margarito will retire afterwards)
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
adamiw: Cotto by KO 12
Tysonfan4ever: Cotto TKO 8
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 8
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
BigJohn619/Matchup Analyzer: Margarito KO 12
El Terriblee: Margarito KO 12
Double L
07-21-2008, 07:58 AM
This forum was way better when you weren't posting.
That makes me quite a force doesn't it? Powerful as hell in fact when you consider that I can single handedly degenerate the quality of the forum simply by posting. I'm impressed with my powers. You should be too. Thanks. Oh and go to hell - and you've never added anything to this place anyways so whereas my posting here has worsened the entire forum in your eyes, there's nothing but indifference regarding your presence here.
Double L
07-21-2008, 08:06 AM
Also, what's ridiculous is when one poster wishes the other didn't post because he doesn't agree with his point of view and/or isn't intelligent enough to debate it with him.
My advice to Steve Dave (the dick) is to simply not read my posts. Who's forcing him to do so? Whoever it is, please stop so that I can be spared his adolescent insults.
Baron
07-21-2008, 08:33 AM
You have a pretty thin skin Double L.
Anthony
07-21-2008, 09:21 AM
You have a pretty thin skin Double L.
I agree. what a little bitch
Hex-One
07-21-2008, 09:28 AM
I agree. what a little bitch:lol:
this might be a great fight!!!
Hex-One
07-21-2008, 09:49 AM
this might be a great fight!!! Oh it will be! WAR COTTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bears:
TexMex
07-21-2008, 10:53 AM
Margarito wins ko in 3
Double L
07-21-2008, 11:01 AM
You have a pretty thin skin Double L.
who's the one with the thin skin? apparently, I've managed to single-handedly degrade this forum in Steve Dave's eyes. I'd say that's pretty fucking thin skinned.
and i don't think it's thinned skinned to point out just how much power it puts in my hands the fact that my posting here has somehow ruined Steve Dave's precious moments on the board.
Baron
07-21-2008, 11:24 AM
who's the one with the thin skin? apparently, I've managed to single-handedly degrade this forum in Steve Dave's eyes. I'd say that's pretty fucking thin skinned.
and i don't think it's thinned skinned to point out just how much power it puts in my hands the fact that my posting here has somehow ruined Steve Dave's precious moments on the board.You take all of this way too seriously, we can almost hear you type.
REEDsART
07-21-2008, 11:31 AM
This Fight will Accomplish 2 Things...
1. It will Forever SHATTER the MYTH of Antonio Margarita Being Some "Unstoppable, Determined, Ballsy" Force that Never Takes a Step Backwards & NEVER Stops Throwing Punches...
2. It will PAINFULLY ILLUSTRATE just how Faaaaaaaaar from "Elite" Margarita ALWAYS Was...
REED:bears:
Hex-One
07-21-2008, 11:32 AM
This Fight will Accomplish 2 Things...
1. It will Forever SHATTER the MYTH of Antonio Margarita Being Some "Unstoppable, Determined, Ballsy" Force that Never Takes a Step Backwards & NEVER Stops Throwing Punches...
2. It will PAINFULLY ILLUSTRATE just how Faaaaaaaaar from "Elite" Margarita ALWAYS Was...
REED:bears:
Well said!:bears:
This Fight will Accomplish 2 Things...
1. It will Forever SHATTER the MYTH of Antonio Margarita Being Some "Unstoppable, Determined, Ballsy" Force that Never Takes a Step Backwards & NEVER Stops Throwing Punches...
2. It will PAINFULLY ILLUSTRATE just how Faaaaaaaaar from "Elite" Margarita ALWAYS Was...
REED:bears:
Cotto better blow Margarito out then for your sake. If he so much as gived cotto a good fight you should eat these words.
If Margarito wins, you should slap yourself.
REEDsART
07-21-2008, 11:40 AM
Cotto better blow Margarito out then for your sake. If he so much as gived cotto a good fight you should eat these words.
If Margarito wins, you should slap yourself.
It'll B a "Good", Competitive Fight EARLY...Mainly Cause Cotto's a Relatively SLOW Starter...
By Round 5 or 6, it'll Start to Become 1-Sided...By the 9th, it'll B OVER...
REED's Expecting a 1-Sided "Action" Fight...
& If it Plays Out as REED Thinks, he'll Slap YOU w/his Dick, Aight???...
REED:hammert:
Maverick
07-21-2008, 11:40 AM
Cotto by UD.
Double L
07-21-2008, 12:03 PM
You take all of this way too seriously, we can almost hear you type.
I'm not taking anything too seriously. The guy tells me the forum was better without me - I responded in kind. He's the one who made it personal.
steve_dave
07-21-2008, 02:10 PM
How am I supposed to respond to this garbage?
q is what cotto do after he's thrashed and cries in front of millions over his loss? will he challenge j. diaz for the title of biggest vry-baby loser? poor evangelista will be so embarrassed by cotto's pussy tears.
This kinda crap makes you sound like a little kid, and yes, it takes the quality of boxing discussion down a notch.
steve_dave
07-21-2008, 02:11 PM
I'm not taking anything too seriously. The guy tells me the forum was better without me - I responded in kind. He's the one who made it personal.
It's nothing personal. Since when does the statement of fact have to be personal?
Cotto by DQ in the 10th, after Margarito gets DQ'd for continuing to hit Cotto low.
Yeah, that's right.
TFK
Hex-One
07-21-2008, 02:17 PM
No Vbookie for this fight?:warning:
ElTerriblee
07-21-2008, 02:35 PM
No Vbookie for this fight?:warning:
Option 1: Cotto by KO
Option 2: Cotto by decision
Option 3: Url temporarily not available.
Double L
07-21-2008, 02:46 PM
It's nothing personal. Since when does the statement of fact have to be personal?
ha ha ha !!! u made the ironic and funny suggestion that something as subjective as what i contribute to the forum is somehow fact. you're a one of a kind. you don't remind me of someone i might have had an argument with in grade school on the play-ground.
steve_dave
07-21-2008, 03:17 PM
ha ha ha !!! u made the ironic and funny suggestion that something as subjective as what i contribute to the forum is somehow fact. you're a one of a kind. you don't remind me of someone i might have had an argument with in grade school on the play-ground.
You don't honestly believe your posts and opinions are taken seriously, do you?
I'm done with this though. Sorry I offended you.
Anthony
07-21-2008, 03:48 PM
MIGUEL COTTO: 33
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5 (Margarito will retire afterwards)
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
adamiw: Cotto by KO 12
Tysonfan4ever: Cotto TKO 8
TFK: Cotto by DQ in the 10th (Low Blows)
Maverick: Cotto UD
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 9
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
BigJohn619/Matchup Analyzer: Margarito KO 12
El Terriblee: Margarito KO 12
TexMex: Margarito KO 3
Hex-One
07-21-2008, 03:53 PM
Option 1: Cotto by KO
Option 2: Cotto by decision
Option 3: Url temporarily not available.:lol:
whiskey
07-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Cotto by UD.
He gave your hubcaps back? What's the deal?
Beyond the Grave
07-21-2008, 05:02 PM
Put me down for .......Cotto UD:partie:
Bob N. Weave
07-21-2008, 06:45 PM
Cotto UD
Anthony
07-21-2008, 07:35 PM
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MIGUEL COTTO: 35
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 10
Jake: Cotto by UD
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
whiskey: Cotto by UD
Barristan: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
REEDsART: Cotto by TKO 9
V10: Cotto by TKO 11
holler: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
IronDanLaw: Cotto by UD
jaws1216: Cotto by Decision
Rubio MHS: Cotto by Decision
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
panchyprsss: Cotto by SD
G o d f a t h e r: Cotto by UD
Andrew: Cotto by KO 3
TKO: Cotto by KO 6
Rainmaker: Cotto by KO 9
LOK: Cotto by KO 5 (Margarito will retire afterwards)
Erratic: Cotto by UD
bigdawg: Cotto by Decision
boxingnotboxers: Cotto by UD
Hitman: Cotto by Decision
jarhead: Cotto by TKO 9
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by UD or late round KO
Pascals Wager: Cotto by DEC
suiteness: Cotto by DEC
adamiw: Cotto by KO 12
Tysonfan4ever: Cotto TKO 8
TFK: Cotto by DQ in the 10th (Low Blows)
Maverick: Cotto UD
Beyond The Grave: Cotto UD
Bob N. Weave: Cotto UD
ANTONIO MARGARITO: 9
Caligula II: Margarito by TKO 8
bpg: Margarito by TKO 2
Double L: Margarito by ??
joony: Margarito by KO ??
Victory: Margarito by ??
Ron King: Margarito by TKO 11
BigJohn619/Matchup Analyzer: Margarito KO 12
El Terriblee: Margarito KO 12
TexMex: Margarito KO 3
Anthony
07-21-2008, 07:36 PM
I really didnt think the pick would be so one sided. We cant all be wrong can we? Can i bet the house on cotto?
LATIN KING
07-21-2008, 07:44 PM
Cotto by UD - (Cotto goes down once)
dsimon3387
07-21-2008, 08:32 PM
dsimon writes:
Cotto. He will beat toney up and let Toney stay around. UD.... Cotto has become a man and showed in the Mosley fight he doesn't need the taste of blood. He picks Margarito apart slowly but enough to erase any doubts. Maybe a knock down or two.
KaukipRrr
07-22-2008, 12:37 AM
alot of folks bitch and said Cotto would get destroyed by Margarito....but now that the fight is near...they come to their senses and can't bullshit themselves anymore.....
Margarito is going to get teh works....:fightme:right cross across the face..left hoook to the body...left uppercut...stinger jab...
even Margarito's biggest supporter....Kaukiprr is not sure about his boy anymore..."he will come on strong late int he fight an be rob"...."Margarito making Cotto move away will be a moral victory"...."seen Cotto "box" and run regardless of the decision..will be worth it"...
:kick:
:nono: Well I could say Margarito KO 1?,.. but I dont think that's a realistic proposition,.. much, much, much, much!!!... like all the Fraud groupies who are picking Cotto, to *outslug,
*outfight,
*out-heart,
*out-tough,
*out-everything Margarito, only through sheer perpetuation of relief, easing the immortal scarrs brought forth by Fraud's clear and evident fear of having to fight Margarito back in mid-2006,.. Now it's no secret Cotto has better boxing skills, better defence and quicker hands,.. so I wouldn't rattle the official tote in protest if Cotto was made the logical favourite, ...but I know, as does everyone on this forum, that Cotto is in with a wolverine that is so pitifully raw, but so immensly tough, so tough and determined infact, that he competes at the highest level in the most talented division???, with virtually no skills,.. that's what makes Margarito special, he is the epitome of Anti-bitch, unlike Cotto's closing rounds against mangey old Mosely,..what a "bulldozer" Cotto turns out to be when a hard headed opponent wont go away.. ----is he a grinding machine because Judah creates mythical monsters?..or is it coz hes 'squat' in build?..:rolleyes:
:crafty: "Back-tracking" is being "worried" in countdown threads, and switching from Cotto will kill him!,..to why take risks?.. if he can win by cruising with smart skills?...:crafty: ... which is it?.. is he gunna fight like we know he wont, or is he going to run you woodknip?..
Cotto runs, that's the most important element in this fight for me, and if he manages to win a round or two in the first 6,.. because he's a slow starter, then I believe he'll be robbed,.. so my prediction is,.. Cotto runs - Margarito robbed,... in pink,..put it up^ spine bending spaniard :nono:.
Double L
07-22-2008, 06:15 AM
:nono: Well I could say Margarito KO 1?,.. but I dont think that's a realistic proposition,.. much, much, much, much!!!... like all the Fraud groupies who are picking Cotto, to *outslug,
*outfight,
*out-heart,
*out-tough,
*out-everything Margarito, only through sheer perpetuation of relief, easing the immortal scarrs brought forth by Fraud's clear and evident fear of having to fight Margarito back in mid-2006,.. Now it's no secret Cotto has better boxing skills, better defence and quicker hands,.. so I wouldn't rattle the official tote in protest if Cotto was made the logical favourite, ...but I know, as does everyone on this forum, that Cotto is in with a wolverine that is so pitifully raw, but so immensly tough, so tough and determined infact, that he competes at the highest level in the most talented division???, with virtually no skills,.. that's what makes Margarito special, he is the epitome of Anti-bitch, unlike Cotto's closing rounds against mangey old Mosely,..what a "bulldozer" Cotto turns out to be when a hard headed opponent wont go away.. ----is he a grinding machine because Judah creates mythical monsters?..or is it coz hes 'squat' in build?..:rolleyes:
:crafty: "Back-tracking" is being "worried" in countdown threads, and switching from Cotto will kill him!,..to why take risks?.. if he can win by cruising with smart skills?...:crafty: ... which is it?.. is he gunna fight like we know he wont, or is he going to run you woodknip?..
Cotto runs, that's the most important element in this fight for me, and if he manages to win a round or two in the first 6,.. because he's a slow starter, then I believe he'll be robbed,.. so my prediction is,.. Cotto runs - Margarito robbed,... in pink,..put it up^ spine bending spaniard :nono:.
We could all be wrong - but my guess is Cotto can't win rounds by running the way he could against fellow 5 niners. Against a full fledged and lanky welter-weight? I don't think running is gonna work. He'll be forced to duke it out. And we know how that turns out.
Hex-One
07-22-2008, 06:19 AM
We could all be wrong - but my guess is Cotto can't win rounds by running the way he could against fellow 5 niners. Against a full fledged and lanky welter-weight? I don't think running is gonna work. He'll be forced to duke it out. And we know how that turns out.
Review the fight with Margarito/Clottey. Clottey was countering the hell out of Margarito and winning the fight easily until he hurt his hand. Cotto is going to beat the shit out of Margarito. :popcorn:
ElTerriblee
07-22-2008, 06:49 AM
Review the fight with Margarito/Clottey. Clottey was countering the hell out of Margarito and winning the fight easily until he hurt his hand. Cotto is going to beat the shit out of Margarito. :popcorn:
Review the fight with Cotto/Torres. :dunno:
Hex-One
07-22-2008, 07:01 AM
Review the fight with Cotto/Torres. :dunno: :nono:Has that happened @147? It was obvious Cotto was killing himself to make weight. He fought Judah and Mosley who has power with speed and he took them power shots pretty damn good if you ask me.
ElTerriblee
07-22-2008, 07:20 AM
:nono:Has that happened @147? It was obvious Cotto was killing himself to make weight. He fought Judah and Mosley who has power with speed and he took them power shots pretty damn good if you ask me.
Both hurt him. :dunno:
KaukipRrr
07-22-2008, 09:04 AM
We could all be wrong - but my guess is Cotto can't win rounds by running the way he could against fellow 5 niners. Against a full fledged and lanky welter-weight? I don't think running is gonna work. He'll be forced to duke it out. And we know how that turns out.
I think for the first 7 rounds he'll back up and throw nuggety little hooks behind his peekaboo defence,... for the last 5, he will as Illuminati calls it, "cruise with smart skills".. which is ofcourse, essentially running. Remember, Cotto only needs to win 4 rounds to get top ranks nod,.. boxing isn't fare - it's a business, and Cotto makes the most money.
ILLUMINATI
07-22-2008, 11:38 AM
:nono: Well I could say Margarito KO 1?,.. but I dont think that's a realistic proposition,.. much, much, much, much!!!... like all the Fraud groupies who are picking Cotto, to *outslug,
*outfight,
*out-heart,
*out-tough,
*out-everything Margarito, only through sheer perpetuation of relief, easing the immortal scarrs brought forth by Fraud's clear and evident fear of having to fight Margarito back in mid-2006,.. Now it's no secret Cotto has better boxing skills, better defence and quicker hands,.. so I wouldn't rattle the official tote in protest if Cotto was made the logical favourite, ...but I know, as does everyone on this forum, that Cotto is in with a wolverine that is so pitifully raw, but so immensly tough, so tough and determined infact, that he competes at the highest level in the most talented division???, with virtually no skills,.. that's what makes Margarito special, he is the epitome of Anti-bitch, unlike Cotto's closing rounds against mangey old Mosely,..what a "bulldozer" Cotto turns out to be when a hard headed opponent wont go away.. ----is he a grinding machine because Judah creates mythical monsters?..or is it coz hes 'squat' in build?..:rolleyes:
:crafty: "Back-tracking" is being "worried" in countdown threads, and switching from Cotto will kill him!,..to why take risks?.. if he can win by cruising with smart skills?...:crafty: ... which is it?.. is he gunna fight like we know he wont, or is he going to run you woodknip?..
Cotto runs, that's the most important element in this fight for me, and if he manages to win a round or two in the first 6,.. because he's a slow starter, then I believe he'll be robbed,.. so my prediction is,.. Cotto runs - Margarito robbed,... in pink,..put it up^ spine bending spaniard :nono:.
:rolleyes: BIG Margarito cannot KO a little guy like MIGUEL COTTO? Margarito has a 5-6" height advantage.....67" to 73" reach advantage....has been in there with bigger welters than cotto..Cintron/Clottey/Williams..and has fought even at a higher weight vs. Santos......but MARGARITO still will be depending on a decision....>???
Cotto boxing Margarito....moral victory....
Margarito making it to the final bell..even when has lose 9-10 rounds...moral victory....:bears:
Double L
07-22-2008, 11:39 AM
Review the fight with Margarito/Clottey. Clottey was countering the hell out of Margarito and winning the fight easily until he hurt his hand. Cotto is going to beat the shit out of Margarito. :popcorn:
Clottey is bigger than Cotto and in my estimation more durable too even if his stamina is shit.
And I don't think he hurt his hand. I think he was tuckered out and afraid of getting knocked out so he basically disengaged, which is the typical manner in which Margarito fights proceed - he take his lumps but in the end it's he and not his opponent putting on the hurt.
Wasn't Margarito also injured in the Clottey fight?
Anthony
07-22-2008, 01:05 PM
Wasn't Margarito also injured in the Clottey fight?
No clottey was injured. He broke his hand in round 4
ILLUMINATI
07-22-2008, 01:11 PM
No clottey was injured. He broke his hand in round 4
Margarito came into the fight injured.....or something...
Anthony
07-22-2008, 01:28 PM
Margarito came into the fight injured.....or something...
Was he hurt flying to the ring those big ass ears?
Hex-One
07-22-2008, 02:07 PM
No clottey was injured. He broke his hand in round 4
:bears:yup.
KaukipRrr
07-22-2008, 11:57 PM
:rolleyes: BIG Margarito cannot KO a little guy like MIGUEL COTTO? Margarito has a 5-6" height advantage.....67" to 73" reach advantage....has been in there with bigger welters than cotto..Cintron/Clottey/Williams..and has fought even at a higher weight vs. Santos......but MARGARITO still will be depending on a decision....>???
Cotto boxing Margarito....moral victory....
Margarito making it to the final bell..even when has lose 9-10 rounds...moral victory....:bears:
Cotto isnt small, he's a thick, thick, somewhat musclebound lump, with monsterous shoulder cogs,..and it's 'likely' to go to a decision because ah Cotto is simply a good fighter, with ah? good boxing skills, and he'll block alot of Antonio's shots on the run :dunno: ?.. Although Margarito's shots hurt, he's not a 1 punch knock-out artist, he's an accumulative sort of feind, so anyone with a decent defence and an inclination to run stands a good bet to go the distance with him, though, Cotto will be quite a demoralised soul at the end ofcourse. Here's top ranks judging syllabus for this particular fight,..
Cotto wins 4 rounds = UD
Cotto wins 3 rounds = MD
Cotto wins 2 rounds = SD
Cotto wins 1 rounds = D
Cotto wins 0 rounds = Margarito SD (initiate immediate rematch clause).
BigJohn619
07-23-2008, 12:25 AM
Margarito is knocking Cotto out on 7/26/08 :nono:
Double L
07-23-2008, 09:30 AM
Margarito is knocking Cotto out on 7/26/08 :nono:
And the world will be shocked!!! I can't wait. This is going to be a great fight. If it's boring, it means Cotto whimped out. If it's exciting, it means Cotto gets his clocked cleaned. Either way, Margarito will finally get the credit he is due.
Xplosive
07-23-2008, 09:32 AM
And the world will be shocked!!! I can't wait. This is going to be a great fight. If it's boring, it means Cotto whimped out. If it's exciting, it means Cotto gets his clocked cleaned. Either way, Margarito will finally get the credit he is due.
I think you have this fight confused with DLH-Trinidad.
Double L
07-23-2008, 09:37 AM
I think you have this fight confused with DLH-Trinidad.
No. But that's a good example of how the fight "could" turn out if Cotto decides not to go out on his shield.
BTW: lol at the notion that Cotto can box and move the way ODH did against Trinidad.
Xplosive
07-23-2008, 09:43 AM
No. But that's a good example of how the fight "could" turn out if Cotto decides not to go out on his shield.
BTW: lol at the notion that Cotto can box and move the way ODH did against Trinidad.
Cotto wont need to box like that. Phony isnt as dangerous as Tito.
Xplosive
07-23-2008, 09:47 AM
Double I can already see your excuse. If Cotto wins, but doesnt go toe-to-toe with Tony every round, you'll say he used "stink" to win.
Double L
07-23-2008, 09:53 AM
Double I can already see your excuse. If Cotto wins, but doesnt go toe-to-toe with Tony every round, you'll say he used "stink" to win.
Believe me. If Cotto is reduced to using "stink" he's not winning the fight. Not legitimately anyways (maybe according to Top Rank he will have won).
Cotto was out on his feet against Torres and he didn't even hold. And when N'dou was chasing him out of the ring he didn't use any stink. So I don't think he has it in him to "stink."
He might try to use a lot of movement but that won't work against Margarito and that'll be clear to everyone if and when it occurs.
Cotto's best bet will be to get inside on Margarito and punish him with short body shots and left hooks to the chin. But I don't think Margarito will be stupid enough to allow that to happen.
REEDsART
07-23-2008, 10:00 AM
Double I can already see your excuse. If Cotto wins, but doesnt go toe-to-toe with Tony every round, you'll say he used "stink" to win.
Isn't it FUNNY Watching All these Margarita Supporters Providing THEMSELVES w/OUT clauses???:atu:...
On the Flipside, Guys R CONFIDENTLY Picking Cotto...
Bottom Line, if Margarita is REALLY an "Elite Fighter", WHY should Cotto have to Fight DOWN to his Level???...If Margarita's REALLY as Good as DOUB & Others Suggest, he'll RAISE his Game to WHATEVER Level or Tactics Cotto Employs...
OUT Clauses R for WUSSES....
REED:hammert:
REEDsART
07-23-2008, 10:05 AM
Believe me. If Cotto is reduced to using "stink" he's not winning the fight. Not legitimately anyways (maybe according to Top Rank he will have won).
Cotto was out on his feet against Torres and he didn't even hold. And when N'dou was chasing him out of the ring he didn't use any stink. So I don't think he has it in him to "stink."
He might try to use a lot of movement but that won't work against Margarito and that'll be clear to everyone if and when it occurs.
Cotto's best bet will be to get inside on Margarito and punish him with short body shots and left hooks to the chin. But I don't think Margarito will be stupid enough to allow that to happen.Cotto has BETTER, QUICKER Footwork than Margarita...If Cotto WANTS to Saty AWAY from Margarita, he'll B Able to...
Also, Margarita ISN'T the Smartest Fighter Out There...He's More BALLSY than BRAINY in the Ring...Margarita will Take 2 or 3 just to Land 1...
For as Looooooong as the Fight Lasts, Cotto will SEVERELY Outland Margarita...His Defense SUCKS, Dude...
REED:kidcool:
I'm still not making a pick, and I wasn't rooting for either guy but REED has forced me to root for Margarito with the malarkey he's been posting.
WAR MARGARITO!
Hex-One
07-23-2008, 10:15 AM
I'm still not making a pick, and I wasn't rooting for either guy but REED has forced me to root for Margarito with the malarkey he's been posting.
WAR MARGARITO!
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VOTE COTTO!!!:pray:
Xplosive
07-23-2008, 10:16 AM
Isn't it FUNNY Watching All these Margarita Supporters Providing THEMSELVES w/OUT clauses???:atu:...
On the Flipside, Guys R CONFIDENTLY Picking Cotto...
Bottom Line, if Margarita is REALLY an "Elite Fighter", WHY should Cotto have to Fight DOWN to his Level???...If Margarita's REALLY as Good as DOUB & Others Suggest, he'll RAISE his Game to WHATEVER Level or Tactics Cotto Employs...
OUT Clauses R for WUSSES....
REED:hammert:
I wonder what they're excuses will be when Cotto stops him.
Double L
07-23-2008, 10:40 AM
Cotto has BETTER, QUICKER Footwork than Margarita...If Cotto WANTS to Saty AWAY from Margarita, he'll B Able to...
Also, Margarita ISN'T the Smartest Fighter Out There...He's More BALLSY than BRAINY in the Ring...Margarita will Take 2 or 3 just to Land 1...
For as Looooooong as the Fight Lasts, Cotto will SEVERELY Outland Margarita...His Defense SUCKS, Dude...
REED:kidcool:
Yeah. Because he beat the shyte out of Alfonso Gomez and Zab Judah, right?
And besides Mosley, who he barely beat, he hasn't fought anyone of substance at 147. Judah's a 140 pounder at best, and never did shit at 147 except fall apart.
And Margarito may not fit the mold of what you consider a "skilled" fighter, with blazing combinations and foot-work worthy of dancing with the stars, but the man knows a thing or two about fighting - I can promise you that. You talk about him like he belongs in a tough-man contest or something and that's a ridiculous and very narrow-minded view of what constitutes a skilled fighter.
REEDsART
07-23-2008, 10:54 AM
Yeah. Because he beat the shyte out of Alfonso Gomez and Zab Judah, right?
And besides Mosley, who he barely beat, he hasn't fought anyone of substance at 147. Judah's a 140 pounder at best, and never did shit at 147 except fall apart.
And Margarito may not fit the mold of what you consider a "skilled" fighter, with blazing combinations and foot-work worthy of dancing with the stars, but the man knows a thing or two about fighting - I can promise you that. You talk about him like he belongs in a tough-man contest or something and that's a ridiculous and very narrow-minded view of what constitutes a skilled fighter.REED Certainly DOESN'T have a Narrow Minded View of a "Skilled" Fighter...
Take your Boy J.L. Castillo for Instance...On the SURFACE, his Skills DON'T just Jump Out @ U (Not the 1st Couple times U Watch him), but N Actuality he's a VERY SKILLED "Pressure Fighter"...@ his Best he RARELY Moved Backwards, had a Good Workrate, Good JAB, Good 1 Shot Power & UNDERRATED Defense & Handspeed...
Castillo BLOCKED, ROLLED w/or just Flat-Out EVADED More Shots than Most "Pressure Fighters" Do...
Like Castillo, Margarita's Primarily a "Pressure Fighter", Unfortunately, Margarita LACKS Most of what Made Castillo an ELITE Fighter N his Prime...
Margarita's SLOWER of Hand AND Foot, Doesn't Quite Punch as Hard & is Much, MUCH Easier to Hit FLUSH than Castillo EVER was...They BOTH have Good Chins, Uppercuts & Bodypunches...
Sorry, REED has a VERY BROAD View of a "Skilled" Fighter...Antonio Margarita just ISN'T 1 of them...
REED:hammert:
Mitchell Kane
07-23-2008, 10:59 AM
Yeah. Because he beat the shyte out of Alfonso Gomez and Zab Judah, right?
And besides Mosley, who he barely beat, he hasn't fought anyone of substance at 147. Judah's a 140 pounder at best, and never did shit at 147 except fall apart.
And Margarito may not fit the mold of what you consider a "skilled" fighter, with blazing combinations and foot-work worthy of dancing with the stars, but the man knows a thing or two about fighting - I can promise you that. You talk about him like he belongs in a tough-man contest or something and that's a ridiculous and very narrow-minded view of what constitutes a skilled fighter.
Exactly.
Margarito has physical limitations...so if he tried to fight another way he probably wouldn't have been nearly as successful as he's become. He knows that, which is in part why his style is