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barneyboy2001
11-28-2011, 01:17 PM
David Haye has confirmed his team are in talks about a fight with Vitali Klitschko in March IN GERMANY

Destruction and Mayhem
11-28-2011, 01:30 PM
Pointless.

Barristan
11-28-2011, 02:16 PM
Pointless.

Pointless for us but not pointless for Haye who will make a bucket of money again. Vitaly will stop him he's too small obviously.

Irish 2002/2003
11-28-2011, 02:28 PM
Disgusting. He doesn't deserve to fight at that level so soon after his last outing which was, quite frankly, disappointing. He's a loudmouthed cunt and I don't fancy listening to another 3 months of his shite. I'm not sure Vitali should be at all bothered with him. It won't add anything to his legacy, at least not as much as will take away from same should he lose, which is unlikely.

Hut*Hut
11-28-2011, 02:28 PM
Probably still a little more interesting than Klit vs anyone else

meetthefeebles
11-28-2011, 02:30 PM
At least Vitali will give Haye the beating he deserves. Looking forward to it.

MTF

Ugotabe Kidding
11-28-2011, 02:34 PM
Hopefully Vitali stomps on his toe in every possible situation

Irish 2002/2003
11-28-2011, 02:35 PM
What does Vitali get out of it? Fuck all really, personal satisfaction if he improves on Wladimirs performance is about it. Not sure he makes any more money. Pugilistically, Haye is damaged goods in that the lustre is more than gone. If Vitali loses, instant derision awaits, as does more shite about Haye is the man and Wlad needs Haye etc :shit:

I always preferred that Vitali retired, Wlad picked up the WBC belt by beating on Povetkin, and then retired himself, with Haye coming out of "retirement" 3 years or so from now when his pecker has wandered up the wrong girl or boy and he has a costly divorce looking him in the face.

Irish 2002/2003
11-28-2011, 02:36 PM
Hopefully Vitali stomps on his toe in every possible situation

David Haye:"I couldn't do anything in there. He was stomping on my toes. You saw it, you all saw it, they made me walk to the ring through the rain and mud, I couldn't get off, I broke wind three weeks ago and it hasn't healed, I'll definitely knock him out if I fight him again, I......" :shit:

Yeah, OK, please fuck off.

**JIMMY**
11-28-2011, 06:05 PM
I hope this fight comes through. I'd love to see Haye splattered all over the canvas. No doubt we'll be hearing from his on the tv, radio, internet, EVERYWHERE. Dear God, help us all.

cdogg187
11-28-2011, 06:44 PM
unlike his chickenshit brother, Vitali will give this loudmouth a proper BATTERING

Irish 2002/2003
11-28-2011, 07:01 PM
unlike his chickenshit brother, Vitali will give this loudmouth a proper BATTERING

Vitali is pushing 41 years of age by the time this fight happens. I just hope he still "feels me 20" by the time the fight comes around. If he starts to "feel me 40" then Haye might make this interesting.

I really wanted to see Haye fade away and lose all his money through a nasty divorce or gay lawsuit, then comeback and get beaten up.

cdogg187
11-28-2011, 07:04 PM
If Vitali is 75% he hammers this knucklehead

**JIMMY**
11-28-2011, 08:48 PM
I will aim to NOT listen to Haye at all before this fight, then watch the fight, watch Haye get dominated then knocked out cold, then i'll hear what he's gotta say.

Ramonza Soliloquies
11-28-2011, 11:02 PM
What a joke. And its STILL probably close to the best rival Vitali's ever faced.

At best, Haye wins four rounds. I'll be happy to see either man lose, frankly.

loadedgloves
11-29-2011, 01:58 AM
unlike his chickenshit brother, Vitali will give this loudmouth a proper BATTERING

Vitali won't be able to land on Haye enough to batter him. Haye will stink out the joint and lose a wide UD.

mexican wedding shirt
11-29-2011, 02:16 AM
Vitali lands on everyone, his punches are surprisingly accurate.

It's possible for Haye to stink out a decision loss but I would actually expect Vitali to stop him.

Ramonza Soliloquies
11-29-2011, 02:21 AM
Amazing how accurate you can be against morbidly obese opposition --- let alone ones on this combined level of talent and skill.

Most of these guys would be mediocre even in Haye's shape.

mexican wedding shirt
11-29-2011, 02:24 AM
Looked pretty accurate against Lewis too. Hit him a lot, and Lewis was a fairly negative, defensive fighter, not the easiest guy to hit.

He's also considered an ATG heavyweight.

Ramonza Soliloquies
11-29-2011, 02:36 AM
Speaking of accurate, its interesting the one quality opponent Klitschko's ever met could not miss him all night.

Never seen a fighter --- EVER --- get as much mileage out of winning three or four rounds against a great (though fat) rival, prior to getting stopped after six stanzas, before in my life.

barneyboy2001
11-29-2011, 03:20 AM
i cant wait for this fight, it be fight of the year, best two heavy weights in the world going at each other, you know haye will come in great shape from head to toe! lol

Pascals Wager
11-29-2011, 03:25 AM
Looked pretty accurate against Lewis too. Hit him a lot, and Lewis was a fairly negative, defensive fighter, not the easiest guy to hit.

He's also considered an ATG heavyweight.

There was nothing negative & defensive about the way LL fought Vitali.

mexican wedding shirt
11-29-2011, 03:42 AM
i cant wait for this fight, it be fight of the year, best two heavy weights in the world going at each other, you know haye will come in great shape from head to toe! lol

Best 2 heavyweights?

Has Haye since beaten Wlad then?

mexican wedding shirt
11-29-2011, 03:43 AM
There was nothing negative & defensive about the way LL fought Vitali.

Less negative than most of his performances, I'll give you that.

He was forced to fight somewhat, and not do his usual cowering-behind-pawing-jab-against-cruiserweight bullshit.

Pascals Wager
11-29-2011, 04:28 AM
Less negative than most of his performances, I'll give you that.

He was forced to fight somewhat, and not do his usual cowering-behind-pawing-jab-against-cruiserweight bullshit.

He went at Vitali right from the start

barneyboy2001
11-29-2011, 05:27 AM
Best 2 heavyweights?

Has Haye since beaten Wlad then?

haye beat wlad in kick ups, thats how haye damaged his toe lol

**JIMMY**
11-29-2011, 07:05 AM
Haye will probably do his silly dancing moves in the ring again and avoid a beating and lose by wide UD.

barneyboy2001
11-29-2011, 07:24 AM
Haye will probably do his silly dancing moves in the ring again and avoid a beating and lose by wide UD.

i think he will do better in this one cause he has nothing to lose

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 10:44 AM
The fight might not even happen. Vitali will probably take 70% of the money and Haye won't fancy some low-key shite in Doosel-Dorf in an indoor arena for a fight he most likely can't win.

As for the fight itself, Haye fancies that Vitali's low-left is tailor made for his "big right hand". Haye thinks he can step in and land a few and get back out.

I'm not so sure. Solis thought that too and he ended up on his ass. His two or three chopping right hands had no demonstrable effect.

Barristan
11-29-2011, 11:02 AM
Like i said before..Iwas speaking with with Sam peter and I made a comment about Vitali's quick little hook he throws and Peter got really offended..."Little hook?...The guy punches harder than anyone I've ever been in the ring with." Vitaly is a monster and will spear Haye to permanent retirement. Haye has no chance period.

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 02:27 PM
Like i said before..Iwas speaking with with Sam peter and I made a comment about Vitali's quick little hook he throws and Peter got really offended..."Little hook?...The guy punches harder than anyone I've ever been in the ring with." Vitaly is a monster and will spear Haye to permanent retirement. Haye has no chance period.

Sounds like a Tahitian fisherman. Ending fish careers left and right.

Ramonza Soliloquies
11-29-2011, 03:09 PM
"Vitali is a monster," only in this most putrid of eras could a guy who couldnt stop a mummified Shannon Briggs (despite being incapable of missing all night), be considered a monster :lol:

Unless of course youre of the opinion Briggs, "was tougher than in his prime." :lol:

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 03:13 PM
"Vitali is a monster," only in this most putrid of eras could a guy who couldnt stop a mummified Shannon Briggs (despite being incapable of missing all night), be considered a monster :lol:

Unless of course youre of the opinion Briggs, "was tougher than in his prime." :lol:

Agreed. Castillo beats them both. With skills on the inside.

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 03:31 PM
"Hi, my names Gene Tunney, I have mad skillz, even if I can't put a fucking vest on properly"

http://cyberboxingzone.com/images/GT2.jpg

Ugotabe Kidding
11-29-2011, 03:32 PM
"Vitali is a monster," only in this most putrid of eras could a guy who couldnt stop a mummified Shannon Briggs (despite being incapable of missing all night), be considered a monster :lol:

Unless of course youre of the opinion Briggs, "was tougher than in his prime." :lol:


It reminded me of that monster Sonny Liston hitting 190 lbs string bean Eddie Machen with everything for 12 rounds :lol::lol: Some monster there :lol::lol: during the putrid 60s :lol::lol:

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 03:34 PM
It reminded me of that monster Sonny Liston hitting 190 lbs string bean Eddie Machen with everything for 12 rounds :lol::lol: Some monster there :lol::lol: during the putrid 60s :lol::lol:

:lol:

Or Lewis pounding on that Sequoia that was Mavrovic.

steve_dave
11-29-2011, 04:21 PM
Leave Lewis out of this. He had to no problem stopping Briggs early. :nono:

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 04:23 PM
Leave Lewis out of this. He had to no problem stopping Briggs early. :nono:

Nor Quarry Shavers. Nor Foreman Norton. Nor Nunn Kalambay. Nor Johannson Machen. Nor Cooney Norton. Nor Coetzee Spinks.


You can come up with a million examples of "lesser" punchers doing a better job on a guy. Lewis was a better puncher than Vitali, but he gassed in that fight and was also sent sprawling by Briggs. I think its a fair point to say that the older Briggs took a better punch. Its not a wild extension of logic to say that. He had no chance of winning, but was adequately disposed for Vitali's high-activity, lower-power output.

Norris blew Taylor out, but Chavez fucked Taylor up.

Please don't get me wrong, I accept the general point, but its folly to bend the general point to an extreme.

Ramonza Soliloquies
11-29-2011, 04:39 PM
It reminded me of that monster Sonny Liston hitting 190 lbs string bean Eddie Machen with everything for 12 rounds :lol::lol: Some monster there :lol::lol: during the putrid 60s :lol::lol:

Did I just read the 60's was a putrid era? Of course I did --- from a guy who just used an exception in Liston's career (against a WAYYYY better foe than ANY Briggs) to prove a point...in a bout Im quite confidemt youve never seen anyway.

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 04:42 PM
Did I just read the 60's was a putrid era? Of course I did --- from a guy who just used an exception in Liston's career (against a WAYYYY better foe than ANY Briggs) to prove a point...in a bout Im quite confidemt youve never seen anyway.

Liston was good fighter but there were some shit fighters out there. I don't think Mac Foster, Zora Folley, Eddie Machen, Johannsson or that lower-tier of fighters from that era would have beaten Vitali. I don't think Henry Cooper would have gone 8 rounds with him and I don't think Bugner would have beaten him either. Like it or not, Vitali is one of these lowly-regarded guys that requires a very very good fighter to beat him.

Part of the reason I don't want him to fight Haye {just part of it, mind} is that if he were to look bad, or even lose, it would be used as a stick to beat him with, despite the fact that the guy is 40 years of age and has 3 major injuries under his belt. Most folk are just out there loitering with the intent to downrate the guy like he was the Portuguese debt or something {:crafty:} They know that every win he racks up inches him towards respectability, but like any disliked fighter, a half-bad showing is a reason to take him down a few pegs.

Ramonza Soliloquies
11-29-2011, 04:49 PM
I dont see you having anything to worry about. Klitschko will win handsomely.

Ugotabe Kidding
11-29-2011, 05:01 PM
Did I just read the 60's was a putrid era? Of course I did --- from a guy who just used an exception in Liston's career (against a WAYYYY better foe than ANY Briggs) to prove a point...in a bout Im quite confidemt youve never seen anyway.

I have seen the fight. And if we talk about exceptions, isn't Vitali's KO % rather high one, so couldn't we sort of say that the Briggs fight was an exception? And I have WAYYYYY trouble to see a 190 lbs contender lasting the distance with Vitali, in fact I have trouble to see such fight getting even licensed.

Hate is a beautiful thing though:cheer:

Ramonza Soliloquies
11-29-2011, 05:07 PM
Of course. Anytime someone isnt impressed with a fighter, it's hate.

We learned that one back in the day from the Titosites.

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 05:14 PM
Of course. Anytime someone isnt impressed with a fighter, it's hate.

We learned that one back in the day from the Titosites.

Josip Broz or that fraud from Puerto Rico?? :lol:

steve_dave
11-29-2011, 06:12 PM
I hate the Klitschko's.

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 06:23 PM
I hate the Klitschko's.

You live in North America. That sort of think is OK. No need to panic.

steve_dave
11-29-2011, 06:43 PM
You live in North America. That sort of think is OK. No need to panic.

I'm comfortable in my skin.

Irish 2002/2003
11-29-2011, 06:50 PM
I'm comfortable in my skin.

You need all the skin you can get in that icebox :nono:

Jesus of montreal
11-29-2011, 06:57 PM
What a waste of time.

The klitchko are getting more and more pathetic

**JIMMY**
11-29-2011, 06:57 PM
I want to see Haye knocked out cold, so i'm looking forward to this fight (if it happens)

cdogg187
11-29-2011, 07:36 PM
What a waste of time.

The klitchko are getting more and more pathetic
How so?

who should they fight?

Jesus of montreal
11-29-2011, 07:48 PM
How so?

who should they fight?



Anybody but the guy who was ready to retire a couple of weeks ago (after a completely pathetic performance), but was dragged back in by the odor of a big pile of cash.

I'd rather see him fight Valuev

cdogg187
11-29-2011, 07:52 PM
Anybody but the guy who was ready to retire a couple of weeks ago (after a completely pathetic performance), but was dragged back in by the odor of a big pile of cash.

I'd rather see him fight Valuev
The guy who lost to the guy who was ready to retire?

Jesus of montreal
11-29-2011, 08:10 PM
The guy who lost to the guy who was ready to retire?

more like fought evenly with the guy that was ready to retire

cdogg187
11-29-2011, 08:12 PM
more like fought evenly with the guy that was ready to retire
more than two years ago and who hasn't fought since

do you follow the sport?

Jesus of montreal
11-29-2011, 08:20 PM
more than two years ago and who hasn't fought since

do you follow the sport?


never said it was a dream fight, only that it would be better than the travesty that the Haye fight is. At least I think he'll give it a try.

But I forgot, there's hype around this fight. Haye will talk with false bravado ( and will once again fight timidly), Vitaly will respond with threats of how he's going to destroy him cause he insulted his little brothers (and he'll do his usual routine of arm punching his opponent for 10 rounds, after wich Haye will quit claiming a toe injury).

But I forgot, there's hype around this fight, no wonder a clown like you support it

cdogg187
11-29-2011, 08:57 PM
never said it was a dream fight, only that it would be better than the travesty that the Haye fight is. At least I think he'll give it a try.

But I forgot, there's hype around this fight. Haye will talk with false bravado ( and will once again fight timidly), Vitaly will respond with threats of how he's going to destroy him cause he insulted his little brothers (and he'll do his usual routine of arm punching his opponent for 10 rounds, after wich Haye will quit claiming a toe injury).

But I forgot, there's hype around this fight, no wonder a clown like you support it
yeah, I'm "supporting" it :laughing:

I could not give a fuck about this fight, but you are a jackass for suggesting that somehow fighting the guy Haye already beat who has been retired for TWO YEARS is a more legitimate fight... that makes NO sense at all

barneyboy2001
11-30-2011, 04:43 AM
They might as well fight, its not like anything else is interesting at this weight, oh wait a minute i forgot Tyson Fury lol

meetthefeebles
11-30-2011, 07:25 AM
You need all the skin you can get in that icebox :nono:

I actually :lol:ed

MTF

Irish 2002/2003
11-30-2011, 09:35 AM
I actually :lol:ed

MTF

:lol:

I'm just fucking with him, I hope nobody was offended, its not like Ireland, or Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, are palm-tree heaven either :lol:

In fact, I saw a dead Pine Marten on the road the other day. Ireland and Canada are pretty much alike. I might order a few furs and then tramp around the country roads in them, with a big walking stick, Hallam Foe-Style, that'll put he wind right up the local aristocracy, private land-owners....Orange left-overs, the lot of them.

http://tickateeboo.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/hallam-foe-6.jpg

Irish 2002/2003
11-30-2011, 05:09 PM
Pretty bland interview, featuring the bland Gareth A Davies and his horseshit...............more or less summarizes the general state of things at the moment, no new information as such, a lot of talk about how Haye is a great fighter inside.

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I'm not sure that Haye should get what he "wants". I still say he needs to fight 3 big fights....Povetkin, Arreola, Helenius, something like that.