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James68
12-29-2009, 12:27 PM
Lb. for Lb. posted this earlier but instead of burying it at the back of a thread I think it should have been front and center.
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http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=18989


ROY JONES JR SIDES WITH PACQUIAO: "I WOULDN'T TAKE ANY EXTRA TESTS!"
By G. Leon
GL: Are you aware of the ongoing crisis surrounding the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight? "Most definitely." GL: Do you have an opinion on it? "You could see Pacquiao's side, why should he change for Floyd? A fight don't start in the ring, it starts when the negotiation starts. If these are the rules, we're going to stick by the standard rules. On the other hand, I understand he's saying something been going on, but the problem with that is, if you're going to check him why didn't you check Marquez? Why didn't you make anybody else do it? It's kind of strange to call him out on this and nobody else."

GL: Do you see anything in Pacquiao that would lead you to feel suspicious?

RJ: "No. The kid is strong, he came up in weight and brought his stregth. Nowadays the testing is good enough, they got it to where you can't even take over the counter products. I can testify to that. The testing is very good right now and there's nothing he could really do that they can't find. Why make Pacquiao take the test and not anybody else?"

GL: Would you have made such a concession for John Ruiz or any of your other big fights?

RJ: "Hell naw. Why change the rules on me? Because I'm coming up in weight means I'm doing steroids? They're giving you a test for that anyway. It would be something that would aggravate me because then after I beat you, I was on something, don't play with me. Either you want to fight or you don't want to fight.

FULL MEMBERS ONLY INTERVIEW WITH JONES TO FOLLOW


Great point by RJJ that their tests are so good it even picks up over the counter stuff.

Joe King
12-29-2009, 12:29 PM
Go away Roy!

Alabama_Man
12-29-2009, 12:32 PM
Roy has been saying what we've been saying the past week.

Now all we need is REED to see that his own hero is supporting Pacquiao. This should get interesting. Will REED diss on another black guy for his viewpoints?

mexican wedding shirt
12-29-2009, 12:34 PM
Roy knows the score, and aptly asks why Flid has not requested all his other opponents to do this.

Beefcake
12-29-2009, 12:50 PM
Roy is just trying to get some publicity for himself seeing as he is well and truly out of the limelight.

REEDsART
12-29-2009, 01:06 PM
Sadly, Roy Jones CAN'T Remain RELEVANT Thru his In-Ring Exploits, so he's Latching Himself Onto the HOTTEST Out-of-Ring Story of the Moment...

Since WHEN is Roy Jones an Authority on Testing???:lol:...The testing is very good right now and there's nothing he could really do that they can't find. NOPE!!:nono:...Personal Trainers & Physicians R ALWAYS @ Least 1 FULL Step AHEAD of the Current Testing Methods...& Roy KNOWS that...

He's just Probably PISSY that Floyd is Threatening & Possibly Surpassing his Status...



REED:hammert:

REEDsART
12-29-2009, 01:10 PM
Roy is just trying to get some publicity for himself seeing as he is well and truly out of the limelight.
Exactly...After Seeing his COMPLAINTS about the Green Fight Generate Next to ZERO Interest, Roy's NOW Latching Himself to This...



REED:hammert:

Hex-One
12-29-2009, 01:14 PM
Sadly, Roy Jones CAN'T Remain RELEVANT Thru his In-Ring Exploits, so he's Latching Himself Onto the HOTTEST Out-of-Ring Story of the Moment...

Since WHEN is Roy Jones an Authority on Testing???:lol:...The testing is very good right now and there's nothing he could really do that they can't find. NOPE!!:nono:...Personal Trainers & Physicians R ALWAYS @ Least 1 FULL Step AHEAD of the Current Testing Methods...& Roy KNOWS that...

He's just Probably PISSY that Floyd is Threatening & Possibly Surpassing his Status...



REED:hammert:Agreed!:hammert:

Buddy Rydell
12-29-2009, 01:16 PM
Wow, the biggest nuthugger to ever hug a nut has just turned on his idol. Will the internet crack in half? Stay tuned! :lol:

REEDsART
12-29-2009, 01:21 PM
Wow, the biggest nuthugger to ever hug a nut has just turned on his idol. Will the internet crack in half? Stay tuned! :lol:
REED hasn't Turned on Anybody...REED is just Keeping it REAL....It's COMICAL that Some of Ya'll Think REED is Gonna BLINDLY Get in Line & Go Along w/WHATEVER Roy Jones Thinks is Right...Roy has Been WRONG on Many Issues Over the Years & REED has Spoken Out about them...

Roy Being Wrong in THIS Case has No Bearing on REED's Fandom for him as a Fighter...


REED:hammert:

Buddy Rydell
12-29-2009, 01:29 PM
REED hasn't Turned on Anybody...REED is just Keeping it REAL....It's COMICAL that Some of Ya'll Think REED is Gonna BLINDLY Get in Line & Go Along w/WHATEVER Roy Jones Thinks is Right...Roy has Been WRONG on Many Issues Over the Years & REED has Spoken Out about them...

Roy Being Wrong in THIS Case has No Bearing on REED's Fandom for him as a Fighter...


REED:hammert:

:lol: Sorry Reed, but I had to do it:

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Double L
12-29-2009, 01:51 PM
Roy is just trying to get some publicity for himself seeing as he is well and truly out of the limelight.

Uh, you don't think they'd print the article if he'd taken the opposite position?

The point is, it's irrelevant what any boxer thinks about the matter. And RJJ's thoughts are no exception.

Irish 2002/2003
12-29-2009, 01:56 PM
Roy was WRONG???? :notallthere:

Buddy Rydell
12-29-2009, 02:00 PM
In all seriousness though, what Roy's saying doesn't really ring true. I think even Roy knows it.

Hey, it's totally possible that Pacquaio is taking something that wouldn't show up on a urine test, but if he isn't, then he's likely super pissed off that he's being accused of this...AND I bet part of him would argue and fight about this against Mayweather because he could easily see it as Mayweather just trying to rip up his reputation ahead of the biggest fight of his career. That's definitely psychological warfare.

jaws1216
12-29-2009, 02:03 PM
Gee, I still remember a time when Floyd and Roy were competing for black fighter supremacy and a certain poster on here was discreditting Floyd at every turn to stand up for a man whose ballsack he loved.

Now that Roy's legacy is ruined, said semen sucker is swinging from a new set of balls now, even talking dirt on his old love.

Fags sure are entertaining.

Alabama_Man
12-29-2009, 02:15 PM
^Damn, those are fighting words.

ElTerriblee
12-29-2009, 03:42 PM
Roy saying urine tests are good enough, because they caught him.

He doesn´t even want to imagine what blood tests would have done to his career. The guy has really become a sad parody of a great fighter. Basically everything he says or does these days is idiotic and it still pays four million dollars. I´m kinda jealous. :lol:

Irish 2002/2003
12-29-2009, 03:44 PM
Roy saying urine tests are good enough, because they caught him.

He doesn´t even want to imagine what blood tests would have done to his career. The guy has really become a sad parody of a great fighter. Basically everything he says or does these days is idiotic and it still pays four million dollars. I´m kinda jealous. :lol:

Roy is a great great great great man.

You know why he wants the Pac-Mayweather fight to happen??

So he can fight the winner, thats why.:notallthere::notallthere:

ElTerriblee
12-29-2009, 03:46 PM
Ben Johnson: I wouldn´t do extra testing.

Alabama Man: That´s right bitches listen to Ben Johnson, he knows what he is talking about.

You realize that it doesn´t really strengthen your argument, when proven cheaters side with Pacquiao to refuse extra testing. :lol:

lb 4 lb
12-29-2009, 03:56 PM
Lb. for Lb. posted this earlier but instead of burying it at the back of a thread I think it should have been front and center.
Preciate the credit James. I thought hard about making it a new thread but decided against it. The board is already littered with Pac-Mayweather threads that it's nearly a full page of it and that is why I just slapped it in one of the threads.


Ben Johnson: I wouldn´t do extra testing.

Alabama Man: That´s right bitches listen to Ben Johnson, he knows what he is talking about.

You realize that it doesn´t really strengthen your argument, when proven cheaters side with Pacquiao to refuse extra testing. :lol::lol::lol:

:lol: :lol:

REEDsART
12-29-2009, 04:04 PM
Ben Johnson: I wouldn´t do extra testing.

Alabama Man: That´s right bitches listen to Ben Johnson, he knows what he is talking about.

You realize that it doesn´t really strengthen your argument, when proven cheaters side with Pacquiao to refuse extra testing. :lol:
:laughing::laughing::laughing:

TKO
12-29-2009, 04:09 PM
Ben Johnson was a cheat?

Matchup_Analyzer
12-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Wow, the biggest nuthugger to ever hug a nut has just turned on his idol. Will the internet crack in half? Stay tuned! :lol:
:laughing:

The Genius
12-29-2009, 08:34 PM
Ben Johnson: I wouldn´t do extra testing.

Alabama Man: That´s right bitches listen to Ben Johnson, he knows what he is talking about.

You realize that it doesn´t really strengthen your argument, when proven cheaters side with Pacquiao to refuse extra testing. :lol:

:lol:

That being said, alot of people seemed to lend weight to Conte's viewpoint. Listen to one cheat but not another?

Pascals Wager
12-29-2009, 09:35 PM
Lb. for Lb. posted this earlier but instead of burying it at the back of a thread I think it should have been front and center.
-------------------------------------------




http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=18989


ROY JONES JR SIDES WITH PACQUIAO: "I WOULDN'T TAKE ANY EXTRA TESTS!"
By G. Leon
GL: Are you aware of the ongoing crisis surrounding the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight? "Most definitely." GL: Do you have an opinion on it? "You could see Pacquiao's side, why should he change for Floyd? A fight don't start in the ring, it starts when the negotiation starts. If these are the rules, we're going to stick by the standard rules. On the other hand, I understand he's saying something been going on, but the problem with that is, if you're going to check him why didn't you check Marquez? Why didn't you make anybody else do it? It's kind of strange to call him out on this and nobody else."

GL: Do you see anything in Pacquiao that would lead you to feel suspicious?

RJ: "No. The kid is strong, he came up in weight and brought his stregth. Nowadays the testing is good enough, they got it to where you can't even take over the counter products. I can testify to that. The testing is very good right now and there's nothing he could really do that they can't find. Why make Pacquiao take the test and not anybody else?"

GL: Would you have made such a concession for John Ruiz or any of your other big fights?

RJ: "Hell naw. Why change the rules on me? Because I'm coming up in weight means I'm doing steroids? They're giving you a test for that anyway. It would be something that would aggravate me because then after I beat you, I was on something, don't play with me. Either you want to fight or you don't want to fight.

FULL MEMBERS ONLY INTERVIEW WITH JONES TO FOLLOW


Great point by RJJ that their tests are so good it even picks up over the counter stuff.


It's really not that complicated:

Fighter A is abiding by the rules & is prepared to go ahead with the fight as per standard procedure.

Fighter B want's to add an unprecedented (not included in the rules, NOT as per standard procedure) stipulation or he won't fight.

Fan A thinks that fighter A should be able to proceed like he & fighter B (and every other fighter in history up to this point) and go ahead with the fight as per standard procedure and not have to change simply because his opponent wants him to.


"Fan" B thinks that because fighter A wants to proceed like he & fighter B (and every other fighter in history up to this point) and go ahead with the fight as per standard procedure & does not want to comply with an unprecedented (not included in the rules, NOT as per standard procedure) stipulation simply because his opponent wants him to, must be a cheat and musn't want the fight.

V10
12-30-2009, 03:47 AM
It's really not that complicated:

Fighter A is abiding by the rules & is prepared to go ahead with the fight as per standard procedure.

Fighter B want's to add an unprecedented (not included in the rules, NOT as per standard procedure) stipulation or he won't fight.

Fan A thinks that fighter A should be able to proceed like he & fighter B (and every other fighter in history up to this point) and go ahead with the fight as per standard procedure and not have to change simply because his opponent wants him to.


"Fan" B thinks that because fighter A wants to proceed like he & fighter B (and every other fighter in history up to this point) and go ahead with the fight as per standard procedure & does not want to comply with an unprecedented (not included in the rules, NOT as per standard procedure) stipulation simply because his opponent wants him to, must be a cheat and musn't want the fight.

Had the fight been cancelled because Floyd didn't agree to pay 10 freaking millions per pound overweight I wonder how much you would be defending Floyd for only wanting to go by standard procedures.

:nono:

Pascals Wager
12-30-2009, 05:07 AM
Had the fight been cancelled because Floyd didn't agree to pay 10 freaking millions per pound overweight I wonder how much you would be defending Floyd for only wanting to go by standard procedures.

:nono:

Well firstly, I'm dealing with the reality of the situation. Not your Hypothetical scenario.
Just as I don't bestow greatness upon a fighter for a Hypothetical (He doesn't have to fight him, would have beat him anyway) resume.

Secondly, your hypothetical scenario makes no sense as a response to my post.
There's nothing standard about being allowed to weigh in above the weight limit.

mexican wedding shirt
12-30-2009, 06:05 AM
Had the fight been cancelled because Floyd didn't agree to pay 10 freaking millions per pound overweight I wonder how much you would be defending Floyd for only wanting to go by standard procedures.

:nono:

I wouldn't blame Floyd for refusing that, it is a ridiculous stipulation (apparently only in response to the testing demands).

royyjonesjrp4pno1
12-30-2009, 07:48 AM
:lol:

That being said, alot of people seemed to lend weight to Conte's viewpoint. Listen to one cheat but not another?
Conte explained how easy it is to beat the system. He helped alot of athletes beat the system. Shane Mosley wsn't caught by the tests rememeber.

Buddy Rydell
12-30-2009, 07:51 AM
Well firstly, I'm dealing with the reality of the situation. Not your Hypothetical scenario.
Just as I don't bestow greatness upon a fighter for a Hypothetical (He doesn't have to fight him, would have beat him anyway) resume.

Secondly, your hypothetical scenario makes no sense as a response to my post.
There's nothing standard about being allowed to weigh in above the weight limit.

Pascals,
You used to post at Boxingpress if I recall correctly. Any idea whatever happened to Boss-ski?

Irish 2002/2003
12-30-2009, 07:59 AM
Conte explained how easy it is to beat the system. He helped alot of athletes beat the system. Shane Mosley wsn't caught by the tests rememeber.

No. He was caught by.....Conte.:laughing:

The Genius
12-30-2009, 08:08 AM
Conte explained how easy it is to beat the system. He helped alot of athletes beat the system. Shane Mosley wsn't caught by the tests rememeber.

OK. I'll give the opinion of a cheat the weight it deserves. None whatsoever. The fact that this guy is being used as 'testimony' of Manny's guilt is disgraceful.

broadwayjoe
12-30-2009, 12:57 PM
Ben Johnson: I wouldn´t do extra testing.

Alabama Man: That´s right bitches listen to Ben Johnson, he knows what he is talking about.

You realize that it doesn´t really strengthen your argument, when proven cheaters side with Pacquiao to refuse extra testing. :lol:

:laughing:

Pascals Wager
12-30-2009, 01:27 PM
Pascals,
You used to post at Boxingpress if I recall correctly. Any idea whatever happened to Boss-ski?

Yeah Buddy, I did. I don't know what happened to him. I only vaguely remember the name...

V10
12-30-2009, 01:28 PM
Well firstly, I'm dealing with the reality of the situation. Not your Hypothetical scenario.
Just as I don't bestow greatness upon a fighter for a Hypothetical (He doesn't have to fight him, would have beat him anyway) resume.

Secondly, your hypothetical scenario makes no sense as a response to my post.
There's nothing standard about being allowed to weigh in above the weight limit.

You're not getting the point.

What there's nothing standard about is saying "hey you'll give 10 millions for every pound overweight". That was just something Manny came up with but Floyd said yes, so it all went away. Same thing with the random testing Mayweather's camp is asking.

Ropadope
12-30-2009, 01:49 PM
Roy wouldn't take the extra tests? Does he even have to worry about testing at this point?

Barristan
12-30-2009, 02:01 PM
If I was fighting Roy I would insist that he submitted to random brain scans. Could you believe its been 6 years since he was 1st brutally stopped and this idiot is still fighting and doing interviews with boxingtalk?:lol:

V10
12-30-2009, 02:07 PM
I wouldn't blame Floyd for refusing that, it is a ridiculous stipulation (apparently only in response to the testing demands).

So you agree Manny is being more bitchy about it? :dunno:

V10
12-30-2009, 02:08 PM
Ben Johnson: I wouldn´t do extra testing.

Alabama Man: That´s right bitches listen to Ben Johnson, he knows what he is talking about.

You realize that it doesn´t really strengthen your argument, when proven cheaters side with Pacquiao to refuse extra testing. :lol:

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Pascals Wager
12-30-2009, 03:31 PM
You're not getting the point.

What there's nothing standard about is saying "hey you'll give 10 millions for every pound overweight". That was just something Manny came up with but Floyd said yes, so it all went away. Same thing with the random testing Mayweather's camp is asking.

Actually, you're missing the point
Your comparing apples & oranges.

Re-read my post.
It was pretty clear I thought.

You are pointing out that Pacman said to PBF that if he failed to comply with STANDARD procedure, he would incur a fine.
PBF said fine. Presumably, he was confident that he would be able to adhere to standard procedure.

Then PBF proceeded to to add an unprecedented (not included in the rules, NOT as per standard procedure) stipulation or he would'n't fight.

Alabama_Man
12-30-2009, 03:59 PM
The funny part about this forum (and I post on a few), is that it's very easy to discern the idiots from the intelligent posters. There really isn't a middle ground here.