People who are just bad at acting

[r o o s t e r]

Liz Hurley

[Jimmy]

Adam Sandler

[ArturoGatti]

Keeanu?

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Hadyn Christianson. (sp?)

Ice T

[Slice N Dice]

Snoop Dogg

[Buddy Rydell]

As I recall, Snoop Dogg was good in John Singleton's Baby Boy.

[Buddy Rydell]

Liz Hurley

Loved her in Bedazzled.

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

January Jones
Ben Affleck
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Chuck Norris
Sylvester Stallone
Scarlett Johansson

[Nobleart]

Adam Sandler

Sandler was good in both "Punch Drunk Love" and "Funny People". Granted he tends to really suck when he makes those shitty movies where he mugs for the camera for two hours.

[Nobleart]

Paul Walker
Vin Diesel

[Anthony]

Sandler was good in both "Punch Drunk Love" and "Funny People". Granted he tends to really suck when he makes those shitty movies where he mugs for the camera for two hours.
Sandler was also excellent in Spanglish

[Anthony]

January Jones
Ben Affleck
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Chuck Norris
Sylvester Stallone
Scarlett Johansson
Disagree with Will Smith for obvious reasons. Watch:
six degrees of separation

Stallone was great in Copland as well as in Capone.
He was very good in First blood and Fist.

Rocky had great acting too.

[Anthony]

Channing Tatum

[TKO]

The cast of friends, Well most of them

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Disagree with Will Smith for obvious reasons. Watch:
six degrees of separation

Stallone was great in Copland as well as in Capone.
He was very good in First blood and Fist.

Rocky had great acting too.

To me, though, thats akin to saying Ali is a great fighter NOW --- check him out in the 60's. Smith long ago gave up credible acting, and if anyone mentions Seven Pounds as countenance, I'll scream :lol:

Stallone has been awful in a hundred films.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

January Jones
Ben Affleck
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Chuck Norris
Sylvester Stallone
Scarlett Johansson

Will Smith is a bad pick.

Good picks would be those that have no chance of getting an Oscar nomination. Smith has been nominated TWICE.

Clint Eastwood? Really? Clint Eastwood is a bad actor? Really?

[ArturoGatti]

January Jones
Ben Affleck
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Chuck Norris
Sylvester Stallone
Scarlett Johansson
Clint Eastwood has no range as an actor, but tje one character he plays he plays very well. Ben Affleck is decent, though is better as a director.

Will Smith I do not like very much, but he is a solid actor.

Bizzare list, tbh.

[ArturoGatti]

Will Smith is a bad pick.

Good picks would be those that have no chance of getting an Oscar nomination. Smith has been nominated TWICE.

Clint Eastwood? Really? Clint Eastwood is a bad actor? Really?
Many excellent actors have no chance of getting an Oscar nomination. And plenty of mediocre actors have received oscar nominations.

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Many excellent actors have no chance of getting an Oscar nomination. And plenty of mediocre actors have received oscar nominations.

Absolutely true. Smith is seldom different to Schwarzenegger or Eastwood --- guys who play almost line-for-line the same character and somehow wind up being respected (Eastwood), loved (Schwarzenegger), or both to varying degrees (Smith).

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Clint Eastwood has no range as an actor, but tje one character he plays he plays very well. Ben Affleck is decent, though is better as a director.

Will Smith I do not like very much, but he is a solid actor.

Bizzare list, tbh.

Which makes him a bad actor, with an inexplicable degree of respect.

Who else do you disagree with?

[ArturoGatti]

January is think is okay. Not great but adequate.

Clint is the man, however.

[r o o s t e r]

January Jones
Ben Affleck
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Chuck Norris
Sylvester Stallone
Scarlett Johansson

scarlett johansson has no place in this thread. :nono:

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Johansson can act? Im yet to see it.

[r o o s t e r]

Johansson can act? Im yet to see it.

lost in translation, match point, man who wasn't there, vicky cristina barcelona, ...

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Which makes him a bad actor, with an inexplicable degree of respect.

Who else do you disagree with?

Lack of range makes a bad actor? What just because Eastwood probably couldn't play a flamboyant queer?

Dude...acing is all about making the character believable. Eastwood makes his character's believable in in those roles he conveys genuine emotions. You may not seem him crying like a baby or acting like a man possessed...but he's a real genuine character.

I have to completely call into question your opinions on acting and movies now.

[Jimmy]

Sandler was good in both "Punch Drunk Love" and "Funny People". Granted he tends to really suck when he makes those shitty movies where he mugs for the camera for two hours.

The films i've seen of him he plays the same type of character. Can get too much, ya know.

He was actually funny in the waterboy tho, granted. The scenes of him playin american football was pretty funny :l3:

[Jimmy]

Lack of range makes a bad actor? What just because Eastwood probably couldn't play a flamboyant queer?

Dude...acing is all about making the character believable. Eastwood makes his character's believable in in those roles he conveys genuine emotions. You may not seem him crying like a baby or acting like a man possessed...but he's a real genuine character.

I have to completely call into question your opinions on acting and movies now.

Eastwood is one of my all-time favourite actors. Just superb.

[Buddy Rydell]

Lack of range makes a bad actor? What just because Eastwood probably couldn't play a flamboyant queer?

Dude...acing is all about making the character believable. Eastwood makes his character's believable in in those roles he conveys genuine emotions. You may not seem him crying like a baby or acting like a man possessed...but he's a real genuine character.

I have to completely call into question your opinions on acting and movies now.

Ending of Unforgiven. If that's not a man possessed, I don't know what is.

[Anthony]

To me, though, thats akin to saying Ali is a great fighter NOW --- check him out in the 60's. Smith long ago gave up credible acting, and if anyone mentions Seven Pounds as countenance, I'll scream :lol:

Stallone has been awful in a hundred films.
Stallone has the talent to act, but he doesn't make his money that. Again, check out copland. That wasn't in the 60s.

How did Will Smith give up his credibility in acting? His performance in The Pursuit of Happiness was terrific.

[REEDsART]

Will Smith is a bad pick.

Good picks would be those that have no chance of getting an Oscar nomination. Smith has been nominated TWICE.

Clint Eastwood? Really? Clint Eastwood is a bad actor? Really?YES...Great DIRECTOR Though...



REED:Lok:

[REEDsART]

Lack of range makes a bad actor? What just because Eastwood probably couldn't play a flamboyant queer?

Dude...acing is all about making the character believable. Eastwood makes his character's believable in in those roles he conveys genuine emotions. You may not seem him crying like a baby or acting like a man possessed...but he's a real genuine character.

I have to completely call into question your opinions on acting and movies now.
Having Character Parts WRITTEN FOR You Doesn't Make You a GREAT Actor...A GREAT Actor is a Guy who Can Pull off MULTIPLE Roles CONVINCINGLY...NO, Eastwood Could NEVER Pull Off a Flamboyant Queer...But Gary Oldman, Edward Norton, Don Cheadle or Kevin Spacey Could...Those Cats have Run the Gamut of CHARACTERS in their Careers...THAT's Acting...

Portraying the SAME Motherfucker Over & Over & Over & Over ISN'T Acting, Especially when that Character is Basically a Caricature of YOURSELF...


REED:hammert:

[r o o s t e r]

yeah it is.

eastwood has a limited range, but he can act. anyone who can stand in front of the camera and seem convincing can act.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

yeah it is.

eastwood has a limited range, but he can act. anyone who can stand in front of the camera and seem convincing can act.

Exactly. What's so hard to understand about that?

[REEDsART]

yeah it is.

eastwood has a limited range, but he can act. anyone who can stand in front of the camera and seem convincing can act.
It's a Level of Acting that SHOULDN'T B Appreciated as Much as the Level of Those who Can B "Convincing" in DIVERSE Roles...Sorry, but Asking Clint Eastwood to PLAY Clint Eastwood ISN'T "Acting" To REED...



REED:shit:

[Ugotabe Kidding]

It's a Level of Acting that SHOULDN'T B Appreciated as Much as the Level of Those who Can B "Convincing" in DIVERSE Roles...Sorry, but Asking Clint Eastwood to PLAY Clint Eastwood ISN'T "Acting" To REED...



REED:shit:

I see your point but you still greatly underestimate the difficulty of it. I have studied a bit of acting and to be able to express such powerful emotions in front of camera is a real skill, it seems easier than it is, believe me.

To see the difference, watch Eastwood's Pale Rider and then compare that to Dolph Lundgren's remake of the same film, Missionary Man. You will notice how the two play the same role, neither changes their facial expression very much, and yet, one of them is 100x the better. There you can see what it means when someone actually can not act.

That being said, I do understand if somebody ranks the actors with great variety over the likes of Eastwood, Nocholson, Hackman etc., but to say these guys are bad actors is simply wrong, no two ways about it

[Destruction and Mayhem]

I see your point but you still greatly underestimate the difficulty of it. I have studied a bit of acting and to be able to express such powerful emotions in front of camera is a real skill, it seems easier than it is, believe me.

To see the difference, watch Eastwood's Pale Rider and then compare that to Dolph Lundgren's remake of the same film, Missionary Man. You will notice how the two play the same role, neither changes their facial expression very much, and yet, one of them is 100x the better. There you can see what it means when someone actually can not act.

That being said, I do understand if somebody ranks the actors with great variety over the likes of Eastwood, Nocholson, Hackman etc., but to say these guys are bad actors is simply wrong, no two ways about it

Very good post.

[TKO]

Exactly. What's so hard to understand about that?

Exactly, for example take will smiths 'range' oh wait a minute he doesn't have one

[ArturoGatti]

I see your point but you still greatly underestimate the difficulty of it. I have studied a bit of acting and to be able to express such powerful emotions in front of camera is a real skill, it seems easier than it is, believe me.

To see the difference, watch Eastwood's Pale Rider and then compare that to Dolph Lundgren's remake of the same film, Missionary Man. You will notice how the two play the same role, neither changes their facial expression very much, and yet, one of them is 100x the better. There you can see what it means when someone actually can not act.

That being said, I do understand if somebody ranks the actors with great variety over the likes of Eastwood, Nocholson, Hackman etc., but to say these guys are bad actors is simply wrong, no two ways about it
Speaking of which, isn't that a remake of High Plains Drifter? I haven't seen PR, but the plot sounds almost identical to HPD.

[REEDsART]

I see your point but you still greatly underestimate the difficulty of it. I have studied a bit of acting and to be able to express such powerful emotions in front of camera is a real skill, it seems easier than it is, believe me.

To see the difference, watch Eastwood's Pale Rider and then compare that to Dolph Lundgren's remake of the same film, Missionary Man. You will notice how the two play the same role, neither changes their facial expression very much, and yet, one of them is 100x the better. There you can see what it means when someone actually can not act.

That being said, I do understand if somebody ranks the actors with great variety over the likes of Eastwood, Nocholson, Hackman etc., but to say these guys are bad actors is simply wrong, no two ways about itSo if Dolph Lundgren Merely Plays a Robotic, Roided Up, Russian Boxer in Every Flick for the Rest of his Life, he TOO Can Be Considered a "Good Actor"???...After All, Lundgren NAILED that Particular Role, Right??...

If Range ISN'T a Factor, Sly Stallone's a Great Actor as Well, for REPEATEDLY Pulling Off 1 of the Most Memorable Characters in Motion Picture History...



REED:cheer:

[REEDsART]

Exactly, for example take will smiths 'range' oh wait a minute he doesn't have one
He's NOT a Great Actor in REED's Opinion, but Will Smith has MORE Range than Eastwood...Hancock, Ali, Pursuit of Happiness, 7 Pounds...NONE of those Characters R Alike...



REED:scared2:

[Nobleart]

There is something to be said for screen presence and charisma. Some guys have it, some guys don't.............even some very good "actors".

[REEDsART]

There is something to be said for screen presence and charisma. Some guys have it, some guys don't.............even some very good "actors".CLEARLY, Eastwood has these Qualities U Speak of...But he's More of 1 Trick Pony w/a HELLUVA Trick...



REED:scared:

[Slice N Dice]

Hugh Grant. I hate that cunt.

[TKO]

He's NOT a Great Actor in REED's Opinion, but Will Smith has MORE Range than Eastwood...Hancock, Ali, Pursuit of Happiness, 7 Pounds...NONE of those Characters R Alike...



REED:scared2:

Playing different characters doesn't mean the guy has range, however 7 pounds was a good (different) performance from smith

[Trplsec]

The thread is about 'Bad Actors". While Eastwood doesn't have the range to go from playing Josie Wales to playing Harvey Milk, I don't think that qualifies him as a bad actor.

The thing about Eastwood is that he has the ability to bring subtle depth to characters he does play. Whether it's a facial expression or the tone with which a line is delivered, there are definitive differences between Harry Callahan and Gunny Highway despite each having Eastwood's tough-guy persona as the base.

Is a guy like Edward Norton a better actor because his acting history doesn't pigeon hole him into certain types of roles? Or is there something to be said for a guy like Eastwood that has the ability, without saying a word, to have you absolutely glued to the screen watching his every nuance?

To me, it's simple, Eastwood has to be a good actor because none of his characters from a dude with no name in 'A Fistfull of Dollars' to Frank Morris in 'Escape from Alcatraz' to Frankie Dunn in 'Million Dollar Baby' seem phony or unbelievable with Eastwood playing them. And each of them had separate depth and flaws that Eastwood brought to life with minimal effort.

That has to be talent.

[Nobleart]

Playing different characters doesn't mean the guy has range, however 7 pounds was a good (different) performance from smith


I really liked his performance in "I Am Legend".

The guy is very calculating in his career and he very rarely takes chances, but I do think he can act when he wants to.

[TKO]

I really liked his performance in "I Am Legend".

The guy is very calculating in his career and he very rarely takes chances, but I do think he can act when he wants to.

I am legend is great for the first 30 minutes and then I thought 'oh this shit again'

Too often he reverts back to that shouting for effect ala Fresh Prince of Bell Air.

[REEDsART]

Playing different characters doesn't mean the guy has range, however 7 pounds was a good (different) performance from smithdisagREED...

That's the Very Definition of "Range", in REED's Opinion...CONVINCINGLY Pulling Off Characters that R NATHAN Alike...For Example, Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie", "Kramer vs. Kramer", "Rain Man" & "Meet the Fockers" Exhibits RANGE...Those Characters R Entirely DIFFERENT People Completely, Portrayed by the Same Individual...That's Range...

Kevin Spacey in "Seven", "Superman Returns", "The Negotiator", "L.A. Confidential" or "American Beauty"...VASTLY Different Characters...THAT's Range...

@ it's Core, Acting is PRETENDING...When U Can CONVINCINGLY Pretend to B MORE Characters than the Next Man Can, U're the BETTER Actor....



REED:cheer:

[TKO]

Of course... My point being that smith playing different characters doesn't mean he has range as an actor. He plays different parts but most of the time it's will playing will

[Anthony]

anyone that has seen six degrees of seperation cant say will cant act.

[r o o s t e r]

@ it's Core, Acting is PRETENDING...When U Can CONVINCINGLY Pretend to B MORE Characters than the Next Man Can, U're the BETTER Actor....


(1) and some people can't pretend to be anybody - they're the people who are just bad at acting.

(2) acting of course isn't only convincingly pretending to be a list of different character types. two people can both put in a convincing turn at a role, but one be much much deeper. clint does a good, iconic, convincing job in a few movies, but there aren't the depths in it that you see in a great performance by dustin hoffmann, de niro, p s hoffmann, ... de niro as jake lamotta is much better than sly as rocky, even though both are good.

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Having Character Parts WRITTEN FOR You Doesn't Make You a GREAT Actor...A GREAT Actor is a Guy who Can Pull off MULTIPLE Roles CONVINCINGLY...NO, Eastwood Could NEVER Pull Off a Flamboyant Queer...But Gary Oldman, Edward Norton, Don Cheadle or Kevin Spacey Could...Those Cats have Run the Gamut of CHARACTERS in their Careers...THAT's Acting...

Portraying the SAME Motherfucker Over & Over & Over & Over ISN'T Acting, Especially when that Character is Basically a Caricature of YOURSELF...


REED:hammert:

Absolutely.

[cdogg187]

January Jones
Ben Affleck
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Chuck Norris
Sylvester Stallone
Scarlett Johansson
Ridiculous

[cdogg187]

Eastwood has been great in 50 movies, you guys are loons

[Nobleart]

Eastwood has been great in 50 movies, you guys are loons


Yeah, but he never dressed up as a flamboyant pirate with a ridiculous accent like Johnny Depp.

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Eastwood has been great in 50 movies, you guys are loons

You can just watch one and youve seen them all. Im not even being sarcastic.

Eastwood's talent is as a director.

[loadedgloves]

Denise Richards in that one Bond film always stands out in my mind as one of the shittiest performances of all time. She was just embarrassing.

[Ugotabe Kidding]

You can just watch one and youve seen them all. Im not even being sarcastic.


You are not being sarcastic, you are just wrong. Of course, Eastwood is a physical actor and thus all his roles remind each other, but he has variety in them. In the westerns, he plays this mysterious killer who doesn't express his feelings or motives, in Alcatraz he plays a guy who is known for his intelligence, Dirty Harry is an assholish tough guy, in Unforgiven and Bridges Of Madison County he has great variety of feelings (even though he doesn't express them yelling and shouting like so many lesser actors would). And so on.

Eastwood's roles are similar only superficially. To make them work takes plenty of effort and skill

[Ugotabe Kidding]

So if Dolph Lundgren Merely Plays a Robotic, Roided Up, Russian Boxer in Every Flick for the Rest of his Life, he TOO Can Be Considered a "Good Actor"???...After All, Lundgren NAILED that Particular Role, Right??...


REED:cheer:

But the thing is, Eastwood does NOT play the same character every time out. That is a misconception

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Eastwood has been great in 50 movies, you guys are loons

word.

Anyone that says that Eastwood can't act doesn't know how to judge acting talent.

As nobleart said...it's probably because he never dressed up as a pirate and acted the fool.

[REEDsART]

Clint Eastwood is an ICONIC Figure that's Typically Played "MAN's Man" Characters....That RESONATES w/Those that Grew Up Watching him...It Also Explains Why Sooooo Many of Ya'll Buy Into his "Understated", Minimalist BULLSHIT...

@ the CORE, Practically EVERY Character he's Portrayed is SIMILAR...To Suggest Otherwise is SILLY...



REED:mj:

[Ugotabe Kidding]

Clint Eastwood is an ICONIC Figure that's Typically Played "MAN's Man" Characters....That RESONATES w/Those that Grew Up Watching him...It Also Explains Why Sooooo Many of Ya'll Buy Into his "Understated", Minimalist BULLSHIT...

@ the CORE, Practically EVERY Character he's Portrayed is SIMILAR...To Suggest Otherwise is SILLY...



REED:mj:

No. If it was all about minimalist bullshit, we would have tens of Eastwoods. It is not like Dirty Harry had the best script ever for an action movie. His characters have more similarities than many other big names, but few actors have the charisma and ability to express strong emotions that Clint can. Certainly no bad actor can do it

[Nobleart]

Clint Eastwood is an ICONIC Figure that's Typically Played "MAN's Man" Characters....That RESONATES w/Those that Grew Up Watching him...It Also Explains Why Sooooo Many of Ya'll Buy Into his "Understated", Minimalist BULLSHIT...

@ the CORE, Practically EVERY Character he's Portrayed is SIMILAR...To Suggest Otherwise is SILLY...



REED:mj:



I may be in the minority here. I actually appreciate his "Understated Minimalist" acting technique.

On the directing front however, I think he's generally over-rated. Sure, he's got some classics, but I think many of his films are rushed and lack any sort of atmosphere.

It may be the reason he is so prolific as a director in his later years, but a lot of his movies are throwaways or just completely over-rated, due to his "Understated Minimalist" directing technique.

[cdogg187]

I don't see how the characters in "The Beguiled" or "Play Misty For Me" or "Bridges Of Madison County" or "Tightrope" are at all like Dirty Harry or The Man With No Name

[Free Ike]

Jack Nicholson
Keenu Reeves
Nick Cage (Coppola)
Shilo la Quiff

[cdogg187]

I hate Nicolas Cage

[Free Ike]

I hate Nicolas Cage

I can't watch a movie he OR kEANU ARE IN.

[REEDsART]

I can't watch a movie he OR kEANU ARE IN.
U CAN'T Watch "Raising Arizona", "Face-Off", "Con-Air", "Point Break" or Any of the "Matrix" Flicks????...



REED:Lok:

[cdogg187]

"Raising Arizona" succeeds IN SPITE OF Nicolas Cage

the rest of those movies you listed, I can not watch

[Free Ike]

U CAN'T Watch "Raising Arizona", "Face-Off", "Con-Air", "Point Break" or Any of the "Matrix" Flicks????...



REED:Lok:

No. In fact, one of my best friends was a huge Matrix fan. He made me watch it. I pointed out how bad Keanu was and he never watched them again. IN FACT, HE is hesitant to recommend anything lest I "Keanu" it.

And No. I cannot get through a single Nick Coppola movie. I almost got though the Las Vegas movie because ELIZABETH SHUE makes my dick hard and I couldn't get through it. Well, that isn't true. I skipped to the end and watched him die lamenting the fact it wasn't real.

[cdogg187]

No. In fact, one of my best friends was a huge Matrix fan. He made me watch it. I pointed out how bad Keanu was and he never watched them again. IN FACT, HE is hesitant to recommend anything lest I "Keanu" it.

And No. I cannot get through a single Nick Coppola movie. I almost got though the Las Vegas movie because ELIZABETH SHUE makes my dick hard and I couldn't get through it. Well, that isn't true. I skipped to the end and watched him die lamenting the fact it wasn't real.
:laugh11:

[TKO]

I actually believe nick cage can act we just don't see, he makes too many Disney blockbuster type movies. I don't mind him in earlier movies..

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

He certainly can (could?) act. Cage's deal is that hes in too many films which are either garbage, or he phones in his character shamelessly.

One guy similar, who I used to really respect as an actor and who has degenerated into a screaming cartoon is Samuel L. Jackson.

[Xplosive]

One of the biggest Hollywood MYTHS is that Nick Cage is a bad actor. He's not bad AT ALL!

He's turned in too many very good performances to be considered a bad actor.

But to answer the question...... Paul Walker and Channing Tatum are the two worst actors in cinematic history.

Paul Walker makes Keanu look like prime Pacino by comparison. And Tatum is EVERY BIT as terrible as Walker, but slightly less annoying.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

One of the biggest Hollywood MYTHS is that Nick Cage is a bad actor. He's not bad AT ALL!

He's turned in too many very good performances to be considered a bad actor.

But to answer the question...... Paul Walker and Channing Tatum are the two worst actors in cinematic history.

Paul Walker makes Keanu look like prime Pacino by comparison. And Tatum is EVERY BIT as terrible as Walker, but slightly less annoying.

As bad as Paul Walker is Hadyn C is worse.

[Nobleart]

One of the biggest Hollywood MYTHS is that Nick Cage is a bad actor. He's not bad AT ALL!

He's turned in too many very good performances to be considered a bad actor.



I think Cage actually may be the most generous actor in cinematic history. He's willing to take one for the team and has the unique ability to recognize he's in a shitty movie and will ham it up at his own expense, just to try to give us something entertaining.

As horrible as "The Wicker Man" was, could any other actor have made it entertaining. People think Cage was being unintentionally hilarious. I'd wager it was completely intentional.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

I never hear anyone say Cage is a bad actor, actually. What people say is that he's annoying. And that he is.

Really bad actor is Ice T. I always felt Sidney Poitier was a bad actor too...definitely the most overrated actor in history. He's very "wooden". I can't stand to watch him on screen.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Morgan Freeman is a guy that tends to play the same role...a wise leader of some sort. Nevertheless he's a phenomenal actor. A man doesn't need to have queers, autistic fucks, cross dressers etc in their resume to be a good actor.

It's kinda like boxing. A guy doesn't need to have jumped through all manner of weight classes to be a great fighter.

[r o o s t e r]

Jack Nicholson
Keenu Reeves
Nick Cage (Coppola)
Shilo la Quiff

bullshit ike.

[r o o s t e r]

I never hear anyone say Cage is a bad actor, actually. What people say is that he's annoying. And that he is.

Really bad actor is Ice T. I always felt Sidney Poitier was a bad actor too...definitely the most overrated actor in history. He's very "wooden". I can't stand to watch him on screen.

:bears: his turn in new jack city is hilarious for how bad it is. the camera makes him very uncomfortable; he couldn't even get the basics right, even his posture and body language seemed fake.

[Free Ike]

bullshit ike.

No, not bullshit. He plays Jack Nicholson in every role. He has no range. He is one of the worst. Whether he plays a killer, a lover, a clown ...he does every role the exact same way. I cannot believe he is considered one of the best when in reality he is one of the worst.

[Hut*Hut]

Pacino's been pretty awful for at least 15 years, too. Seems the fate of every proper cultural icon to become a caricature of himself

[cdogg187]

DeNiro has also degenerated into parody

[Nobleart]

Pacino's been pretty awful for at least 15 years, too. Seems the fate of every proper cultural icon to become a caricature of himself


Pacino was very good as Kevorkian. He was able to drop the "Pacino" character entirely for that part.

[r o o s t e r]

No, not bullshit. He plays Jack Nicholson in every role. He has no range. He is one of the worst. Whether he plays a killer, a lover, a clown ...he does every role the exact same way. I cannot believe he is considered one of the best when in reality he is one of the worst.

(1) ice t can't even play ice t. hayden christensen can't even play hayden christensen. jack nicholson has put in some amazing performances - batman, shining, cuckoo's nest - even if the characters are pretty similar.

(2) even though he prefers to play those caddish roles, he has played different characters sometimes and done it well - 'as good as it gets'.

consider yourself refuted.

[Free Ike]

(1) ice t can't even play ice t. hayden christensen can't even play hayden christensen. jack nicholson has put in some amazing performances - batman, shining, cuckoo's nest - even if the characters are pretty similar.

(2) even though he prefers to play those caddish roles, he has played different characters sometimes and done it well - 'as good as it gets'.

consider yourself refuted.

Hardly. Cuckoo's nest was an awful movie. He played Jack Nicholson in as good as it gets. You are just wrong. Don't worry, you are in majority. He is as bad as the iconic actors before the talky era. Seriously, his portrayal of the joker was the same exact character in the "Shining" , "Cuckoo's Nest." "Good as it gets" show me one role where he didn't play a grumpy, smartass, with his stupid ass way of speaking. You annot find any. Nicholson, unlike Deniro and Pacino, never declined he was awful and still is awful. He was and never will be good. I don't believe in the devil, but if I did Nicholson would be a candidate for selling his soul(something else that is fictional.) He is a talentless hack.

[Xplosive]

As bad as Paul Walker is Hadyn C is worse.

I take it you've never seen the movie Shattered Glass?

Hayden in that movie>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Walker's life

[Destruction and Mayhem]

I take it you've never seen the movie Shattered Glass?

Hayden in that movie>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Walker's life

Paul Walker's life>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hayden in Star Wars.

Sorry but Hayden's performances in Star Wars were so bad that they can never compensate for any even half decent performance he's ever had. I also saw jumpers and he was atrocious in that also.

[Roll With The Punches]

Sean Connery also has no range.....he could at least change his accent when portraying a character who is not supposed to be Scottish

the man is a joke

[Nobleart]

Paul Walker's life>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hayden in Star Wars.

Sorry but Hayden's performances in Star Wars were so bad that they can never compensate for any even half decent performance he's ever had. I also saw jumpers and he was atrocious in that also.



Everybody in those shitty Star Wars prequels sucked, without fail. Ewan MacGregor probably gave the only passable performance, most likely to the dismay of George Lucas.

Blame Lucas, not the actors. He's a shitty director at handling actors.

"Jumpers" was crap, but Christenson was fine in his part.

[Roll With The Punches]

Jumpers is an awesome movie...i've seen it like 5 times

[r o o s t e r]

Cuckoo's nest was an awful movie.

He played Jack Nicholson in as good as it gets.

Seriously, his portrayal of the joker was the same exact character in the "Shining" , "Cuckoo's Nest." "Good as it gets"

show me one role where he didn't play a grumpy, smartass, with his stupid ass way of speaking.

simple question: does jack nicholson do an absolutely appalling job of acting in every movie he's been in? no.

[Free Ike]

simple question: does jack nicholson do an absolutely appalling job of acting in every movie he's been in? no.

If you like his act, then the answer is a simple no. If you don't, then it is yes. He is the same in every single movie. I don't like his act. Therefore, he is always horrible.

[Roll With The Punches]

i feel that way about Sean Connery

how can he play a russian and have a scottish accent....why didnt anyone not allow that to happen

[Free Ike]

i feel that way about Sean Connery

how can he play a russian and have a scottish accent....why didnt anyone not allow that to happen

Agreed. He blows too.The James Bond movies all stink too.

[Xplosive]

You cant compare Connery and Jack.

Nicholson blows Connery out the water and isnt even remotely close.

[REEDsART]

It's Funny How this has Degenerated Into a Nicholson vs. Connery Debate, when BOTH of them R SUPERIOR to Eastwood, in Terms of Acting...As LIMITED as Nicholson & Connery R (in Terms of RANGE), they Blow Eastwood OUT of the Fucking Water...




REED:Pointlaugh:

[D MAN]

Nick Cage

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

It's Funny How this has Degenerated Into a Nicholson vs. Connery Debate, when BOTH of them R SUPERIOR to Eastwood, in Terms of Acting...As LIMITED as Nicholson & Connery R (in Terms of RANGE), they Blow Eastwood OUT of the Fucking Water...




REED:Pointlaugh:

Amen...but no, Eastwood is acting royalty.

[Muzse]

Morgan Freeman is a guy that tends to play the same role...a wise leader of some sort. Nevertheless he's a phenomenal actor. A man doesn't need to have queers, autistic fucks, cross dressers etc in their resume to be a good actor.

It's kinda like boxing. A guy doesn't need to have jumped through all manner of weight classes to be a great fighter.

Freeman was a bad guy in "Wanted."

I loved his line..."...then shoot this motherfucker now!"

Off screen Freeman is an interesting guy to say the least. Had a car crash with his mistress in the passenger seat, then last I heard he was marrying his step grand-daughter.

:jaw:

[cdogg187]

Connery is awful

[Ugotabe Kidding]

It's Funny How this has Degenerated Into a Nicholson vs. Connery Debate, when BOTH of them R SUPERIOR to Eastwood, in Terms of Acting...As LIMITED as Nicholson & Connery R (in Terms of RANGE), they Blow Eastwood OUT of the Fucking Water...




REED:Pointlaugh:

No, both Nicholson and Eastwood are miles above Connery. None of them has that much variety, but two out of three are able to express emotions, which is what acting mostly is about

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Freeman was a bad guy in "Wanted."

I loved his line..."...then shoot this motherfucker now!"

Off screen Freeman is an interesting guy to say the least. Had a car crash with his mistress in the passenger seat, then last I heard he was marrying his step grand-daughter.

:jaw:

:lol:

bizarre fellow indeed.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Connery is awful

Have you seen "Dr No" and "From Russia with Love"? You need to watch those films.

Perhaps Connery has been bad in certain films, but in his PRIME..dude was superb.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

It's Funny How this has Degenerated Into a Nicholson vs. Connery Debate, when BOTH of them R SUPERIOR to Eastwood, in Terms of Acting...As LIMITED as Nicholson & Connery R (in Terms of RANGE), they Blow Eastwood OUT of the Fucking Water...




REED:Pointlaugh:

:atu:

Eastwood is an excellent actor. You're crazy.

[Xplosive]

I'd take Eastwood over Connery 7 days out of the week and twice on Sunday! Neither one was a bad actor. Eastwood was a considerably better one though.

Jack's better than both though.

I mean, ASIDE from the Jack movies that have already been mentioned.

Jack in "Hoffa">>>>>>>> Any Eastwood or Connery performance.

[Xplosive]

BTW - I agree 100% with whoever said Sidney Poitier. He was fucking TERRIBLE!

As far as black actors go, Denzel & Morgan Freeman have more acting talent in one testicle than Poitier's ugly ass!

[Destruction and Mayhem]

BTW - I agree 100% with whoever said Sidney Poitier. He was fucking TERRIBLE!

As far as black actors go, Denzel & Morgan Freeman have more acting talent in one testicle than Poitier's ugly ass!

I said it. And I agree with you 100%.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

I'd take Eastwood over Connery 7 days out of the week and twice on Sunday! Neither one was a bad actor. Eastwood was a considerably better one though.

Jack's better than both though.

I mean, ASIDE from the Jack movies that have already been mentioned.

Jack in "Hoffa">>>>>>>> Any Eastwood or Connery performance.

I haven't seen Hoffa. Connery in the very first two Bond Films is as good (if not better) a performance as any Nicholson performance that I've seen.

Eastwood is simply genius in the man with no name films and he was great in "Dirty Harry" and "Magnum Force". I don't get the Eastwood denigrating.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

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[Roll With The Punches]

Connery is the same character in every movie though..even when he's playing a russian or spaniard..cant he even put on an accent???? the chcik from X-Files is better than him


i rate guys like Bruce Willis above him

[Nobleart]

Connery is the same character in every movie though..even when he's playing a russian or spaniard..cant he even put on an accent???? the chcik from X-Files is better than him


i rate guys like Bruce Willis above him


When has Willis ever sported an accent? Never heard Clooney try one either. Some actors just know better. It would sound ridiculous coming from them.

Once again, screen presence and charisma, sometimes trumps "acting".

[ArturoGatti]

It's Funny How this has Degenerated Into a Nicholson vs. Connery Debate, when BOTH of them R SUPERIOR to Eastwood, in Terms of Acting...As LIMITED as Nicholson & Connery R (in Terms of RANGE), they Blow Eastwood OUT of the Fucking Water...




REED:Pointlaugh:
Eastwood shits on Connery.

[REEDsART]

I never hear anyone say Cage is a bad actor, actually. What people say is that he's annoying. And that he is.

Really bad actor is Ice T. I always felt Sidney Poitier was a bad actor too...definitely the most overrated actor in history. He's very "wooden". I can't stand to watch him on screen.Sidney Poitier was the "Jackie Robinson" of his Era Or the "Joe Louis", so to Speak...REED Likens Poitier to an Old School Emcee in Hip Hop...

If You CRITIQUE Run DMC's Lyrics by TODAY'S Standards, they'll Suffer...Hip Hop has EVOLVED Lyrically, Since Run DMC's Days, but they've EARNED their Place in History & Certain fREEDoms, as a Result...Same Goes for Sidney Poitier...Mekhi Phifer & Omar Epps are 2 SUPERIOR Black Actors who will Never EVER Be Held in the Same Regard as Poitier, but REED Doesn't have a Problem w/it...Phifer & Epps Probably DON'T Either....

Poitier was All WE Had @ 1 Point, Brother Sly...



REED:Lok:

[REEDsART]

Eastwood shits on Connery.
James Bond > Dirty Harry




REED:cheer:

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Sidney Poitier was the "Jackie Robinson" of his Era Or the "Joe Louis", so to Speak...REED Likens Poitier to an Old School Emcee in Hip Hop...

If You CRITIQUE Run DMC's Lyrics by TODAY'S Standards, they'll Suffer...Hip Hop has EVOLVED Lyrically, Since Run DMC's Days, but they've EARNED their Place in History & Certain fREEDoms, as a Result...Same Goes for Sidney Poitier...Mekhi Phifer & Omar Epps are 2 SUPERIOR Black Actors who will Never EVER Be Held in the Same Regard as Poitier, but REED Doesn't have a Problem w/it...Phifer & Epps Probably DON'T Either....

Poitier was All WE Had @ 1 Point, Brother Sly...



REED:Lok:

I hear you.

Agree. If we are calling him a great person for opening the door to blacks in Hollywood etc...this I agree with. He should be held in high regard for this. But let's not call him a great actor, that's all.

Your jackie Robinson and Joe Louis analogies are spot on in the "opening the door" regard.

[REEDsART]

I hear you.

Agree. If we are calling him a great person for opening the door to blacks in Hollywood etc...this I agree with. He should be held in high regard for this. But let's not call him a great actor, that's all.

Your jackie Robinson and Joe Louis analogies are spot on in the "opening the door" regard.
Given his Jamaican/West Indian UPBRINGING, REED Figured U'd Treat Sidney Poitier like ROYALTY...



REED:hammert:

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Given his Jamaican/West Indian UPBRINGING, REED Figured U'd Treat Sidney Poitier like ROYALTY...



REED:hammert:

I'm trinidadian...but yes...bigups to my jamaican brethren also. I didn't know SP was of Jamaican heritage actually...i thought it was one of the "small" islands.

[Nobleart]

Poitier was very similar to Paul Robeson in terms of his acting style. More of a throwback, built for the theatre, more then for films.

Canada Lee was probably the very best of the early black actors. He didn't appear in many films but stood out when he did. He stole the show in the boxing movie "Body & Soul". More naturalistic then most performances of that time period.

[loadedgloves]

I'd take Eastwood over Connery 7 days out of the week and twice on Sunday! Neither one was a bad actor. Eastwood was a considerably better one though.


I agree with this but I reverse Eastwood and Connery in your statement. Connery was a badass.

[Roll With The Punches]

When has Willis ever sported an accent? Never heard Clooney try one either. Some actors just know better. It would sound ridiculous coming from them.

Once again, screen presence and charisma, sometimes trumps "acting".



i mentioned Willis because he's played different characters....about 3 different characters if i count properly

that shits all over connery

[REEDsART]

I'm trinidadian...but yes...bigups to my jamaican brethren also. I didn't know SP was of Jamaican heritage actually...i thought it was one of the "small" islands.
REED Lumps ALL of you "Island" Motherfuckers TOGETHER...Just like Ya'll Probably Lump All AMERICAN Brothers Together, Even Though there's DIFFERENCES btwn East Coast, West Coast & Southern Brothers...

REED Knows that Poitier ISN'T "African-American", Per Se...He's from 1 of the BORDERING Islands...





REED:cheer:

[Nobleart]

i mentioned Willis because he's played different characters....about 3 different characters if i count properly

that shits all over connery

There's "funny" Bruce, "glum" Bruce, and "action" Bruce.


are those the three characters you're referring to? :lol:

[Destruction and Mayhem]

REED Lumps ALL of you "Island" Motherfuckers TOGETHER...Just like Ya'll Probably Lump All AMERICAN Brothers Together, Even Though there's DIFFERENCES btwn East Coast, West Coast & Southern Brothers...

REED Knows that Poitier ISN'T "African-American", Per Se...He's from 1 of the BORDERING Islands...





REED:cheer:

East Coast West Coast mean nothing...y'all are from the same country. The Islands are different countries with differing cultures.

Poitier is from Bahamas originally. BAHAMAS!!!!! Not jamaica, not Trinidad, Bahamas.

Ya can't lump every caribbean island together in one soup..that's just "ignant".

[REEDsART]

East Coast West Coast mean nothing...y'all are from the same country. The Islands are different countries with differing cultures.

Poitier is from Bahamas originally. BAHAMAS!!!!! Not jamaica, not Trinidad, Bahamas.

Ya can't lump every caribbean island together in one soup..that's just "ignant".
The United States is SPACIOUS, Dog...Hell, the STATE of Texas is Probably as BIG as Any of the Islands...REED ISN'T Looking @ a Map or Anything, just GUESSING...

WITHIN African American Culture, East/West/Southern Brothers R VERY Different...SIMILAR, yet DIFFERENT...



REED:cheer:

[Roll With The Punches]

There's "funny" Bruce, "glum" Bruce, and "action" Bruce.


are those the three characters you're referring to? :lol:


:lol:

which is funny Bruce?
i was thinking of the nerdy funny guy in Death Becomes Her

[ArturoGatti]

The United States is SPACIOUS, Dog...Hell, the STATE of Texas is Probably as BIG as Any of the Islands...REED ISN'T Looking @ a Map or Anything, just GUESSING...

WITHIN African American Culture, East/West/Southern Brothers R VERY Different...SIMILAR, yet DIFFERENT...



REED:cheer:texas is bigger than all the islands combined...

[Xplosive]

Sidney Poitier still doesnt get a pass for being an ass actor, with a face that could boost Chris Eubank's self-esteem.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

texas is bigger than all the islands combined...

word

[Hut*Hut]

It's Funny How this has Degenerated Into a Nicholson vs. Connery Debate, when BOTH of them R SUPERIOR to Eastwood, in Terms of Acting...As LIMITED as Nicholson & Connery R (in Terms of RANGE), they Blow Eastwood OUT of the Fucking Water...




REED:Pointlaugh:

I love Eastwood.