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Barristan
07-04-2010, 01:40 AM
aren't most guys here boxing fans too? i dont understand this boxing vs. mma talk. i like both sports for what they are. shit, i even like high school, college, freestyle/greco wrestling.
at the end of the day, i like seeing top notch talent pitted against another top notch foe. boxing and mma provide both a few times a year.
Yeah and boxing fans are notorious for calling some boxers bums but on the MMA board its considered an act of hate to call a bum a bum. Godfather was about to cry at one point on this thread.
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:41 AM
It should, considering it's been around longer and this is a boxing forum.
Not to mention MMA wasn't that big during the prime of this forum.
So...fail.
Yes, that's my point. This is a boxing forum.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 01:42 AM
aren't most guys here boxing fans too? i dont understand this boxing vs. mma talk. i like both sports for what they are. shit, i even like high school, college, freestyle/greco wrestling.
at the end of the day, i like seeing top notch talent pitted against another top notch foe. boxing and mma provide both a few times a year.
Dude, I am a huge boxing fan. I've watched fights since Ali was still Clay. And I love the fact that both sports can co exist.
The problem is there are a few boxing fans that must feel threatened by the success of MMA and the UFC in particular. They never miss an opportunity to come in here and trash the sport.
I would be equally pissed if some clown was on the General Forum mindlessly trashing boxing. Why do it?
I can't wait for Cain-Lesnar. Cain may not hit as hard as Carwin but he throws very straight and sharp punches. But Lesnar proved he's a tough guy to stop. Cain will have his hands full. And he doesn't want to end up on his back even once.
Another great fight.
My only question with that fight is..
1: Cain is a lot smaller than both Carwin and Lesnar, that's a big factor.
2: Cain had trouble stopping Big Bum Rothwell and couldn't stop Kongo despite punching them 1,000 times. If Carwin couldn't stop Lesnar, can Cain?
3: Cain's chin isn't that great, Lesnar can put him away with a big shot, standing or grounded.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 01:44 AM
Yes, that's my point. This is a boxing forum.
Actually the site is called Fightbeat and has an MMA forum.
The site has evolved. You haven't.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 01:45 AM
Plus is there a boxing forum out there bigger than Sherdog?
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:46 AM
Actually the site is called Fightbeat and has an MMA forum.
The site has evolved. You haven't.
:lol: Ok.
joony
07-04-2010, 01:46 AM
I havent bashed boxing once
i wasn't singling you out. but i'm just saying, i often read folks compare boxing and mma. i don't support one over the other. they're two different sports and business.
whoever mentioned that duddy/chavez thread not being popular is dead wrong though. that was a shit fight even from a boxing fan's standpoint.
i'm sure you won't get more than 3 pages of thread if matt brown and chris lyrtle headlined a ppv.
There probably was...but they got tired of talking about how Floyd and Pac wont fight each other and moved on and started trolling MMA boards out of spite.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 01:47 AM
My only question with that fight is..
1: Cain is a lot smaller than both Carwin and Lesnar, that's a big factor.
2: Cain had trouble stopping Big Bum Rothwell and couldn't stop Kongo despite punching them 1,000 times. If Carwin couldn't stop Lesnar, can Cain?
3: Cain's chin isn't that great, Lesnar can put him away with a big shot, standing or grounded.
I agree those are big questions. In the end, I think Brock will be too big and strong.
i wasn't singling you out. but i'm just saying, i often read folks compare boxing and mma. i don't support one over the other. they're two different sports and business.
whoever mentioned that duddy/chavez thread not being popular is dead wrong though. that was a shit fight even from a boxing fan's standpoint.
i'm sure you won't get more than 3 pages of thread if matt brown and chris lyrtle headlined a ppv.
My point was that boxing is dull at the moment. Which is exactly why they are here trolling. They have nothing else to do and are spiteful crybabies.
Barristan
07-04-2010, 01:49 AM
Anyways I'm off to bed. I can't wait for the next UFC so we can do this again. :bears:
I agree those are big questions. In the end, I think Brock will be too big and strong.
I thought Brock was going to wilt when Carwin was on top of him....I knew how hard of a worker he was and that kept playing through my mind when I was seeing him take the punishment. I was just hoping he'd do something and he responded. Was so impressed with his heart that it made me even more of a fan. :bears:
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 01:50 AM
:lol: Ok.
Embrace it bro. Your fellow boxing fans won't turn their backs on you. They'll still love you.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 01:50 AM
Anyways I'm off to bed. I can't wait for the next UFC so we can do this again. :bears:
Thats right. You wont answer my questions so run to your empty bed.
Anyways I'm off to bed. I can't wait for the next UFC so we can do this again. :bears:
You should probably be banned for admitting to trolling. I'd rather have Hanzy back spamming to all hell than see you post once a month.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 01:51 AM
I thought Brock was going to wilt when Carwin was on top of him....I knew how hard of a worker he was and that kept playing through my mind when I was seeing him take the punishment. I was just hoping he'd do something and he responded. Was so impressed with his heart that it made me even more of a fan. :bears:
He kicked Shane off about three times. You cant stop a fight when the guy on the ground keeps kicking off on you.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 01:53 AM
I thought Brock was going to wilt when Carwin was on top of him....I knew how hard of a worker he was and that kept playing through my mind when I was seeing him take the punishment. I was just hoping he'd do something and he responded. Was so impressed with his heart that it made me even more of a fan. :bears:
Me too. The dude showed that he is more than size and athletic ability. He's got a big will as well. When he got back to his feet at the end of round one the 6 people I was watching the fight with went bananas. It just showed what the dude is made of.
That being said, if you watch the replay, he never really got hurt standing. He was overwhelmed when Carwin exploded but only the one uppercut really landed solid on their feet. On the ground, the punches and elbows did damage but Brock was always aware and moving to defend.
What? I didn't say anything about the stoppage.
joony
07-04-2010, 01:54 AM
My point was that boxing is dull at the moment. Which is exactly why they are here trolling. They have nothing else to do and are spiteful crybabies.
understood. yea, i do see sarcastic comments and the word, 'bums' being thrown around. but then again, i'm not sure if those same guys and their boxing acumen are taken seriously in boxing threads
Me too. The dude showed that he is more than size and athletic ability. He's got a big will as well. When he got back to his feet at the end of round one the 6 people I was watching the fight with went bananas. It just showed what the dude is made of.
That being said, if you watch the replay, he never really got hurt standing. He was overwhelmed when Carwin exploded but only the one uppercut really landed solid on their feet. On the ground, the punches and elbows did damage but Brock was always aware and moving to defend.
Yeah but his face got jacked up...
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 01:54 AM
Anyways I'm off to bed. I can't wait for the next UFC so we can do this again. :bears:
Ahhhh, the appeal of the UFC. Even the most adament haters can't turn away. Welcome my friend.
Beyond the Grave
07-04-2010, 01:54 AM
I'd be bitter too if I hated MMA and a so called engineer and a pro wrestler with 5 fights do over guaranteed a million buys, and the fucking HW champions of boxing get dropped from the biggest boxing network in America. :laughing:
What's funny is that nobody in General Discussions even posted a thread about it hmmmmmmm
Anyway, like I said with my dad and my brother(although he watched a bit more than the former), I bet you the UFC and MMA as a whole gained a lot of fans tonight. Lesnar draws in casuals like no one else in the sport, and he had strong support from the undercard guys. Funny thing is, my dad wrestled himself so he doesn't even find the ground game boring. And appreciates the submission holds. Even fans with less tolerance for the ground game had to be satisfied with the fights tonight. Two wars(Bonnar-Pollack, Akiyama-Leben) and then the drama filled main event.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 01:58 AM
What's funny is that nobody in General Discussions even posted a thread about it hmmmmmmm
Good point. After all this is a boxing forum as Steve pointed out. You figured they would be all over that instead of trolling the MMA forum.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 02:00 AM
Anyway, like I said with my dad and my brother(although he watched a bit more than the former), I bet you the UFC and MMA as a whole gained a lot of fans tonight. Lesnar draws in casuals like no one else in the sport, and he had strong support from the undercard guys. Funny thing is, my dad wrestled himself so he doesn't even find the ground game boring. And appreciates the submission holds. Even fans with less tolerance for the ground game had to be satisfied with the fights tonight. Two wars(Bonnar-Pollack, Akiyama-Leben) and then the drama filled main event.
We were saying the same thing at my house. None of the fights were boring even those that spent some time on the ground.
I don't know that I've ever seen a card with so many submission attempts and big punches. Freaking Lytle throws nothing but bombs and then sinks in one of the coolest subs ever.
Bob N Weave
07-04-2010, 02:02 AM
Anyone who says that was a shitty card is clearly biased and has an agenda.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 02:05 AM
Anyone who says that was a shitty card is clearly biased and has an agenda.
No kidding. This was an MMA's fans dream card. Seriously, how can you not appreciate the wins by Bonnar, Lytle and Leben on the undercard. Each were in tough ass fights and pulled out wins.
bigdawg
07-04-2010, 02:48 AM
I gotta be honest this was the first MMA PPV card that I took in and I must say the shit was whack to me. When the dudes are standing and boxing their technique is fucking horrible. Then when they go to the ground they throw hella punches while grappling. Which is boring to me as well. Don't like the idea of dry humping. Then they get tired and lay on each other. In the case of the Lesnar fight yea Lesnar got the win and I actually wanted him to win but damn he was scared to death when dude let his hands go. Then all he did was wait till the cat got tired out. The other dude was done after the first round and it was over. I don't get all the hoopla that surrounds MMA. But that's just my opinion. I'll Holla 5000
The boxing is very different. For a multitude of reasons. Not as good, technically. And of you don't like grappling then it's just not for you. Some people don't but it's a major part of the sport.Kudos for at least discussing your opinions in a civilized manner.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 03:18 AM
Im just sitting here thinking to myself. Brock lesner submitted this guy with a triangle.
A fucking submission. If this guy is learning submissions, imagine how good he can be. Win or lose, he is still learning so much. Its amazing to see him grow.
Im just sitting here thinking to myself. Brock lesner submitted this guy with a triangle.
A fucking submission. If this guy is learning submissions, <b>imagine how good he can be.</b> Win or lose, he is still learning so much. Its amazing to see him grow.
:lol: not while his stand up is so fucking horrible. he's no more evolved than other wrestlers like mark coleman. just bigger.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 03:43 AM
:lol: not while his stand up is so fucking horrible. he's no more evolved than other wrestlers like mark coleman. just bigger.
His standup is horrible because he didnt want to trade with Carwin? Despite that, standup can be improved upon. Ask Josh Koshchek and Rashad Evans about that. Both had bad standup and now its very good.
His standup is horrible because he didnt want to trade with Carwin? Despite that, standup can be improved upon. Ask Josh Koshchek and Rashad Evans about that. Both had bad standup and now its very good.
bad comparison. brock is quite athletic, however his upper body is way too big. his tree trunk arms will never be able to throw a correct hook with any sort of speed or combination. carwin while a big puncher has exactly the same problem. That's not something that can be "corrected".
throughout the history of mma, these giant wrestlers have never been able to punch well or correctly, apart from maybe a straight right. That will never change. Too big/thick too cumbersome.
The Genius
07-04-2010, 04:02 AM
Not exactly. It's more like boxing fans logging on to a boxing website.
Stop using logic in the MMA section.
bad comparison. brock is quite athletic, however his upper body is way too big. his tree trunk arms will never be able to throw a correct hook with any sort of speed or combination. carwin while a big puncher has exactly the same problem. That's not something that can be "corrected".
throughout the history of mma, these giant wrestlers have never been able to punch well or correctly, apart from maybe a straight right. That will never change. Too big/thick too cumbersome.
Probably right.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 04:30 AM
bad comparison. brock is quite athletic, however his upper body is way too big. his tree trunk arms will never be able to throw a correct hook with any sort of speed or combination. carwin while a big puncher has exactly the same problem. That's not something that can be "corrected".
throughout the history of mma, these giant wrestlers have never been able to punch well or correctly, apart from maybe a straight right. That will never change. Too big/thick too cumbersome.Valuev can throw a proper hook and he is bigger than Lesner.
Valuev can throw a proper hook and he is bigger than Lesner.
he's naturally bigger but not built up like a bolder.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 04:50 AM
he's naturally bigger but not built up like a bolder bigger.
Lesner's only 6-3. 265 pounds. He can train his hands properly. It not impossible.
Lesner's only 6-3. 265 pounds. He can train his hands properly. <b>It not impossible.</b>
it is to a certain extent.
he might be able to learn how to throw say a hook with correct form, but it will be slow as shit and will been seen from a mile away. his bodies is just too thick, so while it lends well for grappling, it never will for standup. he'll never be able to throw a combination with any matter.
obviously like other wrestlers he'll try to negate this by taking guys down before they get the chance.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 05:56 AM
it is to a certain extent.
he might be able to learn how to throw say a hook with correct form, but it will be slow as shit and will been seen from a mile away. his bodies is just too thick, so while it lends well for grappling, it never will for standup. he'll never be able to throw a combination with any matter.
obviously like other wrestlers he'll try to negate this by taking guys down before they get the chance.
Its the heavyweight division. He doesnt have to be particularly fast. He is fast on the ground. Thats actually the most important thing.
Andrew
07-04-2010, 10:24 AM
Its the heavyweight division. He doesnt have to be particularly fast. He is fast on the ground. Thats actually the most important thing.
You seem to be really defensive here GF. Who? knows hes fast on the ground and he knows its important. What hes saying about Brocks standup makes a lot of sense and I think you know that.
Bob N Weave
07-04-2010, 12:23 PM
Its the heavyweight division. He doesnt have to be particularly fast. He is fast on the ground. Thats actually the most important thing.
I can see Brock really having problems with good strikers with good TD defense. Fortunately for him, the closest thing to that in the UFC may be Dos Santos. And we really haven't even see his TDD tested.
bigdawg
07-04-2010, 12:59 PM
All I know with all of Lesnars upper body strength and I'm willing to bet he's prolly one of the strongest guys in the sport that whenever he gets a lock on you you can pretty much guarantee it's a wrap due to his sheer strength. However his standup game fucking sucks. He looked like scared bitch in there last night. I'll Holla 5000
Good night of fights last night. I had a packed house for my annual 4th of July party, and everyone enjoyed the fights. I can't remember the last time I saw so many people pumped up for a fight as they were last night.
What a shame that the same scumbag jackasses have to come in here and cry about a sport they supposedly hate, yet watch every single time it is on.
TFK
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:13 PM
Good night of fights last night. I had a packed house for my annual 4th of July party, and everyone enjoyed the fights. I can't remember the last time I saw so many people pumped up for a fight as they were last night.
What a shame that the same scumbag jackasses have to come in here and cry about a sport they supposedly hate, yet watch every single time it is on.
TFK
Yeah, God forbid people come here to post their thoughts after a show.
Yeah, God forbid people come here to post their thoughts after a show.
People do that all the time.
But then weak ass scumbags like you have to come in and wet your diaper, complaining like a little bitch about a sport you supposedly hate, but never miss a fight.
Really, don't you have anything better to do than act like some little 12 year old faggot?
TFK
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:24 PM
People do that all the time.
But then weak ass scumbags like you have to come in and wet your diaper, complaining like a little bitch about a sport you supposedly hate, but never miss a fight.
Really, don't you have anything better to do than act like some little 12 year old faggot?
TFK
Ha, look at this fucking guy. Relax. I miss fights all the time. I watched last night and I came here to talk about it.
Who's really being a crybaby here?
Ha, look at this fucking guy. Relax. I miss fights all the time. I watched last night and I came here to talk about it.
Who's really being a crybaby here?
You. You're a crybaby pussy. You've never contributed anything to the MMA forum except for your weak ass trolling. Every UFC event that comes on, you come here and act like the bitch you are.
Get a life, douchebag.
TFK
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:33 PM
You. You're a crybaby pussy. You've never contributed anything to the MMA forum except for your weak ass trolling. Every UFC event that comes on, you come here and act like the bitch you are.
Get a life, douchebag.
TFK
Yep. That's what I thought. You're the crybaby.
You're sitting in front of your computer all mad right now, aren't you TFK? Just furious.
Yep. That's what I thought. You're the crybaby.
You're sitting in front of your computer all mad right now, aren't you TFK? Just furious.
Not mad, just wondering why some loser has nothing better to do then come in and constantly bash a sport he watches every chance he gets. And does it like a little crybaby bitch.
TFK
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:38 PM
Not mad, just wondering why some loser has nothing better to do then come in and constantly bash a sport he watches every chance he gets. And does it like a little crybaby bitch.
TFK
Now you're just making stuff up.
Damn, a few more pages and this meltdown will border on HOF worthy.
steve_dave
Now you're just making stuff up.
Damn, a few more pages and this meltdown will border on HOF worthy.
steve_dave
You really think your pathetic crying is HOF worthy?
It's clear you don't like getting called out for being the crybaby that you are. Oh well, it is what it is.
TFK
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:43 PM
You really think your pathetic crying is HOF worthy?
It's clear you don't like getting called out for being the crybaby that you are. Oh well, it is what it is.
TFK
There we go TFK, I'm glad you're calming down a little.
I didn't mean to get you so angry. Sorry buddy.
There we go TFK, I'm glad you're calming down a little.
I didn't mean to get you so angry. Sorry buddy.
.....cried Steve Dave while counting the minutes to UFC 117.
TFK
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:49 PM
.....cried Steve Dave while counting the minutes to UFC 117.
TFK
You're a faggot... wahhhhhhhhhhh
You're a crybaby douche.... wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
- TFK, like five minutes ago.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 01:51 PM
You seem to be really defensive here GF. Who? knows hes fast on the ground and he knows its important. What hes saying about Brocks standup makes a lot of sense and I think you know that.
Im not defensive agaisnt who? Im just discussing it with him. I was defensive against others on here, so when i talk to who? it just seems that continuing the defensive angle. Its like talking to someone right agfter they were in an argument. They are still going to be a little loud.
You're a faggot... wahhhhhhhhhhh
You're a crybaby douche.... wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
- TFK, like five minutes ago.
I call it like I see it.
TFK
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 01:54 PM
I call it like I see it.
TFK
Same. :bears:
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 02:12 PM
Curious how long someone would last in the General Forum if they were constantly using verbiage like "this isn't a real sport", "these guys aren't real athletes", "bums fighting bums" to describe boxing.
I come into the UFC 116 thread to discuss an absolutely great night of fights with other fans and half the post are from Barristain and Steve doing nothing but slamming the sport, the fighters, their pay, etc.
Whats the best MMA site to post at? This is really getting old.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Curious how long someone would last in the General Forum if they were constantly using verbiage like "this isn't a real sport", "these guys aren't real athletes", "bums fighting bums" to describe boxing.
I come into the UFC 116 thread to discuss an absolutely great night of fights with other fans and half the post are from Barristain and Steve doing nothing but slamming the sport, the fighters, their pay, etc.
Whats the best MMA site to post at? This is really getting old.
Well we can put them on ignore on the days of big fights.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Well we can put them on ignore on the days of big fights.
scratch that. Steve-Dave is an admin and they cant be put on ignore for some reason.
Bob N Weave
07-04-2010, 02:21 PM
I think ot may be due to his own frustration at his profession. After all, I'm sure that many people think that he is not a "real" journalist.
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Curious how long someone would last in the General Forum if they were constantly using verbiage like "this isn't a real sport", "these guys aren't real athletes", "bums fighting bums" to describe boxing.
I come into the UFC 116 thread to discuss an absolutely great night of fights with other fans and half the post are from Barristain and Steve doing nothing but slamming the sport, the fighters, their pay, etc.
Whats the best MMA site to post at? This is really getting old.
I wouldn't worry about it on my end. I'm finished with cage fighting for a while after the show last night. I'll download a copy of Toney/Couture and probably comment on that, but beyond that there's nothing out there that interests me.
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 02:23 PM
I think ot may be due to his own frustration at his profession. After all, I'm sure that many people think that he is not a "real" journalist.
:lol:
Why you getting personal, Bob? I don't know anything about you, and if I did I'd have far too much class to bring it up.
Trplsec
07-04-2010, 02:24 PM
scratch that. Steve-Dave is an admin and they cant be put on ignore for some reason.
And I don't want anyone locked out or banned or anything. This is a boxing forum and these guys are protective and defensive. I get that.
There has to be a better pure MMA Forum for guys that just want to talk MMA without the boxing vs MMA tint on things.
I've honestly never visited any of the MMA site I see people mention because I enjoy the MMA discussion in here with guys like TFK, yourself, TLC and a few others. But man, you have to admit the slamming gets old. Hell, TLC and I rarely see eye-to-eye on things but at least we are fans of the sport.
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 02:26 PM
And I don't want anyone locked out or banned or anything. This is a boxing forum and these guys are protective and defensive. I get that.
There has to be a better pure MMA Forum for guys that just want to talk MMA without the boxing vs MMA tint on things.
I've honestly never visited any of the MMA site I see people mention because I enjoy the MMA discussion in here with guys like TFK, yourself, TLC and a few others. But man, you have to admit the slamming gets old. Hell, TLC and I rarely see eye-to-eye on things but at least we are fans of the sport.
Don't worry about it, I'm done here.
Anthony
07-04-2010, 02:28 PM
And I don't want anyone locked out or banned or anything. This is a boxing forum and these guys are protective and defensive. I get that.
There has to be a better pure MMA Forum for guys that just want to talk MMA without the boxing vs MMA tint on things.
I've honestly never visited any of the MMA site I see people mention because I enjoy the MMA discussion in here with guys like TFK, yourself, TLC and a few others. But man, you have to admit the slamming gets old. Hell, TLC and I rarely see eye-to-eye on things but at least we are fans of the sport.
I give this site two years before the MMA section is bigger than the boxing section. But yeah i dont know. I post other places, but i again, i dont know them well. Its more fun here.
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 02:30 PM
I give this site two years before the MMA section is bigger than the boxing section. But yeah i dont know. I post other places, but i again, i dont know them well. Its more fun here.
:lol:
Bob N Weave
07-04-2010, 02:34 PM
:lol:
Why you getting personal, Bob? I don't know anything about you, and if I did I'd have far too much class to bring it up.
It's a serious theory Seteve_Dave. It's obviously some type of insecurity issue with you and I am just trying to figure out why. You obviously have a deep resentment for the sport and get a rise out of deflating our discussions about it. Not meant to be a shot at you man, just trying to
make sense of it all.
steve_dave
07-04-2010, 02:37 PM
It's a serious theory Seteve_Dave. It's obviously some type of insecurity issue with you and I am just trying to figure out why. You obviously have a deep resentment for the sport and get a rise out of deflating our discussions about it. Not meant to be a shot at you man, just trying to
make sense of it all.
I don't think so, but thanks for the consideration Bob. :bears:
Buddy Rydell
07-04-2010, 07:30 PM
Carwin
Silva
Lytle
Soszynski
Sotiropoulos
Grove
Tuchscherer
Well, I would have picked Akiyama to win, so I would have gotten only three right out of 7. I was SHOCKED that Leben could pull that off.
Azazel
07-08-2010, 12:40 AM
Do you think we would be laughing at Fedor vs Overeem? Those guys happen to be real fighters. The guys tonight were two gorillas who should be flipping burgers not on PPV.
I agree with you about Carwin, he shouldn't be a fighter and these type of guy won't be revelant in a few years when the pay gets decent. But Lesnar, while his standup sucks, showed true profesionnalism , ''ring'' awareness and toughness by surviving the onslaught.
Azazel
07-08-2010, 12:42 AM
ANd people talk about about how pathetic are the bashers who are probably bitter boxing fans, I find it far more laughable to see the UFC lover not being disgusted by Carwin lack of professionalism and cardio and trying to pass it off as normal to see a top contender fighting in a championship fight on a huge PPV gassing after 3 minutes. Must be some real insecure fellow
Azazel
07-08-2010, 12:46 AM
Bullshit. How you gonna stop the fight when most of the punches werent landing? If Lenser's was hurt, how the fuck did he end up on his feet at the end of the round?
many many fights are stopped way earlier than this one was. The ref made an awesome call, but I wouldn't be shocked at all had it been stopped and yes, maybe it was because of LEsnar star status.
Anthony
07-08-2010, 01:32 AM
many many fights are stopped way earlier than this one was. The ref made an awesome call, but I wouldn't be shocked at all had it been stopped and yes, maybe it was because of LEsnar star status.
Problem is the ref told him to do something and he would. He kicked Shane off of him three times, controlled shane's wrist more than once. Was punching Shane's face back on more than one occassion. So the ref isnt going to yell show me something, you show him something and he stops the fight. That would be ridiculous IMO.
Trplsec
07-08-2010, 10:51 AM
ANd people talk about about how pathetic are the bashers who are probably bitter boxing fans, I find it far more laughable to see the UFC lover not being disgusted by Carwin lack of professionalism and cardio and trying to pass it off as normal to see a top contender fighting in a championship fight on a huge PPV gassing after 3 minutes. Must be some real insecure fellow
Fighters in MMA and boxing punch themselves out all the time. He went for the KO, blew his wad and Lesnar didn't go anywhere. Carwin will learn to be more economical and return as a better fighter.
Say what you want about Carwin, but he is still one of the most dangerous HW's in MMA. His punching power is the real deal.
James68
07-08-2010, 11:04 AM
Lesner
Leben
lytle
Sotiropoulos
bonner
Romero
schaub
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Do you think we would be laughing at Fedor vs Overeem? Those guys happen to be real fighters. The guys tonight were two gorillas who should be flipping burgers not on PPV.
I was certainly laughing when Fedor was subbed in a minute by Werdum. That was a world class move by Fedor, diving into the guard of a 2 time BJJ world champion. Fucking Hilarious you bring up Overeem, He's a real fighter, it's not like he's ever turned tail and ran like a bitch in a fight before..... :lol: You should watch more MMA before you say stupid shit. See Overeem vs Sergei Kharitonov
jarhead
07-08-2010, 01:31 PM
And I don't want anyone locked out or banned or anything. This is a boxing forum and these guys are protective and defensive. I get that.
There has to be a better pure MMA Forum for guys that just want to talk MMA without the boxing vs MMA tint on things.
I've honestly never visited any of the MMA site I see people mention because I enjoy the MMA discussion in here with guys like TFK, yourself, TLC and a few others. But man, you have to admit the slamming gets old. Hell, TLC and I rarely see eye-to-eye on things but at least we are fans of the sport.
I am right on line with you on this. The boxing vs MMA discussion is so old and tired. We all know it only really surfaces here at fightbeat, beings it has been a boxing site for so long. I have always enjoyed guys like REED who have come over and really embraced MMA. Of course, he's a boxing guy and makes no bones about it, but gets into his new fandom. Hell I love the good debates, I'm just so spent on the boxing vs MMA shit. I honestly can't figure out why guys can't embrace both, I do.
That is why REED is the man. He's not afraid to like something other than boxing and doesn't feel threatened by it like a lot of boxing fans.
atomicdOGg34
07-08-2010, 08:27 PM
dude everyone knows MMA isnt a real sport
i watch the real shit..... nascar
i bet dale jr would put a whoopin on good ole lesnar, then drink a budweiser afterwards
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