weighted chins are awesome

[LOK]

thats the only way I do my chins now!

I put some dumbells in a backpack and it really works!!

[Hut*Hut]

One of my favourites! What you working with LOK? 300lb for reps, I bet? :lol::bears:

[LOK]

One of my favourites! What you working with LOK? 300lb for reps, I bet? :lol::bears:

man.. I was suprised that even a little weight makes a big difference! I'm not a real good chinner yet.. years ago when I worked at a gym I was really strong at chinning..

as of now I put a 25lb dumbell in my backpack..

i put 2 in.. but with 50lbs in my backpack I could only get like 4 chins

[Hut*Hut]

man.. I was suprised that even a little weight makes a big difference! I'm not a real good chinner yet.. years ago when I worked at a gym I was really strong at chinning..

as of now I put a 25lb dumbell in my backpack..

i put 2 in.. but with 50lbs in my backpack I could only get like 4 chins

Your much stronger/more trained than me generally so I dunno if this'll work for you, but I had excellent results with mixing up the weights and rep range. Like Id do a set with a weight I could comfortably do for about 7 or 8, then one about 5 or 6, then about 3 or 4 then finish up with a 2. Then obviously tried to put an extra couple of pounds on each range every time. My strength went way up doing that. Im about he same as you now, I can do about 4 or 5 with 50lb, but bearing in mind your generally way stronger than me, thats pretty successful progress for me on chins. Id imagine you'd get up close to double that fairly quickly if you worked on it. YOu'll be chinning with people on your back in no time. :lol: Mind you, I only did chins 3 times a fortnight and alternated barbell rows 3x a fortnight as well, I know you prefer more GTG type training so it might not suit you.

[LOK]

Your much stronger/more trained than me generally so I dunno if this'll work for you, but I had excellent results with mixing up the weights and rep range. Like Id do a set with a weight I could comfortably do for about 7 or 8, then one about 5 or 6, then about 3 or 4 then finish up with a 2. Then obviously tried to put an extra couple of pounds on each range every time. My strength went way up doing that. Im about he same as you now, I can do about 4 or 5 with 50lb, but bearing in mind your generally way stronger than me, thats pretty successful progress for me on chins. Id imagine you'd get up close to double that fairly quickly if you worked on it. YOu'll be chinning with people on your back in no time. :lol: Mind you, I only did chins 3 times a fortnight and alternated barbell rows 3x a fortnight as well, I know you prefer more GTG type training so it might not suit you.


we'll see..
it's funny that as a kid I was always great at chins.. as I gained weight even through lifting.. I was still decent..

then I didn't try them for years and years.. I went to a buddy's house and I was shocked that I could only do like 3!!!

Now I'm back in "the groove" and it's getting easier and easier.. :cheer:

[Roll With The Punches]

does it work to do weighted push ups? like put weights in a backpack, or would that mess up your spine...

[Hut*Hut]

does it work to do weighted push ups? like put weights in a backpack, or would that mess up your spine...

Nah, it's a great exercise, you just have to work to keep your spine stable the same way you do with Deads or Squats. In fact that's what makes it way superior to the Bench Press (As Rippetoe says BP is to weighted push ups/dips as lat pull down is to chin ups).

Thing is, its difficult to get full ROM without the rucksack/vest getting in your way. The best way to do it is to get three chairs, put your feet on one and put your hands on the two other ones. Not practical at a gym unfortunately, but easy at home.

[Buddy Rydell]

I can understand the desire to get weighted chins under your belt, LOK. Myself, I'm going to concentrate on regular ones until I get 25-50 reps. That will also allow me to drop my bodyweight as far as I want it to go before I start doing daily weighted chins. As of now, I do daily widegrip chins and I find the difference between what I do now and what I did before to be awesome. I'm going to grease the groove until I get 25 chins per set for every set.

[LOK]

I can understand the desire to get weighted chins under your belt, LOK. Myself, I'm going to concentrate on regular ones until I get 25-50 reps. That will also allow me to drop my bodyweight as far as I want it to go before I start doing daily weighted chins. As of now, I do daily widegrip chins and I find the difference between what I do now and what I did before to be awesome. I'm going to grease the groove until I get 25 chins per set for every set.


I hear you Buddy..

I'm actually trying to see if by doing some low rep chins with weight.. if that will translate to higher reps without... sometimes it works like that sometimes it doesnt

i'm trying to build a dip stand also so I can start doing dips.. at one point I was awesome at dips but have not tryed them in years

[Buddy Rydell]

I hear you Buddy..

I'm actually trying to see if by doing some low rep chins with weight.. if that will translate to higher reps without... sometimes it works like that sometimes it doesnt

i'm trying to build a dip stand also so I can start doing dips.. at one point I was awesome at dips but have not tryed them in years

Yeah, dips are great too. If I wasn't already doing handstand pushups and incline pushups (with my feet on a bench while my hands are on the floor), I'd work dips into my routine...

You know what, I think I'll get some dips in today when I go to the gym to do my circuit training. I don't have a dip apparatus at home, but I do have one at the gym.

[Buddy Rydell]

The main thing for me is doing my cardio and bodyweight exercises right now, but dips are a very good one as are bench dips. I'll see if maybe I can work them in, but that might just be too many exercises.:dunno:

[LOK]

Yeah, dips are great too. If I wasn't already doing handstand pushups and incline pushups (with my feet on a bench while my hands are on the floor), I'd work dips into my routine...

You know what, I think I'll get some dips in today when I go to the gym to do my circuit training. I don't have a dip apparatus at home, but I do have one at the gym.

I'm trying to find or build something to do dips on at home..

I have some stools but they are not tall enough.. if I could hold an L seat I could do them but that seems like it will be hard.. I'm going to try tonight

[Buddy Rydell]

I think I'll do Bench Dips at home. I got up to 300lbs for 1 rep doing bench dips when I was 21. I should be able to get respectable poundages quickly once again, but first I'll make sure I have a full range of motion by doing just bodyweight first.

[LOK]

I think I'll do Bench Dips at home. I got up to 300lbs for 1 rep doing bench dips when I was 21. I should be able to get respectable poundages quickly once again, but first I'll make sure I have a full range of motion by doing just bodyweight first.


I got a medicinal walker.. it works PERFECTLY for dips!!!

[Buddy Rydell]

I got a medicinal walker.. it works PERFECTLY for dips!!!

Frig, that actually sounds good. I'm about 198 right now though, so I wonder if one would hold me.

[LOK]

Frig, that actually sounds good. I'm about 198 right now though, so I wonder if one would hold me.


I'm 205 Buddy.. and I do my dips with a backpack with weight.. it holds up fine

[Hut*Hut]

I got a medicinal walker.. it works PERFECTLY for dips!!!

LMAO! I can just picture LOKs eureka moment on this - a poor old granny hobbling over the busy street in her zimmer, gesturing towards LOK for help - suddenly all he can think about is throwing her off the damn thing and doing dips with it. :lol: It's quite engenius nonetheless, Im ordering mine from ebay later.:bears:

[LOK]

LMAO! I can just picture LOKs eureka moment on this - a poor old granny hobbling over the busy street in her zimmer, gesturing towards LOK for help - suddenly all he can think about is throwing her off the damn thing and doing dips with it. :lol: It's quite engenius nonetheless, Im ordering mine from ebay later.:bears:

Hut.. I know online you can get new one's for 50 bucks or so.. but I got mine at a thrift shop for next to nothing

[Buddy Rydell]

HutHut nailed this one right on the nose: Lok didn't spend money on a walker. He knocked some old lady out with the watermelon punch and stole her walker. :lol:

[LOK]

HutHut nailed this one right on the nose: Lok didn't spend money on a walker. He knocked some old lady out with the watermelon punch and stole her walker. :lol:


:lol:

my wife was laughing the first day I brought it home.. all excited.. doing my dips.. she said it was a funny site:lol:

[Buddy Rydell]

I'm thinking about doing weighted chins once or twice a week. I have the chinning bar at home, and I want to be able to do more ropeclimbing in the spring. Looks like I might have to add it twice a week.

Maybe I'll resurrect the ropeclimbing thread as well. It's been awhile since I've done some climbing, and it really muscles up the whole body.

BTW, I tried to do a muscleup on a soccer net crossbar last night and almost got it, but the bar was wet from rain so no go. :lol:

If I do chins with increasingly heavier and heavier weights, I'll be shooting up that rope in the spring. :bears:

[LOK]

I'm thinking about doing weighted chins once or twice a week. I have the chinning bar at home, and I want to be able to do more ropeclimbing in the spring. Looks like I might have to add it twice a week.

Maybe I'll resurrect the ropeclimbing thread as well. It's been awhile since I've done some climbing, and it really muscles up the whole body.

BTW, I tried to do a muscleup on a soccer net crossbar last night and almost got it, but the bar was wet from rain so no go. :lol:

If I do chins with increasingly heavier and heavier weights, I'll be shooting up that rope in the spring. :bears:
I tried last night and couldn't get it.. I was so sure I'd nail it but it was suprisngly hard!

[Buddy Rydell]

My mistake was in not using my legs to get kick off. Then the bar was just too slippery when I clued in after a few tries.

[LOK]

My mistake was in not using my legs to get kick off. Then the bar was just too slippery when I clued in after a few tries.


you know.. watching calisthenics kingz, he really kinda swings up into the muscle up.. it's not a strict pulling up the way he does it..

[Buddy Rydell]

Maybe I should delete the other thread and post it in here. It might be a bit redundant.

[LOK]

Maybe I should delete the other thread and post it in here. It might be a bit redundant.


it's all good! multiple chin threads are awesome!:bears:

[Hanz]

Put on some Rocky music while you're doing it. You might get enough adrenaline and nail it.

[Buddy Rydell]

I'll do a few sets tonight. For some reason my arms were dead today, and I wasn't even trying anywhere near my highest number of reps. I was only doing sets of 10 in chins and still felt deadsville.

[Buddy Rydell]

I'm 205 Buddy.. and I do my dips with a backpack with weight.. it holds up fine

I'm sitting below 200 now, but by spring I expect to be in the 180s. :kidcool:

[LOK]

I'm sitting below 200 now, but by spring I expect to be in the 180s. :kidcool:


i prolly wont get much lighter.. maybe a little but I'm just getting leaner but putting on a little muscle too..

[Neil]

what constitutes a muscle up?

[LOK]

what constitutes a muscle up?


http://www.beastskills.com/MuscleUp.htm

[Neil]

lok are u able to bring your arms straight out like a T on the rings as gymnasts do?

[LOK]

lok are u able to bring your arms straight out like a T on the rings as gymnasts do?


Iron cross they call it..

not sure.. I do not have rings

[Roll With The Punches]

can you do muscle ups lok?

do you think they're mainly about strength or technique?

i've seen people do them and it seemed like they used alot of swinging and momentum :dunno:

[Buddy Rydell]

If I tried one in my basement, I'd knock myself out. I can't get one yet, but I will after I get up to chinning half my bodyweight.

[Roll With The Punches]

what does chinning half your bodyweight have to do with it? haha technically you only need to be able to do one chin up

[Buddy Rydell]

Wrong. You need a lot of strength in your rotator cuffs and stabilizer muscles. Plus I want to be able to shoot up the rope like I used to. All of this requires significant changes in pulling strength.

[Buddy Rydell]

10 reps with 5lbs. Looks like I'm off to a good start. I'll go up in weight fairly quickly.:crafty:

[Roll With The Punches]

5 lbs of weight cut your reps from 20 to 10??

[Buddy Rydell]

No, I cut back a few days ago when I got sick. I could get more if I tried, but I'll max between 12-15 reps before I go up in attached weight.

[Hut*Hut]

Buddy, out of curiosity, how many less pull ups do you manage than Chins? I never really trained overhand style for some reason and when I tried it the other week I was pretty shocked I could only do about a third as many reps that way as underhand.

Normal, or am I just really imbalanced due to not training them?

[Rainmaker]

What is a chin?

[Buddy Rydell]

Buddy, out of curiosity, how many less pull ups do you manage than Chins? I never really trained overhand style for some reason and when I tried it the other week I was pretty shocked I could only do about a third as many reps that way as underhand.

Normal, or am I just really imbalanced due to not training them?


Sounds like you're just unbalance from not training them. I haven't done underhanded ones in quite some time, but they were always much easier than overhand because it takes much stronger rear deltoid muscles to do widegrip overhand chins.

Pullups are easier, but I haven't done any of those in awhile.

[LOK]

Buddy, out of curiosity, how many less pull ups do you manage than Chins? I never really trained overhand style for some reason and when I tried it the other week I was pretty shocked I could only do about a third as many reps that way as underhand.

Normal, or am I just really imbalanced due to not training them?

most people do Chins (palms facing you) easier than Pullups (palms facing out)

both pulls use your lats (back muscles) but the chins have more help of your bicep

[Roll With The Punches]

so which have you guys been doing this whole time :lol:?

i do palms facing in and shoulder width grip most often, and do this way whenever i use weight
and here and there i do a little wider with palms out to mix it up

[LOK]

so which have you guys been doing this whole time :lol:?

i do palms facing in and shoulder width grip most often, and do this way whenever i use weight
and here and there i do a little wider with palms out to mix it up


I have been doing both but I do "chins" more than pulls..

[Joe King]

I need to try this

[Buddy Rydell]

most people do Chins (palms facing you) easier than Pullups (palms facing out)

both pulls use your lats (back muscles) but the chins have more help of your bicep


When I hear of widegrip chins, the palms are facing out. I thought pullups were slightly different.

[Buddy Rydell]

By the way, Joe, wouldn't you rip in half if you attempted a chinup? http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Just teasing you, dude. What are your dimensions? Do you do chins?http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif

[LOK]

generally here (USA)

CHIN= palms in
Pullup = palms out

pullups are done with all widths of grips.. including wide

chins are usually a much closer grip

[Buddy Rydell]

Well, I started weighed chins today, and I did 5 sets of 6 with a 10lb weight so far. I know I can do more, but I want to keep the enthusiasm going and lately I've been feeling a bit wornout and stagnant.

I'm gonna grease the groove this week, and see how I'm feeling next weekend. I'll add weights to my vest for the whole winter, and be doing sets of 10 with at least 50lbs by the summer.

[Buddy Rydell]

This is no sweat, so I'm gonna keep it up all winter. I did three sets of 6 with the same weight this morning when I woke up at 5:30. It's a piece of cake.:bears:

[Neil]

let me ask this. does it matter what time frame u do these pullups or chinups in? I usually do sets of 10 sporadically throughout the day since I workout strictly at home. is it better to just do your entire workout in a half hour as opposed to just whenever?

[LOK]

let me ask this. does it matter what time frame u do these pullups or chinups in? I usually do sets of 10 sporadically throughout the day since I workout strictly at home. is it better to just do your entire workout in a half hour as opposed to just whenever?


i thinnk throught the day is the way really

[Buddy Rydell]

let me ask this. does it matter what time frame u do these pullups or chinups in? I usually do sets of 10 sporadically throughout the day since I workout strictly at home. is it better to just do your entire workout in a half hour as opposed to just whenever?

If you can space them out throughout the day, you are basically able to do the same reps for the same exercise at any time. That is better than getting it all done quick in my book because the "grease the groove" training philosophy means sub-maximal adaptation throughout the day. You shouldn't really be trying too hard to get the chins done. Just do'em whenever you go near the chinup bar.

If you are trying to build muscle, do it all at once. If you're using "grease the groove", then do it throughout the day.:bears:

[Buddy Rydell]

Well, last week I was superbusy and got away from doing these, which is a shame. This week I'll be doing them daily, nightly, and ever-so-rightly! :partie:

[Buddy Rydell]

Did a few sets of 7 with the 10lb weight. As soon as I do 10 reps, I'll up the weight.

[LOK]

Did a few sets of 7 with the 10lb weight. As soon as I do 10 reps, I'll up the weight.


try supersetting them with pushups Buddy.. I been doing that some lately..

for example, a quick 5 chins, imediatly drop and do 5 pushups, jump up to bar and do 5 chins, back down 5 pushups.. etc.. until done

[Buddy Rydell]

try supersetting them with pushups Buddy.. I been doing that some lately..

for example, a quick 5 chins, imediatly drop and do 5 pushups, jump up to bar and do 5 chins, back down 5 pushups.. etc.. until done

I would, but right now I do a fair amount of circuit training. I don't want to overdo it because years ago I tore a bicep muscle by doing too much at once without adequate recuperation.

[Buddy Rydell]

Doing the 7s, but I cheated and put a 2.5lber in with the 10. It wasn't much of a change, so I'm going to see what I can get away with and how often. I'm still going to do at least 3 sets a day.

I do chins without weight at work, and I do chins with weight at home.

[Roll With The Punches]

LOK, how long till you think you'll be able to do 6 sets of 6 chins with a 90lb weight belt?? like bigdawg used to do

what about you Buddy?

[LOK]

LOK, how long till you think you'll be able to do 6 sets of 6 chins with a 90lb weight belt?? like bigdawg used to do

what about you Buddy?


i could do it now but do not have a weight belt

i got a backpack I been putting dumbells in but it kinda blws.. really invcortbale with dumbells in your back

[Roll With The Punches]

i could do it now but do not have a weight belt

i got a backpack I been putting dumbells in but it kinda blws.. really invcortbale with dumbells in your back


i'm telling bigdawg you said that :nono:

[His_Royness]

i'm telling bigdawg you said that :nono:



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